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| == "Cassandra" IP sock SPI, again == | |||
| Hi Ed, I've had a go at tightening up a draft for an SPI for "Cassandra" ] (the section at the top). Is this more along the right lines? ] (]) 16:07, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :See ]. In my opinion an SPI filing is not really needed yet, since there is not much that can be done beyond semiprotection. Let me know if the problem exists elsewhere. It may not be worth the trouble to revert the editor's talk posts. ] (]) 16:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Fair enough; I'm happy with that as a shot across their bows may make them pay heed. Here's hoping. This article seems to be their primary focus since moving on from ] a few weeks ago. I'll keep you posted. ] (]) 01:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| duplicate posting deleted ] (]) 17:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Quiet for over a week since your semiprotection at Scottish Gaelic, Cassandra's reappeared today. They've found to tag their favourite views to. ] (]) 23:53, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tps}} Good heavens, that's not ], I hope..? ] | ] 00:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC). | |||
| ::Bishonen, we should block all the Cassandras just in case! @Mutt, are you keeping a list of these IPs somewhere? It could be helpful. The dialog at ] doesn't yet look bad enough to semi the talk page. ] (]) 03:24, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::The IPs are ] Ed. Yes, for that post it would seem harsh to semi-protect. It is though typical of the way Cassandra posts, at least initially, in a thread. It seems fairly benign and reasonable but if familiar with Cassandra's favoured themes, it's not hard to spot that they're taking the opportunity to hang those themes in an existing discussion on another matter. In this example the insertion of their term "Scot-land", with a hyphen, and reference to lowland Scots as being English are two familiar POV riffs which stand out to me. They may or may not pick up and run with them but I recognise this as being Cassandra's focus, rather than the thread's actual discussion of the term "patriot". But to act because one strongly suspects what they are up to, hmmm... ] (]) 11:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Just checked range contributions though and the sock seems to have been on one of their occasional common-or-garden vandalism sprees as well. is the most blatant but seems to be misinformation and possibly a joke with someone who attended the school or its predecessor (the sock has ). There's also . ] (]) 11:21, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Per above, as suspected the "Scot-land" and "'English' Lowlands" themes were continued later at , in an unrelated and similarly old forum post started by themself. ] (]) 16:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Though this may be annoying I don't think it's abusive. The vandalistic edits by don't look to be Cassandra. ] (]) 16:16, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::WP:NOTFORUM? I could elaborate as to what I think they are driving at re "Scot-land" and "English Lowlands" if that helps but it's oft-repeated OR of theirs, amongst several related OR themes, that they keep attempting to shoe-horn into any talk page or article that they feel they can. If it's the difference in character of the vandalistic edits (from the same IP range as Cassandra) that make it seem doubtful they are Cassandra, there have been plain vandalistic edits by IPs which identify in other edits as Cassandra: and , or have made edits to other articles characteristic of those targeted by Cassandra (this IP also edited at ] in a manner that was clearly Cassandra): . ] (]) 16:40, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I agree with you about NOTFORUM but don't see any admin action that is worth taking. The 2009 vandal edit at ] by is most likely by a different person than the 2013 edits that look to be Cassandra. IPs do change hands. ] (]) 16:48, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Sure, no problem. Though the user's broken record POV-pushing is blatant and transparent if one knows their history but much less obvious if encountering for the first time (particularly with the IP- and article-hopping) I'm conscious that to revert many of their posts may seem harsh to other observers but a concerted programme of "revert, ignore", per your comment in an earlier thread, may be the only way to go about it. Thanks for the help. ] (]) 22:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::...and they're really widening the scope of their target articles now: ] (]) 22:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==]== | |||
| Thanks for you protected ] and ] articles. Could you protect the above article too? SPs of ] from Craiova are very active with regard of this article. --] (]) 15:05, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :] you don't like the historical facts, so you prefer to hide them (by reverting me), on the reason that this ip is from Craiova ] (]) 15:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Semiprotected the massacres article, 86.127, feel free to work for consensus for your changes and consider creating an account. Without a fixed user talk page, nobody can leave you messages. More background is at ]. ] (]) 16:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Maybe you could also semiprotect ], where a sock of ] to add unsourced information (it is a blatant sock, a CU could easily confirm that the techincal data correspond). ] (]) 13:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Move under open AfD == | |||
| Hello EdJohnston! Please note {{diff|User_talk%3AFonEengIneeR7|596264726|596095192|this}}. I've requested move protection for the article until the AfD is closed.--''']''' ''{{sup|]}}'' 00:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :] is now move protected two weeks. ] (]) 13:42, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think the article can now be moved. The outcome of the AfD was to keep it.--''']''' ''{{sup|]}}'' 11:58, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Slavery in Iran == | |||
| What ''Hoary'' (is clear that is an anti-Iranian) has written about ''Slavery in Iran'' is '''nonsense words''' (e.x. The figure that has been added does not have any resource and is not clear that this is belong to which country and so on). '''The previous version of Slavery in Iran is correct version. So I have not removed the materials of the page. Just I returned the correct version.''' <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Feel free to persuade others that you are correct. If you continue to revert without persuading the others you'll probably be blocked. It's in your interest to try some diplomacy. If you are blocked then you'll have no further opportunity to make your case here, and no one will even hear your arguments. ] (]) 19:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Peregrine981 on Open Europe == | |||
| Peregrine981 apealed to you to block my account on Open Europe claiming there had been no discussion of my edits. On the contrary, there is a whole discussion thread. Peregrine981 I believe has abused his position as an editor by constantly reversing edits, removing balancing references and relying on citations from one blog post in march 2010 to paint a picture of an organisation that does not fit with the truth. Open Europe is a well regarded critic of the European Comission, havng an Editor who works for the European Commission involved in editing wars and abusing his position to block those who do not agree with him is an abuse of wikipedia - thanks. AyreSmith1 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Your account has been indefinitely blocked by a checkuser. Your complaint here didn't give me very much to go on since it has no links to anything I might recall. By searching around I found . I also see that I semiprotected ] on 31 January, most likely because of the ANI complaint about socking. Since ] was involved I assume that you have in fact been socking so I don't have much motivation to look further into the substantive issues about ]. ] (]) 19:23, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Is this editor still banned from Armenian and Azerbaijani articles? Since the 25 January 2014, he has clearly edited in articles concerning Armenia, Armenians, etc. Per this request by HouseOfArtaxiad, his request was denied. --] (]) 06:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Left a note for the editor at ]. It seems that a block may be necessary. ] (]) 14:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ed, you might want to look at the edits of this IP. They appear to mirror HouseOfArtaxiad's. Both appear to edit war in tandem for a particular POV. | |||
| ::Nazim Bey,, edit-warring. | |||
| ::Battle of Bitlis, | |||
| ::List of massacres in Turkey, | |||
| ::Kahramanmaras, | |||
| ::Just a little to much of a coincidence. --] (]) 02:21, 22 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Don't know if {{user|216.125.48.225}} is the same person as HOA, but his edits at ] justify a block in their own right and an AA2 warning. Others have already given him vandalism warnings. ] (]) 02:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| I filed a sockpuppet investigation request here: ], to see if the IP has anything to do with HouseOfArtaxiad. ]] 09:16, 22 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Those aren't Armenia-Azerbaijan articles. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
| :If you read the bottom of the ] page, it states: | |||
| ::''"Standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all pages related to Armenia, Azerbaijan, or related ethnic conflicts, broadly interpreted."'' Would you say that a massacre of Armenians, such as those directed by ], is not related to Armenia? How about ], when the victims are stated to be Armenian? ] (]) 19:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==Infraction== | |||
| Srnec user has violated the rule of three reversals twice ( and ). He took advantage of the system rules. He got it from blocking me so I could not report him and now his offense has expired, they tell me. I can not believe that this could be possible and I think that deserves a penalty.--] (]) 10:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Please review this User Page, and suggest improvements to it. == | |||
| ] in connection with the IAC controversy and the IP block. Thanks. | |||
| PS: we have attempted to use email many times to the OTRS email ID with dismal results. We had not escalated matters to the Office or General Counsel as we want to exhaust all opportunities which Misplaced Pages theoretically offers to outsiders. Ours is a matter with serious potential legal issues, and we would have appreciated if competent community editors with a strong legal background had also been involved. It seems to us that everybody hopes we should take our "hot potato" to the WMF Legal section. ] (]) 14:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello from Wiki New England gathering, I believe == | |||
| Hi. At the New England gathering last month at MIT, as a sign-in sheet was circulated, I was the person who remarked "One of you is on my watchlist." That was in reference to you, or so I believed after scanning the list of those who had signed in ahead of me. | |||
| I mention that now, as I stop watching--something I was doing for a technical reason rather than because we on many of the same pages. Feel free to delete. --] (]) 20:14, 25 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI == | |||
| ANI that might concern you - see ]. - ] (]) 11:25, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :It does concern me. I can't complain about how this turned out. Will the guy stop after a mere indefinite block? I'm afraid that the crusade will continue by other means. It's fun to get lectured about Misplaced Pages policy by somebody who won't even accept the Misplaced Pages terms of use. ] (]) 21:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==Help== | |||
| Hi, I have a complaint about ], he keeps not following talk page instructions and violating wikipedia's policies and adding what he thinks best. Could u please deal with him? - ] (]) 20:13, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Need some details. Is this a complaint about formatting of sports articles? What articles? ] (]) 16:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == ] Article == | |||
| I have been an observer of the Abbas Babaei article and have been following the recent conflict. I wanted to point out to you that this conflict seems to be getting no where. The IP address does not seem to not be cooperating and has explicitly said "I have no intention of co-operating with you" and "When the article is unblocked I will make my edits." the IP goes on to make another comment "And I ask you: did you ever see Abbas Babaei fly an F-14? If so, exactly when? Do you have any empirical proof he was an F-14 pilot?".<br />It seems to me that such comments make no effort to resolve the dispute?<br /> | |||
| Of course Hooperag is not totally innocent either... as they should have been more cooperative in the beginning and not have plagiarized from that website. However after the edit war they seem to have offered a fairly reasonable proposal to solve the problem. I recommend you as a Misplaced Pages administrator take some action with your mature judgment so this conflict can finally be resolved. I feel Hooperag's proposal is decent and you change the article to incorporate hooperag's suggestion and then keep the article protected for a few weeks until things cool down, and then depending on what you think, block the IP address and temporarily block Hooperag.<br /> | |||
| <br /> | |||
| I wish both parties had acted more cooperative and not have created this dispute in the first place. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Please use ] to reach consensus about what should be in the article. Anyone who won't follow a proper consensus can be sanctioned. You don't seem to have commented yet on the talk page yourself. Your participation might help motivate the others to discuss properly. Thanks, ] (]) 17:00, 26 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Block evasion - 108.48.144.42 --> 108.48.85.180 == | |||
| Hi Ed, just a heads-up that the kid who was abusing their thesaurus via ], and who was blocked for one month, has evaded their block and is doing the same stuff from ]. I've issued a fresh warning, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention so you can keep an eye on it. To refresh your memory, the kid uses too many words to say things, which results in sloppy, unencyclopedic language. "official love interest, true love, and girlfriend", "shared a romantic kiss". They were doing other pernicious stuff too like removing references from articles, changing Pocahontas' birthdate, etc. I've reverted most of their edits on the basis of block evasion. Though they do make improvements to some articles, like by correcting bad grammar and misspellings, this other crap they do devalues their contribution. It looks like good hand/bad hand vandalism. Here's the . Thanks, ] (]) 21:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Blocked the new IP for evasion. Thanks for your report. ] (]) 21:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Edit warring Haller's Blue Army == | |||
| {{hat|1=This should continue on the article talk. See ] for how to settle content disputes.}} | |||
| I have made grammatical and contextual improvements to the overall article. But, Faustian has an issue with just one paragraph. Instead of dealing with this on section he continually reverts all my edits, even though they were done section by section individually. I have asked to notice this fact but he did not take that in to consideration, instead he jumped at the opportunity to call my editing disruptive. --] (]) 00:56, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Context - this guy was caught falsifying a source. See here: . Now he's switched to making excuses for anti-Semitic violence in the article intro. Discussion is here: .] (]) 01:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :He got caught falsifying what a source wrote about Haller's Army here:.] (]) 02:03, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {{outdent}} What does that mean? Here is the text from the book and the name of the source: '''Nationalizing A Borderland: War, Ethnicity, And Anti-Jewish Violence In East Galicia, 1914-1920''' BTW, General ] was the commander of the ]. | |||
| *''General Jozef Haller's army - especially earned a reputation as notorious Jews baiters… The anti-Jewish zeal of those soldiers derived from the situation in the Poznan province, where Jews sided with the Germans during the Polish-German conflict of in the winter of 1919. | |||
| '' | |||
| You are starting to act like a jerk, to win your argument you keep accusing people of the worst things, so here is proof; that's the source I used to back up my claim. --] (]) 02:18, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :This conversation is occurring on Sandstein's talk page also. Here is the full text: "Two Polish units - Poznan regiments and General Josef Haller's army - especially earned the reputation as notorious Jew baiters and staged brutal pogroms in Sambor, the Lwow district, and Grodek Jagiellonski. The anti-Jewish zeal of those soldiers derived from the situation in the Poznan province, where Jews sided with the Germans during the Polish-German conflict of in the winter of 1919. '''Similarly, the actions of Haller's Army, which had arrived from France, might be explained by the fact that some contingents came from the United States, where Jewish-Polish relations went from bad to worse.'''" So there is one reason for Poznan regiment crimes (Polish-German conflict in Poznan) and a different reason for Haller army crimes (deteriorating Jewish-Polish relations in the USA). ] is falsely using the explanation for the Poznan regiment violence to excuse violence by Haller's Army. How many times can he continue to falsely claim what sources say?] (]) 03:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Just to add: a couple days ago ] wrote: " Also, I had a chance to read the "sourced" text on Google Books, and found that nowhere is Gibson called an anti-semite, or that he held a personal hostility towards jews." Diff: . He admits being this IP: . | |||
| :Here was from the source: Ideology, Politics, and Diplomacy in East Central Europe Mieczysław B. Biskupski, Piotr Stefan Wandycz | |||
| University Rochester Press, 2003 Direct quote from the book: "He stood out for his antisemitism even in an era when genteel disdain for things Jewish pervaded the clublike atmosphere of the foreign service. Upon their arrival in Warsaw, the Yankee diplomats found their prejudices confirmed by an almost physical repugnance towards the city's exotic Orthodox Jewry...to Gibson and his colleagues, the Jews represented antagonists and also a source of sport, and ridicule of Jewish traits, customs, and appearance became the favorite expression of camaderie within the legation." Page 67. The guy just flat-out lies about what is in sources. This should not be tolerated.] (]) 03:51, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::] stop demonizing people, in regards to Gibson; when doing a word search on Google Books that section did not come up because it did not include his name in that direct passage. Anyway, once you quoted the entire text I dropped the argument. Yet, you keep brining this up and framing the argument in the worst possible way to get me blocked. As a matter of fact in the text above you keep inserting Gibson's name in brackets like this example: '''''' --] (]) 04:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::His name comes up multiple times in that paragraph. Moreover the ref with page number was in the wikipedia article itself. You state that you "had a chance to read the "sourced" text on Google Books, and found that nowhere is Gibson called an anti-semite, or that he held a personal hostility towards jews." SO now you say you didn't read it after all? It is not "demonizing" to point out someone's dishonesty. So you got caught redhanded, and dropped it. ] (]) 06:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] == | |||
| Is there somewhere else in the article Comedian where the information in Etymology can be placed? You recently closed that can. I will not open it again by posting on the Talk page; leaving this in your very capable hands. Respectfully, ] (]) 06:15, 1 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :See by ] which adds a section called 'Etymology'. It is up to editor consensus whether this material belongs there; the RfC did not address that. All settled was whether to include 'comedienne' in the first sentence. Several commenters believed that 'comedienne' could be mentioned later in the article. ] (]) 13:54, 1 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == note == | |||
| After Qwyrxian said that I and he said ''I don't know about the other times this has happened to, so I can't comment on them'', so he is admittably saying he can't judge if I can edit Misplaced Pages or not. He also said ''a good portion of what you changed on ] was for the positive, so it seems like you can be a good contributor''. So no, it is a lie to say I was "in trouble" because nothing happened. There was a misunderstanding and it was taken to the talk page and resolved. --] (]) 20:49, 1 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == talk page move == | |||
| Hi, EdJohnston. Thank you for your moving ] to ]. Please also move ] to ]. Thanks! --] (]) 17:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Done. ] (]) 17:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you! --] (]) 17:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Close of ] move review == | |||
| EdJohnston, following the move review guidelines, I am first reaching out to you on your talk page to discuss your decision to close the review. I want to understand more about your decision. It seems objectionable that someone moved the article unilaterally from its longtime name: Anna Pou case to a completely unrelated name. It seems like an attempt to whitewash an important episode in American history. We cannot change the fact that these events occurred, even if they are uncomfortable to those involved. The fact that Dr. Pou was arrested and prosecuted and ultimately not indicted has led to legal changes in multiple states protecting doctors from prosecution in future disasters. She herself has become a passionate public speaker about her case. I don't quite understand your reasons for not allowing the name to be reverted to its longtime name, which was accurate. Let's try to find a solution that preserves history, not creating a revisionist and inaccurate one. Thank you] (]) 19:01, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :The ] policy should be kept in mind. There is a concern in calling something the 'Anna Pou Case' where it appears that a case with that name was never formally opened. You have just added as the article's Reference 2 (taken from a CBS News website) a PDF that is an apparent draft document which is not signed by any court official. The only named case mentioned on the talk page is "William Armington, M.D. vs. Sherri Fink, et al, Civil Action 09-6785, Eastern District of Louisiana." Even ] did not call it the Anna Pou case. In terms of the numerical vote, I found that the majority of opinions were against moving the article back to the ]. ] (]) 20:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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== Update regarding Topic-Ban Observance == | ||
| I once again momentarily forgot about my lede image ban and reverted a change to a picture I had uploaded as the lede image for ]. It literally occurred to me at the last moment before making said revert that what I was about to do might violate my topic ban. However, by the time it fully registered, the change had already been made. I have since reverted said change. While I am inclined to ask you to show leniency, I realize I asked you to dismiss a similar occurence around a month ago so I will leave it to your discretion regarding whether further sanctions are warranted. ] (]) 03:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Thanks for the cool , I'll voluntarily take it if it is what's going. I've been giving this too much time than I've actually got anyway. I just want Misplaced Pages to represent what I see around me regarding the place I've lived all my life. I've been rusty anyway, so I should be back more of a 'settled' way (I always remember the deeper levels of policy even if I unfortunately have broken some of the more top layer aspects of it at times - but I do forget some 'technical' stuff, and it all looks very different these days too). ] (]) 21:08, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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I once again momentarily forgot about my lede image ban and reverted a change to a picture I had uploaded as the lede image for Hideki Tojo. It literally occurred to me at the last moment before making said revert that what I was about to do might violate my topic ban. However, by the time it fully registered, the change had already been made. I have since reverted said change. While I am inclined to ask you to show leniency, I realize I asked you to dismiss a similar occurence around a month ago so I will leave it to your discretion regarding whether further sanctions are warranted. Emiya1980 (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)