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== FAR ==
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== Sorry about "Johnny Owens" post ==
I didn't notice it was copyright-protected.
I'll be more careful when i post something :)


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== {{tl|ImageNote}} ==
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Hi Lupo, how much do you know about {{tl|ImageNote}}? I'm asking because you edited the template on Misplaced Pages before, but it doesn't seem to be working here. Comparing the code of the template with that on Commons, the <noinclude></noinclude> and <includeonly></includeonly> tags are used differently. I'm wondering if that's why it's not working. But there's also an extra line of code
Images from the Australian parliament are not copyright. ] 12:44, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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== Copyrighted material ==


I'm not sure what it does, but maybe it needs to be added. The page is protected at the moment because it's used by a gadget (I don't know which one), so I was hoping someone else might know how to make it work. ] (]) 23:02, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm the author of this copyrighted material. Is there no convention for allowing copyrighted material to be reproduced with the author's permission?


#The added stuff you quoted above, which is present at the Commons, is just about template documentation.
:Hm. Look, you can't post stuff that includes a &copy; notice saying "all rights reserved". You are submitting (i.e., re-licensing) the text under the terms of the ], which allows anyone to edit it and to redistribute it, even for commercial purposes. Are you sure that's what you want? If you are the author, and do hold the copyright, state so on the talk page of the article. I will now send an e-mail to Michael Karl Witzel as a way to get independent confirmation. (On the wiki, anybody can claim to be anyone... :-) So watch your yahoo e-mail inbox! ] 21:18, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
#The template is not intended to be used manually.
#It's used by the ] gadget that was never enabled here. It was installed once for evaluation purposes.


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:Fine. I ''did'' get confirmation, and the whole issue (for the benefit of all bystanders: which was about ]) has been resolved amiably. ] 22:22, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)


::I manually added an annotation to ] by copying the wikicode from Commons. If I changed the noinclude/includeonly tags, would it start working? ] (]) 17:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
== why did removed the picture? (Pamela Anderson) ==


:::I don't think so, even if the gadget were enabled. For files that actually reside at the Commons, the gadget uses the descriptions defined at the Commons. You don't have to copy them over. If you had chosen a file that existed locally and enabled the gadget, then it should work. However, you could then also use the gadget to add the note in the first place. (The gadget would basically make an identical edit.) If you want to play with that gadget, please read the help pages here and at the Commons. (I hope it still works here; I haven't updated the installation here in a long time.) ] 22:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
there is no problem with that picture... --] 16:12, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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Hello Lupo. The user above has uploaded the Pamela Anderson image to the Hebrew Misplaced Pages as well, explaining it was taken from here. Now I see that he is the same one that uploaded it to here as well, and that it was removed. Is the image copyrighted? If it is, and needs to be removed from the Hebrew Wiki, let me know, and I'll delete it over there. Thanks, ] 19:11, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)


::::In fact, I just tried, and of course it didn't work anymore here. I've updated it now, and it works again. If you enable the gadget in your user.js, you should see image notes at ] and also at ]. And apparently I misremembered about local notes. The gadget ''does'' take the note from the local file description page. Frankly said, I'm not sure if this is a bug... I thought it would take those from the Commons. ] 22:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
:Dear ], I don't know if you are T.Ho. If you are, please understand that I do not intend to offend anyone. But I do think that these "portraits" of T.Ho are of poor quality. They do not give the reader (or viewer, as it were) an adequate, realistic idea of how the person portrayed looks like. In articles where Misplaced Pages doesn't (yet) have a real photo of a person, using one of T.Ho's graphics may be all right&mdash;it may be better than no image at all. But once an article gets a real picture of the person, these artworks serve no purpose anymore. Misplaced Pages is not the place to showcase somebody's artistic skills, and realistic photos are to be preferred over artistic portraits in an encyclopedia whereever possible. Art, by its very nature, embodies the personal preferences of the artist and is less objective than a photograph. True, a photographer also composes an image and decides how s/he wants to depict a subject, but still I do believe that photographs are more neutral, realistic, and generally more suitable for use in an encyclopedia. For these reasons, I had removed T.Ho's portrait of Pamela Anderson, for that article ''has'' a real photograph. (Moreover, one that is purported to be in the public domain, whereas there is no clear licensing information for T.Ho's portrait.) ] 07:10, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::This still doesn't answer ''my'' question: should I remove the pic?--] 19:42, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
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:::::It ''is'' a bug. Since the gadget does not allow adding notes for remote files, it should also ignore any notes on a local description page of a remote file and should only take those from the remote description. ] 08:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
I confirmed it by phone with Auspic when this first arose. You'll just have to take my word for it. ] 07:31, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)


== Francis Buchanan-Hamilton == == Lonzo content ==


This is my own work, which I uploaded it myself from the photo album..........
Sorry - hadn't noticed Francis Hamilton-Buchanan, most of the references seem ot have it as ]. ] 10:02, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
And thats my account on that page you linked, like where it comes from.... I have every proof... thank you... <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I presume this is about ]. First, complain at the Commons about image deletions that happen at the Commons. Second, the link I gave is just some fanpix site; that just shows that it's copied from the Internet, it doesn't say that site had any rights to that image. Third, if you can prove that you are the photographer of that picture, send your proof via ]. ] 12:53, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


== Winter service vehicle-tehran.jpg ==
== Copying text from Fortress UK site ==


Hello dear Lupo. Please to see you. I suppose something wrong's been happened. the picture ''Winter service vehicle-tehran.jpg'' is already taken by me so I'm its owner. The speedy deletion tag must be removed from my work. Thanks. ] 09:57, 08 May 2014 (UTC)
I would like to transfer text from my Fortress UK site into Misplaced Pages. How can I do this without being tripped up by copyright queries like on the ] page for each new entry? John Bray
:Nonsense. That was an image already published, and it showed a ] at Whistler Mountain, not Teheran. The image came from , photo: Mitch Winton / coastphoto.com. ] 04:34, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


== Capitan Swan Puzzle (presented within KLM Airline for children).jpg ==
:As I said, I'll e-mail you in a minute. ] 15:38, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Hi again, I also added a new trademark tag for the image about the '''KLM''' puzzle. ] 10:08, 08 May 2014 (UTC)
==Sorry about that==
:It's got nothing to do with trademarks. The image shown by that puzzle itself is copyrighted and even bears a copyright mark. So a photo of that puzzle can be published under a free license only if the copyright holder formally agrees. ] 04:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about reverting your revert to Elvis, I guess maybe I was agreeing it was a revert or something. I don't know. -- ]


== Mawejjederrick's uploads ==
:Hey, no problem! Actually made me smile. Unfortunately I couldn't think of a witty edit summary... ] 20:21, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Mr Lupo i wanted to discuss with you a bout the issues concerning copy right, because all the images i upload on artcles like one for Radababa article are under CC BY-SA 3.0, so i wish they are not deleted because they provide a clear description of the an article <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:16, 12 May 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:This is about ]. You upload images taken from any number of websites. None of these web sites indicate any free license for these images. In general, images you can find on the Internet are ''all'' copyrighted, all rights reserved, unless there is an explicit mention of a free license. See ]. ] 10:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the defacing of http://en.wikipedia.org/Semaphore_%28communication%29. I'm glad there are some alert readers out there! ] 20:34, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)


==Why are my uploads flagged and others on the same page aren't?==
== Bulletin board type useage of wikipedia ==


Mr Lupo, why does my picture keep getting flagged but the others of games get to stay? ] (]) 14:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi
:Which others? Point me to them, and I'll take them down, too, if they are copyright violations. ] 15:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


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I really hope you are an admin for this site because i have some serious concerns. I got your message directed to me. But the Ip address you are tracing is a corporate firewall. we are a call center where sometimes there are long durations of downtime between calls, because of this out tech department has allowed internet acess to certain sites. Misplaced Pages is one of them. many people here use the site daily. If you could block the ip address from making changes but still allow view only acess, it would prevent a couple idiots from ruining it for the rest of us.


Sorry to bring up something after so long, but did you conclude that this Villa player is a hoax or fantasy? ] (]) 07:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thankyou
:Yes. See ]. ] 15:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)


== photographie Walter Wachsmuth ==
:I have no idea what this is all about. ] 07:59, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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: (for bystanders: this is about ]; see ]) I do hope you meant "help''ful''". ] 14:52, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


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== Photograph of Fusilier Lee Rigby ==
Also try:


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How is that nonsense?? It is a very notable pop-culture reference.


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:... and what is this about? In case you mean Jason Allan: any article that starts with "Dumbass" and fails to give context is fair game for speedy deletion. (The latter in itself is a sufficient criterion.) Write a decent article about him! BTW, you can sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>); the software will replace them by your signature and a timestamp when you save the page. ] 10:50, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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DIe uebersetzung leventina/livinental auf livigno in englisch ist meiner Meinung falsch, da livigno ja ein Tal in Italien ist! oder sehe ich das falsch?
Why did you remove the Westland Lynx image? The Westland Helicopters Website where it was downloaded from (http://www.whl.co.uk/) clearly stated:


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:Based on this statement, I deleted the image as a copyvio. ] 13:26, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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I,m doing my very best to make the Ann-Margret page look beautiful. Thank you! And, I finally got it right! Just look at it now.


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Thanks again. Thats all.--] 08:02, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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== Error in your LAPI.js script ==
I am sending the appropriate e-mails/contact.--] 08:02, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Hi Lupo. I have recently turned on the gadget ImageAnnotator in my preferences, and I now get an annoying javascript warning in my console about "unreachable code after return statement" on every single page load. I have tracked down the error to the <code>currentStyle</code> function in the <code>LAPI.DOM</code> section. In that function you include a <code>return</code> statement followed by a newline and then what you expected to return:
e-mails responded.<br>
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From your responce to netaholic.<br>
if (property == 'cssFloat') property = 'float';
>I've just spent several hours going through page histories and the like.
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I assume you know this, but in case you didn't, you cannot add a line break after a <code>return</code> call, even if there is no semicolon ending the line. The parser is set up to basically make semicolons optional, so a line break after a return just ends the line automatically, and the next line is not executed; the script just returns silently without a value. I believe this is what is causing the warning to show up in my console, and the way to fix it would be to simply remove the line break there. Would you be willing to do that? Thanks!--] (]) 23:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
:Good catch! Fixed this and a second occurrence of the same problem. ] 18:48, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks! I'm no longer getting the warning on every page load!--] (]) 19:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


== Zamba´s name from ==
Thank you very much for you time effort. I hope this mess will clear up soon.--] 04:45, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)


hi my name is Jose Miguel Zamba Gomes from Angolan, and i would like to about where your name zamba from.. my skype is divanicy or j.zamba@outlook.com contact me..
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Thanks;
Hi Lupo, I figure you're the guy I can talk to first about copyright issues. ] is actually copyrighted material and is actually the same as http://www.spurlock.uiuc.edu/collections/artifact/oxyrhynchus/papyrus3.jpg. This is on a featured article! In fact, all the images placed on this article have been placed on there by ] without any image copyright attributions. ] has no attribution, and I think comes from http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/VExhibition/images/a6.jpg, and the copyright status is unclear. The case could be stated that this is a fairuse image, however this is debatable. The image ] also has no copyright attribution, and appears to be a cleaned up version of the image http://www.ulb.ac.be/assoc/aip/grenfell_150dpi.jpeg found from http://www.ulb.ac.be/assoc/aip/galerie_g-l.htm. The original source of this image is "P. Oxy. XVII (1927) front." The image ] appears to be a modification of http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/oxyrhynchus7.jpg, from http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/oxyrhynchus.htm (which is copyrighted material). So here's my problem: we have a featured article story with ''all'' the images (contributed by one user) under doubt. Firstly, what does this do to the featured article status, secondly what do we do about the images, and thirdly how do we make sure this user doesn't keep doing this? - ] 13:20, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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Further to this, please note the following images have no copyright attribution and no image source. This is going to make it hard for us to use fair use and fair dealing stick! I can't track down their original source.
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There are plenty more. What do I do?! Adam Carr is a good editor and contributor, by the way (even though I disagree with him on some edits). It's just that I'm a bit concerned with these images having no source and copyright... it doesn't reflect too well on Misplaced Pages!
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Hello,
:Yes, I know that Adam is, when it comes to images, a problem user. In fact, I'm still in the process of verifying his claim that AUSPIC images were not copyrighted. I'll tell him once more that he should provide source and licensing info (if you check his talk page, you'll see that several people have told him so already; see e.g. ). If he still doesn't change his behavior, I'm afraid I'll have to start an RfC on this. It ''is'' troublesome, and it's been going on for far too long. ] 07:44, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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::Lupo, I can verify this for you. I live in Australia. Please message me the contact details or a website and I will get this underway. Thanks. - ] 11:15, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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I am finding this all rather tiresome and puzzling. The photos of Australian MPs and Senators are from the www.aph.gov.au website. They are taken by Auspic, and I rang Auspic when this was first raised to find out if they are copyright, and they told me that they are available for non-commercial use. These photos are widely reproduced in Australia. That is ''why'' they are at the website. How many times do I have to explain this? If you don't believe me ring Auspic yourself (+61 2 6277 3342). As to the other images referred to above, Map1.gif, etc, are maps I created myself. How do I "license" my own work? The other images come from a variety of historical and political websites, which I couldn't now remember even if I wanted to. The use of all these images for a non-commercial purpose such as an encyclopaedia is "fair use" under any reasonable interpretation. Since most of them are of long-dead politicians and generals and taken by long-dead photographers, and since they have been posted to multiple similar websites, I would be very surprised if there are any copyright issues with them. I must say I think this whole image-copyright issue that some people here have is greatly exaggerated. There are obvious copyright issues with current news media images and images by professional photographers (which are clearly marked as copyright), but I doubt anyone cares a straw about the re-use of these old photos. And even if they do, they will in the first place ask Misplaced Pages to remove them. (I have no idea what "licensing info" means, by the way). ] 08:13, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:Bad news for you Adam. This isn't correct. I just contacted the Parliament of Australia and we need to get confirmation of copyright for the images - and we need to do this department by department. There is no such thing in Australia as a fair use for the government. I'm going to verify with Auspic the copyright status of these images myself. - ] 07:12, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:#Give the sources. just state "Source: <URL>" on the image description page, replacing "<URL>" by the URL you got the image from. For stuff created by yourself, just say so.
:#Licensing: there's a whole slew of ready-made ] that you can use. What's so damn complicated about putting e.g. <nowiki>"{{noncommercial}}"</nowiki> on an image description page? (But for "non-commercial use only"-images, see ]! Jimbo doesn't want them because he thinks they're not free. I think we should use them (they're at least properly licensed, which is more than what can be said about dubious "fair use" claims), but he owns Misplaced Pages, and so I won't upload such images. (Nor will I ever delete such images.)) For stuff you created yourself, decide on an appropriate license (], or one of the ]s) and use the corresponding tag.
:#On AUSPIC: no offense meant, but I've seen the claim "this image is copyright free" too often. I prefer to get some e-mail confirmation for such claims. If they don't reply to my e-mails, I ''will'' phone them (though that will be a rather expensive long-distance call for me) and see if I can get them to send me a confirming e-mail in that way.
:::There is absolutely no need to do this. I am an Australian and I can contact them. What is AUSPIC's phone number/website? - ] 11:00, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::: Adam gave it above. I've sent them two e-mails so far (the second one today), asking for clarifications. If you'd like to call them, thanks a lot. Try to get them to send you an e-mail explaining the copyright status of their images found on web sites of the Australian government. If you want, I can forward you the two e-mails I have already sent. ] 18:40, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:#As to "fair use": Australian copyright law doesn't know fair use. In fact, it's a peculiarity of U.S. law, and I have strong doubts that it can be applied to anything but U.S. sources.
:#The "copy it and see if we can get away with it" attitude you express in your above statement is highly unprofessional.


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:One point I maybe should have made, however, is that Australian copyright lasts for 50 years. If any of the images created in Australia is over 50 years old, then we are in the clear. However, we should still be attributing the sources of the image so that this can be verified. Another thing that needs to be made clear is that just because we aren't aware of the copyright status of the image or material in question does not mean wikipedia won't be held liable for copyright infringement. Ignorance is no excuse under Australian law. Under Australian copyright, creators of works have three "moral rights" when we reproduce their work:
:# they must be attributed
:# they are able to take action if you state their work is someone else's work, or alter their work and say it's your own or someone elses
:# can take action against you if you use the work to defame or dishonor them
: It's not hard to track down this info, btw. Just go to http://www.copyright.org.au and look at http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G010.pdf. The important point here though is that although Australia doesn't have "fair use" it does have ] legislation. For it to apply, you must be reviewing or criticising that work, doing research or study or be reporting news. None of these things are likely to be claimable for the images I've noted. The images aren't for research or study - they are for finishing off the final article, though the case could be made that the image is for the purpose of "a thorough examination and analysis of a particular subject" (the same definition as the ] . It can't be criticism or review, because the Australia Federal Court has stated that for the reproduced work to be seen as criticism and review the article must make some form of judgement. Misplaced Pages does not do this, it's against the whole concept of NPOV! For more info see http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G079.pdf So unless we can get copyright status, then we're stuffed on each of the Australian images.


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What's Australian copyright law got to do with it? Very few of the images I use are Australian, and Misplaced Pages is based in Florida, I believe. However, since y'all seem to think this is such a big deal I will try to be more attentive to it in future. I have no idea what GFDL or Creative Commons are but I suppose I can find out. ] 13:22, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:Cool. Copyright is an important issue for Misplaced Pages, and we need to be able to clarify the copyright status of our material. We're paranoid about it because a company like SCO might come along and try to kill the project dead. Or even try to take away the close to $50,000 that has been contributed so far in donations. - ] 13:39, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:Adam, I mentioned Australian copyright law only because of the AUSPIC images. If they indeed are "copyright-free", then of course that mention is completely misleading. If they're not, we could maybe use them under "fair use", but I do not know whether fair use applies to non-U.S. sources. Probably not. As to fair dealing: AFAIK, fair dealing is a closed copyright exemption: i.e. an exhaustive list of things you may do. If we can find some item in this list that would apply to using images despite their being copyrighted, fine. But if not, then we just can't use them. (Fair use, on the other hand, is open, i.e. must be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.) ] 18:40, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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Lupo, I've created an Australian fairdealing tag: ]. Want to check this out? Also, I think I'm going to be expanding the fair dealing Austalian section once I read the relevant acts. Anyway, what do you think? Maybe we could add this to the ] page if the community likes it. How do I get this tag to be reviewed? - ] 11:13, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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::Ok, now having read the relevant information sheets at (they're ''very'' good), I see that Australian copyright law knows exactly four exemptions from copyright protection (which is automatic in Australia, i.e. one doesn't need to register or even place a &copy; on a publication&mdash;the mere act of publication suffices):
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::*research and study, where "research is defined as "diligent and systematic enquiry or investigation into a subject in order to discover facts or principles..." and "study" as "a thorough examination and analysis of a particular subject..." (). However, use is limited to "For text material published in electronic form, it is deemed to be fair to reproduce one chapter or 10% of the number of words." (ibid.)
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::*criticism or review: as you pointed out, the definition of either term includes judgement and thus contradicts our NPOV policy. Therefore, this cannot apply to Misplaced Pages.
::*reporting news: also doesn't apply to Misplaced Pages
::*professional advice by a lawyer, patent attorney or trade marks attorney. Also doesn't apply.
::Hence, the only way we could invoke "fair dealing" under Australian copyright law was the "study" case: one could argue that the writing of an encyclopedia article is a study. However, the "max. 10%" rule in effect cannot be enforced on a Wiki, and thus we cannot use that excuse either.
::In summary, I don't see how fair dealing under Australian copyright law could be used to justify including copyrighted text or images in Misplaced Pages, and thus I believe the template has no use. All this under one big caveat: I am ''not'' a lawyer. ] 07:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::Fair enough, but it should be OK if we use this on images. We'd have to prove that it's no more than 10% of the original material. Perhaps I could make this specific to images? - ] 07:34, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::::Well, they only talk about ''text''. How "10%" would be interpreted with respect to images, I do not know. For the discussion here, let's just assume it was "10% of all images on the website". How would we enforce that we didn't use more than that? Assume there were 100 images of Australian senators. The first 10 uploads would be ok, but the eleventh not? We have no way of controlling that, and thus I think we cannot rely on the "study" exception either. ] 07:41, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
:::::Hold on... each individual article is counted as a seperate body of research. Unless we had an article with a picture of 100 senators (I don't think that would happen!) and the total work is 10% then we don't need to worry. Besides which, at the end of the day whether we have this tag or not is beside the point. If we somehow quote more than 10% of the work, then we violate Australian law. We would have to modify the article in any case! - ] 11:28, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::::::They say explicitly in : "if you are reproducing text or printed music which is published as an edition of 10 or more pages, the Act deems that it is fair to copy: (a) 10% of the number of pages; or (b) one chapter, if the work is divided into chapters. (For text material published in electronic form, it is deemed to be fair to reproduce one chapter or 10% of the number of words. If text is available in hardcopy and separately in electronic form, you can apply either the test relating to the number of pages or relating to the number of words to work out what is deemed to be fair.)" I would assume that in the case of a web site like , one page on a senator might be considered one chapter. And if the images are taken from (A single PDF file with all the pictures), my above argument certainly applies. However, I've just noted that they also say "For other material, such as drawings, photographs, unpublished material and so on, the Act does not state how much you may use without permission. Rather, you will need to consider whether, in all the circumstances, it is fair to use the material." and then goes on to give a list of considerations that is surprisingly close to the U.S. notion of "fair use".
::::::Hmph. So, on closer reading, it ''does'' seem that Australian fair dealing is&mdash;concerning images only!&mdash;very much like U.S. "fair use". Only for text the strict 10% rule applies. That info should go into the ] article.
::::::In light of this, I now think that indeed your template may have some value. Remains to be argued that writing a Misplaced Pages article is a kind of "study"... if we can argue that, then we can use that template for Australian images. ] 14:57, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The whole thing is simply a question of jurisdiction. If we include a copyrighted work from some other country than the U.S. under the U.S. "fair use" copyright exemption, and the non-U.S. copyright holder then sues Misplaced Pages (or the Wikimedia foundation, or Jimbo), ''where'' does he have to go to court?
*If he can sue in his own country, then we can apply fair use only to U.S. materials because a non-U.S. court would apply non-U.S. law, and thus "fair use" wouldn't even be considered.
*If, however, the non-U.S. copyright holder would have to sue in Florida, a U.S. court would apply U.S. law, and Misplaced Pages would be fine if the "fair use" claim was substantiated.
From what I have gathered from previous discussions on this subject, nobody around here seems to know which case would apply, but apparently there is some concern that the first might occur: the German Misplaced Pages, for instance, does ''not'' allow fair use images, because German copyright law doesn't have the concept. It only has a few well-defined exemptions akin to fair dealing, and none of them are applicable to Misplaced Pages. ] 07:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::I'd be interested to see how the new fair trade agreement between Australia and the U.S. deals with this. We've been progressively harmonising our laws with the U.S. laws. - ] 07:36, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:That's good. So we'll have to add the sources and the <nowiki>"{{noncommercial}}"</nowiki> tag to these images, plus a Wikilink to the confirming e-mail once you've posted it somewhere. Adding "photo courtesy of AUSPIC" on the image description pages might be a good idea, too. ] 08:39, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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In order to satisfy who, exactly? There are 150 MPs and 76 Senators. I'm not going to do all that work unless there is a very good reason - eg, a real possibility of legal action. ] 09:51, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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I have an eye on other images submitted by our new friend. We're also having a chat on the idea of copyrights and copyright tags (we both know that learning all the nuances takes time). As to the picture itself - I investigated the history of this picture some time ago when I uploaded it to the Polish wiki. It was an official portrait of gen. Haller used during and after the Polish-Bolshevik War of 1920. It was used in official publications of the Polish ministry of war affairs as well as by the media. I've seen the picture used several dozen times - without any info on the author or copyrights. According to present Polish law (post-1994) the copyrights (if the image was ever copyrighted at all) expired long ago (it's 65 years in most cases, AFAIR). On the other hand the polishpd is somehow clumsy, just as fairuse and other "copyleft assumed" licenses. In this case the matter is clear, the image is not copyrighted and as such it should be treated as simple international PD. ]]]] 00:34, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
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:Thanks for doing this (and for replacing the image so quickly). I got confused because on sv:, VfD seems to be part of the Village Pump. And since I can't read Swedish, I thought I'd check RC to see if somebody whose name I might recognize was around. But you sure have powerful words over there: ''upphovsrättsbrott'' or even ''copyrightbrott'' just sound great (especially the former)! We should start using that over here: "Never again upload a '''copyrightbrott''', or else!" Sounds much harsher than "Please do not upload copyright violations". :-) ] 19:43, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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I presume you comment (at ]) is because ] is usually connected to criminal or fraudulent endeavors, as it usually is. You certainly have a point. Unfortunately, I do not know any other term for people who have misrepresented their background, even if their intentions are not criminal as such. As far as I know, terms like "white indian" and "black indian" are at least partially derogatory (as in some african-americans accusing middle-class blacks "going white"). However, I wish there would be good term who people who have "gone native" (usually westerners who have joined some other culture for their own reasons) - Grey Owl and ] would certainly fit that bill. There was also Victorian man who wanted to become an ottoman sultan or something like that but the name escapes me at the moment.


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:Exactly. "Impostor" bit me because of its negative connotations. I'm not sure whether "black indian" or "white indian" is derogatory, both terms get lots of Googlits on respectable web sites. ] pretended to be an ]. How sincere this was I cannot judge, and whether the Ojibwas accepted him as one of theirs, I do not know. ] at least was (according to the article) adopted by the Blood tribe. Now what do we do with ] people? Do we have a category for those? We certainly don't call them "impostors". Maybe both ] and ] should simply removed from the list at ] and from the category...
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::Most of my (few) sources say ] - I corrected it. I have also noticed term "faux indian".


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::As for their sincerity, it is probably impossible to say. Sylvester Long probably wanted to better his own social position and Belaney had romantic fascination to amerindian life, but this is entirely my own view. Ojibwas were probably aware of the origin of the Grey Owl but (AFAIK) said nothing when Yellow Robe spoke about his suspicions about Long. Long's "adoption" was apparently more of a "honorific membership" amerindian tribes have bestowed to celebrities (like ]) and even foreign dignitaries, and that does not necessarily mean true membership of the tribe.


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::As for naturalization, most of those who change citizenship do not try to change their past and claim that they were, say, born in their new homeland. But as I said, you have a point- ] 10:56, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)


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:What a surprise! I thought you'd all but gone, too, but now I see you're back in force since this year. I guess my activity here will remain at current extremely low levels, though. ] 21:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, I got pulled back in somehow. Mostly absent for a long time because my academic work scratches the same itch. But there's also something to be said for working on articles people might actually read.


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Do you have a LIFE? Obviously not! But, just to humour you, I got pic #1 from ESPN (ask THEM where they got it!), pics #2 and #3 from google images search (again, ask THEM where they got them!) You still wanna zap 'em, knock yourself out -- I could give a f*ck!
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Thanks for restoring. I wasn't planning to have it restored because it probably was not that relevant.
Did'nt have enough motivation anymore.
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{{ImageNote}}

Hi Lupo, how much do you know about {{ImageNote}}? I'm asking because you edited the template on Misplaced Pages before, but it doesn't seem to be working here. Comparing the code of the template with that on Commons, the and tags are used differently. I'm wondering if that's why it's not working. But there's also an extra line of code

{{#ifeq:{{{id|{{{1}}}}}}|1|<!-- -->{{Iffile|1={{ImageNote/header}}}}<!-- -->}}

I'm not sure what it does, but maybe it needs to be added. The page is protected at the moment because it's used by a gadget (I don't know which one), so I was hoping someone else might know how to make it work. Nev1 (talk) 23:02, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

  1. The added stuff you quoted above, which is present at the Commons, is just about template documentation.
  2. The template is not intended to be used manually.
  3. It's used by the ImageAnnotator gadget that was never enabled here. It was installed once for evaluation purposes.

Lupo 07:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I manually added an annotation to a file on Misplaced Pages by copying the wikicode from Commons. If I changed the noinclude/includeonly tags, would it start working? Nev1 (talk) 17:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't think so, even if the gadget were enabled. For files that actually reside at the Commons, the gadget uses the descriptions defined at the Commons. You don't have to copy them over. If you had chosen a file that existed locally and enabled the gadget, then it should work. However, you could then also use the gadget to add the note in the first place. (The gadget would basically make an identical edit.) If you want to play with that gadget, please read the help pages here and at the Commons. (I hope it still works here; I haven't updated the installation here in a long time.) Lupo 22:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
In fact, I just tried, and of course it didn't work anymore here. I've updated it now, and it works again. If you enable the gadget in your user.js, you should see image notes at File:Spelterini Blüemlisalp.jpg and also at File:MacLellan's Castle 20080422 - entrance.jpg. And apparently I misremembered about local notes. The gadget does take the note from the local file description page. Frankly said, I'm not sure if this is a bug... I thought it would take those from the Commons. Lupo 22:37, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
It is a bug. Since the gadget does not allow adding notes for remote files, it should also ignore any notes on a local description page of a remote file and should only take those from the remote description. Lupo 08:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Lonzo content

This is my own work, which I uploaded it myself from the photo album.......... And thats my account on that page you linked, like where it comes from.... I have every proof... thank you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by OGmuthafkkinDoc (talkcontribs) 12:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I presume this is about c:File:The Word Class Wreckin' Cru on tour in 1988..jpg. First, complain at the Commons about image deletions that happen at the Commons. Second, the link I gave is just some fanpix site; that just shows that it's copied from the Internet, it doesn't say that site had any rights to that image. Third, if you can prove that you are the photographer of that picture, send your proof via OTRS. Lupo 12:53, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Winter service vehicle-tehran.jpg

Hello dear Lupo. Please to see you. I suppose something wrong's been happened. the picture Winter service vehicle-tehran.jpg is already taken by me so I'm its owner. The speedy deletion tag must be removed from my work. Thanks. Milad Mosapoor 09:57, 08 May 2014 (UTC)

Nonsense. That was an image already published, and it showed a snow blower at Whistler Mountain, not Teheran. The image came from , photo: Mitch Winton / coastphoto.com. Lupo 04:34, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Capitan Swan Puzzle (presented within KLM Airline for children).jpg

Hi again, I also added a new trademark tag for the image about the KLM puzzle. Milad Mosapoor 10:08, 08 May 2014 (UTC)

It's got nothing to do with trademarks. The image shown by that puzzle itself is copyrighted and even bears a copyright mark. So a photo of that puzzle can be published under a free license only if the copyright holder formally agrees. Lupo 04:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Mawejjederrick's uploads

Mr Lupo i wanted to discuss with you a bout the issues concerning copy right, because all the images i upload on artcles like one for Radababa article are under CC BY-SA 3.0, so i wish they are not deleted because they provide a clear description of the an article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mawejjederrick (talkcontribs) 10:16, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

This is about c:Special:Log/Mawejjederrick. You upload images taken from any number of websites. None of these web sites indicate any free license for these images. In general, images you can find on the Internet are all copyrighted, all rights reserved, unless there is an explicit mention of a free license. See c:COM:NETCOPYRIGHT. Lupo 10:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Why are my uploads flagged and others on the same page aren't?

Mr Lupo, why does my picture keep getting flagged but the others of games get to stay? Holland9 (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Which others? Point me to them, and I'll take them down, too, if they are copyright violations. Lupo 15:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

User:Eagman1/Jan Estrada

Sorry to bring up something after so long, but did you conclude that this Villa player is a hoax or fantasy? Rankersbo (talk) 07:02, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes. See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jan Estrada. Lupo 15:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

photographie Walter Wachsmuth

Thank you very much for your helpless words. Now, I think, the aim could be reached! Alles Gute für Sie von "Prädikat" aus Deutschland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prädikat (talkcontribs) 13:57, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

(for bystanders: this is about File:Musiker und Komponist Walter Wachsmuth, Braunschweig 1910.jpg; see commons:User talk:Prädikat) I do hope you meant "helpful". Lupo 14:52, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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Photograph of Fusilier Lee Rigby

With respect to the page Murder of Lee Rigby, The Photograph of Fusilier Lee Rigby has the incorrect copyright attribution and is not a UK Crown Copyright photograph and therefore is not available under the Open Government Licence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UKMinistryofDefence (talkcontribs) 09:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Maybe so. As one can see at the archived original source, the MOD stated "All content is available under the Open Government Licence, except where otherwise stated", and there was no statement that the image was copyrighted by somebody else. Looks like the MOD has now taken down the image pending a resolution of a copyright claim by a photographer. Further discussions at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Drummer Lee Rigby.jpg. Lupo 16:48, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Karte Alte Eidgenossenschaft Englisch-Übersetzung

DIe uebersetzung leventina/livinental auf livigno in englisch ist meiner Meinung falsch, da livigno ja ein Tal in Italien ist! oder sehe ich das falsch?

mein Mail ist n9d@me.com! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.38.81.249 (talk) 13:57, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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Error in your LAPI.js script

Hi Lupo. I have recently turned on the gadget ImageAnnotator in my preferences, and I now get an annoying javascript warning in my console about "unreachable code after return statement" on every single page load. I have tracked down the error to the currentStyle function in the LAPI.DOM section. In that function you include a return statement followed by a newline and then what you expected to return:

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I assume you know this, but in case you didn't, you cannot add a line break after a return call, even if there is no semicolon ending the line. The parser is set up to basically make semicolons optional, so a line break after a return just ends the line automatically, and the next line is not executed; the script just returns silently without a value. I believe this is what is causing the warning to show up in my console, and the way to fix it would be to simply remove the line break there. Would you be willing to do that? Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 23:20, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Good catch! Fixed this and a second occurrence of the same problem. Lupo 18:48, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm no longer getting the warning on every page load!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Zamba´s name from

hi my name is Jose Miguel Zamba Gomes from Angolan, and i would like to about where your name zamba from.. my skype is divanicy or j.zamba@outlook.com contact me..

Thanks; Zamba — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.32.198.242 (talk) 11:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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These were related to Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator. Since the gadget was never officially installed here, I guess removing them doesn't bother anyone. Lupo 11:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

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Ping

Good to see you pop up on my watchlist :) Haukur (talk) 10:10, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

What a surprise! I thought you'd all but gone, too, but now I see you're back in force since this year. I guess my activity here will remain at current extremely low levels, though. Lupo 21:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I got pulled back in somehow. Mostly absent for a long time because my academic work scratches the same itch. But there's also something to be said for working on articles people might actually read.
I miss you at Commons which is as much a mess as ever with poor sourcing and confused copyright claims. Haukur (talk) 22:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Came across your Annotated image .... and thought you needed this Victuallers (talk) 08:33, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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