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List of Rectify episodes

Hi Rswallis10, sorry for the little scuffle at the Bones article. I wanted to leave a message on your talk page regarding List of Rectify episodes, so it also doesn't turn into a little edit war. You reverted the reference back to Showbuzz Daily. This is unnecessary. I originally added the ratings ref for episode 2, so there's no reason to change it to a different website, just because it's your preference. Saying, "showbuzzdaily is the standard for shows that don't make tvbtn" is not really true or is it an acceptable reason; any reliable source can be used. I switched the reference for episode 1 because the original source didn't support it (I'm assuming it was removed when the list was updated?), and using an archived version is a bit silly, when there's a perfectly acceptable alternate reference in place. Thank you and I hope you understand my reasoning. Drovethrughosts (talk) 20:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Drovethrughosts: Yeah that actually does make sense, as your source for the first episode is much better. I'm not familiar with "Headline Planet" and how often they publish ratings articles, so I never go there. I'm in the habit of checking ShowBuzzDaily every day, and I have a good rapport with the writers (who respond to many of my ratings requests), so I use them to cite many of the daily ratings I add each day to Misplaced Pages. Going forward, do you want to continue using "Headline Planet" as the primary "Rectify" ratings source (for consistency), or switch over to ShowBuzzDaily for the remaining episodes? It really doesn't matter either way to me, as I'm not heavily invested in "Rectify", so you do whatever you see fit, and I won't get in the way. Thank you for coming here so cordially, I too apologize for how I handled myself yesterday. Rswallis10 (talk) 01:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I would prefer to use Headline Planet for the ratings for Rectify (for consistency) as it's one of the shows that website specifically posts ratings. Thanks. Keep up the good work. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:46, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

List of Jessie episodes

I completely understand where you're coming from with this edit but be aware that we've had issues with Disney episode counts in the past. Hannah Montana and The Suite Life on Deck are two examples that I remember where Disney's final count didn't match the number of episodes that we have listed or that aired. Disney announced something like 102 episodes for Hannah Montana, but we clearly only have 98 listed. Going back through the Disney press releases didn't help, that came up with a different count again. It's quite possible that when the Jessie is finished, the final season count may not match the number advertised. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:27, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@AussieLegend: I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the two previous situations you brought up (Hannah & Suite). I am personally quite against people quoting WP:SYNTH when common sense dictates, but in this case you are correct. Had I been aware of the historical discrepencies, I never would have made the edit. I appreciate you coming to me and explaining yourself; i will not be a bother on that page anymore. Rswallis10 (talk) 04:01, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

possibles reason for discrepancies in count

• controversial subjects may be pulled
  -this happens also when a shows story line turns out to eerily come true (most reciently, last year I think a drama pulled an episode filmed months before but not yet aired when a mass murder happened almost the same way)
• conflict in rights --- so many ppl involved a conflict can come up
• theoretically an episode commissioned ended up scraped (don't know of any but ...)
• more likely but again in theory, attempting to quash a "Partridge drummer"
  not sure what one would call it but like the boy drumming for the partridge family became a diva so he was replaced (I didn't notice until 20 years later read article about "two Darrin's and other TV character replacements")

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Street dogs in Sofia

I created a similar article to Street dogs in Moscow, Street dogs in Bucharest etc., there are several such, they are the same subject, maybe you should either nominate or not nominate all these if they are the same.--Serdik (talk) 23:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Serdik: My nomination for deletion is just a suggestion for the administrators. New pages are created literally every single minute, and I patrol these pages quickly in order to keep up with the demand. I wasn't aware of these other pages, and I probably made a mistake, it does happen. I just went to the page and removed the speedy deletion request. I also added a couple notes on the page to keep in mind when you are editing it. Thank you for coming to my page and explaining yourself. Rswallis10 (talk) 23:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, regards--Serdik (talk) 23:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

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Your recent post at Teahouse

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Splitting articles

When splitting articles, please note that you are required to properly attribute content that you have moved from one article to another in both articles. more information on this may be found in WP:CWW. Both Scorpion (TV series) and List of Scorpion episodes require attribution or the split will have to be reversed. Note also that when creating tables, like the one at Scorpion (TV series)#Ratings, accessibility issues have to be addressed. How to do this is explained at MOS:DTT. Please note that the ratings table currently also violates MOS:BOLD and MOS:HASH and this needs to be corrected. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@AussieLegend: I really don't know exactly what you want me to do. I didn't create the ratings table, I just simply moved it temporarily until a new article is made. The same exact thing was done with Empire without any problems. I will reword the phrases that were taken off of the Scorpion page to fix the attribution problem. Rswallis10 (talk) 20:16, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

The issues of attribution and what to do to carry it over are addressed at WP:PROSPLIT. You have to follow that procedure whenever you copy chunks of text from one article to another. Even tho Misplaced Pages is distributed under a free use license, it does still bear a copyright (more accurately, copyleft) and the one requirement of it is attribution. You can fix this by making a "null edit" (inserting a space somewhere is the most common way to make a null edit) and copying the diff link of the actual change and the attribution link as the edit summary for the null edit. John from Idegon (talk) 21:02, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@John from Idegon: Could you please explain what the "diff link of the actual change" and the "attribution link" are please? I'm all for making the best possible edits, I'm just not sure what you mean. Thank you Rswallis10 (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

There are templates that you can use on the talk pages of the articles to provide attribution, {{split from}} and {{split to}} are the ones I most commonly use. For examples of use, see Talk:List of New Girl episodes, Talk:New Girl (season 4) (and related season articles). --AussieLegend (✉) 21:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

And the diff is the actual URL for the change in the history where you moved the content. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3ARswallis10&type=revision&diff=672784662&oldid=672778862 is the dif for my first edit in this thread that started "The issues of attribution..." . You find the diff by going to the history of the page. John from Idegon (talk) 21:16, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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List of Scorpion episodes

It's probably best to propose a split (you can add {{split}} to the main article page) and discuss this to get consensus for a split. Personally, I'd prefer to wait until a season 2 episode table can be created. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Redirects

Hi Rswallis10, I noticed you recently created several redirects for seasons of television shows that do not exist yet. For example, you created both Better Call Saul (season 3) and Better Call Saul (season 4) when the show hasn't been renewed beyond season 2, among several others. I suggest waiting until the series is actually renewed for such seasons before doing something like that. Thanks. Drovethrughosts (talk) 23:11, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

@Drovethrughosts: Sorry, didn't know that was the system. Should I request deletion? Rswallis10 (talk) 00:32, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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March 2016

Please stop continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Bones (season 11), without resolving the problem that the template refers to. This may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. AussieLegend (✉) 01:59, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

@AussieLegend: Please link me to that discussion. Any editor who found them unreliable must've been ill-informed. If we're talking about the same discussion, then I remember that their were also editors who thought they were reliable source. You can't have everything YOUR way. Thats not how this works. Do we need to have another discussion because we were nowhere close to reaching a consensus. Rswallis10 (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

There is a link to the discussion on the article's talk page. Your edit summary at Bones (season 11) says Unreliablility is based on the opinion of the 1 editor who put them there. Source is a known Nielsen ratings expert. That is incorrect. SMcCandlish raised questions about the sources and even darkfrog24 had some issues. You were given the option of starting an RfC, but did not. Use of maintenance templates in articles is appropriate, as was explained at Talk:List of Better Call Saul episodes by Geraldo Perez. Once a claim or source is challenged you really only have two options, provide a better source or prove that the existing source is reliable. You can't simply remove the template. This should have been clear from List of Better Call Saul episodes. The burden to prove the sources are reliable is yours, not mine, since you were the one who added them. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:33, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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NCIS Season 15 has already started. Why is it still being redirected? 108.162.156.10 (talk) 01:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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@Jclemens: Thank you for the nice comment, I appreciate it. This has just happened too many times to me since I've been here that it's just frustrating. I try to add something new or change something up and it's reverted due to "precedence", so then I try to stay the course and follow the norm (doesn't get much simpler than creating an episode list article), and that's reverted because now some people want to change precedence. So I can't win. It's whatever though at this point - I'll let them figure it out and do what mainly do anyway here and fill in gaps in the Nielsen ratings. Best, Rswallis10 (talk) 03:48, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) It's funny because I'm actually in the middle of a discussion arguing against editors who don't want to include Nielsen ratings... -- Alex 04:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@AlexTheWhovian: I appreciate you fighting the good fight. If you can link me to that discussion, I'd be more than happy to contribute my thoughts. Because that's literally all that I do. Rswallis10 (talk) 04:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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