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| ==Edit warring== | |||
| Please read ]: whie one of your '''B'''old edits is '''R'''everted, you '''D'''iscuss, not edit war: please do so. - ] (]) 15:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Don't confuse an essay with policy, and stop reverting for no reason. ] (]) 15:19, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Not edit warring ''is'' a policy, so stop. I am not reverting for no reason: there is a reason. - ] (]) 15:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::If there is a reason, then put it in edit summaries, and give it on the talk page. ] (]) 15:21, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I've given it to you already in the summaries, if you don't understand it (or if you can't grasp why your edit warring is wrong), then perhaps you should find a new hobby, rather than being a pain? - ] (]) 15:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::No, you haven't given any reason. And learn to indent. ] (]) 15:26, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> ] You have been ''']''' from editing for a period of '''24 hours''' for ], as you did at ]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to ]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may ] by adding the following text below this notice: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}. However, you should read the ] first.<p>During a dispute, you should first try to ] and seek ]. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek ], and in some cases it may be appropriate to request ]. ''']''' ~ (]) 15:42, 21 June 2014 (UTC)</p></div><!-- Template:uw-ewblock --> | |||
| {{unblock reviewed|reason=I had, in fact, reverted to the previous version of the article to avoid breaking the 3RR and prolonging the edit war. ] (]) 15:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)|decline=Unambiguous edit warring. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 16:49, 21 June 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
| *I think you are trying to game the system here. Regardless of the legitimacy of your stance you tried to force the exact same edit through four times, while ] forced it out four times. However, you think you should be unblocked on a technicality simply because you made the first edit, which doesn't count as a "revert" and presumably SchroCat stays blocked because his first edit does count as a revert? I don't think that is very fair. Since you did re-revert in your last edit I do actually believe this block is no longer necessary as a preventative measure so I would support your unblock request here, but only if the other editor is unblocked too, and on the condition you agree to get a consensus on the talk page before altering the wording again. ] (]) 16:13, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*It's hardly a technicality that an edit only counts as a revert if it's a revert. ] (]) 16:22, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's a technicality because your behavior was essentially identical, regardless of what you call the first edit: you both installed your preferred versions four times over. That is why the 3RR rule doesn't just prohibit four "reverts", it also prohibits "edit-warring". It makes provisions for an admin to assess your conduct in a behavioral capacity. The fact is this dispute can't be resolved while one of you is blocked so there isn't much point in unblocking only one of you. ] (]) 16:45, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Identical? No. I explained the edit I made, and I acted to try to stop the edit war. SchroCat never gave any reason for reverting - he seemed to be reverting just for the sake of it, which is tantamount to vandalism. He also left personal attacks and removed the link to the AN discussion that I left on his talk page. ] (]) 17:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {{unblock reviewed | 1=It looks like you didn't understand and your "review" does not make any mention of what I said, so I'll repeat. I had, in fact, reverted to the previous version of the article to avoid breaking the 3RR and prolonging the edit war. ] (]) 17:04, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | decline = It's totally irrelevant whether or not you broke the so-called "three revert rule", as you were blocked for edit warring, not for breaking the "three revert rule". You were edit warring, and were blocked for edit warring, and there is no reason to unblock. (Also, it is totally disingenuous to pretend that your revert was aimed to stop the edit war: your edit summary when you reverted said "just temporarily", making it abundantly clear that you fully intended to continue the edit war. Every indication is that you were trying to game the system by avoiding breaking the "three revert rule", because for some obscure reason, like an amazing number of other editors, you thought that if you didn't break that "rule" then you couldn't be blocked, even though you were edit warring.) <small>''The editor who uses the pseudonym''</small> "]" (]) 18:33, 21 June 2014 (UTC)}} | |||
| :Fine. See you on the next IP, and you can obviously expect a less collegial approach from me in future. ] (]) 19:08, 21 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
| One more revert on Keating and you'll get blocked, and for a much longer period. ] (]) 05:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == July 2014 == | |||
| ] Your recent editing history at ] shows that you are currently engaged in an ]. '''Being involved in an edit war can result in your being ]'''—especially if you violate the ], which states that an editor must not perform more than three ] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. | |||
| To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's ] to work toward making a version that represents ] among editors. See ] for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant ] or seek ]. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary ]. {{Break}}''You have been asked to discuss the removal of content (which to your credit, you are doing) and further '''gain''' consensus to have the content removed.''<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> —]<font color="#FF9F00">☆</font>] 05:43, 2 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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