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Dinner with Big Brother (Kris Noble)

A sentence under the Week 14 heading reads "She was then told that she, and three friends in the house, would later that day dine with Big Brother". I added that it was BB producer Kris Noble who they actually dined with. It was removed by User:JD UK as "irrelevant". I think the sentence makes more sense by including whom, exactly, they dined with, rather than just stating it was "Big Brother". Can we get some discussion on this? Cnwb 23:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Unless the housemates saw, or were told who the voice of Big Brother is or was at the time, it's irrelevant. We don't need to know what the housemates didn't. —JD 10:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, saying that they dined with Kris Noble if they dined with Big Brother could make some people think they dined with the man himself. —JD 10:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

^^^ JD is correct in leaving it as Big Brother. However, it was for the wrong reasons. Kris Noble DOES NOT do any voiceovers as Big Brother even though many assume he does. There are three other people who do it. Peter Abbot, back when he was Exec Producer, decided to do the voices. Kris has no obligation to do so.

The IMDb says here that Kris Noble is the voice of Big Brother from 2004 onwards, but another page does say that there is another voice for the most recent Big Brother seasons. I guess I trust the IMDb a little too much if that is incorrect. _{talk to} JD 20:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Even back in the Peter Abbott days, there were different voices of Big Brother; Abbott did not voice all of the Big Brother commands. There was even a female voice in season one. Asa01 21:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Prize Summary

Can anyone help with providing a summary of prizes for contestants ?

Which ones? All of them? —JD 10:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Well - all, as this would give some idea of the level of reward that each contestant experienced...

Most of the contestants got the same prize - $2500, $5000, or $10,000; a car or scooter; and a holiday. I'd certainly help, but I dunno if people think it should go in; me not being people and all. —JD 12:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Approval Voting

I removed the claim that Big Brother votes follow the Approval vote method. They don't. Anyone may vote both evict or save and multiple times for any nominated housemate. Approval voting allows only one approval for any or multiple candidates, but not multiple approvals which is what Big Brother allows. Approval voting also does not feature a disapproval vote (evict), so the inclusion of "Approval voting" is pretty meaningless. Asa01 04:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Article name

I just noticed this article in my watchlist - Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Big Brother#Naming articles states "Articles about a Big Brother series are named Big Brother ( series )". I suggest the recent name changes to the Australian BB articles should be reversed. -- Chuq 05:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Fair use of images

Although each individual use of each copyrighted image on this page would qualify as "fair use" in U.S. law, as a whole, having 28 copyrighted images would not qualify as fair use. In the U.S., the quantity of the copied work is of principal importance in determining whether the use is acceptable or not. I have removed all but the most important copyrighted images. Note that an article on the each individual person could include that person's image without problems, if anyone wants to do that. All the best, – Quadell 13:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Just a question, I am not disagreeing with you (it actually makes good sense), just curious for your imput, but since most individual constestant pages are not allowed anyway to have a photo of them on (since they are not considered famous/worthy enough), isn't what you just suggested a bit of a Catch-22 situation? Can't have their photos here, can't have them there. Eh, I am new(ish) and am just intrested in the advice of people like yourself. Hope that is okay. ChenBot 01:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages's Fair Use Policy states that the use of film and television screenshots for critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television is generally approved on Misplaced Pages. Seeing as there is no mention of the number the images which can be used, I don't think it was necessary to remove the images from this article.

I understand that the number of images may be important in the case that they were all of the same person. However, these images where all of different people, and there was only one image of each of them. They were also in seperate sections of the article, each detailing the individual people. Therefore I believe that the use of these images is protected under Misplaced Pages's Fair Use Policy. Amazonis 05:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Well reasonable people can disagree on this. I think we're both reasonable. And we disagree. – Quadell 06:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Lauren

There are two major mistakes in Lauren's profile - it says that she spent the shortest amount of time in the house and was the only housemate ever to have no fines.

These are both wrong.

Both Violetta (BB4) and Rachel Corbett (BB1) spent two days in the house (I think Rachel might of only been 24 hours). The misinfomation of Lauren being the shortest ever staying housemate was I believe an off-the-cuff comment made by Rove McManus.

And I am also positive Rob Ridgley recieved no fines during his stay in the house. I remember he was acting rather smary about it after his eviction.

ChenBot 13:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Rob did get at least one, he spoke without his microphone when he got his first. Lauren mentioned the two records herself, perhaps she was wrong about the shortest stay one? According to the BB01 article, Rachel was in the House for four days, and the BB04 article doesn't even say when Violetta entered the House. _{J Di} 14:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Well even if Rachel did stay 4 days, she ties with Lauren and thus that info is somewhat wrong. Granted it was 6 years ago, the memory barely exists since it wasn't exactly something I bother to retain first time around. I'm positive though that Violetta was barely in the house for more then a couple of days. Still all in all take it as you may. Grand statements made by housemates on the stage are not neccessarily gospel (hey, look at me and the Rob/fine thing! I did that very thing!)

I remember at the BehindBigBrother.com forum there was a thread about this. Just as much hearsay as my post here, but I am pretty positive Lauren wasn't the shortest staying housemate.

Thanks for the info on Rob though. I wish the offical website was still up (damn BB for being cheap and piggy backing off a phone company) because I am addicted to checking past facts and info off such places.

ChenBot 01:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Rob got one fine and Lauren was there from Wednesday to Sunday.
In 2001 Rachel entered on Monday - Day 36 and was evicted on friday - Day 40

In 2004 Violeta entered on Friday - Day 57, and was evicted on Tuesday - Day 61 - 203.51.88.113 20:11, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Michael (from season 5, 2005), did not get any fines. I remember a fine tally board that the official website made towards the end of the show (well after Michael had been evicted), and his name was the only one not on there.

Should those "calls for cancelation" really count as "calls for cancelation"?

Somebody asked for their opinion and they provided it. There wan't really any vendettas going on here.--58.104.111.29 04:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Intruders

Rachel (2001), Nicole (2002), Jaime (2003), Violeta (2004) were all evicted through existing housemates voting for which intruder they wanted to stay. Each year, these specials were advertised as "Housemate's Revenge". Only Jaime from 2003 is quoted as being evicted in this way. Due to no public involvement, this is significant and thus I have added these to the respective years' HM tables.

This would also include Lauren for this year as Big Brother asked the HMs to vote which Intruder they wanted to keep.

121.45.231.227 11:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Irrelevant Big Mother original research

The following seems irrelevant:

Despite publicity using the term "World First", international seasons of Big Brother have previously used similar concepts. The fourth Greek season had a series called Big Mother where nine houseguests participated in the game with their mothers, with whom they had to co-exist during the contest. The houseguests' mothers were not eligible to win the prize, but had to stay with their sons and daughters until their eviction. Another Big Brother series had housemates enter the House with their mothers, but the mothers did not stay.

To me it seems like original research to decide that this is somehow similar to or is in any way connected to or comparable with the Krystal/Karen mother/daughter secret relationship task. Their's was a secret relationship. Their challenge was to not be detected. Other housemates had the challenge to discover the secret relationship in the house. The fact that it was a mother and a child is the only similarity with Big Mother. Presumably in Big Mother the mother child teams were not secret. Their were no challenges to keep the secret, or for others to uncover it. Also, in Big Mother, all the housemates had their mothers, not just one. And in the case of Krystal/Karen, if successful (which they were), both would be considered normal housemates. They could be evicted separately, and were not required to stay together, and were both eligble to win. It seems to me someone included this as they were miffed at the "world first" advertising hyperbole. That seems pretty silly, and in any event, the editor has not successfully proven that the Krystal/Karen situation wasn't a word first, because Big Mother was a way different thing all together. Anyway, who really takes these advertising slogans seriously anyway? Format 08:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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