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	This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it gives facts about a walk that was taken from January 1st, 2010 to May 2010. It is supported by documents that followed the walk. It is not biased towards the act of social justice or the passing of the DREAM Act. It states what the Trail of Dreams stood for, what they did, how they did it, how they gathered support, how they were opposed, and how they are continuing the Trail of Dreams (although not in the form of a walk) today.		This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it gives facts about a walk that was taken from January 1st, 2010 to May 2010. It is supported by documents that followed the walk. It is not biased towards the act of social justice or the passing of the DREAM Act. It states what the Trail of Dreams stood for, what they did, how they did it, how they gathered support, how they were opposed, and how they are continuing the Trail of Dreams (although not in the form of a walk) today.<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:20, 5 December 2011</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

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	Merge ] with/into ], as it was a supportive campaign/activity by four people in support of DACA and serves to help identify the continued efforts to pass DACA, which activists hope will lead to permanent residency and eventually citizenship.		Merge ] with/into ], as it was a supportive campaign/activity by four people in support of DACA and serves to help identify the continued efforts to pass DACA, which activists hope will lead to permanent residency and eventually citizenship.
	] (]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)		] (]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
			:If there is such a strong connection, then why is ] not even mentioned in the ] article? Indeed, how can a walk in the year '''2010''' have been in support of a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012? – ] (]) 16:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
			::STRONG Merge or Delete!
			The activities were directed towards the goal of
			Deferred Action by Homeland Security/ICE so that children brought here as children would receive protection which eventually led to DACA (which was worked on by many organization). If this one activity by four people was that significant <ref></ref>there would be a Trail of Dreams 2010 ACT, which there is not. Also, the article denotes the ] as ''''another journey'''' which it was not, it was forced relocation/genocide 'causing the expulsion or death of a substantial part of the Native Americans then living in the southeastern United States.'
			PEACE OUT
			] (]) 18:56, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
			:{{reply to\|TalkAbout}} I don't understand why you want to merge this article, which appears to be about a walk to support the passing of the ], into something that seems a bit unrelated—]—rather than into the ] article. Regards, ] (]) 19:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

			:'''Merge into ] or Deletion'''. I am fine with merger into the ] under activities by Famous Dream Act Activists -> https://en.wikipedia.org/Dream_Act#Famous_DREAM_Act_Activists The legislation that passed was DACA (White House way to offer relief), the legislation for the ] may continue to gain some traction/support by House Speaker John Boehner in recent days and ultimately see passage:" A Republican version of the Dream Act has the support of House Speaker John Boehner, who said Wednesday the bill is "about basic fairness" for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, The Hill reported."'Trail of Dreams 2010' is a campaign within a movement and only by four people, that in many places list themselves as 'famous'. There is already a place here: Famous DREAM Act Activists via article on ].
			] (]) 20:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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			Thanks for pointing out the ] as being more relevant, stand corrected, especially as it is a bill that is still in process and not dead.
			Peace Out
			] (]) 20:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
			:OK, I tagged the articles. But if you want to propose deletion, see ]. ] (]) 20:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
			:] Thank you, Merge seems the most sensible way, under the ] with its own heading or into another appropriate one. Peace Out
			] (]) 00:46, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
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			* note, it seems like the consensus was that merging into ] was most appropriate, which I agree with, so I've removed the DACA tag. -- ] / <small>(])</small> 00:49, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it gives facts about a walk that was taken from January 1st, 2010 to May 2010. It is supported by documents that followed the walk. It is not biased towards the act of social justice or the passing of the DREAM Act. It states what the Trail of Dreams stood for, what they did, how they did it, how they gathered support, how they were opposed, and how they are continuing the Trail of Dreams (although not in the form of a walk) today.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmconner17 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 5 December 2011

Strong Merge

Discussion moved to Talk:Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals/Archive 1#Merger Discussion per Proposed Mergers.
Merge Trail of Dreams 2010 with/into Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, as it was a supportive campaign/activity by four people in support of DACA and serves to help identify the continued efforts to pass DACA, which activists hope will lead to permanent residency and eventually citizenship. TalkAbout (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC) If there is such a strong connection, then why is Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals not even mentioned in the Trail of Dreams 2010 article? Indeed, how can a walk in the year 2010 have been in support of a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012? – Wbm1058 (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC) STRONG Merge or Delete! The activities were directed towards the goal of Deferred Action by Homeland Security/ICE so that children brought here as children would receive protection which eventually led to DACA (which was worked on by many organization). If this one activity by four people was that significant Cite error: There are `<ref>` tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).there would be a Trail of Dreams 2010 ACT, which there is not. Also, the article denotes the Trail of Tears as 'another journey' which it was not, it was forced relocation/genocide 'causing the expulsion or death of a substantial part of the Native Americans then living in the southeastern United States.' PEACE OUT TalkAbout (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2014 (UTC) @TalkAbout: I don't understand why you want to merge this article, which appears to be about a walk to support the passing of the DREAM Act, into something that seems a bit unrelated—Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals—rather than into the DREAM Act article. Regards, Wbm1058 (talk) 19:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Merge into Dream Act or Deletion. I am fine with merger into the Dream Act under activities by Famous Dream Act Activists -> https://en.wikipedia.org/Dream_Act#Famous_DREAM_Act_Activists The legislation that passed was DACA (White House way to offer relief), the legislation for the Dream Act may continue to gain some traction/support by House Speaker John Boehner in recent days and ultimately see passage:" A Republican version of the Dream Act has the support of House Speaker John Boehner, who said Wednesday the bill is "about basic fairness" for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, The Hill reported."'Trail of Dreams 2010' is a campaign within a movement and only by four people, that in many places list themselves as 'famous'. There is already a place here: Famous DREAM Act Activists via article on Dream Act. TalkAbout (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Wbm1058 Thanks for pointing out the Dream Act as being more relevant, stand corrected, especially as it is a bill that is still in process and not dead. Peace Out TalkAbout (talk) 20:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC) OK, I tagged the articles. But if you want to propose deletion, see WP:AFD. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC) Wbm1058 Thank you, Merge seems the most sensible way, under the Dream Act with its own heading or into another appropriate one. Peace Out TalkAbout (talk) 00:46, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Talk:Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals/Archive 1#Merger Discussion per Proposed Mergers.

Merge Trail of Dreams 2010 with/into Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, as it was a supportive campaign/activity by four people in support of DACA and serves to help identify the continued efforts to pass DACA, which activists hope will lead to permanent residency and eventually citizenship. TalkAbout (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

If there is such a strong connection, then why is Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals not even mentioned in the Trail of Dreams 2010 article? Indeed, how can a walk in the year 2010 have been in support of a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012? – Wbm1058 (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

STRONG Merge or Delete!

The activities were directed towards the goal of Deferred Action by Homeland Security/ICE so that children brought here as children would receive protection which eventually led to DACA (which was worked on by many organization). If this one activity by four people was that significant Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).there would be a Trail of Dreams 2010 ACT, which there is not. Also, the article denotes the Trail of Tears as 'another journey' which it was not, it was forced relocation/genocide 'causing the expulsion or death of a substantial part of the Native Americans then living in the southeastern United States.' PEACE OUT TalkAbout (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

@TalkAbout: I don't understand why you want to merge this article, which appears to be about a walk to support the passing of the DREAM Act, into something that seems a bit unrelated—Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals—rather than into the DREAM Act article. Regards, Wbm1058 (talk) 19:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge into Dream Act or Deletion. I am fine with merger into the Dream Act under activities by Famous Dream Act Activists -> https://en.wikipedia.org/Dream_Act#Famous_DREAM_Act_Activists The legislation that passed was DACA (White House way to offer relief), the legislation for the Dream Act may continue to gain some traction/support by House Speaker John Boehner in recent days and ultimately see passage:" A Republican version of the Dream Act has the support of House Speaker John Boehner, who said Wednesday the bill is "about basic fairness" for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, The Hill reported."'Trail of Dreams 2010' is a campaign within a movement and only by four people, that in many places list themselves as 'famous'. There is already a place here: Famous DREAM Act Activists via article on Dream Act.

TalkAbout (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Wbm1058 Thanks for pointing out the Dream Act as being more relevant, stand corrected, especially as it is a bill that is still in process and not dead. Peace Out TalkAbout (talk) 20:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, I tagged the articles. But if you want to propose deletion, see WP:AFD. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Wbm1058 Thank you, Merge seems the most sensible way, under the Dream Act with its own heading or into another appropriate one. Peace Out

TalkAbout (talk) 00:46, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

note, it seems like the consensus was that merging into DREAM Act was most appropriate, which I agree with, so I've removed the DACA tag. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:49, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

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