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			Hey. Welcome to my talk page. It's a place where you can leave me messages. Please do not leave templates unless it is absolutely necessary. See also the essay ]. I am a lady, so please do use female pronouns, but I won't fault you for not doing so accidentally. (I can be a bit masculine sometimes!) But anywho, don't hesitate to give me some critiques, invoke some discussion, or anything like it! Thanks.

			== New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022 ==
	Hey. Welcome to my talk page. It's a place where you can leave me messages and templates, though I prefer that you tell me what I did in your own words, it's not required. (Especially since templates can be so specific.) Anywho, don't hesitate to give me some critiques, invoke some discussion, or anything like it! Thanks.

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			Hello {{BASEPAGENAME}},

			;Backlog status
	== A page you started (Hashtag activism) has been reviewed! ==
			At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new ] on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000{{efn\|not including another ~6,000 redirects}} at the end of May.

			Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.{{efn\|The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.}}
	Thanks for creating ], Tutelary!

			In the last 30 days, ] have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
	Misplaced Pages editor ] just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

			While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
	<blockquote>Im Watching You 8P</blockquote>

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	== That Natalia article ==
			There is a new template available, {{txl\|NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
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			There has been significant discussion at ] recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
	Don't get too upset over it. All sorts of things have happened over there within the past month or so, and frankly I'm already tired of it. It appears that there's a group of editors who are extremely opposed to anything related to the internet following on that page because they find it personally displeasureable, and there's not much that can be done over it. Don't expect these fellas to even consider stepping back an inch, they accept zero compromise and expect things to only be done their way. --]<sub>]•]•]</sub> 19:39, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

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	== Help Me ==
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	Is there an official process by which afds can be reassessed for consensus? There is one where I feel needs it. The vast majority of the individuals !voted to keep, but it was deleted. ] (]) 22:49, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
	:] is what you want --] ] 22:52, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

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	== Kriss Sheridan ==
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	This page should not be speedily deleted because... the artist has developed his career since the last deletion. he has two successful singles on the music market, he attained popularity in social media, he has over 100.000 facebook fans, and almost 1 million views on Youtube. his entire album is coming soon. isn't it enough? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:{{ping\|Natalia90}}, could you link to the 'two successful singles' part? That may be an outstanding factor even in the afd, so that it would not qualify. ] (]) 00:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

	:{{ping\|Tutelary}} Do you mean this ironic now? What is afd?
	::{{ping\|Natalia90}}, the link to his singles getting attention. If present in a ], may establish new notability other than what was argued in the afd. Afd stands for ], which is the formal process by which articles are assessed to be deleted. ] (]) 01:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
	*I've moved this from the article's talk page since this was already here. Basically, I can't see where the two singles gained any sort of coverage in the slightest. Fan followings on social media sites such as facebook and YT views don't really count towards anything on Misplaced Pages because popularity doesn't always translate into actual notability and coverage. (]) Part of the reason is because in the past we've had people claim notability because the individual in question has a large following on say, Twitter, only to discover that they purchased the "fans" via various different companies that specialize in this. I know that some of the criteria says "large following" but the unsaid thing about this criteria is that it is fully expected that the following would have received coverage in reliable sources. (EX, ]) In other words the unsaid thing is that if something or someone has a fan following that substantial and noticeable in the media, they'd have received coverage themselves. In any case, I can't see where any of the concerns from the previous AfD have been met. ]] 08:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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			After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators {{u\|Buidhe}} and {{u\|Zippybonzo}}, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to {{u\|Dr vulpes}} who led with 880 points. See ] for further details.
	{{talkback\|Lixxx235\|ts=14:54, 18 May 2014 (UTC)}}
	Just in case you haven't watchlisted my talk, nothing important or urgent ] (]) 14:54, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

			Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the '''other 600 reviewers''' to do more! Please try to do at least '''one a day'''.
	== Why not just ask? ==

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	Getting my side of MONGO's tale, asking me about what Mongo is referring to rather than just taking his biased/POV word for it would have been a civil, AGF thing to do. He has an ax to grind, you gave an unbiased and accurate assessment of my editing from a neutral point of view. But, it doesn't matter now, I guess as you have stricken and withdrawn your endorsement. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 16:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|Winkelvi}}, I'm just not sure. I'll take a look at your edit history with a fine tooth comb and decide then. But I just did a brief overview and didn't look into any topic specific controversy.
	: I have found that you consider paywall materials and newspapers to be unreliable given that you must have a subscription to access them. Please see ] and ] for details on why this is not so. I should have looked into this and not endorsed without doing so. I cannot in good conscious restore my endorsement per this. See for what sections I looked at. (That and the rfc and everything below it) ] (]) 16:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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	::{{ping\|Tutelary}}That was only until it was explained to me why they are considered reliable (you can see my response to the editor who explained it here: ). As far as the latest RfC at the Simon Collins talk page, it was opened in error. My response to the RfC outlines why it never should have been opened as the concern Fugh had was resolved hours before he opened the RfC addressing that concern. He hasn't been back on Misplaced Pages since the RfC was opened to comment and/or close it.

			;TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated ].
	::Just yesterday, you were considered to be edit warring. Based on the warning you received, if I were to just do a quick glance at your talk page, should I judge you as an editor based on the presence of that warning? Is doing so what being collegial editors working together to build an encyclopedia on good faith in each other is about? Throwing out the baby with the bathwater based on the ax-grinding comments of one problematic editor (who had his administrator privileges revoked years ago and his subsequent request to have the privileges restored overwhelmingly denied) doesn't seem wise to me. (if you're interested, look at the number of times MONGO has been blocked for civility violations and edit warring violations here ). I wouldn't and shouldn't judge you based on that edit warring warning. No one should. At this point, it really doesn't matter to me anymore that you go back and reinstate your support/endorsement. It does matter to me that you give a second thought to basing judgements of other editors on one guy with a very loud voice who has a very questionable civility and behavior history in Misplaced Pages. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 16:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
	::: I honestly didn't think it would be a controversial endorsement, and I'll look into a few more of the happenings before judging again. ] (]) 17:22, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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	::::"Controversial" is certainly overstated. Now, the editing history of someone as controversial as MONGO, '''that''' is worthy of the aforementioned adjective. :-) -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 17:26, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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	A belated thanks for your support of my requesting STiki permissions! I got rollback rights though, so it doesn't matter anymore, but thanks! You're the reason I was confident enough to request rollback and reviewer. --] (]) 06:36, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|Lixxx235}}, Honestly I don't think you'll get reviewer, but congrats on the rollback. ] (]) 10:14, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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			Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The ] finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the ]. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

			'''Awards''': Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to {{Noping\|MPGuy2824}}), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to {{no ping\|John B123}} for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the ]. Check out the new ] also.
	== Wat? I have no bias against feminists ==

			'''Software news''': {{Noping\|Novem Linguae}} and {{Noping\|MPGuy2824}} have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently ]. The ] has also been improved.
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			'''Backlog''':] Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the ] to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
	All I did was point to the facts in the deletion log which document straight out a feminist led brigade from reddit trying to delete the article
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			== New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023 ==
	That's NOT a bias against feminism. That's a bias against hidden biases.

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	Tell ya what, keep to your corner of the wiki and I will keep to mine. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:54, 20 May 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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			;Backlog
			The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to {{noping\|WaddlesJP13}} who led with 2084 points. See ] for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
			;2022 Awards
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			{{no ping\|Onel5969}} won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. {{no ping\|Rosguill}} led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the ] and the ]. Congratulations everyone!

			'''Minimum deletion time''': The previous ] guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and ]). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the ] are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
	== US Airways ==

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	That RfC introduction is thoughtful, well written, and entirely neutral. I am genuinely impressed. Thank you. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 20:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
	: Thank you. ] (]) 20:29, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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	==Shaktimaan's character page==
	May i know, how you reverted Shaktimaan's page. Its a notable superhero. If it is non notable i myself would added to speedy deletion. I made a page nor violated terms! Character pages are of many characters like Tony Stark, Jack Sparrow, Bruce Wayne, Volverine. So do not target my works by any, '''Any Unfair Means'''
	] (]) 14:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|PrateekTamilian}}, I redirected it because there was an already an article about that character. You are free to add to that article, but two versions of the same article can be confusing to users. The speedy deletion criteria I'm talking about is ]. ] (]) 14:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::{{ping\|Tutelary}} God its a page and (character) is specified in end very respectively. Check character pages of ] he is too notable. Do not revert any work of mine. ] (]) 14:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::: {{ping\|PrateekTamilian}}, please do note that '''it is a duplicate article of an article already established.''' This is a speedy deletion criteria. I have chosen not to tag it, but any other editor can. I redirected it, preserving the page history so you can take the text from it and add to the article already established. ] (]) 14:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	:::{{ping\|Tutelary}} Tell me one thing why editors do this to new Wiki users? By the way, India is backward in all fields. Showing a notable character is considered a vandalistic work (specially if i do). Characters from American cinema are so notable that they are mentioned ]. Really if contribution is a wrong deed then its fair. I have made the page for proving a strong notability of character, but here editors find my works' painful. Even Iron Man has a character page with ]. My God its really amusing that its just a small attempt to protect just a character page. And for Shaktimaan a redirect. Think to leave this site as my works give pain to other users. ] (]) 14:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::::Did you see the WP:ANI discussion? "This user User:Tutelary is idiotically showing up her nature. She's deleting a page showing fake sites". Thanks for the copyvio-fighting; PrateekTamilian's been indeffed as a block-evading sock. ] (]) 22:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::::: I did very much look at the ANI, but I decided not to respond, as I'd googled various versions of the text and found them all over the place. So I figured I was right. Plus, ] comes into play. It seems to have been handled, so even if I were to respond, I don't think it would add very much at this point. (Plus I was on mobile and what not so it would've been difficult to do.) I'm on my computer now, so if it requires a response, I will. Thank you for the kind words, such a better contrast to the sock's insults.] (]) 22:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

			'''Discussions with the WMF''' The ] signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted ] in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as {{noping\|Novem Linguae}} and {{noping\|MPGuy2824}} have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also ] with the NPP coordinators to discuss ] that new users see.
	==Deletion Oppose==
	I think its really a shame to represent an Indian character. And the site where you provided has content from wikipedia to Mtv. Really its making me really irritating
	] (]) 15:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	: And one thing if it is blatant infringement put ] too in speedy deletion. And you idiotically added as infringement read and decide. I will put up you to Admin noticeboard.
	] (]) 15:47, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::Stop your vandalistic work. Stop at once!
	] (]) 16:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	<br>
	Hi Tutelary, I saw this on change patrol, and one thing strikes me as odd: the page is said to be a copy of an mtv.com page, but that page seems to be the page for a musical artist of the same name, with no infringing content that I can see. It IS, however, largely copied from http://www.relianceanimation.com/shaktimaan/shaktimaan-aniamted-characters.html, so is still a copyright violation. I only bring this up to point out that the Duplicate Detector seems to be catching violations, but is not associating them properly. ] (]) 16:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	:Deleted now, so irrelevant. I'll check with the tool's creator. Sorry to have bothered you. ] (]) 16:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	::{{ping\|Electric Wombat}} this Tutelary user is behaving smart as if Misplaced Pages is her property. Patent Nonsense user
	] (]) 16:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	:Tutelary, PrateekTamilian is a sockpuppet of ] and now blocked so feel free to disregard these messages. -- ''']'''] 20:56, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
	:: Thank you, Atama. Will do. ] (]) 20:59, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

	Hi! Tutelary. I just saw a deletion notice on Planet Miracles page and I have revised it now. Could you check the article and see if it meet he non-advertising requirement now? I also wrote a contest on my talk page. ] (])
	: {{ping\|Kiminamo}}, No. As it is still unambiguously promotional. You would have to fundamentally rewrite the page in a NPOV in order for the tag to not be valid anymore. ] (]) 00:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|Tutelary}} Thank you Tutelary. How about now? I have revised the article based on your instruction. ]
	:: {{ping\|Kiminamo}}, I've removed all non-NPOV language and content on the page. You need to add ] that establish notability, else somebody may nominate it deletion. You also need a claim of significance, which is ''why'' this group is notable and what they're notable for. An admin has already tagged it for deletion due to no claim of significance. Go establish one now] (]) 01:11, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
	:: {{ping\|Kiminamo}}, all it needs is a claim of significance, and it could be kept. But since you blanked it, it counts under a different speedy deletion criteria. ] (]) 01:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
	: {{ping\|Tutelary}} Thanks. It seems a little complicated so I just deleted the whole article. I will figure a good one before posting a new version. Thanks again.
	For Jabari Parker the citation is from draftexpress.com where it states on jabari's page his height and weight based off of NBA Draft Combine measurements, that is what he will be listed as. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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	\|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" \| For vandalizing where directed, and for a good sense of humor. Cheers! ] (]) 04:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
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	:Just wondering, do you regularly check my user page? I mean, how else would you find that? I'm flattered that you spend that time to do that for a user whom you met less than four days ago. Cheers! Thanks, ] (]) 04:08, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
	:: Nope, just decided to check it out just once and saw that vandal page and got curious. I'm also wondering if anybody ever had a 'vandal' page where a vandal actually took the advice and vandalized there. Oh, and no problem. You're as much of an editor as I am. ] (]) 15:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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	:My computer crashed. I will revert it again. That will put you at 3RR, forcing you to accept the ] that was yours all along. You do not just put stuff back, dude. You come talk about it. It isn't optional. Ever here of ]? Did it ever occur to you to ]? I've been doing this a good bit longer than you, and you are totally wrong. Start a discussion on the article's talk page and I will be happy to explain why. ] (]) 02:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

Hello Tutelary,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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TIP – New school articles

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Misc

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Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 14928 articles, as of 00:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

Hello Tutelary,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination: MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

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New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Tutelary,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Tutelary,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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