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| ==Announcing my departure== | |||
| == Proposed deletion of Armenian Genocide/resources == | |||
| I have started contributing on February 17, 2005 and engaged in controversial and heated subjects from the beginning and contributed positivally I'd believe. After over a year of contribution, I have to conclude that no matter if you don't understand any policies or guidelines directly affecting the quality of the articles, you just have to be polite and all is OK. It doesn't matter if you don't understand what neutrality means, it doesn't matter if you wrongly still think that Misplaced Pages is supposed to represent the 'truth,' it doesn't matter if you don't understand that 'fact' in Misplaced Pages is about the correct representation of positions and should not to be mistaken as 'truth,' it doesn't matter if you don't understand that original research is unwelcome and that your opinion or interpretation of things or your concieved validity of an author has no place in the article. As long as you are polite you can do whatever you want and get away with it. | |||
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| I have wasted much of my time trying to debate with people who had one thing in mind, and is to enforce their position as not only position but as 'truth,' I have made 'sur place' peddling and backpeddling because of users ignoring the subject at hand and who'd become experts few minutes later with few google search while totally ignoring the scholarly publications about a topic. | |||
| A ] template has been added to the article ], suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process  because of the following concern: | |||
| :<b>Is linked from Talk: in archive box, but I assume someone was planning to make it but didn't. Shouldn't be cluttering up the archive box.</b> | |||
| All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's ], and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "]" and ]). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <code>{{tl|dated prod}}</code> notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on ]. | |||
| I have wasted my time voting in RfA's, when those I elect as a Wikipedian, once promoted will totally ignore the right of the users, those same users that have supported them. Once administrator, you can abuse your powers, those same powers which were given to you because of users like me, but you will get away with it, you just need me to get elected not after. You can restrict my right to contribute, my right to vote in polls, my right to vote in RfA, when even prisoners in various countries are given such rights. You can threat members of block, you can provoke them and then in retaliation against a provocation, act as the judge and the victim. Don't worry afteral, you are an Admin, and no Admin will question you, if a member request an unblock, just wait the block being expired and that's it, since no Admin will bother answering to an unblock request. If the member don't want to give up and place you in the Administrators notice board, it will be a matter of interpretation of policies, while most Admins won't even bother reading you. And those who realise the abuse, would prefer remaining silent and support you privatly but publically shutting down. You will be yet another member who is 'crying' and the abusive administrator will even recieve barnstars because he doesn't give away to 'trouble makers.' People will even tell him: ''If you have so many critics you must be doing something right.' | |||
| Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the ], the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the ] or it can be sent to ], where it may be deleted if ] to delete is reached.<!-- Template:PRODWarning --> ]<sup>]|]</sup> 19:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| When we are at a point that users in a heated discussion start reporting other users with whom they cronically disagree, and that such users are to be blamed for as much. We can't assume it is done in good faith are we? It would take rather an incompetent administrator who would randomnly warn honest users who will not report their fellow Wikipedians when they are equally to be blamed just because they disagree. | |||
| == fyi == | |||
| An incompetent Administrator is the one who is incapable of making any assesment on the value of his judgement, better yet, an administrator who has no judgement and who act randomnly and does not comprehend for what the tools that are given to him are actually given to him. An incompetent administrator is the one who can not and will not reconsider his jugement, rather lack of judgement. An incompetent administrator is the one who can not understand when his intervention is more disruptive than his silence. | |||
| See | |||
| I know such an administrator, his username is InShaneee. I have reported his abuses in the mailing list, no consideration, I have requested an unblock, no answer. Be wrong as a user, and no Admin will waste his time supporting an Admin who is in the right, but don't ever be in the right, because Admins will prefer remaining silent. | |||
| which placed ] on the Wikisource ] as a new text. I've completed the proofing and formatting of it. See ], too. Cheers, ] 11:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| :yea, I've seen... three interesting and juicy arbitration cases going on too, it's like watching a soccer match. ;) ] ] 02:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
| The whole affair was in my talk page, being ignored I have deleted it, doesn't matter, there are two type of people in Misplaced Pages the Users (Dalit) and the Admins. | |||
| I'm done | |||
| PS: Don't email me your support, I have enought of cowards, so I disabled it. | |||
| '''Unlike what I have said in the mailing list, I have been blocked for 72 hours not 36.''' | |||
| ==Update== | |||
| Just read what InShaneee had to say in the IRC chanel about his 'detractor,' quite amazing, that after he has abused his power without even bothering to apologize he decide to make up things on my back and people still wonder why various members who actually contribute in the process of writting encyclopedic articles (rather than chit-chating in chat chanels or making few edits on commics, pokemon or some pseudoscience or esoteric articles) leave the project. | |||
| For those who haven't actually seen the whole affair and will take for granted the message passed by InShanee on the IRC(for the satisfaction of the academia here(who represent a slight minority, and which number as it seems only decreases by day), I was not present on the IRC, I find chats plainly dumb, since I registered on Misplaced Pages for one sole reason, to write articles, this was brought to me by lets say a honest user). | |||
| Let just take a look at what he had to say: | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: is there any way to search the mailing list? I'm told I was brought up there recently. | |||
| < bishonen> InShaneee: I've never had any luck with searching it, i must admit. :-( | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: is there a listing of topics or anything? | |||
| * InShaneee is new at mailing lists. | |||
| < bishonen> oh, topics, yes. hang on. | |||
| < bishonen> InShaneee: you can sort by subject, thread, date or author. http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-June/thread.html#start | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: ah, thanks! | |||
| < bishonen> np. | |||
| < bishonen> i'm no good at postin to it, it's very mysterious. but i read the archive sometimes. | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: found it! :) | |||
| < bishonen> InShaneee: so was it interesting? | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: oh, '''he's just pissed that he can't call people racists without me blocking him. Luckily, it appears he got topic-jacked.''' :D {bold is mine} | |||
| < InShaneee> bishonen: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2006-June/049325.html | |||
| ... | |||
| < InShaneee> oh, my apologies to all concerned for one of my detractors starting a minor flamewar on the mailing list. | |||
| < InShaneee> I take responsibility. | |||
| I am striked on one thing. One of the things I have done here in Misplaced Pages long ago, was to subscribe to the mailing list. I thought that there, policies would be discussed and to keep myself updated I regularly was actually reading the debates going on there. But, InShaneee, an administrator while chating around is new at the mailing list, somewhere at least more than two lines could be written about Misplaced Pages (English Misplaced Pages, and the other, Misplaced Pages in general). But this is not the reason why I qualified that an update was in order, the reason is there: ''he's just pissed that he can't call people racists without me blocking him. Luckily, it appears he got topic-jacked.'' Isen't it enought that he abuses his power and block me for a provocation after warning me of blockage because of this edit I made, a provocation which resulted to a block of 24 hours; it isen't enought that he warned me again for an insignificant word and that he blocked me for 72 hours and claimed as reasons 'personal attacks and threats for more' (which BTW is wrong, as I have never lowered myself to make threats of any more of what he claims, which is against assume good faith policy but rather that I ignore '''him''' as I don't recognize his autority), but he even has the face to lie about me on my back and consider a fellow Wikipedian whom he abused as his 'detractor,' a Wikipedian that is actually here to write articles, the sort that without, Misplaced Pages could not survive. | |||
| For those that have bought InShaneee version, I have never as he claim been pissed because of him not permitting me to call people racist(I didn't knew that me calling anyone racist was even brought in connection in some way or another to the blocks). The reason why I was pissed of, and he knows it(either this, or he hasn't actually read my answers because they were longer than a typical chat format), was because he was ignoring for what the tools that were given to him were actually given to him. His warnings and threats for blocks for insignificant words which are used even in peer reviewed journals of reviews of works which we could say it is not rare that heated debates sometimes do happen. This is what another administrator had to say about the block. What this administrator didn't knew(other than his probable ignorance that I was that harsh with InShaneee because of a culmination of my anger from the other block which was as much unjustifiable) was that I was not blocked for 36 hours but rather 72, more than the block of 48 hours for people who actually vandalise articles or 3RR which directly affect the integrity of the articles. If we can really consider such an administrator does really understand why he has the power to block, we are pushing 'assume good faith' to the extrem. | |||
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fyi
See this edit which placed s:Martyred Armenia on the Wikisource main page as a new text. I've completed the proofing and formatting of it. See Fâ’iz El-Ghusein, too. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- yea, I've seen... three interesting and juicy arbitration cases going on too, it's like watching a soccer match. ;) Fad (ix) 02:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)