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| Can you explain the rationale for removing Will Beback’s ability to edit his own talk page after he posted a ban appeal to his talk page? Using one's talk page to appeal a ban or block is not usually considered disruptive. Also, the policy page ] that you cited does not say that it is forbidden to appeal a ban publicly; it only says that “Appeals by blocked, banned, or similarly restricted users are usually conducted by email.” ] (]) 03:20, 7 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I'm entirely uninvolved, as far as I remember. (True, I have a poor memory for usernames.) I too have in my time, but I'm very surprised by this additional prohibition. I don't see anything in Will Beback's single post that's objectionable. True, ] says that somebody who's site-banned usually doesn't have access to their own talk page, but it also ] how banned editors may use their talk page, and I see nothing about Will Beback's message that violates this in letter or spirit. Please consider reversing yourself here. -- ] (]) 13:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for your messages. Will Beback posted a message which at first blush appeared to proclaim his innocence and reframe the appeal away from the central issue of whether he would be likely to commit the same offences if unbanned. I was concerned that this would turn community opinion even more sharply against him, and endanger the chances of his current ArbCom appeal being successful.<p>Separately from why Will should not wish for this message to be kept in the public record, there are several clear reasons why it is in any event impermissible: | |||
| *Will was never entitled to edit his talk page, because he is banned at the direction of ArbCom. We require appeals to be conducted by email; when the arbitration says "he may appeal his ban", committee procedures mean that appeal must be by email. When the banning policy explains ], it does not take into account the fact that Will is not entitled to a public hearing, as he was banned ''by'' the committee—and committee appeals are only heard by email. | |||
| *The banning policy ], so Will was not entitled to edit his talk page regardless of the merits of what he posted. | |||
| *When Doc James restored Will's submission (thereby, in any event, doing him a disservice in the appeal), he proxied for a banned editor. ] requires Doc James to {{xt|show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits}}. Will's submission does not pass that test. | |||
| I have therefore re-blanked the talk page. Given that policy clearly prohibits Will's submission being made to his talk page, it ''must'' not be restored.<p>I will indeed log the talk page revocation at the TimidGuy ban appeal log. As a footnote, talk page access is not routinely revoked simply as a courtesy to users banned by the Arbitration Committee. It is expected and required by policy that they not edit their talk page; exceptions cannot be made. ] ]] 09:46, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :If the committee is being courteous, why are banned editors blocked and tagged at all? <small>]</small> 18:49, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Interesting logic. It appears that you are not interested in the wider community seeing the appeal. Care to explain why? | |||
| ::With respect to ] the comments restored were productive also I am not editing at the direction of a banned editor. I am not sure how you can state they are not productive? Is no one allowed to look at arbcom rulings other than arbcom? ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Hello AGK, thank you for answering. However, you misunderstand the Misplaced Pages ] you've linked to with your remark "The banning policy means bans apply to all editing, good or bad, so Will was not entitled to edit his talk page regardless of the merits of what he posted." Concerning banned editors' access to their talk pages, the policy says {{quote|1= | |||
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| :: Sorry to butt in but I'm really puzzled by what you saying here, {{u|Rybec}}. He posted on his talk page on 4 March; his appeal had been sent in to ArbCom per normal by email some weeks before. The purpose of the 4 March post cannot therefore have been to appeal as one had already been filed and was well underway.<p>On the other issue, ARBPOL is accurate enough. We handle appeals from our own decisions as well as a very large number referred by the community and very occasionally appeals of Jimmy's actions. ArbCom appeals are always by email; community appeals are nearly always by email though we do occasionally arrange public soundings where community consensus in a ban discussion wasn't very clear. At some point, hopefully, the community will accept responsibly for their own appeals but there has been little or no enthusiasm for doing so thus far. ] <sup>]</sup> 05:19, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{ping|Roger Davies}}, As you know, I don't have access to the Arbitration Committee's e-mail. My only knowledge of what's transpired there comes from what is posted on Misplaced Pages. Before your comment, the only information I had about it was a remark by an IP editor who said "Will submitted his latest request somewhere in January. Now is the March, and he still got no response." The comment was later deleted and the IP address has been blocked. I can't tell from your remark whether the IP editor's comment is true, but if it is then Will Beback's posting of an unblocking request on his talk page seems reasonable. | |||
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| :::: It probably is somewhere though I can't guarantee it. But as it only affects the tiny number of people that ArbCom bans (typically one or two a year) it's scarcely critical. But that's not the issue here. The issue is that there was no need to post at all given the appeal had already been filed and was already being discussed by email. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, Arcticocean,
No, nope, nah, nyet, it's not going to work. Go back to your former name! You know us long-time editors don't adapt well to changes, especially small ones.
Any way, in case you have indeed transitioned to a new identity, I hope I'll run into you on this project in the future (in a positive way, I mean). Just spend some time working on some subject that brings a smile to your face. And stay away from noticeboards. Take care, Liz 06:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to change the target page for the redirect on User:Arcticocean. Liz 06:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, the archive bot had buried your message away. I've just restored it.
And stay away from noticeboards – was better advice ever given to a Misplaced Pages editor? :) arcticocean ■ 13:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Articocean. Have I asked you yet about whether or not you'd be interested in participating here? I see you blank your talk page regularly and I'm worried I'm missing my name in the history even though I checked. 😅 I really hope this isn't a duplicate request. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hey there! I just wanted to give you a shoutout for nominating this PROMO AUTOBIO for deletion. I’m surprised it’s been hanging around for about five years now and you definitely did the right thing by calling it out! Also, welcome back! I’m glad to see you’re active again and I hope you’ll stick around this time! Thanks for all your good work! — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome! It's nice to be contributing again. I have been part of the Misplaced Pages community for nearly 20 years, and after so long I was losing my enthusiasm. However, the break has done me some good. arcticocean 10:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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Hey. Is this actually your alt, or is someone messing around? Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah nevermind, I see you created it. Should have checked the logs first. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Better safe than sorry! arcticocean ■ 08:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! arcticocean ■ 17:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)