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== Name == == Aeroflot suspension ==


Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return
I think that this page should be renamed to the fuller "John F. Kennedy International Airport", since the airport is also well known under this name. ] 00:57, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)
] (]) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)


In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (] (]) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))
== Tragedy ==


:Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK ] (]) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
The word '''tragedy''' has been in the article since the first version. I strongly disagree with those who state that it is POV. Are we now required not to offend al-Qaeda supporters? ] 23:21, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)


::Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (] (]) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))
Its not necessary to call it a tragedy. Let the reader decide if September 11 was a tragedy or not. ] 23:32, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on ]. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. ] (]) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
==Why was this moved?==
Is there a reason "New York/" was added? That does not seem to be part of the official or common name. --] (]) 23:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:I have moved it back, after finding no evidence of a name change. --] (]) 00:06, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I was just about to do the same. That was exactly the right thing to do. ] 00:13, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


:I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. ] (]) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
There are three airports in the New York area and to avoid confusion with which one. Like O'Hare is Chicago O'Hare. ] 19:14, 7 Aug 2005 (UTC)
::Yep, but they don't do that in New York. ] 20:19, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


== Major robberies section ==
== The Christopher Elliot comment ==


Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. ] (]) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Does this deserve to be here? I did a Google search on him, and the results were weak, at best. ] 18:44, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

==Significant Presence==
I've removed the line that BA has a significant presence and someone has been restoring it. Being the leading non-US carrier out of Kennedy does not earn British Airways special mention. They have 8 flights a day to their hubs (7 to London, 1 to Manchester). American, United, and Air Canada each have 10-11 flights a day out of Heathrow and SAS has 20, so do they have a significant presence there? ] 22:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

==New York-JFK or New York-Kennedy??==
When listing the destinations of airlines that fly to this airport, what is the best designation for JFK? New York-JFK or New York-Kennedy? I think that the designation should be listed as "New York-JFK" because every single airport article on Wiki have "New York-JFK" as the designation for JFK Airport. What are your suggestions? ] 20:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:I'd go for New York-JFK, since I don't think people say "I'm flying from Kennedy to XXX" but rather "I'm flying from JFK to XXX". ] 21:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
::Okay, because I saw one user kept putting the designation "New York-Kennedy" instead of "New York-JFK" under the airport articles Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport and Austin Bergstrom International Airport but I have switched it back from "New York-Kennedy" to "New York-JFK". ] 22:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Kennedy or JFK are both acceptable according to Wiki:Airports Talk page. I would stick with Kennedy, though, since other cities with multiple airports don't use the codes. Such as Hobby, LaGuardia, O'Hare, Midway, Intercontinental, Dulles, etc., etc. ] 01:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
::I agree but I would recommend looking at all the airport articles and see that "New York-JFK" is used and not "New York-Kennedy". But you can feel free to change them all to Kennedy but I think it will look weird. ] 02:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

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Aeroflot suspension

Aeroflot service shouldnt be removed as their is no indication that service wont return DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

In agreement here, similar to COVID suspensions there’s nothing telling us the routes won’t come back when the Russian situation is resolved. I’d say just leaving the route with ‘suspended’ is fine (VenFlyer98 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC))

Russian Airplanes are banned from entering United States Airspace therefore Aeroflot cannot fly into JFK 108.50.206.142 (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Sure, they’re banned right now but there’s nothing telling us that the routes won’t come back eventually. No need to remove them when we can just list them as suspended. (VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC))

Safe to say any mentioned Aeroflot return now borders on WP:CRYSTALBALL. Sure they may 'come back' someday, but without a firm date due to the political/war situation out there, it's very much breaches CRYSTALBALL (and trumps any WikiProject Guideline/rules) at this point. Coastie43 (talk) 09:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree. This is clearly a situation where the return of service would require a significant change to come back any time soon. They're more than just suspended, they're banned. If the chart is supposed to represent the current routes at the airport, including routes that haven't flown for over a year and would require a major change in real-world geopolitical events to begin again doesn't fulfill that purpose. There's no reason for keeping them here without engaging in CRYSTALBALL speculation. oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Major robberies section

Like to propose adding that the robberies/ heists covered under this section inspired the 1990 film Goodfellas. 173.59.118.212 (talk) 20:46, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

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