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:::Ok, I like the current situation a lot better, with *no* self-tests of any kind. You are wrong about me trying to reinstall the neanderthal theory. Apart from mentioning it without links in ] I haven't done much about it since the theory were deleted. I changed strategy and worked for less biased articles for a while instead. There is more to do about this, but I really don't have time to do it right now. --] 17:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | :::Ok, I like the current situation a lot better, with *no* self-tests of any kind. You are wrong about me trying to reinstall the neanderthal theory. Apart from mentioning it without links in ] I haven't done much about it since the theory were deleted. I changed strategy and worked for less biased articles for a while instead. There is more to do about this, but I really don't have time to do it right now. --] 17:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
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== Legal threats == | ||
''I suppose I could sue you for such insults.'' | |||
Please do not make legal threats. ] 00:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi Rdos. You seem to have a large essay on your user page which contains much text from an article that was deleted last year (]). See ] - whilst this is only a guideline, the essay linking people with autism to neanderthals and chimpanzees is an opinion piece not related to Misplaced Pages or other non-encyclopedic material. As it's not a policy, I won't remove it, but I would like to ask politely if you would. Thanks. ]<I><B>/</B>/<B>/</B></I><small>]</small> 11:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Changing name of WP:ANI == | |||
: I'd rather not, mostly because it is encyclopedic and should be an article and because you just deleted a new incarnation of the ] for no good reason. I had nothing to do with it's recreation this time, neither the last time. --] 12:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Please could you not keep changing the name of this section as it is misleading and becomes hard to find. ] 17:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Link assembly for future article on my website == | |||
::If it was encyclopaedic, it would be an article - as it was deleted, it's clearly not encyclopaedic. But I won't force you to remove it, I thought I'd just ask. I deleted a new incarnation of the ] because it was a recreation of deleted material. Go to ] if you disagree. ]<I><B>/</B>/<B>/</B></I><small>]</small> 12:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
moved to www.rdos.net/index.php/Wikipedia_abuse | |||
::I am going to ask as well. Please amend your user page so as not to include this material, which I believe you are aware is seen as offensive by a number of editors, so this is a civility issue. ] a soapbox or a Myspace. You are free to link to your own site, where you may include any text you yourself have written. ] 21:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
'''conversation deleted''' | |||
:::Yes, but ] a soapbox does not apply to userpages as far as I know and my page certainly is not "Myspace". I'm merely including material that should be part of wikipedias article space. Also, in the guidelines, it discourages material that is not aimed to be edited. I do endorse anybody to edit this part of my userpage. That's one of the reasons I include it here. If it wasn't for prejudice, lack of understanding and lack of a peer-rewied journal article, it would be part of article space. I'm sure there will be a peer-rewied article someday because I'm working on it. Until then, I prefer to keep the information here so interesting people can read it. It's also at my site's wiki <nowiki> </nowiki> in case mods delete it here. --] 06:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Causes of Asperger's == | |||
::::It's content deleted by consensus, you appear to be making a ] by including it on your userspace, and some editors find your theory offensive. Please remove it to some space you own. ] 07:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
If you have such a problem with that section, please discuss it on the talk page. --]] 21:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::I find many articles on Misplaced Pages offensive, and I just don't demand their deletion. For instance, I found the ] and ] article extremely offensive when I got here. Since then the situation has improved (mostly because I moved the offensive stuff to less visited articles). However, the offensive stuff is still in ] and ]. I don't demand it's deletion because I'm offended by it. --] 07:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I have, but it did no good. Sandy claims that anything that is "referenced" is immune to deletion. Clearly an outstanding claim. --] 21:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::What goes in a neutral and verifiable article is different from what goes on a user page. You admit that there is no published source to back your assertions, yet you treat them as having equal validity with peer-reviewed evidence which you find "offensive". This is simply not how it works. In user space you should be civil (i.e. not offensive); in article space you should be neutral and factual based on reliable sources. What you have on your user page is neither civil nor verifiably factual. ] 11:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Please refrain from removing content from Misplaced Pages, as you did to ]. It is considered ]. If you want to experiment, please use the ]. Thank you. <!-- Template:Test2a-n (Second level warning) --> ] 21:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I treat them with equal validity because the published theories of autism are inconsistent, narrow and basically useless. Publishing them in scientific journals doesn't automatically make them valid. The Neanderthal theory is backed up by Aspie-quiz to a large extent. While most studies on autism have groups of 10 to at most 100 participants, Aspie-quiz have more than 10,000 participants. Just because the results of Aspie-quiz haven't yet been published doesn't mean they are unreliable. Anybody can verify them as the source-code is open-source and the raw data can be requested from me. It is also possible to do independent validation. --] 14:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
: It is not vandalism. To bring a copy of NIHs biased opinion in this section of the article is vandalism. It has been moved to other articles, and WP policiies does not allow copies of content like that, especially when it is incredibly biased. --] 21:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::::How convenient for you. Now please remove the offensive content from your user page. ] 15:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::RDos, the NIH information is in the public domain, and it is specifically allowed. Your edits are vandalizing the article. ] 21:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::You seem to be a poor listener. I thought that was an Aspie-trait, but then maybe not. Anyway, I think this discussion isn't going anywhere and I have nothing more to add. --] 16:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Sandy, there were consensus to remove all this stuff, including the treatments and place them in separate articles. You are violating this consensus by putting back biased parts of it. --] 21:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::Interesting that the problem is always with someone else. You do not ] your user page, or any part of Misplaced Pages. You do not have the right to keep deleted content in user space (actually it's generally considered reprehensible), you do not have the right to use Misplaced Pages's resources to expound your unproven theories, and above all you do not have the right to cause gratuitous offence to other editors. If you do not like these restrictions you will find the door over there... ] 21:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::: In case you haven't worked it out by now, your opinion on the matter is not neutral. Take it to Talk. If you edit war, you may be blocked from editing. ] 21:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Try to put it into the other perspective for once. YOU don't own Misplaced Pages, and YOU don't have the right to freely delete other people's user pages or make edits to them. --] 06:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Mornin' RDos== | |||
::::::::::::This is true, and is why I took the question to ]. I do, on the other hand, have the right to prevent editors from insulting other editors. ] 06:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Ok, I am going to admit that your Neanderthal theory upset me in a personal way, and then the theory of attraction to young girls upset me in a worst one, they are such generalisations...and they don't come close to matching my life experience. | |||
:::::::::::::How convienent. The same editor that participated in the ] also recommened the deletion. I've reported this to ]. Your actions are clear abuse. --] 07:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
...and I probably took that out on you a bit... | |||
== Legal threats == | |||
''I suppose I could sue you for such insults.'' | |||
But, c'mon, don't let people needle and rile you out of making the valid contributions you have and are dying to make. | |||
Please do not make legal threats. ] 00:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
I REALLY want to see you give presenting the non-clinical paradigm, with peerless citations no-one can challenge (because if you don't someone will take that as an excuse to delete them) your very best shot...Please--] 22:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Page protection of my user page == | |||
: I don't know if I'm the best person to do this. I currently see as my main task to provide references and to challenge POV in the clinical part of the article. I'm more concerned with POV in the clinical part because that is eventually what most people will believe about AS. Even if this is refuted in the non-clinical part, most people will still believe the "doctor is right". AS for the Neanderthal theory, I think you may misunderstand it. The most common misunderstanding is connected with the negative view of what Neanderthals were (dumb brutes, you know). It is more productive to project every autistic trait onto Neanderthals and think of them as looking just like us. --] 11:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
] have deleted content and then protected my user page. He has in this process violated several Misplaced Pages policies: | |||
::The Neanderthal theory just doesn't match my life experience, also, me, and logic, would go for the notion of an ADVANCING evolutionary mutation, testing it's survival potential, rather than a retrogressive one? Too technically minded for retrogression for one thing, and at least half the Aspies I know are very slight and skinny! | |||
* Do not protect a page you are involved in an edit dispute over (page protection policy) | |||
* He haven't added it to ] and given a rationale for the protection | |||
* He haven't provided any proof that it violates any rules in ] policy | |||
* The talk page does not contain complaints against the Neanderthal theory from autistic users. | |||
* Most major autism sites offer a link to the Neanderthal theory, and thus it could not be considered offensive to autistic editors | |||
* The material about the Neanderthal theory is not a copy of the theory itself, but only offers a small summary of it. | |||
* The Neanderthal theory summary clearly is describing the main interest of the user, and thus is suitable for inclusion on the user page | |||
--] 08:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::No matter, take a look at "Talk" I found some quotes today that SUGGEST Hans Asperger himself was more in favor of "neurodiversity" than disorder or disease, admittedly that could have been influenced somewhat by a subjective desire to keep his little guys (of whom it seems he was very fond, funny how English accounts don't show that?) alive under the Nazis but still? | |||
:I'm not involved in an edit dispute, I asked you in my capacity as an admin to remove offensive and previously deleted content - you refused, so I did it. You reverted, so I locked the article. The list of protected articles is maintained by a bot these days. As soon as you undertake not to keep reposting your unverifiable and offensive theory, your user page will be unlocked. ] a soapbox, or indeed your playground. ] 08:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Me and babelfish will do our best at discovering what he really said...A LOT hangs on whether he used the word "unterscheidlich" (different or "at variation") easily translated as the slightly different "abnormal", and if he DID say "unterscheidlich" then the quote in "History" will be amended accordingly. | |||
::Wrong, you are involved in an edit dispute since your aim is to ensure that my user page should be free of content that I want to include on it. Your role as an admin has nothing to do with this. It is your personal feelings about the Neanderthal theory (as can clearly be seen in the above comments) that is guiding your behavior and not your role as an admin. Your admin priviledges merely makes it possible for you to ensure that your version of *my* user page stands. --] 08:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::You keep putting in any text you feel is relevant that you can cite, so far you have made good additions and removals, and bear in mind that in these days of rapid advances, in real terms, NOBODY takes anything medical without a large pinch of salt. --] 12:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::A second opinion: I saw this on ] and just reviewed the deleted edits. I am in agreement that the content is inappropriate for a user page. It clearly constitutes soapboxing, and it will not be unprotected until you stop the same -- ] <small>]</small> 08:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Neanderthal theory == | |||
::::I cannot see how any of the deleted content could be a soapbox. Have you read what constitutes a soapbox? --] 08:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::Don't patronize me. The page is inappropriate. Bring it up at ] if you have further issues -- ] <small>]</small> 09:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Sorry for being very late, but some time ago, I chose to post your article in my ]. I also have been making cleanup edits to your "rdoswiki" as well, and then copying it to my subpage. As of now, the two articles are in complete synchronization. I'm curious as to what you think. --] 22:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
At least ] have listed his vandalism at ] now. He seems to make some progress in adhering to Misplaced Pages policies. --] 10:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Any time you want to stop digging is fine, the hole you're standing in is quite deep enough. "Fuck process", as we say in the ]. ] 11:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
: I have noticed the copy, but keep silent about it. As you might now certain people here do everything to censur peoples usespages. BTW, do you know anything about the last recreation & deletion of the theory in article-space? I can't seem to find the deletion log. I will do new attempts to publish Aspie-quiz (and the Neanderthal theory), but until then it is probably useless to recreate it in article-space. Unless it becomes published in some large newspaper, which would also make it notable. --] 11:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Well, do you admins at ] have your own set of Misplaced Pages rules/policies? Would be úseful to know the next time I meet a specimen from over there. --] 15:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
]. One link to a is not quite sufficient. "It has been proposed" - proposed by whom and where? For all we know the guy is recycling the Misplaced Pages article or the same on a clone. Did you see "below are some examples of ideas that are not generally accepted by palaeontologists but that do occasionally circulate". You must take the article to ]. -- ] 08:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Page protection == | |||
: It should not be taken to ]. If you or somebody else want to delete it again, do it in the usual process and not as a speedy delete. --] 08:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I saw your complaint at ] and came to check out the situation. I have removed the previously deleted content from your user talk page and protected it. Misplaced Pages is not your soapbox. Please let me know when you are ready to use your talk page without reposting material that has been properly deleted and I will unprotect it. ] 11:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
I think that ] showing four AfDs '''and''' a deletion review, gives me a firm mandate for speedy deletion. -- ] 08:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
This is a warning ... please desist your disruptive activities at ] and ]. It's clearly been explained why your proposed content is not allowed, and any further negative comments against other users will make you eligible for a bit of enforced cooling down time. Since this page is currently locked, please respond at my talk page. --] 16:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
: No, because those AfDs are recent speedy-deletions. The last discussion about the article is more than a year old. Given the new material, which incidently is not a Misplaced Pages clone, a new discussion should be held. --] 08:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Request for participation == | ||
As a member of Wiki Aspergians, I hope you'll comment on the Asperger's FARC. I am voting to de-list, as I believe the article has taken a drastic POV shift toward pure pathology and away from the dual nature - talent+disability - articulated by the leading RS's of the field. I hope you'll vote whether you agree or not with my assessment : | |||
I have unprotected this page. If you repost the deleted material here, or anywhere else on Misplaced Pages, I will block you for disruption. Consider this your final warning. ] 20:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review#Asperger_FARC_commentary <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: Sigh. Can these admins never do what they are asked to do? (see ]) --] 20:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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In view of your contributions to the ] article, would you please comment at ] (if you have not already done so). I'm looking to close that AfD, but it seems to need more comment. Thanks. -- ]]/] 17:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Survey request == | |||
::Kind of depends who asks them and how. ] 20:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
Hi,<br /> | |||
:::JzG: why was it necessary to delink his website? ] 21:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Misplaced Pages. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles. <br /> <br /> | |||
Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, ]. Survey questions can be found at ]. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected! <br /><br />The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.<br /> | |||
Thank You, | |||
::::I found things like this . I know of not articles at this stage for which it can be a reliable source. ] 08:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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:::::My site cannot be held responsible for some Misplaced Pages-users linking to it. It contains a wide range of information and is not restricted to the neanderthal theory. You are clearliy using a spam-protection policy for what it was not meant to be user for. --] 15:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::There are no articles for which it could act as a reliable source. I have removed it from multiple articles in multiple projects, some of no relevance whatsoever to the content. When a situation arises where this would be a relevant link (and that does '''not''' include talk pages) then we can revisit the issue. ] 21:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Citing sources you have authored yourself == | |||
== Changing name of WP:ANI == | |||
Please could you not keep changing the name of this section as it is misleading and becomes hard to find. ] 17:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Silly rdos.net protection policy == | |||
So, ] and his admin admirers thinks that somebody besides site-owner (which is me) should request the unlisting of the site from the spam-filter. This is really comic when it was inserted on the Kurdish people article by somebody else and the ] was reintroduced by other users. But I guess the abusive admins will get their way, as usually, so I suggest people conming here to request the unlisting. Unlisting is done here (not at all obvious how to get there): --] 06:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Woot! ]! The Evil Admin Cabal strikes again! ] 08:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::You know what? I'm gonna change tactic now. It is obvious that you are some kind of leader on Misplaced Pages, and that nobody dares to oppose your actions. However, there are places where you have no saying on content, for instance my website, and I think I'll create a Misplaced Pages-inside information article there about how Misplaced Pages operates and put some links to the history of the Neanderthal theory on Misplaced Pages, how policies are interpreted based on what people (admins) want to achieve and so on. As you might now, my web-site has high rankings on various search-engines. Hope you will enjoy! --] 09:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::OMG TEH CABAL 0H NOS --]] 10:05, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Link assembly for future article on my website == | |||
Hi Leif, I see that you have been attempting to base content on an article you have authored, ''Autism, Personality, and Human Diversity Defining Neurodiversity in an Iterative Process Using Aspie Quiz''. In case you weren't aware, it's often problematic to cite sources you have authored, and in particular it is difficult to remain objective and impartial about your own work. Generally it's not a good idea to add content based on sources you have authored. Your best approach would be to put a note on the article Talk pages with suggested content and pointing to the source, and then let other editors evaluate the content and the source for inclusion. The applicable Misplaced Pages guideline can be found at the ] section about ]. Thanks... <code>]]</code> 16:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
First AfD of article (was a keep): | |||
: That's what I did, but it appears that the medical neurodiversity "advocates" have already scared-off everybody that would have taken the opportunity to do just that. Seems to be a successful tactic of turning neurodiversity into a disease ] (]) 08:30, 10 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Invitation: WikiProject Autism == | |||
Second AfD of article (was a delete): | |||
Greetings! Since I found your name on the ], I figured you might be interested in the recently created ]. ] (]) 21:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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:If you want me to start deleting this crap from the article histories, you are going the right way about it. You have been told, repeatedly, that you may not use this page, or any other Misplaced Pages article, to promote your theory. You have been told why not. You have been warned tat if you continue your efforts to do so you will be blocked from editing. It really could not be any clearer than this! Just drop it, now. ] 19:55, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Rdos
I was banned from AFF. will come and join my forum at http://autisticsociety.info/smf/index.php
I was thinking of having a section called "The origins of Autism" and one of the topics would be your neanderthal theory.
Please do not remove tags placed in good faith.
Please stop removing Articles for deletion notices or comments from articles and Articles for deletion pages as it is considered vandalism. You may comment at the respective page if you oppose its deletion. Thanks.
brenneman 04:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
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Engineering Wiki is a wiki entirely dedicated to collecting information about Engineering. The Engineering Wiki is in early development stages at the moment. We invite you to help devlope this wiki.
Aspies' attractions to the Opposite Sex
: It wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. I've heard many describe slower maturation in Aspies, perhaps not being fully mature until their mid-30s. It would be a logical consequence of this slower maturation if males also were attracted to much younger girls. Besides, it is a general feature of all males to favor young girls. This is explained by evolutionary theory. --Rdos 18:44, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- You sound like a great guy to talk to about this. I cannot explain my unique issues here because this talk page is public (as is pretty much anywhere on WP) and I wouldn't want my reputation to be ruined, so would you care to email me at shultz (at) ksu.edu? --Shultz 08:13, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- They're pedophiles? Skinnyweed 21:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
The Neadethal theory link removal
I thought it would be better if I talked to you about this in private.I also have AS.:)
I will explain why I removed it not because it's not ture(I'am keeping an open mind about this theroy).But it seems like that people view of Neathderthals are these agressive,dim-witted brutes , beast-like,warroir's.I didn't want people to have a negtive view about us.I think it should be put back in when without autism people are more aware of autism and people know the facts about the Neandethals.It should also be reviewed by some paleoanthropologists just to make sure if there needs any corrections.
Sorry for the trouble.
--Scott3 04:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Why so few Wikipedians are engineers?
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If you would rather not respond at all, that's fine also. Regards, - mbeychok 04:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- I have a MSc degree in Electrical engineering. I graduated 1987. I participate on Misplaced Pages to improve the quality and reduce speculations on the autism-related articles. --Rdos 08:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Category:Aspergian Wikipedians
Category:Aspergian Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. The is also a proposal to create an association to meet the needs of users with mental health conditions. --Salix alba (talk) 18:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but please stop linking to your own site
Thanks for helping clean up the autism articles, but please don't link to your own site! You've been asked this several times, including deleted articles and on Neanderthal etc. etc. - and please don't accuse me of "bias" for removing it - someone else already said "sorry, promoting your web site is not a "point of view"" - if you REALLY want to please suggest it on the talk page - if people come to a consensus they will put in. Personally, I'd think it would be better if you would just forgot about it for now and continue to help clean up the articles :). You never know, someone might decide one day that it is quite worthy :).
Thanks again :)!
- Ryan, you obviously haven't noted that the other articles about asperger's tests were also added by site owners. Why don't you remove them as well? --Rdos 08:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- You are seeing enemies where there are none :) - if I havn't removed it, it is simply because I havn't figured it out yet and havn't had time to look into :). If something was added by a site owner, they havn't discussed it, and you don't think it is worthy, you should be ok to remove it :). RN 08:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- You see, that is the problem. You have been hostile to the Aspie-quiz for a long time, and thats why you removed it but didn't care to check up on the other tests that site-owners added. I don't think I should be the one that removes the Geek-test, because I think self-identification should be part of the article and you don't. I also happen to like AFF and I don't want to start a fight over it. It would have been far better if the self-identification article had been retained instead --Rdos 08:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- First off, please assume good faith - the only reason why yours is targeted quickly is because you've persistantly tried it for months here at seemingly any chance you get, not just your test site by your one on neanderthals etc.. This has nothing to do with "self-identification" - the article you made was, in addition to being totally unencyclopedic, basically a self-promotion vehicle for your own site, which is a blatent violation of WP:NOT (see the part where it says that wikipedia is not a soapbox). PLEASE stop looking for enemies around every corner, it is not condusive at all to conversation. I'm hoping one day I can work with you rather than against you with these silly skirmishes :). RN 16:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, I like the current situation a lot better, with *no* self-tests of any kind. You are wrong about me trying to reinstall the neanderthal theory. Apart from mentioning it without links in Causes of autism I haven't done much about it since the theory were deleted. I changed strategy and worked for less biased articles for a while instead. There is more to do about this, but I really don't have time to do it right now. --Rdos 17:42, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Legal threats
I suppose I could sue you for such insults.
Please do not make legal threats. Skinnyweed 00:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Changing name of WP:ANI
Please could you not keep changing the name of this section as it is misleading and becomes hard to find. Skinnyweed 17:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Link assembly for future article on my website
moved to www.rdos.net/index.php/Wikipedia_abuse
conversation deleted
Causes of Asperger's
If you have such a problem with that section, please discuss it on the talk page. --Dubhagan 21:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have, but it did no good. Sandy claims that anything that is "referenced" is immune to deletion. Clearly an outstanding claim. --Rdos 21:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from removing content from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Asperger syndrome. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Sandy 21:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- It is not vandalism. To bring a copy of NIHs biased opinion in this section of the article is vandalism. It has been moved to other articles, and WP policiies does not allow copies of content like that, especially when it is incredibly biased. --Rdos 21:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- RDos, the NIH information is in the public domain, and it is specifically allowed. Your edits are vandalizing the article. Sandy 21:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sandy, there were consensus to remove all this stuff, including the treatments and place them in separate articles. You are violating this consensus by putting back biased parts of it. --Rdos 21:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- In case you haven't worked it out by now, your opinion on the matter is not neutral. Take it to Talk. If you edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Just zis Guy you know? 21:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Mornin' RDos
Ok, I am going to admit that your Neanderthal theory upset me in a personal way, and then the theory of attraction to young girls upset me in a worst one, they are such generalisations...and they don't come close to matching my life experience.
...and I probably took that out on you a bit...
But, c'mon, don't let people needle and rile you out of making the valid contributions you have and are dying to make.
I REALLY want to see you give presenting the non-clinical paradigm, with peerless citations no-one can challenge (because if you don't someone will take that as an excuse to delete them) your very best shot...Please--Zeraeph 22:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know if I'm the best person to do this. I currently see as my main task to provide references and to challenge POV in the clinical part of the article. I'm more concerned with POV in the clinical part because that is eventually what most people will believe about AS. Even if this is refuted in the non-clinical part, most people will still believe the "doctor is right". AS for the Neanderthal theory, I think you may misunderstand it. The most common misunderstanding is connected with the negative view of what Neanderthals were (dumb brutes, you know). It is more productive to project every autistic trait onto Neanderthals and think of them as looking just like us. --Rdos 11:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- The Neanderthal theory just doesn't match my life experience, also, me, and logic, would go for the notion of an ADVANCING evolutionary mutation, testing it's survival potential, rather than a retrogressive one? Too technically minded for retrogression for one thing, and at least half the Aspies I know are very slight and skinny!
- No matter, take a look at "Talk" I found some quotes today that SUGGEST Hans Asperger himself was more in favor of "neurodiversity" than disorder or disease, admittedly that could have been influenced somewhat by a subjective desire to keep his little guys (of whom it seems he was very fond, funny how English accounts don't show that?) alive under the Nazis but still?
- Me and babelfish will do our best at discovering what he really said...A LOT hangs on whether he used the word "unterscheidlich" (different or "at variation") easily translated as the slightly different "abnormal", and if he DID say "unterscheidlich" then the quote in "History" will be amended accordingly.
- You keep putting in any text you feel is relevant that you can cite, so far you have made good additions and removals, and bear in mind that in these days of rapid advances, in real terms, NOBODY takes anything medical without a large pinch of salt. --Zeraeph 12:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Neanderthal theory
Sorry for being very late, but some time ago, I chose to post your article in my user subpage. I also have been making cleanup edits to your "rdoswiki" as well, and then copying it to my subpage. As of now, the two articles are in complete synchronization. I'm curious as to what you think. --Zenosaga 22:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have noticed the copy, but keep silent about it. As you might now certain people here do everything to censur peoples usespages. BTW, do you know anything about the last recreation & deletion of the theory in article-space? I can't seem to find the deletion log. I will do new attempts to publish Aspie-quiz (and the Neanderthal theory), but until then it is probably useless to recreate it in article-space. Unless it becomes published in some large newspaper, which would also make it notable. --Rdos 11:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Neanderthal theory of autism. One link to a BBC article is not quite sufficient. "It has been proposed" - proposed by whom and where? For all we know the guy is recycling the Misplaced Pages article or the same on a clone. Did you see "below are some examples of ideas that are not generally accepted by palaeontologists but that do occasionally circulate". You must take the article to WP:DRV. -- RHaworth 08:00, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- It should not be taken to WP:DRV. If you or somebody else want to delete it again, do it in the usual process and not as a speedy delete. --Rdos 08:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that special:whatlinkshere/Neanderthal theory of autism showing four AfDs and a deletion review, gives me a firm mandate for speedy deletion. -- RHaworth 08:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- No, because those AfDs are recent speedy-deletions. The last discussion about the article is more than a year old. Given the new material, which incidently is not a Misplaced Pages clone, a new discussion should be held. --Rdos 08:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Request for participation
As a member of Wiki Aspergians, I hope you'll comment on the Asperger's FARC. I am voting to de-list, as I believe the article has taken a drastic POV shift toward pure pathology and away from the dual nature - talent+disability - articulated by the leading RS's of the field. I hope you'll vote whether you agree or not with my assessment :
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review#Asperger_FARC_commentary —Preceding unsigned comment added by CeilingCrash (talk • contribs) 19:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
AfD for Controversies about functioning labels in the autism spectrum.
In view of your contributions to the Asperger syndrome article, would you please comment at this AfD (if you have not already done so). I'm looking to close that AfD, but it seems to need more comment. Thanks. -- Jreferee T/C 17:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Survey request
Hi,
I need your help. I am working on a research project at Boston College, studying creation of medical information on Misplaced Pages. You are being contacted, because you have been identified as an important contributor to one or more articles.
Would you will be willing to answer a few questions about your experience? We've done considerable background research, but we would also like to gather the insight of the actual editors. Details about the project can be found at the user page of the project leader, geraldckane. Survey questions can be found at geraldckane/medsurvey. Your privacy and confidentiality will be strictly protected!
The questions should only take a few minutes. I hope you will be willing to complete the survey, as we do value your insight. Please do not hesitate to contact me or Professor Kane if you have any questions.
Thank You, Sam4bc (talk) 23:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Nomination of Aspie Quiz for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aspie Quiz is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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02:13, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Citing sources you have authored yourself
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16:10, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- That's what I did, but it appears that the medical neurodiversity "advocates" have already scared-off everybody that would have taken the opportunity to do just that. Seems to be a successful tactic of turning neurodiversity into a disease Rdos (talk) 08:30, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
Invitation: WikiProject Autism
Greetings! Since I found your name on the Notice board for autism-related topics, I figured you might be interested in the recently created WikiProject Autism. Muffinator (talk) 21:49, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
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