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I have no way of verifying the truth of this report. ] ] 19:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:I'm hearing the same. :-( Working on a confirmation. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 20:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::I've forwarded this to ], not because I want a wider audience but because somebody there will be able to take the appropriate action. I cannot see any reason to believe what I read on the Facebook page is not true. :-( ] ] ] 20:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::Nothing on Google I can see, beyond the Facebook that Eric linked.] (], ]) 20:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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I regret to say that . Rest well, buddy, and my best wishes go out to your family and everyone close to you. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 20:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:I think maybe we crossed paths a few times, however the loss of a fellow contributor, especially one so young is sad. May you rest in peace. ] (]) 20:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::::I last saw him at the wikiconference in October, and I'm so sad to hear of this. All the best to his family. ] (]) 21:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::::::My sincerest condolences to his family. Never got to work with him, though I did respect him as an Admin and editor. --] (]) 21:38, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Always sad news, and very little to be said. Very sorry to hear about this, my condolences to his friends on and off wiki and his family. ] (]) 21:39, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== A barnstar for you! == | |||
: No words feel good enough to express my feeling well. I'm heartened that you were able to help three folks live with generous donations and that you continue to help people. You will indeed be missed and it was a pleasure to have met you and work with you. I hope your family and loved ones are well and make it through this undoubtedly difficult time. Much love, ] ] 21:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Incredibly sad news. Condolences to his family and those who knew him. ] (]) 21:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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: So sad, my heart aches. RIP, my friend; you are missed beyond words. Condolences to family and friends, on and off wiki. --] (]) 21:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*Thank you... I hoped that resurrecting a few pieces of their past work would help counter some of Wiki-PR's recent public rhetoric. It's worth noting that I didn't pick out the ''worst'' seven pieces I could find, and also only resurrected pieces that could 100% be linked to them. I did offered to French via email that I would be happy to add any pieces of work they had done that were of substantially higher quality than the ones I had already resurrrected; he didn't reply. ] (]) 21:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
* Shocking news. My condolences to Kevin's friends and family. ] (]) 21:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*Not the sort of thing I expected to see. I'm sorry about what's happened and I hope your family will be okay. Best wishes. ] 21:53, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Rest in peace Kevin. You will be missed greatly. -- ] (]) 22:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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* Hi ] - thanks to you for starting to edit Misplaced Pages :) please feel free to stop by my talk page if you have any followup questions about anything or need any help with anything. ] (]) 21:43, 2 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*Sorry to see this. I was hoping Kevin could get past his difficulties and move on. ] (]) 22:18, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Recent Edits == | |||
* Thanks Kevin for all you have done over the years. Will miss your wise and thoughtful input. ] (] · ] · ]) 23:35, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Hi! You recently helped edit ], an article I wrote, and I would appreciate if you would please consider contributing to the ]. Thank you. --] (]) 21:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*Fare thee well--] (]) 23:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*I wish you peace, Kevin. Sadness for your family. Silence just because... ] ] 00:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*We all have to go, but you went too soon, mate. Missed. --] <small>]]</small> 00:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Thanks for the invitation Smallbones, but I'm going to hold off signing for now due to an interesting series of in-progress events. Best, ] (]) 17:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
* It happens too soon. I am grateful for every conversation we had. Thanks for your early support of my Misplaced Pages projects. I am sorry for the loss. ]] 00:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Really sorry to hear. ] (]) 00:50, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*RIP Kevin, Unfortunately we've never edited any articles together however I've seen you around and you'll be missed alot, Thanks for everything you've done, My sincerest condolences to friends & family x –]<sup>]</sup> 01:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Aww, damn it. Kevin, you are missed. You did a lot of good here. ] (]) 03:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* .] ] (]) 04:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* You will be missed, Kevin. My deepest condolences to your loved ones. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I am heartbroken to hear this news. I've always enjoyed Kevin's insights, and Misplaced Pages will be a little less bright without him. You will be sorely missed, and I hope that wherever you are, you will look down upon us and see pride in the work we hope to continue for you. --] <sup>(])</sup> 06:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Thanks for all your great work over the years. You will be missed. My condolences to your friends and family. '''~'']'']''' <small>] ]</small> 06:33, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I couldn't believe it initially, I often recall your grants retrospective. ] 06:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*This is beyond sad. I'm at a loss for words as I type this. Although I didn't personally know you, you seemed like a wonderful person, and our interactions were always great. Thank you for helping to build Misplaced Pages and for staunchly defending it from detrimental edits. Thank you for believing in me as much as I believed in you. ] (]) 07:03, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Rest in peace, Kevin -- you left us too soon! Thank you for all your hard work on behalf of Misplaced Pages and the Wikimedia movement. Your passion came through very clearly in the few interactions we had. My heartfelt condolences to friends, family and loved ones. ]] 07:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences to your family and loved ones. So early :( ] (]) | |||
* Sorry to hear about Kevin's death. RIP. My heart extends to his family and loved ones. ] (]) 09:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* What tragic news. Kevin was my deskmate during his internship at the Wikimedia Foundation, and later interviewed me at length for the Grants retrospective. He was passionate and informed in all he did, and he cared about getting it right, on- and off-wiki. We are the poorer now. ] (]) 09:43, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences. --] (]) 11:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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* In 2014, I ] to you, Kevin. Sad that it's now for you. --] (]) 13:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
: ... and '']'' --] (]) 06:24, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Rest in peace Gorman —] »» (]) 14:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I am deeply saddened by the passing of Kevin. Once we began corresponding over a year ago, he treated me with respect, kindness, tact, sensitivity and with the highest example of good faith. I have found him to be a staunch ally and supporter for building the encyclopedia. I especially enjoy his essays. If any of his family is reading this, please know that I am grieving with you and for you and can't even imagine what you must be going through. If there is any question at all about the amazing contributions that Kevin has made to Misplaced Pages, just know that it will never be the same without him. Kevin, I miss you already! The Very Best of Regards, | |||
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::my real name is Barbara Page and I am from Pittsburgh. I didn't think an anonymous note would do him justice. | |||
* There are far too few who cared so much about this place. A loss for this project and for us all. ] <small>(])</small> 14:34, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* ] Stan <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 14:36, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Deeply sorry to hear this. Regrettably, I never worked much with him, but always respected and esteemed him as a Wikipedian. RIP.--] (]) 14:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Very sorry to see this. --''']]]''' 16:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Very sad news. Prayers and condolences to his family friends and loved ones. ]! -] (]) 16:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Kevin, you were one of the first Wikipedians I was introduced to in depth, and I was so struck by your deep sense of dedication to do good and to do right for Misplaced Pages, for Wikimedia, for systemic bias in free knowledge... Your energy and enthusiasm will be sorely missed. Rest in power. ] (]) 17:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* It's incredibly sad when someone so young passes away, but at least Kevin will be remembered for his contributions here. Sincerest condolences to his family and friends.- ]] 21:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I did not interact with Kevin much, either on- or off-wiki, but there was no missing the way he stood up for principles in discussions of policy. He will be missed. ] (]) 00:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Rest in peace, Kevin. You did a lot of good in this world, and it will be a worse place without you. ] <small>]</small> 03:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Just woke up to this shocking news. Very sorry to hear this. Kevin was far too young to die. My condolences to his friends and family. I have an idea for a possible way to pay tribute if it would be appropriate and not too soon to talk about this (see below). ] (]) 06:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Misplaced Pages is now poorer. ] (]) 13:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Goodbye. :( ] | (] – ]) 19:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Very sad news indeed, my condolences go to those who worked with him here, and knew him personally. Rest in peace. ]] 13:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I first met Kevin in spring 2011. I was doing communications for the Wikimedia Foundation’s Public Policy Initiative (the pilot of the program now run by the Wiki Education Foundation, where I now work), and we’d created a tool that showed how many edits and how much content each student had added to Misplaced Pages. One username stood out from a class UC Berkeley, and after looking at this new user’s contribs, I realized he’d started editing far beyond his coursework; Kevin had gotten the Misplaced Pages bug and was busy improving articles on mushrooms (a hobby of his) and reverting vandalism. Kevin’s devotion to Misplaced Pages was apparent, even in the early days of his editing career (I think he never actually finished the article he was supposed to work on for class, he’d gotten so excited about improving other Misplaced Pages articles). Kevin continued on in the education program as a volunteer, and I was pleased to see him become more involved in different aspects of Misplaced Pages. He recruited several classes as the first Wikipedian in Residence at UC Berkeley after he graduated, with his own unique Kevin way of approaching courses: always with an interest to countering systemic bias and always making sure he was doing the right thing ethically for both the student editors and Misplaced Pages. His impact will continue to be felt for years to come within the education program in the United States. Thanks for all your hard work, Kevin. We miss you already. --] (]) 00:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Thanks for all your excellent and well-intentioned contributions. You're missed already. --] (]) <small>Become ]</small> 11:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* RIP. You did not deserve so few years.--<span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">] ]</span> 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Rest in peace, Kevin. You are missed.--] ]/] 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Wow, very sorry to hear this. One of the "good guys". A name to conjure with. Rest in Peace, Kevin. ] (]) 23:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*I, too, was enormously shocked to hear about this. I find it deeply saddening that we often fail to fully appreciate someone's value until they are no longer around. Events like these should be a wake-up call—it is long past time to realize the pettiness and complete lack of meaningful consequence to all the ugly controversies and bickering. We must grasp the fact that ''real people'' with lives and feelings are behind those words and signatures. I offer my sincere condolences and well-wishes to Kevin's family, and I commend him for his selfless organ donations to those who were in desperate need of assistance. ] (]) <small>]</small> 23:12, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Rest easy, another warm soul gone too soon. I believe we crossed paths a few times, but all the kind words from fellow wikipedians allowed me the pleasure of learning more about you. I appreciate the time you have given to preserve knowledge for countless others, and, with equal importance, the positive impact you clearly left on editors.] (]) 01:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I am so shocked to hear of this. He was far too young. My condolences to his family and his friends and his many collaborators in free knowledge and justice. Kevin and I didn't have that many conversations but in every one I heard his deep passion for the work of improving our culture on all levels; he never ceased to be shocked at things that aren't right, and to channel that shock into activism and organizing. I will miss his dedication and I will remember his ideals. ] 16:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* I worked closely with Kevin when he volunteered in the education program, primarily at Berkeley. Since I was in San Francisco and working at WMF at the time, he used to come by for in-person meetings and lunches. I never could take notes quickly enough to capture his great ideas and enthusiasm for improving students' lives while they improved Misplaced Pages. Kevin also encouraged me to edit as a volunteer, which I continue to do today. He will live on in so many of our memories, but—perhaps most apropos—through Misplaced Pages, which is better because of him. ] (]) 19:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Very sad to hear this, my deepest condolences to his loved ones, ] (]) 21:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Kevin, I've always admired your character and dedication. Rest in peace. ]] 15:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Very saddened to hear this. Thank you endlessly for all of your contributions to this project. ] (]) 03:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Goodbye, thank you for your work, and bienvenue à dans étoiles. <span style="color:#35b794">]</span><span style="color:#3558b7;"><sup>]</sup>]</span> 03:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Too, too young. Condolences to Kevin's loved ones. Your great passion is what I remember and celebrate. RIP. ] (]) 20:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Sorry to hear this. Rest in peace, Kevin. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">]]</span> 03:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Never interacted with you but Rest in Piece and my condolences go to his friends and family. ] ] 17:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Always sad, to learn of a fellow Wikipedian's passing. My condolenses to the Gorman family :( ] (]) 14:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Whatever our differences, I am saddened by this news. Kevin was a great Wikipedian, I will not forget him. ]<sup>TT</sup>(]) 12:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Such a loss for the community. ]] 15:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Thank you for your generosity of spirit, time, intellect, and vital organs, Kevin. We will miss you. <span style="text-shadow: 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em #DDDDDD">] ]</span> 18:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*RIP, Kevin. ]] 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*RIP. ] (]) 22:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*My condolences to Kevin's family and friends. We were in touch briefly last fall with the aim of meeting up to talk about teaching with Misplaced Pages; even though he said he wasn't sure when his health would stabilize, he was full of ideas for the future. I'm sorry we never managed to get together and that the world has lost such a dynamo.] (]) 18:22, 16 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Kevin, you threw your heart and bones at the world, fighting for truth in your work. I don't know anyone else who thought so little of the burdens on themself while they advocated for the rights of others. Thank you for your crazy wild warrior spirit and dedication to human rights. No one will say you didn't give it your all. ]<sup> ]|]</sup> 20:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Kevin Gorman, gone far too soon. Rest in peace. ] (]) 03:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
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that our last conversations were so much unlike our first ones. You and I worked together on a case a long time ago which seemed unwinnable, and we prevailed, for the best of the project. I learned a lot from that, and felt like I knew you a bit. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't--we certainly drifted apart, one way or another, and in one or two fairly crucial cases we did not agree, and I always wished I could have seen eye to eye with you, physically, in the real world, and maybe that would have changed things. You always had a real dedication to this beautiful project of ours, more sincere than many of us, which is probably why you got in real trouble here because you were so dedicated, and sheesh you are too fucking young to be gone. They should take some of us old people, the ones who think they're always right and are sometimes too set in their ways. And who are old and expendable. There's a lot of folks who loved you, Kevin, and I'm , well, I'm sort of out of words. You are one of my oldest friends and colleagues on Misplaced Pages, I mean you were, and it won't be the same without you, tall skinny young person with your funky hairdo. Why do we say the things that matter only when it's too late? sorry yall--NOTSOZCIALNETWORK i know. ] (]) 00:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Hey, you protected this page as a result of IP disruption after ; one of the IPs went back to the page after the protection ended and continued their previous crusade, and the other notified me of it today. What do you suggest is the best course of action? Thanks, <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*I'll reprotect it if they return again, but the edit you reverted was ~10 days old and they haven't come back yet. ] (]) 20:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
**Sounds good. I haven't been watching the page, and the other IP just noticed it, so we'll see if the first IP comes back and does it again. I'll let you know. Thanks, <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
***The IP is back: see - I don't appreciate my good-faith edits being called "possible vandalism", but whatever. Do you think a formal RfC or something of the sort would help there? <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
***Both IPs are also back at it on ]... <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 20:33, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi ] - for now, I've thrown semiprotection on both pages because I agree that the IP edits are disruptive. I will review the length and other action necessary later tonight, as I'm in a bit of a rush atm. I'll try to provide advice about how to move forward as I can, but it is likely going to be faster if you ask another admin - unfortunately, I have a >60 hour week this week. Best, ] (]) 21:16, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Alright, no problem. Take it easy! Thanks, <sub>6</sub><big>]</big><sup>]</sup><big>]</big><sub>6</sub> 21:23, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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== Continuing Kevin's work == | ||
After hearing the awful news above, I was re-reading Kevin's user page, and I noticed his words on ]. Would in some way, when the time is right, continuing the work he started there be an appropriate way to pay tribute? There may be other ideas (the Facebook page mentioned donations to the ]), but I am throwing this idea out there. ] (]) 06:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
Hi, Kevin, I just unblocked KajMetz based on their unblock request. I normally don't unblock without first consulting with the blocking admin, but you said at AN3 that you were off to bed and gave permission to any admin to act as they wished. Hopefully, you had a good rest. Regards.--] (]) 21:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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*These are some wonderful ideas. Keep making the world a better place. Rest in peace, Kevin. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Thank you for pointing this out, and for the wonderful idea. I just started ] in tribute. ] (]) 05:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*Improving ] to GA in tribute to what will be eventually the first good article for a woman philosopher (it needs to be rewritten due to huge sections of unsourced content: draft is ]). <span class="nowrap" style="font-kerning:normal">— ] (])</span> 02:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Ping me if you end up planning an edit-a-thon for ] <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">]</span> 01:00, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
=== How about a barnstar? === | |||
Kevin cared very much about working with, and reaching out to, student editors. It occurs to me that the ] is intended for just that kind of activity, by campus and online ambassadors. I'd like to propose that we rename it the "Kevin Gorman Ambassador Barnstar". Is there support for doing this? --] (]) 20:07, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Tryptofish}} Seconded. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 20:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::third--] (]) 21:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::Fourthed ? .... Anyway +1 It sounds lovely! –]<sup>]</sup> 21:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::This is an excellent idea. Should it be raised somewhere else (e.g. on the talk page of the barnstar or at ]), or should it just be done ]ly after discussion here? Is anyone in contact with his family? ] (]) 10:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I believe '']ly after discussion here'' is more than enough to just do the barnstar]...IMO--] (]) 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I already left notes at the talkpage of the barnstar template, and at the talkpage of the WikiProject that deals with barnstars. An editor at the latter had a question, and I directed them to raise the question in the discussion here. I'll also add a note at the Education noticeboard now. I think it would be a good idea to let a few more days pass before making any bold edits. --] (]) 16:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::If there is consensus for this, there will need to be a link to some text explaining the rename and why it was done, so the reasoning is available in the future to those using this award. The closest things I've found to a permanent tribute to deceased Wikipedians (as opposed to user talk page condolence and tribute threads and an entry at ]) is ] and the 2014 ] award (though others may be able to think of other examples). ] (]) 05:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I agree. --] (]) 15:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*'''Support''' – But if renaming the existing barnstar, it might be worth considering changing the "ambassador" part as well. Ambassador is a ] in the context of Misplaced Pages, and one that isn't terribly active on enwiki (though there are ] about reviving it). Thus it seems likely that people would assume the barnstar is for (or for use by) ambassadors with that program, and thus wouldn't see much use (and would go unused altogether if that program were to be discontinued). Kevin was an ambassador, but was also involved at the intersection of Misplaced Pages and education in other ways, engaging with faculty, staff, students, Wikipedians, and the public. He also -- and I think this is very important -- came to Misplaced Pages ''through'' the education program (when it was the ]). Perhaps something like "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", or the "Misplaced Pages in Education Gormanstar" or somesuch? <small>FYI I work with the Wiki Education Foundation, but am commenting here solely in a volunteer capacity.</small> — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 23:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::Those are good points. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the existing barnstar unchanged, and instead create a new one. I would go with the "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", rather than the other name. --] (]) 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::{{ping|Tryptofish|The ed17|Ozzie10aaaa|Davey2010}} For the sake of taking the next step, I went ahead and created ] and uploaded a basic barnstar image. The template is basically the Original Barnstar, and the image is that barnstar with an education program logo. See three versions (current), , . I won't be offended if anyone wants to make/use a different image, use a different name, or go a different route altogether -- I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I also added some text to the "header" and "for" fields. — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 14:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::] thank you--] (]) 14:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes, I think this is the best way to go – thanks! I support the "current" version, aka #1, of the star, and I cannot think of any corrections to the template. --] (]) 17:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::Wow it looks perfect!, Thanks {{u|Rhododendrites}} for kindly doing this. –]<sup>]</sup> 18:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*I totally '''support''' this. ]] 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*I think that it has become very clear that editors commenting here support going ahead with this barnstar. The required procedure for doing so is to open a discussion at the WikiProject talkpage associated with such awards. I have just done so, at: | |||
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:It is important that editors here, who support the barnstar, '''also comment on your support for it there.''' Thanks. --] (]) 22:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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I'm nearly speechless having learned of your death today, Kevin. My impression of you through our public interactions here as well as through email showed me you were an honorable man who believed in doing right – in spite of it not always being popular – simply because it was the right thing to do. I will always remember you in the best of terms and those who treated you horribly or didn't step in to defend you (when you were no longer going to be an admin) in the lowest of terms. You deserved much better treatment and respect. To echo the sentiments of others already commenting here, you left us too soon my friend – way too soon. May the road rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back; may the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields; until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand. Rest in peace and with the angels, Kevin Gorman. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 22:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Yes, this is very much as I remember Kevin. ] (]) 22:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== Post about Kevin on Feminist Philosophers blog == | |||
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We posted something to honor Kevin on the Feminist Philosophers blog . If anyone would like to comment or add or even correct inaccuracies, please do. Also, if you know people who were close to Kevin, maybe they would like to know about the post? ] (]) 01:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks for this, ]. I've shared your post, and started an article on ] to honour Kevin. As I was looking at his list, I realised how few of these academics and thinkers had any substantial information on them (I started with Hide Ishiguro, as the only? person on the list not originally from Europe or North America, but there was almost silence on the internet). It is sadly never surprising to me, but always horrifying. Thank you for the inspiration you gave Kevin, and I'd be delighted if you or some of your students might find time to improve and expand the Avramides article. ] (]) 14:23, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::I first met Kevin in 2011 at a "Misplaced Pages in Higher Education" conference in Boston. He was then known for his work on mushroom articles. Over the years, I have participated in several edit-a-thons in San Francisco and Berkeley with him. He was committed to Misplaced Pages, free knowledge, gender equality, fairness in biographies of philosophers and positive values. He was open in discussing his health problems but I did not know that they were life threatening. His life was far too short, but a bit of him lives on in the living bodies of the recipients of his transplanted organs. I will donate blood next week in his memory and encourage others to do so as well. He will be missed. ] ] 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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== Kevin's heart still beats == | |||
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==Elisabeth Camp == | |||
Probably I'm missing something, but she seems to have significantly less of a publishing record than most academics who would pass WP:PROF. Based on AfDs, Associate Professors even at places like Berkeley are often not accepted here , & I usually avoid working on their articles unless there is something special.''']''' (]) 00:19, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*Hi DGG: it's one of my pieces that is still in progress; I have a good number of severely paywalled RS'es talking about her. Once some of the current situation calms down a little bit, I'll update the article and drop you a note to see what you think about it. Best, ] (]) 01:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:*Hi ]: just to ensure you I haven't forgotten, this is still on my radar. Unfortunately, some of the sources I need to write the article a bit more I'll only be able to access on Monday. To give you some idea of why I wrote an article about her on the first place: Quite a bit has been written about Camp's work, definitely more than enough to pass ]. ], who runs a very well respected philosophy blog (not dissimilar in stature to Groklaw or The Volokh Conspiracy,) singled out her move to Rutgers as solidifying Rutgers' standing as the #2 philosophy department in the US. Her organizational work has also been written about quite a bit. | |||
:'''"Kevin's heart still beats! His heart was successfully transplanted into another person last week, as was his liver and a kidney. Kevin saved three lives last week by sharing his organs. May his heart continue to beat for many years."''' | |||
::All in all, I wrote about her because I think she's an interesting person who definitely meets ], I would strongly argue meets ], and certainly meets the GNG - she certainly stands out over most academics. (It's also worth noting that Rutgers has a much stronger philosophy department than we do at Berkeley - Rutgers is typically ranked #2 in the US by the ], which is the most widely accepted ranking of philo departments in the English speaking world, whereas Berkeley is normally ranked around #17. That said, I'll add in more sources as I can (and once I've finished my first round of making bios that are close to being stubs, I intend to go over them again, and add significantly more information about their work.) I'm also hoping to get some USEP classes involved in the near future to help build out some of the conceptual articles that will allow for the bios I'm writing to more easily explain the work of the philosophers I'm writing about (right now, we're missing almost all conceptual articles in the fields a lot of the people I am writing about are active in.) Best, ] (]) | |||
*This is on my to-do list for this week. Since I initially posted the article, two RS'es dealing with her have popped up in the popular press, and there's 7-8 paywalled articles I'll be working off as well. ] (]) 23:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
I think a fitting tribute to Kevin would be to register as an organ donor. --] (]) 09:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Do something that you enjoy.... == | |||
:Why did someone decide to cut onions near my desk right now? Seriosuly, that is the the best gift one can give, life for others. Already an organ donor myself, and I recommend that if you can, please consider it. ] (]) 16:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
== With a heavy heart... == | |||
.... is great advice, given to me several years ago. Misplaced Pages is about contributing your own time, free of charge (for most of us), to better the collection of human knowledge that's freely available. Becoming an admin is a '''good''' thing mostly, it means once you've had enough experience, you can help reduce the ever-increasing tide of detritus (alternatively, it opens you up to a tirade of insults, false accusations etc). It also makes you feel that you are better enabled to wade into situations. Most often, that wading will end up with you up to (if not over) your neck. There's an inherent inertia (or forcefield, or something) in Misplaced Pages in certain corners, and there are dark and dusty and cobwebby cubbyholes where you are probably best advised to avoid, a bit like a "dark Misplaced Pages", where all the normal ] are ignored. | |||
One of the last things Kevin said to me in an email exchange, January 6, 2016...''"I think people often underestimate the amount of healing that family members and loved ones of those who undergo serious medical and other crises have to do even when their physical bodies were not the physical bodies directly affected."'' His words spoke volumes to me about his sensitivity toward others. He will be missed. <sup>]]]</sup> 06:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
I see you're through the maelstrom, and hopefully that means you can return to doing (a) what you found interesting and enjoyable about Misplaced Pages and (b) things to benefit the encyclopaedia. Getting involved in certain patches around here is inevitably going to end in disaster, and sadly you picked one of those. My advice is harmless, really, but I do get tired of some editors spewing bile, threatening retirement time after time after time after time after time......., ], while their defensive minions rush around screeching. To reiterate, do something you enjoy. Best wishes. <small>Feel free to delete, of course. Just some ramblings.</small> ] (]) 19:30, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for the note, TRM... one of the kind of funny things about this week has been that I've actually spent a huge portion of it doing fun, enjoyable work that is going to result in quite a bit of benefit to the encyclopedia. One of the reasons that many of my replies have been delayed on issues this week on-wiki is that I've been spending large chunks of time in meetings with GLAM's about content donations, as well as training upper division undergrads in preparation for having them write significant missing articles about environmental justice issues :) I find it a bit amazing that we don't even have an article about climate resilience, and soon we shall. Best wishes, ] (]) 20:43, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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== Wikiconference edit-a-thon? == | |||
I responded to your block notice in ; this is more an conflict dispute than vandalism. Cheers, ] (]) 01:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Responded to you there... but repeatedly blanking content that belongs there both according to literally every source you can find on the subject and common sense isn't a content dispute. It's ]. I can go make an ANEW report as necessary since it'll pull a block either place, but it seems a bit silly to send an obvious case that can fit in to two boards from one board to another. ] (]) 02:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::For future reference, there are discretionary sanctions on the Ayn Rand topic areas from ] that can be used. ] (]) 02:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::I went beyond the report at ] and did a preliminary look into the edit war. Admittedly, I have very little knowledge about the subject which may have serendipitously assisted in terms of uninvolved. What was clear to me was that there were seemingly legitimate grounds that this person should be included on that list as there was a reliable source, the article was a GA, and that there were plenty of supplementary articles like ] that supported the claim she was a female philosopher. My block was already in place when I saw ] link about the ArbCom case. As such I blocked under the grounds of disruptive editing. Blanking can be a grey area and I think at this point we should all move on give the net result was (hopefully) agreeable to all reviewing parties. ]] 07:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
A few people mentioned continuing Kevin's work on ]. It's too late to submit a session to the upcoming in San Diego, but for those involved/attending, would there be some time to set aside for a short edit-a-thon? Or perhaps it's something to bring up at the Unconference, or something that runs through the weekend? — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 22:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:FYI looks like this is happening on Saturday. See ]. — <tt>] <sup style="font-size:80%;">]</sup></tt> \\ 18:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
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It's probably unimportant, but the link to <nowiki>] should now show ] instead, or in addition to, the red link. ] (]) 00:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC) | ||
:{{tpw}}{{ping|Mathglot}} You've looked at the top of Kevin's user talk page, right? -- ] (]) 00:30, 22 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
::], Yes. I should have added, that this was addressed to anyone following up redlinks why there was ] to a page moved with no redirect whose links were (almost) all cleaned up, why this page wasn't also fixed. Answer: due to its protection level; but neither does it matter, and they can disregard it. ] (]) 01:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
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: David, this editor is deceased. Second, are do you have evidence of copying or is the content merely the same? A lot of pages copy stuff from Misplaced Pages. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
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::I just use twinkle, which cannot tell. I would rather post a few inappropriate notices than not notify someone who needs to be noticed. But one of the reasons a post here might not be entirely inappropriate is that it allows the many people who still l watchlist the page in his memory to correct errors., like my error here''']''' (]) 19:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::Thank you. You make several good points. ] <sup>]</sup> 15:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
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:: Did you know the admirable simplicity of Giano's user page: one castle and one category? --] (]) 08:23, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks ], but it's sometimes unimportant what people think - this is one such time. Kevin must find his amusement where he can. The important thing is achieve some rebalance to ] reputation. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 12:18, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::: Giano, I just noticed that Kevin made a mistake that I had made before (telling you that you misspelled a name), - we should keep learning, --] (]) 12:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::Don't worry Gerda; I can even spell my own name wrong - if it's not in spell checker it can come out in 50 different ways. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 15:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
Intended point taken Gerda, I hadn't noticed the cat before. I hadn't intended anything particularly malicious from commenting on his misspelling of his name, I just legitimately found it a bit amusing, especially given that I tend to refer to Eric by his former username out of completely innocuous reasons (mainly, if I refer to someone just as "Eric" in a conversation with people who are active on Wikimedia projects outside of ENWP, people tend to think of a number of people before they think of Eric Corbett. (AFAIK, Eric's never asked anyone not to refer to him as Malleus; I'd certainly avoid doing so if he'd asked me to do so, or if I had ever noticed him asking anyone else not to do so.) 22:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
: Thank you. I like simplicity, and I admire the castle, missing its builder. As far as I know, Eric talked to me first ], did you know? Quote: "I think a little more openness might go a long way." --] (]) 22:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
Why not just go and apologize to Eric/Malleus? That wouldn't hurt anyone.--] 20:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*That is the smartest thing I've heard all day. Sometimes, a simple apology is enough. If it isn't enough, it was still due. ] | ] | ] 16:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*@MONGO, Kevin already explained why not in detail here: ] (]) 01:18, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*As a bit of additional explanation: I don't believe that insincere apologies are respectful, and I think that even Eric would agree with me on that point. I certainly feel sorry about the situation as a whole, but I have a hard time feeling sincerely sorry for a comment I made based off of flawed information to someone whose first response asking him to lay off his participation in a thread was to undo my IAR hatting, whose second response was "What are you, an idiot? How can I be under a BLP sanction for commenting on someone who's dead?", and whose subsequent responses went down from there, culminating in him ragequitting. I'm sure it would satisfy some number of people if I went and posted a mea culpa on his talk page directed explicitly at him, but I don't think it would satisfy him, and I don't think it would be terribly respectful to do so. I made a general life rule some time ago to only apology in situations where I can do so sincerely. If his responses had gone down a different pathway, I'd likely have apologized to him directly some time ago. As it is: I don't feel sincerely sorry for offending Eric, and don't think an apology would carry meaning. ] (]) 01:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
**What kind of response do you think was likely after you dropped the largest and most pointy warning box possible (you <u>have</u> violated BLP ... enforced by <u>block</u> ... this is your <u>only warning</u> ... made pursuant to the requirements of this <u>Arbitration remedy</u>) ]? You failed to discuss anything without including threats of blocks (hint: that's not a discussion). No one cares if you offended Eric—it is the underlying issue that should be addressed, namely the correctness of your initial assessment (there ''was'' a BLP violation, and there ''was'' gravedancing, and Eric lacked common decency). I have said more in response to a suggestion at ]). ] (]) 02:39, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
**You are rationalizing. You made some significant errors in judgement here, and your mistakes are by far a larger problem than his. Eric's mistakes are moot when it comes to your own culpability, they don't justify your mistakes. If anything, you have shot yourself in the foot and guaranteed that no one can even approach him about his mistakes as you won't properly rectify the issue. As an admin, you are held to a higher standard, one you accepted when you got the bit. We all make mistakes, but we admin don't have the luxury of casually walking away from ours. You left the job half done at Arb, although I'm glad you at least started it. If you are not capable of rising above your personal opinions of an editor (Eric or anyone else), and accept responsibility for ''obvious'' mistakes without comparing to theirs, then you should do some soul searching as to whether or not adminship is right for you. As an aside, your actions make life more difficult for all admin, and reinforce all the negative stereotypes we endure. ] | ] | ] 02:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Ayup == | |||
I have been told by a little bird that <redacted for now> is a certain identifiable academic who has a RW dispute with <redacted for now>, and therefore should not be editing that article <redacted for now>. Do you know anything of this, please? You can ] if you prefer to keep real names off teh wikipediaz. Thanks, <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Hi ], I'll drop you an email when I can, I'm currently finishing up an email to all parties involved. I am aware of the situation, and think that it will be resolved amicably on both sides. I hope you don't mind, but I redacted the names of both parties as well as some information that would make them identifiable on this talk page for now in hopes that the issue can be resolved quickly. Once I've finished up the email to them, I'll drop you an email with more details. I'd discuss it directly on wiki, but believe that the best chance of not escalating the dispute is to handle it off-wiki. Best, ] (]) 22:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks for this. Best of luck dealing with prickly academic temperaments. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 00:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Notification of case being declined == | |||
Hello. An Arbitration Case Request that you were listed as being an involved party to titled Kevin Gorman—Eric Corbett has been declined and closed. If you would like to read the arbitrators' comments you can do so .--] (]) 05:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Response to your final RFAR post == | |||
Kevin, yes, you did say in future you'd take different action, i.e. sending Email to emergency@wikimedia.org or contacting two arbitrators. (Both suggestions from Giano so that you wouldn't act unilaterally; apparently you found them acceptable after receiving same suggestions off-wiki from other editors, including third alternative of protecting the Jimbo Talk page.) <p>When you wrote "flood of comments I've received, both on and offwiki, from people I respect pointing out a good number of the flaws in my actions" that seemed to imply numerous on-wiki comments, but in those editors you listed, 1) there are no conversations on the matter between you & admin Dennis Brown on your user Talk or his user Talk, 2) ditto re admin Floquenbeam, and 3) the only post by admin Drmies was the one on your user Talk Feb 12, where he basically discouraged you from carrying out your plan of producing "50 diffs" to "prove" that Eric Corbett is the most uncivil editor (so, that doesn't really qualify as "pointing out flaws in my actions" since it was not an action but an intimidation you created at the ANI thread Eric opened against you, and not related to the OP thread on Jimbo's Talk where you proceeded to take actions). So of the five admins you listed that leaves two who you say pointed out flaws in your actions that you took to heart. There are a total of five posts by admin Snowolf on your user Talk, over the days Feb 9 & 10 in which he emplores you to take a step back for reflection, because it was a non-issue, that you were making mistakes, and that you were wrong in your facts and on BLP policy. (Did you take his comments to heart? When? Because on Feb 11 you posted this : "Was the action utterly justifiable? Yes, and I stand by that more strongly than I did when I made it .") So that leaves comments by admin Writ Keeper, who on Feb 11 posted to your user Talk that there was no basis in BLP policy as you were asserting. You appear to have taken that to heart, by striking the text in your templated warning to Eric, but I've never seen you admit your policy interpretation was flawed. At any rate, that is ''one'' "person you respected" who have correcting advice on-wiki that you appear to have accepted. (One doesn't constitute "a flood", nor even "some".) ] (]) 05:46, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
*I didn't suggest I would send an email to emergency or contact two arbitrators. Given the general tenseness around, please make an active effort to not misrepresent what I've said. Frankly, contacting two arbitrators in a similar situation would be a bad idea. Arbs sleep, and relying on two arbs to be awake when a situation needed action wouldn't make much sense. I believe the last thing I pointed out (and these were not suggestions from Giano) were that I'd go ahead and email arbcom (as a whole,) email emergency, and call Philippe directly in a similar situation in the future, and would have done the same if I had known certain things ahead of time. | |||
:You may not like it, but a lot of communication takes place off-wiki, and a lot of the time communication taking place off-wiki is both necessary and desirable. Case in point: the section from Guy (an OTRS agent) several up from here where the most reasonable chance of success (and least likely to get us banned for ]) involved a discussion off-wiki (where someone managed to post several times suggesting that off-wiki communication with an OTRS agent was inappropriate.) | |||
I don't think we've ever interacted before, but I want to say thanks for your contributions and my deepest condolences and sympathies go out to your friends and family. Rest in Peace. ] (] – ]) 08:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC) | |||
:You may also have noticed that Floquenbeam was a recused arbitrator in the request, in addition to being an admin - you can guess where I may have had a conversation with her. Many of the people I listed I spoke to both on and off of wiki. You can see an example of this in Snowolf's parting comment: "I have discussed the matter briefly with Kevin and I am satisfied with his assurance that the off-wiki discussion were proper. Amusingly, said discussion came off-wiki :D --Snowolf". (You may also note that Snowolf is a steward, rather than/in addition to an admin, and Writ is a crat in addition to an admin. I'm not suggesting that those statuses mean that their opinions are more significant (well, perhaps for the arb...,) just pointing them out for accuracy.) ] (]) 06:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Huh?! (Do you want me to provide diffs of your posts? Short of that, above you write: {{tq|I didn't suggest I would send an email to emergency}}, and then: {{tq|he last thing I pointed out were that I'd go ahead and email emergency}}.) Giano suggested you contact arbs or WMF. (So why are you denying that too?) Please keep a straight story. ] (]) 07:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC) p.s. Do you want those diffs? p.p.s. I'm not interested in, nor have I ever brought up, issue of on-wiki vs. off-wiki communications. (So please leave those topics with others, not me.) ] (]) 07:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::You seem to be having some trouble parsing what I'm saying. I'm going to respond to this post because I can see how one clause could be confusing, but will be shutting this section down if you continue to post things that are either misunderstandings of what I've said, or deliberate omissions (since as what Cullen pointed out below, your post directly above, or the first sentence of your first post in this section.) I said "I didn't suggest I would send an email to emergency or contact two arbitrators." and intended that as a complete clause. Saying that I would send an email to emergency does not falsify that clause. Did Giano suggest I contact arbs or WMF? He may have, somewhere. He wasn't the first (by any means,) didn't suggest the contact means I've laid out, and certainly isn't the reason why I will be doing so in the future. I sincerely doubt that he suggested I specifically contact ''two'' arbs, because that's bluntly a bad idea, and I have no doubt Giano is intelligent, so if you have a diff, go ahead. ] (]) 07:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::{{U|Ihardlythinkso}}, I was involved in the initial discussion on Jimbo's talk page. On February 11, Kevin and I discussed the matter off-wiki, through Facebook, and I gave him both some general advice and some specific advice that was implicitly critical of some of his conduct. I think that it is unproductive to try to count the number of people who interacted with Kevin about this, and to try to determine whether or not that constituted a "flood" which is an imprecise term in this context. Why not move on and work on improving the encyclopedia instead? ] ] 06:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::@Cullen, you don't get the point ... Kevin has consistently shown obtuse weasel-wordiness in this whole affair. Suggesting there was "a flood" of on-wiki corrections from "people he respects", when there was just one, is another example. (Kevin selected the manipulative and untrue "flood" as manner of excuse and defense -- I didn't -- all I've done is shown there is no veracity to the meaning. So please quit tryng to shame me baselessly.) ] (]) 06:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::IHTS, please be productive. You have no idea who I talked to, or in what contexts. One of the people I had thought of naming but didn't (because some people have gotten very cranky about off-wiki communication occurring,) just volunteered himself. You have no idea how many people I've spoken with, in what contexts, or what they said. I've named multiple people whose words influenced me, and there are many more I didn't name. After two ANI's without action taken, and an RFAR as well, I think it's reasonable that I request you be productive and truthful here or elsewise go elsewhere. ] (]) 07:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::I am certainly not trying to shame anyone, {{U|Ihardlythinkso}}. I simply reported, accurately, that I was among those who offered some off-wiki criticism to him. The quote in your initial post included "both on and offwiki". Why, then, did you drop "offwiki" from your last comment? What is accomplished by continuing to question Kevin on this? ] ] 07:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::::When you are relying on a quote from Kevin that specifically mentions off-wiki communication, and if you then proceed to criticize the credibility of that quote, then logic and fairness compels you to be "interested" in off-wiki communication, {{U|Ihardlythinkso}}. ] ] 07:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::::That's BS, Cullen. (You can't go around making up stuff and putting same in the mind and mouth of editors, then making them responsible for same. That's manipulative. And worse.) I have no interest in off-wiki communication, and never have. Kevin is the party who implied there was "a flood" of on-wiki corrections from editors he took to heart -- not me. My analysis was about that -- and showed there was only one. (Then you attack me and try and shame me, and I have no idea what valid basis you have for that. The simple fact is that your post here was unnecessary since it was based on a reading mistake that you made -- and I am not accountable for that. So please, kindly, get off my case with the manipulative nonsense.) ] (]) 07:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
Just as a note so the previous two lines make sense: while Cullen was replying to IHTS, I removed a post of IHTS as disingenuous at best, as I had previously stated I would do. ] (]) 07:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC) |
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Seems to be something that others here should be aware of
https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/
I have no way of verifying the truth of this report. Eric Corbett 19:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I'm hearing the same. :-( Working on a confirmation. Ed 20:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I've forwarded this to WP:AN, not because I want a wider audience but because somebody there will be able to take the appropriate action. I cannot see any reason to believe what I read on the Facebook page is not true. :-( Ritchie333 20:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing on Google I can see, beyond the Facebook that Eric linked.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I've forwarded this to WP:AN, not because I want a wider audience but because somebody there will be able to take the appropriate action. I cannot see any reason to believe what I read on the Facebook page is not true. :-( Ritchie333 20:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Rest in peace
I regret to say that it's true. Rest well, buddy, and my best wishes go out to your family and everyone close to you. Ed 20:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I think maybe we crossed paths a few times, however the loss of a fellow contributor, especially one so young is sad. May you rest in peace. RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- You are missed. Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I am heartsick to learn of this. My deepest sympathies to Kevin's family and loved ones. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I last saw him at the wikiconference in October, and I'm so sad to hear of this. All the best to his family. WWB (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of the work you performed here at WikiP. My condolences to friends and family. MarnetteD|Talk 21:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- My sincerest condolences to his family. Never got to work with him, though I did respect him as an Admin and editor. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of the work you performed here at WikiP. My condolences to friends and family. MarnetteD|Talk 21:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I last saw him at the wikiconference in October, and I'm so sad to hear of this. All the best to his family. WWB (talk) 21:31, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I am heartsick to learn of this. My deepest sympathies to Kevin's family and loved ones. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:09, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- You are missed. Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Always sad news, and very little to be said. Very sorry to hear about this, my condolences to his friends on and off wiki and his family. Keegan (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- No words feel good enough to express my feeling well. I'm heartened that you were able to help three folks live with generous donations and that you continue to help people. You will indeed be missed and it was a pleasure to have met you and work with you. I hope your family and loved ones are well and make it through this undoubtedly difficult time. Much love, EvergreenFir (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Incredibly sad news. Condolences to his family and those who knew him. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:47, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- So sad, my heart aches. RIP, my friend; you are missed beyond words. Condolences to family and friends, on and off wiki. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Shocking news. My condolences to Kevin's friends and family. Carrite (talk) 21:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Not the sort of thing I expected to see. I'm sorry about what's happened and I hope your family will be okay. Best wishes. Acalamari 21:53, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace Kevin. You will be missed greatly. -- KTC (talk) 22:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to see this. I was hoping Kevin could get past his difficulties and move on. Lynn (SLW) (talk) 22:18, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Kevin for all you have done over the years. Will miss your wise and thoughtful input. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:35, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Fare thee well--Rberchie (talk) 23:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- I wish you peace, Kevin. Sadness for your family. Silence just because... Fylbecatulous talk 00:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Peace--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- We all have to go, but you went too soon, mate. Missed. --Andreas JN466 00:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- It happens too soon. I am grateful for every conversation we had. Thanks for your early support of my Misplaced Pages projects. I am sorry for the loss. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Really sorry to hear. Arkon (talk) 00:50, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- RIP Kevin, Unfortunately we've never edited any articles together however I've seen you around and you'll be missed alot, Thanks for everything you've done, My sincerest condolences to friends & family x –Davey2010 01:00, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Aww, damn it. Kevin, you are missed. You did a lot of good here. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- .إِنَّا للهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ Keilana (talk) 04:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- You will be missed, Kevin. My deepest condolences to your loved ones. SarahSV 05:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- I am heartbroken to hear this news. I've always enjoyed Kevin's insights, and Misplaced Pages will be a little less bright without him. You will be sorely missed, and I hope that wherever you are, you will look down upon us and see pride in the work we hope to continue for you. --Sky Harbor 06:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your great work over the years. You will be missed. My condolences to your friends and family. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:33, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- I couldn't believe it initially, I often recall your grants retrospective. Nemo 06:44, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- This is beyond sad. I'm at a loss for words as I type this. Although I didn't personally know you, you seemed like a wonderful person, and our interactions were always great. Thank you for helping to build Misplaced Pages and for staunchly defending it from detrimental edits. Thank you for believing in me as much as I believed in you. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:03, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace, Kevin -- you left us too soon! Thank you for all your hard work on behalf of Misplaced Pages and the Wikimedia movement. Your passion came through very clearly in the few interactions we had. My heartfelt condolences to friends, family and loved ones. Eloquence* 07:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences to your family and loved ones. So early :( Anthere (talk)
- Sorry to hear about Kevin's death. RIP. My heart extends to his family and loved ones. Shlomif (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- What tragic news. Kevin was my deskmate during his internship at the Wikimedia Foundation, and later interviewed me at length for the Grants retrospective. He was passionate and informed in all he did, and he cared about getting it right, on- and off-wiki. We are the poorer now. Ijon (talk) 09:43, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace Kevin. My deepest condolences. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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- In 2014, I pointed this image out to you, Kevin. Sad that it's now for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace Gorman —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 14:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- I am deeply saddened by the passing of Kevin. Once we began corresponding over a year ago, he treated me with respect, kindness, tact, sensitivity and with the highest example of good faith. I have found him to be a staunch ally and supporter for building the encyclopedia. I especially enjoy his essays. If any of his family is reading this, please know that I am grieving with you and for you and can't even imagine what you must be going through. If there is any question at all about the amazing contributions that Kevin has made to Misplaced Pages, just know that it will never be the same without him. Kevin, I miss you already! The Very Best of Regards,
- Bfpage |leave a message 14:31, 30 July 2016 (UTC),
- my real name is Barbara Page and I am from Pittsburgh. I didn't think an anonymous note would do him justice.
- There are far too few who cared so much about this place. A loss for this project and for us all. Gamaliel (talk) 14:34, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- R.I.P. Stan 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:36, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Deeply sorry to hear this. Regrettably, I never worked much with him, but always respected and esteemed him as a Wikipedian. RIP.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Very sorry to see this. --Rschen7754 16:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Very sad news. Prayers and condolences to his family friends and loved ones. Memory eternal! -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:28, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- Kevin, you were one of the first Wikipedians I was introduced to in depth, and I was so struck by your deep sense of dedication to do good and to do right for Misplaced Pages, for Wikimedia, for systemic bias in free knowledge... Your energy and enthusiasm will be sorely missed. Rest in power. Anasuyas (talk) 17:56, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- It's incredibly sad when someone so young passes away, but at least Kevin will be remembered for his contributions here. Sincerest condolences to his family and friends.- MrX 21:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- I did not interact with Kevin much, either on- or off-wiki, but there was no missing the way he stood up for principles in discussions of policy. He will be missed. Daniel Case (talk) 00:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace, Kevin. You did a lot of good in this world, and it will be a worse place without you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just woke up to this shocking news. Very sorry to hear this. Kevin was far too young to die. My condolences to his friends and family. I have an idea for a possible way to pay tribute if it would be appropriate and not too soon to talk about this (see below). Carcharoth (talk) 06:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages is now poorer. Collect (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Goodbye. :( II | (t – c) 19:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Very sad news indeed, my condolences go to those who worked with him here, and knew him personally. Rest in peace. Zero 13:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- I first met Kevin in spring 2011. I was doing communications for the Wikimedia Foundation’s Public Policy Initiative (the pilot of the program now run by the Wiki Education Foundation, where I now work), and we’d created a tool that showed how many edits and how much content each student had added to Misplaced Pages. One username stood out from a class UC Berkeley, and after looking at this new user’s contribs, I realized he’d started editing far beyond his coursework; Kevin had gotten the Misplaced Pages bug and was busy improving articles on mushrooms (a hobby of his) and reverting vandalism. Kevin’s devotion to Misplaced Pages was apparent, even in the early days of his editing career (I think he never actually finished the article he was supposed to work on for class, he’d gotten so excited about improving other Misplaced Pages articles). Kevin continued on in the education program as a volunteer, and I was pleased to see him become more involved in different aspects of Misplaced Pages. He recruited several classes as the first Wikipedian in Residence at UC Berkeley after he graduated, with his own unique Kevin way of approaching courses: always with an interest to countering systemic bias and always making sure he was doing the right thing ethically for both the student editors and Misplaced Pages. His impact will continue to be felt for years to come within the education program in the United States. Thanks for all your hard work, Kevin. We miss you already. --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your excellent and well-intentioned contributions. You're missed already. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:33, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- RIP. You did not deserve so few years.--Begoon 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Rest in peace, Kevin. You are missed.--Cúchullain /c 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Wow, very sorry to hear this. One of the "good guys". A name to conjure with. Rest in Peace, Kevin. Softlavender (talk) 23:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- I, too, was enormously shocked to hear about this. I find it deeply saddening that we often fail to fully appreciate someone's value until they are no longer around. Events like these should be a wake-up call—it is long past time to realize the pettiness and complete lack of meaningful consequence to all the ugly controversies and bickering. We must grasp the fact that real people with lives and feelings are behind those words and signatures. I offer my sincere condolences and well-wishes to Kevin's family, and I commend him for his selfless organ donations to those who were in desperate need of assistance. Biblio (talk) WikiProject Reforming Misplaced Pages. 23:12, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Rest easy, another warm soul gone too soon. I believe we crossed paths a few times, but all the kind words from fellow wikipedians allowed me the pleasure of learning more about you. I appreciate the time you have given to preserve knowledge for countless others, and, with equal importance, the positive impact you clearly left on editors.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- I am so shocked to hear of this. He was far too young. My condolences to his family and his friends and his many collaborators in free knowledge and justice. Kevin and I didn't have that many conversations but in every one I heard his deep passion for the work of improving our culture on all levels; he never ceased to be shocked at things that aren't right, and to channel that shock into activism and organizing. I will miss his dedication and I will remember his ideals. Sumana Harihareswara 16:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- I worked closely with Kevin when he volunteered in the education program, primarily at Berkeley. Since I was in San Francisco and working at WMF at the time, he used to come by for in-person meetings and lunches. I never could take notes quickly enough to capture his great ideas and enthusiasm for improving students' lives while they improved Misplaced Pages. Kevin also encouraged me to edit as a volunteer, which I continue to do today. He will live on in so many of our memories, but—perhaps most apropos—through Misplaced Pages, which is better because of him. Jami (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Very sad to hear this, my deepest condolences to his loved ones, Huldra (talk) 21:35, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Kevin, I've always admired your character and dedication. Rest in peace. Airplaneman ✈ 15:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
- Very saddened to hear this. Thank you endlessly for all of your contributions to this project. Mz7 (talk) 03:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Goodbye, thank you for your work, and bienvenue à dans étoiles. Dschslavaparlez moi 03:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Too, too young. Condolences to Kevin's loved ones. Your great passion is what I remember and celebrate. RIP. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to hear this. Rest in peace, Kevin. --Pine 03:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Never interacted with you but Rest in Piece and my condolences go to his friends and family. MWright96 (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
- Always sad, to learn of a fellow Wikipedian's passing. My condolenses to the Gorman family :( GoodDay (talk) 14:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- Whatever our differences, I am saddened by this news. Kevin was a great Wikipedian, I will not forget him. Worm(talk) 12:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- Such a loss for the community. Mkdw 15:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for your generosity of spirit, time, intellect, and vital organs, Kevin. We will miss you. The Interior (Talk) 18:36, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- RIP, Kevin. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- RIP. Ethanlu121 (talk) 22:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- My condolences to Kevin's family and friends. We were in touch briefly last fall with the aim of meeting up to talk about teaching with Misplaced Pages; even though he said he wasn't sure when his health would stabilize, he was full of ideas for the future. I'm sorry we never managed to get together and that the world has lost such a dynamo.Alafarge (talk) 18:22, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
- Kevin, you threw your heart and bones at the world, fighting for truth in your work. I don't know anyone else who thought so little of the burdens on themself while they advocated for the rights of others. Thank you for your crazy wild warrior spirit and dedication to human rights. No one will say you didn't give it your all. Ocaasi 20:40, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- Kevin Gorman, gone far too soon. Rest in peace. MB298 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry
that our last conversations were so much unlike our first ones. You and I worked together on a case a long time ago which seemed unwinnable, and we prevailed, for the best of the project. I learned a lot from that, and felt like I knew you a bit. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't--we certainly drifted apart, one way or another, and in one or two fairly crucial cases we did not agree, and I always wished I could have seen eye to eye with you, physically, in the real world, and maybe that would have changed things. You always had a real dedication to this beautiful project of ours, more sincere than many of us, which is probably why you got in real trouble here because you were so dedicated, and sheesh you are too fucking young to be gone. They should take some of us old people, the ones who think they're always right and are sometimes too set in their ways. And who are old and expendable. There's a lot of folks who loved you, Kevin, and I'm , well, I'm sort of out of words. You are one of my oldest friends and colleagues on Misplaced Pages, I mean you were, and it won't be the same without you, tall skinny young person with your funky hairdo. Why do we say the things that matter only when it's too late? sorry yall--NOTSOZCIALNETWORK i know. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Continuing Kevin's work
After hearing the awful news above, I was re-reading Kevin's user page, and I noticed his words on missing women philosopher articles. Would in some way, when the time is right, continuing the work he started there be an appropriate way to pay tribute? There may be other ideas (the Facebook page mentioned donations to the National Organization for Rare Disorders), but I am throwing this idea out there. Carcharoth (talk) 06:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Organ donation have begun improving article--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:34, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- These are some wonderful ideas. Keep making the world a better place. Rest in peace, Kevin. Montanabw 21:39, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing this out, and for the wonderful idea. I just started Anita Avramides in tribute. Anasuyas (talk) 05:34, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Improving Elizabeth Anscombe to GA in tribute to what will be eventually the first good article for a woman philosopher (it needs to be rewritten due to huge sections of unsourced content: draft is here). — Esquivalience (talk) 02:25, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Ping me if you end up planning an edit-a-thon for User:Kevin Gorman/philosophers czar 01:00, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
How about a barnstar?
Kevin cared very much about working with, and reaching out to, student editors. It occurs to me that the Misplaced Pages Ambassador Barnstar is intended for just that kind of activity, by campus and online ambassadors. I'd like to propose that we rename it the "Kevin Gorman Ambassador Barnstar". Is there support for doing this? --Tryptofish (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish: Seconded. Ed 20:25, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- third--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Fourthed ? .... Anyway +1 It sounds lovely! –Davey2010 21:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- This is an excellent idea. Should it be raised somewhere else (e.g. on the talk page of the barnstar or at Misplaced Pages talk:Education program), or should it just be done WP:BOLDly after discussion here? Is anyone in contact with his family? Carcharoth (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- I believe WP:BOLDly after discussion here is more than enough to just do the barnstarMisplaced Pages:Barnstars...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- I already left notes at the talkpage of the barnstar template, and at the talkpage of the WikiProject that deals with barnstars. An editor at the latter had a question, and I directed them to raise the question in the discussion here. I'll also add a note at the Education noticeboard now. I think it would be a good idea to let a few more days pass before making any bold edits. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:45, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- If there is consensus for this, there will need to be a link to some text explaining the rename and why it was done, so the reasoning is available in the future to those using this award. The closest things I've found to a permanent tribute to deceased Wikipedians (as opposed to user talk page condolence and tribute threads and an entry at Misplaced Pages:Deceased Wikipedians) is Misplaced Pages:Wadewitz Tribute Edit-a-thons and the 2014 Wikipedian of the Year award (though others may be able to think of other examples). Carcharoth (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. --Tryptofish (talk) 15:42, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- If there is consensus for this, there will need to be a link to some text explaining the rename and why it was done, so the reasoning is available in the future to those using this award. The closest things I've found to a permanent tribute to deceased Wikipedians (as opposed to user talk page condolence and tribute threads and an entry at Misplaced Pages:Deceased Wikipedians) is Misplaced Pages:Wadewitz Tribute Edit-a-thons and the 2014 Wikipedian of the Year award (though others may be able to think of other examples). Carcharoth (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- This is an excellent idea. Should it be raised somewhere else (e.g. on the talk page of the barnstar or at Misplaced Pages talk:Education program), or should it just be done WP:BOLDly after discussion here? Is anyone in contact with his family? Carcharoth (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Fourthed ? .... Anyway +1 It sounds lovely! –Davey2010 21:29, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- third--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:14, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support – But if renaming the existing barnstar, it might be worth considering changing the "ambassador" part as well. Ambassador is a specific user role/program in the context of Misplaced Pages, and one that isn't terribly active on enwiki (though there are ongoing discussions about reviving it). Thus it seems likely that people would assume the barnstar is for (or for use by) ambassadors with that program, and thus wouldn't see much use (and would go unused altogether if that program were to be discontinued). Kevin was an ambassador, but was also involved at the intersection of Misplaced Pages and education in other ways, engaging with faculty, staff, students, Wikipedians, and the public. He also -- and I think this is very important -- came to Misplaced Pages through the education program (when it was the Public Policy Initiative). Perhaps something like "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", or the "Misplaced Pages in Education Gormanstar" or somesuch? FYI I work with the Wiki Education Foundation, but am commenting here solely in a volunteer capacity. — Rhododendrites \\ 23:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- Those are good points. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the existing barnstar unchanged, and instead create a new one. I would go with the "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", rather than the other name. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish, The ed17, Ozzie10aaaa, and Davey2010: For the sake of taking the next step, I went ahead and created Template:Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar and uploaded a basic barnstar image. The template is basically the Original Barnstar, and the image is that barnstar with an education program logo. See three versions 1 (current), 2, 3. I won't be offended if anyone wants to make/use a different image, use a different name, or go a different route altogether -- I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I also added some text to the "header" and "for" fields. — Rhododendrites \\ 14:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Template:Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:14, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, I think this is the best way to go – thanks! I support the "current" version, aka #1, of the star, and I cannot think of any corrections to the template. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Wow it looks perfect!, Thanks Rhododendrites for kindly doing this. –Davey2010 18:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Tryptofish, The ed17, Ozzie10aaaa, and Davey2010: For the sake of taking the next step, I went ahead and created Template:Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar and uploaded a basic barnstar image. The template is basically the Original Barnstar, and the image is that barnstar with an education program logo. See three versions 1 (current), 2, 3. I won't be offended if anyone wants to make/use a different image, use a different name, or go a different route altogether -- I just wanted to get the ball rolling. I also added some text to the "header" and "for" fields. — Rhododendrites \\ 14:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Those are good points. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the existing barnstar unchanged, and instead create a new one. I would go with the "Kevin Gorman Education Program barnstar", rather than the other name. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:46, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
- I totally support this. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:58, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- I think that it has become very clear that editors commenting here support going ahead with this barnstar. The required procedure for doing so is to open a discussion at the WikiProject talkpage associated with such awards. I have just done so, at:
- It is important that editors here, who support the barnstar, also comment on your support for it there. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:42, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Doing right because it was right
I'm nearly speechless having learned of your death today, Kevin. My impression of you through our public interactions here as well as through email showed me you were an honorable man who believed in doing right – in spite of it not always being popular – simply because it was the right thing to do. I will always remember you in the best of terms and those who treated you horribly or didn't step in to defend you (when you were no longer going to be an admin) in the lowest of terms. You deserved much better treatment and respect. To echo the sentiments of others already commenting here, you left us too soon my friend – way too soon. May the road rise to meet you, may the wind always be at your back; may the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields; until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand. Rest in peace and with the angels, Kevin Gorman. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 22:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, this is very much as I remember Kevin. Mathsci (talk) 22:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
Post about Kevin on Feminist Philosophers blog
We posted something to honor Kevin on the Feminist Philosophers blog here. If anyone would like to comment or add or even correct inaccuracies, please do. Also, if you know people who were close to Kevin, maybe they would like to know about the post? Madva (talk) 01:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for this, Madva. I've shared your post, and started an article on Anita Avramides to honour Kevin. As I was looking at his list, I realised how few of these academics and thinkers had any substantial information on them (I started with Hide Ishiguro, as the only? person on the list not originally from Europe or North America, but there was almost silence on the internet). It is sadly never surprising to me, but always horrifying. Thank you for the inspiration you gave Kevin, and I'd be delighted if you or some of your students might find time to improve and expand the Avramides article. Anasuyas (talk) 14:23, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
- I first met Kevin in 2011 at a "Misplaced Pages in Higher Education" conference in Boston. He was then known for his work on mushroom articles. Over the years, I have participated in several edit-a-thons in San Francisco and Berkeley with him. He was committed to Misplaced Pages, free knowledge, gender equality, fairness in biographies of philosophers and positive values. He was open in discussing his health problems but I did not know that they were life threatening. His life was far too short, but a bit of him lives on in the living bodies of the recipients of his transplanted organs. I will donate blood next week in his memory and encourage others to do so as well. He will be missed. Cullen Let's discuss it 03:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Kevin's heart still beats
From the facebook page:
- "Kevin's heart still beats! His heart was successfully transplanted into another person last week, as was his liver and a kidney. Kevin saved three lives last week by sharing his organs. May his heart continue to beat for many years."
I think a fitting tribute to Kevin would be to register as an organ donor. --Guy Macon (talk) 09:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Why did someone decide to cut onions near my desk right now? Seriosuly, that is the the best gift one can give, life for others. Already an organ donor myself, and I recommend that if you can, please consider it. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
With a heavy heart...
One of the last things Kevin said to me in an email exchange, January 6, 2016..."I think people often underestimate the amount of healing that family members and loved ones of those who undergo serious medical and other crises have to do even when their physical bodies were not the physical bodies directly affected." His words spoke volumes to me about his sensitivity toward others. He will be missed. 06:33, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
Memorial fund
My name is Sierra and I was a very close friend of Kevin's who is organizing the memorial. If anyone feels moved to donate to his memorial fund, which will be used to support his memorial and beyond that his preferred charities, you may do so here: https://www.youcaring.com/kevingormanfund. If you would like to attend the event, please see his memorial page https://www.facebook.com/bombus.memoriam/ for event details. If you wish to attend virtually, check back regularly because details for webcasting the event are still TBD. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.194.86 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar in Kevin's memory
The Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar is now officially listed at Misplaced Pages:Barnstars. Here is what it looks like:
Kevin Gorman Education Program Barnstar | ||
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Thanks to Rhododendrites, who designed it. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
From Gender Gap-list
It breaks my heart that I am not able to post condolences to his talk page. I wanted to say so much about what he did for people behind the scenes, how he kept this forum moderated and open for discussion after arbcom closed down the gender gap project, and how when he talked, the ideas rushed out of him as if he knew how little time he had, and could overcome mortality itself in order to accomplish them, but in the end, there are no words, there are no words. —Neotarf July 30, 2016.
Proxy edit per IAR. Carrite (talk) 19:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikiconference edit-a-thon?
A few people mentioned continuing Kevin's work on women philosophers. It's too late to submit a session to the upcoming Wikiconference in San Diego, but for those involved/attending, would there be some time to set aside for a short edit-a-thon? Or perhaps it's something to bring up at the Unconference, or something that runs through the weekend? — Rhododendrites \\ 22:24, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- FYI looks like this is happening on Saturday. See Misplaced Pages:Meetup/San Diego/WCNA2016/Kevin Gorman Memorial. — Rhododendrites \\ 18:27, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Updated link, edit request
It's probably unimportant, but the link to ] should now show California Assembly Bill 1535 (2014) instead, or in addition to, the red link. Mathglot (talk) 00:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)@Mathglot: You've looked at the top of Kevin's user talk page, right? -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:30, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Marchjuly, Yes. I should have added, that this was addressed to anyone following up redlinks why there was one inlink remaining to a page moved with no redirect whose links were (almost) all cleaned up, why this page wasn't also fixed. Answer: due to its protection level; but neither does it matter, and they can disregard it. Mathglot (talk) 01:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Amy Allen (philosopher)
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- David, this editor is deceased. Second, are do you have evidence of copying or is the content merely the same? A lot of pages copy stuff from Misplaced Pages. Jehochman 12:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I looked at the revision history. It’s not a reverse copy. It’s not a copy either. The material is properly cited and constructed from multiple sources. I’m going to close the copyvio investigation in a moment. Jehochman 12:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I just use twinkle, which cannot tell. I would rather post a few inappropriate notices than not notify someone who needs to be noticed. But one of the reasons a post here might not be entirely inappropriate is that it allows the many people who still l watchlist the page in his memory to correct errors., like my error here DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. You make several good points. Jehochman 15:35, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
- I just use twinkle, which cannot tell. I would rather post a few inappropriate notices than not notify someone who needs to be noticed. But one of the reasons a post here might not be entirely inappropriate is that it allows the many people who still l watchlist the page in his memory to correct errors., like my error here DGG ( talk ) 19:47, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you
I don't think we've ever interacted before, but I want to say thanks for your contributions and my deepest condolences and sympathies go out to your friends and family. Rest in Peace. Lord Sjones23 (talk – contributions) 08:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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