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Dude now check the main lead. Every thing mentioned is sourced and all sources are reliable. please check before reverting. myself cleaned unwanted content.now the article looks perfect. Thanks ] ] (])‎ 14:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC).


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Hi Red-Pen,
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If I were to accept your two "negatively phrased" points in the last sentence of the lead for the ] article, could you allow me to add one more "positively phrased" point there, such that it would read something like:
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Would this be acceptable to you? Hoping we might be able to settle this thing directly between us. ] (]) 14:35, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Scottperry}} it would probably be better to beef up the reception section and once that is more fully reflective of the views that are out there, adjust the lead to match. -- ]
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::The book is clearly a somewhat "controversial" book, with very strong opinions on both sides. "Christians" and athiests on the one side considering it as pure rubbish at best, or satanic at worst, while the millions who study it, obviously consider it to be of considerable value. You would appear to me to fall into the "anti-camp" while I admittedly fall into the "pro-camp". With controversial topics, it is my understanding that Misplaced Pages generally attempts to suitably represent both sides of any such "conversation", no? ] (]) 15:00, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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:::nope ] which per Miller is "Christians think it is non-Christian at best and Satanic at worst, Academia considers it pure psychobabble, its promoters see it as a financial cash cow, and its adherents love it." -- ] 15:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
And there is also ]
::::So you are then saying that the reports of its adherents cannot be represented in Misplaced Pages, per Misplaced Pages policy?] (]) 15:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::reports of its adherents are only appropriate when filtered through a third party expert who evaluates their representation and value. -- ] 15:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::::::So then, all articles on Christianity cannot allow for any "Christian" authors to be directly represented? Is that what you are saying? Same would go for athiests, birthers, etc. etc. I have not heard that rule before. ] (]) 15:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::::sure we do. we dont include "John Doe Christian believes/do/are considered X" we have "Theologian John Doe says Christians believe/do/are considered X" and when it is clear that Theologian John Doe's views represent a majority of the experts on the subject, we simply say "Christians believe/do/are considered X" but its based on the third party expert.-- ] 15:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
It seems to me that the readers of an article about a book that has sold into the millions deserve to hear directly from experts such as Dyer, Winfrey, and Tolle about what makes the book "tick", as well as hearing from expert Theologians and folks akin to yourself as to why it is nothing more than "Satanic psychobabble". ] (]) 15:58, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:1) please stop making assertions about who i am and what i believe. ]
:2) we are an encyclopedia and we present the subject as an encyclopedia would. if people come here expecting something else, they will still find an encyclopedia. if they are disappointed because they wanted something other than an encyclopedia when they came to Misplaced Pages the 💕, oh well, hopefully they know how to google. -- ] 16:06, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::You have insisted on including the terms "psychbabble" and "Satanic" in the article's lead. That is a mere point of fact, and not meant to be an attack. Misplaced Pages, by its nature, is far more than Britannica ever was. Britannica only treated nearly all subjects very "sparsley", if for no other reason, simply due to lack of space. One definition of an encyclopedia is "a well-rounded view". Not only an "academic-mainstream view". It seems to me that Misplaced Pages has enough room to represent more views than Britannica ever did. So are you going to attempt to delete the views of the experts I listed then? ] (]) 16:17, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::"psychbabble" and "Satanic" are sourced by third party Miller as significant views of the book by major populations. thats what we present.
::: wikipedia is ] or have ].
:::If your involvement in with the subject creates aw ] you should seek out other subjects where you do not have the conflict. Misplaced Pages is big and there are lots of articles that need help where you can edit all day long without worrying touching subjects that you cannot approach with the required perspective.-- ] 16:26, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::::So you would prefer to only represent the "critical" view in the article and no other. That is apparently your take on what a "well rounded view" should be, one that is entirely critical in this case, no? You would censor out the experts who are not critical, is that correct? And you would attempt to drive away anyone who did not agree with you, no? On the one hand you say you want "experts" to be represented, but then you are apparently saying that only critical experts may be represented, no? ] (]) 22:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::if the ]. -- ] 22:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
You mean "that is what we ''only'' present", not "what we present ''as well''", no? ] (]) 22:14, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::::::I think so.
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:::::Given the paucity of third party coverage given and used in the article, we have to make some estimates, but roughly seems to me that the coverage is 1) popular with the New Age masses, 2) rejected by Christians as anti-biblical at best and satanic at worst 3) dismissed by academics as psychobabble, 4) New age speaker home industry cash cow (see 1) 5) long-running litigious copyright fight (see 4) 6) splintering into "just unique enough" derivatives or MyTakeOnACIM to keep 4 in business.
:::::What am I missing?-- ] 22:25, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
So, in your view, Misplaced Pages is supposed to be the "arbiter of the ''correct'', supposedly mainstream academic view". A place where only the majority voice is heard, and all others censored. If for example, it were one century ago, when the mainstream view was that outer space is filled with a material called "ether", and anyone published a theory that outer space was pure vacuum, then a Misplaced Pages of that day would have refused to let the "vacuum scientist" be heard directly, no? ] (]) 22:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:Its not my view, it is policy: ]. So yes we present the current mainstream academic views and as they change, if they do, the article content changes to reflect them. ] or ] fighting for ]<sup>TM</sup>-- ] 22:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::So you believe that it would have been "correct" Misplaced Pages policy to "censor out the vacuum scientist." What about ] which states that, "Misplaced Pages articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority ''and significant minority views'' that have appeared in those sources are covered.", and on the same page that you referred to: ]? Would the views of the adherents of a New Religious Movement such as ACIM, not represent a ''significant minority view'' in an article about that movement's primary study book? ] (]) 23:20, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::yes, until the vacuum scientist had published his papers and convinced a significant portion of the mainstream scientists that he was on the right track and not a looney, he would not be covered as anything other than a curiosity. We dont make any effort to predict what is going to turn out to be true and what is going to turn out pure crap, we just follow what the mainstream has agreed has actually been convincingly demonstrated. -- ] 23:33, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::One thing I can say with fair certainty, Britannica's tone was always "respectful" (read NPOV) towards all subject matters. You will never find a Britannica article with loaded words like "Psychobabble" in the leads of any of their articles. ] (]) 23:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::britanica had better things to do than cover anything that it might have called "psychobabble" in the lead.-- ] 23:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::::So you are saying that even in a Misplaced Pages article specifically about a given New Religious Movement (NRM), the Misplaced Pages readership ought to be "protected" (by editors such as yourself) from actually getting to read the uncensored views of that NRM's adherents, even if such adherents have published reliable sources on these views? 23:46, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::If people want to find out what a new religious movement has to say about themselves, they should google the new religious movement's home page. If they come to Misplaced Pages, the 💕, they should find encyclopedic coverage dont you think? -- ] 23:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
::::::For the last 10 years (since the article was first created), this article has stood with both the critical and the adherent's views being presented, side by side, as many other such articles in Misplaced Pages are still written to this day. Apparently you are of the opinion that this was 10 years of "error". Since you arrived at the article last summer, you have apparently intended to rewrite the article so that it explained primarily your view (which you believe is the "mainstream-academic" view), that ACIM is essentially nothing but "psychobabble", and would be slanted heavily against, if even permitting, any other views. If these are the new policies in Misplaced Pages, then I stand humbly corrected. If not, then it is my aim to seek out a consultation from a mutually respected neutral third party on this question. Thanks, ] (]) 02:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::::What third party sources haven't been included? -- ] 02:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
::::::::Obviously you are quite sincere in your belief that such is Misplaced Pages policy. I too feel sincere in my understanding of Misplaced Pages policy. It would seem to me that one (or perhaps both) of us may need a little "tweaking" of our understanding of Misplaced Pages policy. As such, it is my aim to ask for a comment on these questions from a mutually respected third-party person from Misplaced Pages. (Good night from America) Thanks, ] (]) 03:17, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes, I am quite sincere that there are policies that '''we present what the reliable third parties say:''' ] / ] / ] / ] / ] / ]. I am not sure where you got the idea that there are policies that say otherwise.-- ] 03:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

== Notification: RfC on Game of Thrones and chapter-to-episode statements ==

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If any of you wish to make a statement on this matter, you are welcome to do so and your contribution would be greatly appreciated. If any of you would prefer to stay away from this dispute, I think we can all get that too. ] (]) 16:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

== relating conspiracies ==

how many of relating conspiracies have credible sources for aliens:
Alleged UFO-related entities
Energy beings
Grey aliens
Insectoids
Little green men
Nordic aliens
Reptilians

Projects has a list:
Project Sign (1948)
Estimate of the Situation
Project Grudge (1949)
Flying Saucer Working Party (1950)
Project Magnet (1950–1962)
Project Blue Book (1952–1970)
Robertson Panel (1953)
Condon Report (1966–1968)
Institute 22 (1978–?)
Project Condign (1997–2000)
Identification studies of UFOs
List of notable studies in ufology

Thus the documents themselves should be included somewhere if these are as well. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:05, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::''"how many of relating conspiracies have credible sources for aliens:"'' uh none. ever. anywhere.
::''"Thus the documents themselves should be included somewhere"'' you must ]. -- ] 04:09, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

''"uh none. ever. anywhere."'' Tripod? They sell them in the Los Angeles Times in the Pasadena are near Jet Propulsion Labratories. Highlights of the advertisement include the cyrogenics for freezing. So you are not credible or the Los Angeles Times isnt. I personally choose them over you.

Heres webhosting that you say ive mistaben wikipedia for (anyone can create an incident : https://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings


== Seasons' Greetings ==
Maybe the CIA pays you to remove such documentation that maybe seen as "neutral" and for your to maintain an opinionated page. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:30, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::boy, do I need to buy stock in tinfoil! -- ] 04:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
''"boy, do I need to buy stock in tinfoil!"''
Cell phones don't need tinfoil. Get a new IP address. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
So you admit you're a spirit using a cellphone Haha Don't spend all your time editing wikipedia pages. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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You accused me of being a meat puppet . Please strike it. That is way over the top. ] (]) 13:38, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:If you start putting forth positions that show independent basis for thought and not just that we should succumb and acquiesce to the paid PR's desires, then I will. -- ] 17:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
::I will ask you one more time. Then I will take you to ANI. This is offensive. I am nobody's fucking tool. ] (]) 17:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
:::So here is the one more time - please strike your comment. It is '''very''' offensive to me and you have no evidence that i am a meatpuppet. If your accusation is in good faith then take me to ]. Otherwise, withdraw it. ] (]) 17:25, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
::::if you dont want to be accused of carrying on the same crusade as chopra's paid PR flacky then you shouldnt specifically identify your goal as promoting the same crusade as chopras PR flacky. -- ] 02:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
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