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== Open peer review ==
==Barnstar!==
] While you are asleep on your Wikibreak I, ], award you this Original Barnstar to let you know that your hard work and pictures on Lithuania-related topics are very much appreciated. ] 07:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
:No of course I don't. I welcome anybody's constructive edits (even the minor or silly ones). The more the better! ] 17:49, 5 February 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for forking the page ]. ] (]) 11:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
==Ponowna próba==
Wymazania informacji o zbrodniach popełnionych przez żółnierzy niemieckich podczas Kampanii Wrześniowej, tym razem w artykule:
http://en.wikipedia.org/German_17th_Infantry_Division
--] 22:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


==Klaipėda Revolt== == Help ==
Of course I don't mind you taggingand editing the article. ] 18:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


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== Poloniation & Russophobia. ==
I have already explained in the edit comment to ]: ] is immediately relevant to the '''sentence''' where it is mentioned. If you cannot read carefully, I cannot help you, sorry. ] ] 07:48, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


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== Vitovt ==
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Ok, Volosatik. You do not like when Vitovt is called by his original name. Fine, we can leave Vytautas before we discuss it. But why the hell you delete everything esle? Maybe you left some explanation?


On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 22:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
==Polish-Lithuanian War==
Thank you in concurring with me that the "war" took place, instead of "raged". Since I was wrong about my other edits and need sources, can you give me your sources for removing "raged". After all it was in the article to begin with. And by the way, do you happen to know the sources for the information in the article. Have the sources, as they stand now, come from all sides of the conflict? Thank you in advance, and counting on your impartiality. ] 02:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


== Where are you? ==
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Hello, and I think you will be interested in this new initiative to gather together people interested in the three Baltic States. It is now in the development stages so your input is welcome. Please share your mind and take an active role in this new notice board. ] 04:07, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi Lysy, I just want to say that you are missed here on Misplaced Pages. Hope you are OK and hope to see you back. I know, trolls are a real pain in the ..., but surely you can stand them. Life is full of trolls, and yet we live it. ] (]) 04:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
==Maskhadov==
Before questioning something, please take an effort to do a simple google test. The very first result the google gives to "Maskhadov Vilnius tower" string is the article at eng.kavkaz.memo.ru from which I am quoting for you:
:''Maskhadov commanded a platoon in 1972-78. He next was a battery commander and chief of staff of a battalion in the Far East. In 1981-86 he served in Szeged, Hungary, with the Southern Group of Troops and then from 1986 in the Baltic Military District, first as commander of a self-propelled artillery regiment and from the autumn of 1990 as chief of staff of missile and artillery forces of the Vilnius, Lithuania, garrison and deputy commander of the 7th division. In January 1991 Aslan took part in the "Vilnius events" (the seizure of the television tower by Soviet troops).''
Of course he became a "freedom fighter" later. But that's a different story. --] 07:49, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


== polonized vs de-germanized at recovered territories article ==
==Trollish rant==
odpierdal się jebany skurwysynu od porównywania AK do UPA, jebany faszysto !!!!!!!!!!!!!! {{unsigned|217.96.248.99}}
:], I wonder?. --] 21:02, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, I always feel flattered by this type of attacks. It confirms that I'm doing the right things. --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 10:23, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
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Please excuse my revert, but Polonized fits much better. De-Germanisation implies to recreate the state before the Germanization (11th century), which was certainly not the case. The territories rather underwent Polonization: everything changed Polish (names, people, etc pp). Regards ] (]) 20:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
==Historic names==
Sorry you needed to go on break before you could tell me why you feel the Lithuanian town of ], needs to have its Polish name in the English Misplaced Pages. Especially since there is a Polish article about the town, which links to the English article (it clearly enables the user to know the name in Polish, if that's a necessity). ] 23:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


==FYI==
:Well, because it's the historic name of the town of the Commonwealth. Why does it bother you ? --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 08:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
You were mentioned and thanked by Greg in his final remark (I just found about it today by accident). Read his post ].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 20:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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p.s. I always though the above obscenity, added by the ranting troll, od....dol się, ended in dol, not dal. Did the fool spell it correctly? I could swear that a good friend of mine from Płock, used dol not dal.
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== Fed. of Expellees ==
:I'm having problems staying on my wikibreak. I'll need to try harder. As for the "dol" you are right. I don't know about the US, but children are quite careless in PL nowadays. --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 08:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


Hey,
==UPA==
dlaczego Pan z premedytacją sugeruje jakieś domniemane pojednanie AK i UPA, proszę przedstawić jakieś wiarygodne informacje nt., np. Zarządu AK, zdjęcia oficialne wystąpienia wladz AK, to jest niedopuszczlane co Pan robi, i obraźliwe dla kombatantów AK !!!!
24 February 2006 (UTC)
:Od kiedy pojednanie jest obraźliwe ? Link do przykladowej informacji podany jest w artykule. Przeformulowalem ten paragraf, zeby nie sugerowal, ze takie pojednania maja obecnie oficjalny charakter. --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 07:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


I reverted two of your edits in the ] article. The Spiegel story was reflected differently by ''Polska'' and ''FAZ'' which is now sourced and in the "federation today" section, so the other paragraph you inserted (unintentionally) turned out to be be an unsourced POV fork. The second edit I reverted was about the Nazi Soviet population transfers. You are right that the Soviet Union did not occupy the Baltic states immediately after the pact and subsequent invasion of Poland, yet the Molotov Ribbentrop pact had defined the areas which were to be Soviet/Nazi controlled without leaving a territorial buffer. The "evacuation" of the Baltic Germans was made in apprehension of the Soviet take-over and only from those parts "assigned" (by Hitler/Ribbentrop and Stalin/Molotov) to the Soviet Union. The exact time of the actual military take-over was thereby unimportant. I hope you see my rationale, regards ] (]) 10:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
:: a czy jest coś więcej poza tym 1 (JEDNYM) artykulem we Wprost ?, bo z treści postu wnoszę, że są jakieś jeszcze inne indywidualne pojednania (proszę o zacytowanie), bo mam wrażenie, że robi Pan sobie hucpę z tego "pojednania" jeśli kiedykolwiek do niego dojdzie! (wszak ludzie odchodzą i niewielu ich pozostaje). Od razu odpowiem że nie interesują mnie żadne prywatne uroczystości na prywatnym terenie. Sugeruje Pan również że są jakieś wnioski dotyczące budowy pomników upowców oraz próby oficialnych wspólnych uroczystości, proszę wskazać mi takie wydarzenia, wnioski, postulaty środowisk kombatanckich. Odnoszę wrażenie że nie jest Pan kombatantem a treść artykulu ma z grubsza inne przeslanie niż tylko "neutralna informacja" i byc może ma charakter osobistej wypowiedzi.
::07:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


:Yes, it is an interesting issue (though sort of a "dark" kind of interesting ...). Regarding the Baltic German and related resettlements, that is is covered in ], but not in great detail. I recently developed ], covering (at least partially) their temporary resettlement and the contemporary expulsions/deportations/murder of resident Poles and Jews. Also there are articles on the ] themselves and the ], which for sure could need an expansion. So if you got time and sources .... Regards ] (]) 07:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Nie jestem kombatantem, sądze, że Pani też nie jest i to raczej w Pani działaniach wyczuwam zabarwienie osobistą nienawiścią i szowinizmem. Proszę sprawdzić historię artykułu, a zobaczy Pani, że paragraf, który mi Pani przypisuje nie jest mojego autorstwa. Jeśli chodzi o więcej przykładów, to nie trzeba daleko szukać, wystarczy użyć google. Gorąco zachęcam Panią do samodzielnych poszukiwań. Podaje przykłady kolejnych artykułów na ten temat , . --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 08:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


==Proposed deletion of Tamka==
:::: przecież ten artykul nie dotyczy w zaden sposób tego o czym wy piszecie, ja również zachęcam do szukanie w googlach linków, napewno znajdziecie tam kontakt do Zarządu Glownego AK w Warszawie i rzecznika prasowego tego stowarzyszenia, Jeśli tak bardzi zależy panu na pojednaniu z grabażami Polski bardzo proszę utworzyć artykul np. LYSY pojednanie z UPA, zachęcam !
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:Hi Lysy, can you provide any reference supporting why this street is more historically signifigant than any other in warsaw, without sources to support it's importance, it's still potentially a deletion candidate. ] (]) 18:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
==An article==
Hello. As someone who is interested in the history of these areas I thought you might want to check the ] (former name: Rainiai massacre) article and as well the discussion in the talk page about the article's naming. ] 13:56, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


== ] ==
==Ukrainian articles==
Regarding I hope it is not a sarcastic disaproval of I did just before that.


Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced ]: ''']'''. Our ] requires that all content be ] to a ]. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --] (]) 00:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Now, to UPA, this would be one of the most difficult articles to bring anywhere close to the encyclopedic standards. Polish, Soviet and Ukrainian scholarship on this topic should all be taken with strong skepticism but other than these three, there is almost nothing left to consider. If you could bring in some scrutinized opinions of solid Polish scholars, that could certainly help. And thanks for guarding this and other related articles from the extremists. --] 21:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


== brutal mass murder ==
==UPA==
Panie LYSY proszę nie porównywać AK do UPA !!!! i nie prowokować agresji na forum , żadne wspólne uroczystości, żadnych pomników stawianych bandytom z UPA w Polsce nie było i nie będzie, proszę nie wypisywać treści które są dla Polaków obraźliwie, nie obchodzi mnie to że w Kanadzie bandyci Z UPA obchodzą swoje uroczystości i organizują marsze, i proszę uważać na to co Pan pisze !, bo inaczej ktoś może panu kark skręcić albo zabije was zwykły ludzki śmiech !!! ]...]
24 luty 2006, 08:50 {{unsigned|217.96.248.99}}


All murder is brutal, no? It's redundant and adds undue weight. The first sentence of the paragraph says its ethnic cleansing. Would "deadly aggression" not encompass not only the death but all actions that took place? Murder wasn't the only thing happening.--''']''' <small>(])</small> 08:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:: odnośnie tego pana IRPENa, ma racje , niech ktoś zbierze opinie uczniów szkół z woj. podkarpackiego i zbada ich percepcję na wydarzenia z lat 1939-47, i co myślą o ukraińcach: 9 wrzesien 1939 "pogrzeby polski" z udzialem popów, ukraińskiej gawiedzi i wojska niemieckiego, 28 kwietna 1943 powstanie SS Galizien, przemarsze i msze ukrainskich ochodników do SS w Sanoku, Lesku ...., 1946-1947 msze w cerkwiach i święcenia siekier, tasaków na wojne z polskimi sąsiadami ... , {{unsigned|217.96.248.99}}


''"...the brutality of the UPA there is unparalleled in the 20th century in Europe"'' how can you honestly say that?
Now that the troll is blocked, I removed part of his "message". Whoever, pls use English. --] 21:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)


== Double Memory ==
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Your deletion in ] of Double Memory section is based on an invalid assumption that there was consensus for removal. Please re-read the talk section. The material is verified in a very reliable source. Please do not remove it again without discussion. ] (]) 01:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
==Image==
Ahhh, it's so cool you have uploaded ]. Thanks, it made my day! But would you mind if I cropped it a little? ] 20:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, I was thinking that I might use the pic to say thank you or something similar (you know, instead of a formal barnstar). Polish names for towns are annoying as hell but I grew to ignore them. I realized that they don't really matter much, because it is only one word in the whole article. However, it is one very annoying word. Why? Because it indirectly implies that Lithuania was Polish and that Polish had control over Lithuania and that it still has some claims over it and some other stupid stuff. It's like feeling that there is nothing really Lithuanian under this sun. There was somewhere this discussion when Zivibundas (what's the right spelling?) was still around. So my conclusion is: is it annoying? Oh, yes. Is it important? Only for Poles and Lithuanians. Does it matter? No. ] 21:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
::I know and I understand. And actually sometimes it is very useful, when say I am looking for some town and I don't know local/English name. However, one thing I don't understand is when inside the articles wikilinks refer to Polish or Russian or whatever names, and not the current one. It's not only Vilnius/Vilna/Wilno/etc. but also other smaller towns. The most recent example I remeber, was ] was named in Polish in some article about history of 1939-1945. That I don't understand other than outbreak of nationalism. ] 22:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
:::Let me correct myself, or the editor did not know the Lithuanian name. But I have seen quite a few edits were a user would remove Lithuanian name and put in Polish. Sometimes in piped links. ] 22:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
::::The result of Panevezys debate: 3700 words were written over 1 word.... ] 17:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
:::::Good summary. --<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 16:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


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==FYI==
Did I misunderstand that there was an agreement, that Lithuanian cities that had not been part of Poland 1918-1939, would not have a Polish name placed in the lead (especially ones with links to their respective language articles), or was this only with Balcer and not with Lysy. And that if there was an event or historical connection to Germany, Poland, or Russia, etc., it would be placed in the article, if appropriate. What requires Taurage to have it's Polish name included in the lead? ] 16:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
]. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


==Komański, Siekierka==
:No, Lysy believes that it's usfeul to have alternative names mentioned for places that shared Polish and Lithuanian history, not only after WW1 but also earlier. Lysy understands that this may be irritating for some who either were taught that these places had only Lithuanian names or those who for whatever reason prefer to present a single-sided view of the history. Lysy believes that this irriatation is a price worth paying for presenting a wider view, for undestanding, and respecting different POVs. Lysy also is against removing useful information for the sole purpose of meeting someone's agenda. Lysy does not think that mentioning the alternative names Polish implies that these places were, are or should be Polish. They are useful for people encountering Polish forms of the names in English language texts and the article's lead is perfect place for this. --]<sup>]</sup> 18:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
O co chodzi? Przecież to źródło oparte na zeznaniach świadków wydarzeń opublikowanych w ]. Na ich książki powołuje się np. Motyka w Ukraińskiej partyzantce. Jeśli masz jakieś do nich zastrzeżenia to powiedz jakie a nie usuwaj bez słowa ich jako źródła. Są na pewno dobrym źródłem bo opartym bezpośrednio na świadkach.--] (]) 09:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


:Jak sobie wyobrażasz badania obu stron w obecnej sytuacji na Ukrainie w ogóle negowane są zbrodnie? Kto w nich by uczestniczył nacjonaliści z Tarnopola którzy mają tam 35% poparcia i protestowali przeciw Hucie Pieniackiej? Siekierka i Komański są pionierami w tej kwestii, ale to nie przyczyna by ich negować. Póki nie ma lepszych opracowań, należy się na nich oprzeć, tak jak Motyka. Siemaszko też była krytykowana za 60 tys na Wołyniu itd. a obecnie ta liczba jest uznana powszechnie. Weź też pod uwagę że większość ukraińskich historyków tak i jak rosyjskich wybiela swoich. Pozdrawiam serdecznie--] (]) 20:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Understood, does Lysy think a city like Lublin should have its Lithuanian name in the lead of the article for the same reasons mentioned by Lysy above? Does Lysy agree that there is a historical connection between Lublin and Lithuania visa vis the ]? Is Lysy prepared to add the Lithuanian name, ''Liublinas'' to the lead in the article in en-Wiki, in order to'' present a wider view, for understanding, and respecting different POVs''. ] 20:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


== FAR of ] ==
:Personally, I don't mind, but practically, how many English language sources do you know, where "Liublinas" ? Another question: historically, in what period was "Liublinas" name in use in Poland instead or along with "Lublin" ? I think you're missing the point. --]<sup>]</sup> 21:04, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


I have nominated ] for ] due to a number of, hopefully, resolvable issues that exist in the article. --] (]) 02:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
==Lysy in the ''Third Person''==
: May I ask why you undid my edit to the article? It was made in good faith to remove material that failed with regards to 1c of the feature article criteria and I suspect POV. In the future please do not reinsert material unless cited. --] (]) 13:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
::I can understand your reservation but the content was largely uncited and didn't appear to make a whole lot of sense. This being said, I certain want to work cooperatively in improving the article, or moreso maintaining its FA level. If my future edits step on any toes please let me know. --] (]) 16:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


: Polish civilian per cent casualties - OK, "about" is good. However, if you have no exact figures, we can rely on good ref in World_War_II_casualties. ] (]) 17:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Lysy, I don't ever want you to think that I don't like you, so I'm asking if you want to be addressed in the third person. Lysy used the third person in his above edit at 18:13 4 March 2006, repeatedly. This is why I'm asking. Besides that, I would like to read more about the revolt against Smetona in Taurage, in 1927. Where can I find it?


== Mediation ==
:I don't think that you don't like me :-) You started addressing me in the third person first, , I'm not sure why. As for the revolt, I've found it mentioned in Jerzy Ochmański's "Historia Litwy", Ossolineum 1990, page 292. He only mentions that the pro-democratic revolt in Taurage was very soon pacified. He does not say more about what happened to the rebels, does not mention any victims etc. I may try to find more on it for you tomorrow if this is interesting. As to your Lublin example, I really think it's missed. There were areas in Lithuania where ppl spoke Polish but not the other way round. There's nothing wrong or offensive in admitting this. On the other hand, there were areas of Poland where people spoke German and I don't think anyone takes offence that "]", "]" or "]" etc. are mentioned in the leads of the articles about these towns, even if they belonged to Poland during interbellum (as Taurage belonged to Lithuania). Is this a problem for you ? --]<sup>]</sup> 22:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


A mediation case has been opened regarding the Polish-Ukranian WWII dispute. I have picked up that case. Here's the link:
I have seen many examples, of Poles being ''bothered'' with German names being addded to geographical locations, and ''upset'' with the deletion of Polish names from others, in the short time I've participated in Misplaced Pages. As I've said before, the easiest solution is a case by case basis. I've come to the conclusion that the portions of Lithuania, or Belarusia, or Ukraine that were part of Poland during the II Rzecpospolita, can have an inclusion of its Polish name. I'm not so sure that Polish was as widely spoken in the hinterlands of Lithuania as you might think. Especially amonst the common people. I have spent lots of time in Poland and been to Lithuania too. It amazes me how the very young have lost the ability to communicate in Russian, in a rather short time. As for you adding ''"Yiddish"'', in the lead of the Panevezys article, it speaks lots about where you are coming from. I don't think it's possible to communicate very well in Panevezys in Yiddish today. A pity, my Yiddish, is a lot better than my Hebrew. ] 14:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC) p.s. the Tsar Alexander's stay in Taurage in 1807, long, short, trivial, or important?


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:You're certainly right that Poles are often upset by German names of Polish locations. While I can understand there is a number of different reasons for this (including education, propaganda and historic experiences), I don't think this is something that is good or should be encouraged. Poles should understand, that historically Poland was a multi-national country, and that the notion of "nationality" as we know it today, did not exist in 17th century or earlier. Although the fact that someone spoke German did not make him "anti-Polish". As I understand it, what generally mattered was usually not the language, ethnic origin or religion (although it's easy to find counterexamples) but what we would today call "citizenship". This of course changed with the partitions and later. So, what I'm trying to say is that I consider looking at whole history from the perspective of 19th or 20th century nationalisms is a major mistake and source of misunderstanding. Keep in mind, that when the nationalisms erupted in the end of 19th century, much of the history was rewritten to suit individual agendas and this of course influenced the perception of our parents or grandparents. We can be wiser than that.


If you choose not to participate, please tell me on my talk page. Thanks! :-) ] (]) 00:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:As to more specific issues: You doubt that Polish was widely used in Lithuania. Let me ask you a question then: If not Polish, what language was used by the common people ? was it Lithuanian ? No, it was Ruthenian. The upper class however increasingly used Polish. How do you think Taurage was called in the times of Radziwill ? What language did the Radziwills speak ? Polish. It's not that I think that it something to be proud or be ashamed of. The fact is it were the elites that decided on the names of their towns and villages, not the common people (regardless of whether they used Ruthenian or Lithuanian).


==Unreferenced BLPs==
:Similarly to you, I'm (unpleasantly) surprised by how quick the people lost their ability to communicate in Russian, both in Poland and Lithuania.
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# ] - <small>{{findsources|Ludwik Dorn}}</small>
:To summarise, I believe that there's nothing wrong in admitting that in this part of Europe the collonisation moved eastwards, and that German culture influenced Poland, similarly to Polish culture influencing Lithuania, Ruthenia or Ukraine. It's the common heritage, that people in each of the countries can be proud of instead of trying to denying it. --]<sup>]</sup> 15:50, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
# ] - <small>{{findsources|Orest Subtelny}}</small>
# ] - <small>{{findsources|Ihor Ilyushin}}</small>
Thanks!--] (]) 21:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


== ] ==
:Of course it's not possible to communicate in Yiddish or Polish in Panevezys, but these names can be encountered in the articles about the town's history.


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:As for Alexander's stay in Taurage, I'll investigate it further. If it was not notable, I'd move it to "trivia" section. Otherwise, I'd expand it a little to explain its importance. You could help, too :-) --]<sup>]</sup> 15:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


==Jan Dzierzon==
Lysy, Lysy what's going on here! You included that Alexander I stayed in Taurage, not in the trivia part, but in the main article. Now you'll ''investigate it further'', after my questioning its relevance or significance. You included the Yiddish name for Panevezys in the lead, after some consensus was reached avoiding these types of provocations (someone took it out later, perhaps it was you). ''Of course it's not possible to communicate in Yiddish or Polish in Panevezys'', so are we looking for fairness, or a provocation from you? Getting back to more serious points in our discussion. The common people in Lithuania, spoke Lithuanian, not Ruthenian. I'm speaking now of Lithuania itself, and not its Eastern territories, which were vast. Somehow you and others think that, these common people couldn't express themselves geographically. That until their polonized Radvilai/Radziwillczycy, named a town, it didn't have a name? Or maybe that until the Radziwills told them a name for a bird, it too, didn't have a name? Please take the time to look at the history of the Lithuanian language linguinstically and philologically, before making these sweeping generalizations. ] 01:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


Imie i nazwisko Dzierzona zostalo zmieniona na Johann Dzierzon, to jest pisownia niemiecka. Britanica podaje Jan Dzierżoń (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/175400/Jan-Dzierzon) i tak powinno byc. Rowniez tu (http://bees.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=bees;idno=5017629) angielskie tlumaczenie pracy Dzierzona podaje Dzierżon, Jan. Czy skontaktowales sie z museum w Kluczborku, albo przeczytales dowody i fotokopie w podanych pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka? Pomijanie zrodel polskich jest niedopuszczalne. Ci ktorzy chca zmieniac artykul powinni uznac wage zrodel polskich wage a nie lawirowac na drugorzednych przekladach i niepelnych zrodlach. Podane tez sa wspolczesne artykuly w prasie polskiej i napisane przez Polakow. Trzeba je wniesc do tekstu. Niech chociaz bedzie widoczne ze spoleczenstwo polskie ma silne zdanie na ten temat. Podaje Ci e-mail jezeli chcesz powaznie pracowac bez udzialu szpiegow: erudra@hotmail.com. --Soujdspo (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:You're overestimating my desire to provoke you :-) As for alternative names in the lead of Panevezys, I maintain my position, that all reasonable names used thoughout history should be mentioned. I only did not insist on keeping the Polish names as I understood Polish irritates you for some reason and I would not like to get involved in a revert war over this as probaly both of us could use the time more productive. I think Balcer solved it gently by moving the Polish name off the lead. As for Yiddish, firstly the town was a centre of Yiddish culture and secondly, the latinised Yiddish name is frequently being used in English language literature of the town. Is this offensive as well as the Polish name ?
:For Alexander's stay in Taurage in 1807, I think it's certainly not less notable than the other episodes mentioned in the history of this, otherwise relatively small town. I've expanded the context of his stay there a bit. Again, the article is still a stub and I'd like to encourage you to add some information there, too.
:Back to out language discussion: I'm not suggesting that the origin of the name is Polish. I'd rather expect it to be German, or Lithuanian or a mixture, although in Polish it would also make sense ("the horns of a taur"). I'm not trying to speculate into this, though. What I was trying to say, is that Radziwills did not speak Lithuanian, therefore at least for a certain period of history the Polish name was used. I'm not sure when the Lithuanian form was firt mentioned. Since you mentioned "Lithuania itself", which I believe you mean to be "Lithuania proper", do you know when this term was born ? --]<sup>]</sup> 17:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


Did it ever occur to you that the interaction between Poland and Lithuania brought elements of Lithuanian culture and language to Poland (oprócz chłodnika litewskiego), instead of it being all one sided? Think about it for a moment. And besides providing two of Poland's greatest leaders Władysław II, and Piłsudski, the two nations shared more than divided them, and the perception amongst Lithuanians was and is, that Poles and worse, Polonized Lithuanians, (like the Radziwills), held them as a "lesser" partner. As I told Halibutt recently, these are the reasons that the concept of "Between the Seas", the ''dream'' of the Marshall, didn't work out. This, was much, much more the reason than the bolsheviks or hiterism, that prevented this dream from flourishing and comming true.
Lysy, do yourself, and your credibility a favor, and avoid adding information like 80% of Taurage was destroyed by the nazis. You should have known its nonsense, and not included it. It implies that once you are caught with "your hand in the cookie jar", you can't be trusted around cookies. All joking aside, I have been receiving contacts (emails), from different parts of the world, e.g., U.K., Belgium, France, as well as some more traditional neighbors of Poland, all concerning the behavior of one particular Polish editor (pointless to name, but you know very well who they mean). I honestly think that he does Poland's struggle for dignity and justice, a great disservice and a group should ask him to "cool it a bit". Even though its a "free Misplaced Pages", does the attitude and information provided by this editor help Poland or hurt Poland? Just a thought. ] 02:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


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:Yes, you are right about the Lithuanian perception of Poland. I'm very much aware of this as I have quite some Lithuanian friends and we've emptied many bottles over such issues. During my first visit to Lithuania I've been quite surprised to learn this attitude, as I naively assumed that "Poles and Lithuanians are brothers" etc. while then I've found that in Lithuanian perception Poland was almost an enemy. This is hopefully changing now, most if not all Poles that I know have respect for Lithuania and I strongly believe in the potential to build much better mutual relationship. So far most of the prejudices remain on the Lithuanian side in my opinion, and given the history, this is understandable. You're also right about the probably unfortunate fact that Poles held Lithuanians as a lesser partner, even in the interbellum period, but the fact also is that Lithuania was a lesser partner then. Lithuanians IMO were paranoid about Polish domination only to learn soon what a real totalitarian domination meant.
:Thanks for the advice about the 80% damage. I usually check at least 2 sources if some information is otherwise unknown to me, this time I did not and it immediately fired back. I'm not saying that 80% of the town was destroyed by the Nazis or not. I simply cannot easily verify this information and it seems doubtful, therefore I should have not put it into the article in the fist place. You're right that this damages credibility unfortunately. As for the fighters that you've mentioned, every "nation" has them. I think it will cool down with time, but then the new ones will come. BTW, do you know that every time my wikipedia home page was vandalised, it was done by Polish nationalists ? --]<sup>]</sup> 11:18, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


Bierz zawsze pod uwage ze: 1) w okresie Bismarck'a zniemczano imiona celowo 2) Poszukiwania liczbowe zapisu imion na internecie sa falszywka - autorzy wtedy i dzisiaj powtarzaja to co zostalo zniemczone i wprowadzone w pismie, clowo, przez nieuwage lub niewiedze. Jedyna droga czy jego imie powinno byc pisane Jahann czy Jan jest stwierdzenie ze Dzierzon uwazal sie za Polaka i kultywowal polskos, i tak jest zgodnie z dokumentami opisanymi w pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka etc. --Soujdspo (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:Actually I did not know this, however I did notice that some could not spell properly. Two points, first Lithuania was not a lesser partner in the interbellum, because it chose not to be a partner at all. Secondly, although I doubt you'll agree with this, but as to the idea that ''Lithuanians IMO were paranoid about Polish domination'', I should think no less than Poles were paranoid about German or Russian domination. ] 04:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
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== Reviewer ==
::Right, I'd disagree. The Polish "oppression" of Lithuanians in 1920s and 1930s were nothing compared to what Germans and Russians did to that country after 1939. This said I'm not trying to glorify Poland of the 1930s. --]<sup>]</sup> 07:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


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Love your idea of CANAPPUS, if you have time, can you look at the following two articles, You probably do not have extensive knowledge on the subject, but even a simple understanding of English shows a glaring POV problem in these articles. The author of the article does not like my revisions of the article. Perhaps a clearer head such as yours can help out the topics.


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:I have to second that, though the nickname can give some misconceptions ;-). ] 21:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


Regarding to ]. The big section of syntax seems out of place, is it meant to be there? I didn't notice it in the source (but only glanced briefly). An IP is enquiring on the talk page.--] (]) 06:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Only if you use Ł instead of L, followed by ...ysy. ] 23:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


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neither do I, CANNAPUS is some idea we came up with on my userpage Ksenon and Dr. Dan. Can I get some help on the ] page, it has gotten out of control and he has started to troll and flame me considerably, it would be nice to have someone who cannot be blamed of direct involvement to talk on the article.
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== ] ==
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==Here We Go Again==


== ] activity ==
Lysy, in regards to your edit summary concerning Ukmerge, and "passion" and "constructiveness". Two points: First consistency, if I'm going to remove the Polish name from one city, why would I not from another? Or in German for that matter. Secondly, some good comes out of it, because you begin to add information in the article that wasn't there before, albeit usually more polocentric than not. BTW, I don't object, but its a legitimate observation.


Hi. I am conducting another activity check for ]. It seems to me that you are "semi-active". Feel free to change your status ] as soon as you make 10 or more edits on Poland-related articles per month! --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Now to the more important aspect of my deletions. I have stated that I will not remove the Polish names of geographical locations in present-day Lithuania, held by the II Rzeczpospolita 1918-1939. I have also stated, that putting these names in the ''leads'' of the articles about Lithuanian towns, not part of Poland in the interbellum, is particularly unnecessary and questionable, especially when there is a link in Polish, German, or any other language for that matter. I have further stated that if you need to know the Polish name for Rome, go to the article and find the Polish link, and boom there's Rzym. Lastly, if there is some truly revelevant information concerning Poland or some other country, it can and should be incorporated into the article. Perhaps with a little less emphasis on trivia. Frankly, I thought this was more or less agreed to and resolved. At least between Balcer, you, and I. ] 15:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


== ''Monitor.'' WikiProject Poland Newsletter: Issue 1 (April 2011) ==
==Please==
Look in the article ] a tag haas been made on it suggesting it isn't neutral.
Explanation was given as :
''Contemporary Poland, before it brought in German settlers to urbanize it, could boast little more than a series of fortified cragie lumps with some mud-huts around them.''
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== Lithuania's GDP ==
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== Belzec ==
Hi Lysy. I see that you reverted my edits to ] regarding 46% vs 56% of the European average in terms of GDP. According to the article ], Lithuania has a (projected) GDP of US$15,657 in 2006 (see ). The EU average GDP is $28,114 in 2006. By mathematical calculation, $15,657 is 55.7% of the EU average GDP - hence, rounded off, Lithuania's GDD per capita is at 56% of the EU average. In fact, Latvia is the only country under 50% of the EU average at the moment. Thanks, ]] ''']''' ] 10:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC}


Dear Sir,
==Raudonė==
Thank you for your fotos. Unfortunatly there is no inscribtion, and so it is not clear, what is to be seen - for example here: Datei:PL Belzec extermination camp 3.jpg


And what do you think about this one: Datei:PL Belzec extermination camp 10.jpg|11) Isn't it redundant and without any valuable information? --] (]) 18:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC) (=Holgerjan)
Hi Lysy, I saw today that you had added info, concerning a monument to the Red Army, in the ], article about a month ago. Are you sure? Seems dubious. ] 02:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


== WP Poland in the ''Signpost'' ==
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== ] ==
:Lysy, pomyślę wy moglibyście potrzebować wiedzieć że pomnik w Raudanie był zainstalowany podczas Radzieckiego Okresu. To jest interesujące żeby one opuszczali to jedyne. Przypominuję sobie co podczas moich studiów w Krakowie, tam był raciej wielki pomnik do Czerwonej Armii z poważny (z grobami) w Plantach. Jest to wciąż tam? ] 02:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


Wesołych Swiąt! ] 03:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC) The Netherlands isn't situated in EE.] (]) 11:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


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I still believe that comments are not relevant to the Ausschwitz article unless it can be commented that it was used for a particular feature. The detailed properties should be in the article of the gas. ] 09:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:I agree, - saying that I have not checked the other article in detail, to see how much of the info is there or not. But it can be added with out any problem. Basically if it needs mentioning I would like to see something on the lines of "Gas X was choosen because of property Y (<nowiki><ref></nowiki>URL of source (or bookreference) <nowiki></ref></nowiki>" ] 19:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


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All information about discrimination of national minorities in Prussia was deleted.
Information that Poles were subject to discrimination in Prussian state have been stated as "historical revisionism" by a German user. All information about this presented on discussion page was either ignored or claimed that it is a Polish POV because Poles feel unsecure living on others land, despite the fact that sources were non-Polish.
Please help in achieving NPOV in the article
--] 15:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


== Good article reassessment ==
==Some very worrying edits==
In ],
A user appeared that seems to try portay Hitler as trying to get peace with Poland being portayed as "refusing". He removed several sources I provided as to Hitler's real intentions.
He also uses data from military presecence to claim German majority in the region.
The same is done in Polish ], where sources showing Hitler's real intentions have been deleted by the user or changed to POW way that downplayes Hitler's agression and true intentions.
For example despite the fact that a source states
''The proposal served to practically subordinate Poland to the Axis and the Anti-Comintern Bloc. Warsaw refused this in order to retain its independence'' the user changed it to ''Poland, however, feared for its sovereignty and questioned Germany's motivations'' indicating an irrational motive on behalf of Poland.
Further changes of the user are worrying.
For example he changes German agresssion into "German aggression".
The sentence
With Poland refusing to abandon its sovereignty to German demands, Germany withdrew from both the ]
has been changed to :
''With Poland refusing its demands, Germany withdrew from both the ]''
And so on.
Please react to this.
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==Hitler wanted peace with Poland and Nazi's only wanted to unite Germany ?...===
All information about the role of Lebensraum deleted from information about goals of Nazis deleted, Poland and Warsaw according to the user are part of "Greater Germany" :
User doubts Hitler wanted war and Lebensraum in East and pursuses changes to indicate he wanted peace with Poland:
Hitler wanted to settle territorial issues but Poland didn't trust him:
No comments. I even went as far to give links but the user deletes them as POV.
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== MeeGo UX ==
Please inform everybody who could be interested in.--] 20:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


I'm not sure why you changed UX to UI on ]. The user experience layers are in fact abbreviated UX on that system. ] (]) 11:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
== RfC about Irpen's conduct ==


== If you would like to help out with some WP:POLAND activities ==
Hi! We filled a ] concerning the conduct of ]. Your comment is kindly invited.--] 17:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


I wonder if you'd be interested in my little current side project: ensuring that all individuals in ] have a WPPOLAND talk template. This is so that this nice listing (]) would be more correct. I am currently working from top down, started yesterday with musicians.
== Hi Stettin article ==


Or perhaps would you like to do a few B-class reviews for WP:POLAND? We have a backlog at ]. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 02:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
As to the Stettin article. I appreciate your comments. IN 1945 the Polish troops, contrary to Potsdam Conference, which had left Stettin inside of the Soviet German occupation zone, occupied Stettin, and the Soviet troops handed over command to the Polish. After that its citizens were expelled. That's how history simply was. Nothing more, nothing less.] 14:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


== WikiProject Poland Newsletter • January 2014 • Issue II ==
:It's very likely, however it would be good to have sources to support it. From what I know:
:# there's been a Polish minority in Stettin already before the Soviets entered the town in 1945.
:# Almost all Germans fled the town earlier in 1945 but many returned (over 80 thousand by July)
:# They were expelled later in 1950s (the expulsions started in 1946), some worked in Soviet camps in Szczecin and its suburbs.
:# The Soviets officially transferred the town to Poland on July 5th, 1945, but maintained their military presence long thereafter.
:# The Soviets kept the seaport of Szczecin until 1955, when they handed it over to Poland.
:# According to Szczecin's : ''"During the Potsdam Conference, the Great Threesome decided to award Szczecin to Poland"''
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Welcome to the second issue of ] newsletter, the Monitor (named after ]).
sorry lysy ther was no polnish minorty in Stettin existing before 1945, thats wrong.--] 14:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Misplaced Pages notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the ], so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; we get close to a hundred discussion threads each year and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised. Last year we were ], and our interviewer was amazed at our activity. In the end, however, even as active as we are, we are just a tiny group - you can easily become one of our core members!
:Maybe not before 1939, but certainly before 1945 as the Nazis relocated a number of Poles there for forced labour. --]<sup>]</sup> 14:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


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Well that might be (1000 or 2000 in the Stettiner Vulkan AG shipping yards) but they were not permant inhabitnts with property there. The polnish people which live there right know, live entirely on stolen property of the prewar 350,000 german inhabitants. These act of ethnical cleansing should be clearly pointed out in the city history.
* we have an active ]. As of now, our project has tagged almost 83,000 pages as Poland-related - that's an improvement of over 3,000 new pages since the last newsletter. Out of which 30 still need a , and 2,000, . We have done a lot to clear the backlog here (3 years ago those numbers were 1,500 and 20,000, respectively). Can you help assess a few pages?
Because its historically unique in its dimension in Europe. Sorry don´t get me wrong I am not anti polnish but this must be sayed. --] 17:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
**assessing articles is as easy as filling in the class= and importance= parameters on the talk page in the <nowiki>{{WPPOLAND|class=|importance=}}</nowiki> template. See ] for a how-to guide.
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I have to say that your conduct tastes bad. You first moved the article to your preferred location, then open a RM. Majority had spoken in talk page a couple of days ago. We should give your RM the setting that you are requesting that move, not opposing it. Our difference seems to be that one of us uses English, one has reflections of another language (Polish) behind its use. Seeing the meaning of the term "Union", these are not unions. ] 18:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


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:No, I have looked at the talk history and it is not true that '''majority''' had spoken in talk page a couple of days ago. I've also noticed that there was opposition to the rename in the first place. Therefore, the article should not have been moved without opening a formal request. Only 3 ppl were in favour of the move and one opposed, that's not a consensus and a wider opinion should be seeked before renaming. The remaining talk shows that there were more ppl against the rename. Also, "Union of Krewo" is not my favourite wording, nevertheless I oppose the rename. --]<sup>]</sup> 18:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


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:I understand and acknowledge that formally, it might have not been a union, nevertheless, it is the name that is used for this. It's just a name and does not imply whether the documents constitued a formal union or not. However, we should not be inventing new names as we please, against the usage in scholarly works. It's good to explain in the article that it was not a union, but the title should stay. --]<sup>]</sup> 19:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


Hello, Lysy. Please stop changing these redirects. Belzec is known by its Polish name as well. The camp was located in Poland.] (]) 21:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Please don't engage in 'move war', and please list the moves on the WP:RM page.--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 16:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


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Please read carefully, and do not be misled by the title. As the article shows, the IPN has found no evidence for any outside inspiration. Here is the conclusion of the prosecutor:
''Według prokuratora, stan materiału dowodowego pozwalał przyjąć jako najbardziej prawdopodobną hipotezę, że "wydarzenia kieleckie z 4 lipca 1946 roku miały charakter spontaniczny i zaistniały wskutek nieszczęśliwego zbiegu okoliczności natury historycznej i współczesnej".''


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:Yes, but some historians, including those from IPN still speculate (or argue) that despite the lack of firm evidence the pogrom was likely inspired. Some of their arguments include the fact that most of the victims were shot or that the army isolated the area and did not let the people who could have helped into it. Of course ''if'' it was NKVD inspired than it would be hard to expect that they would be leaving documents with proofs behind. Anyway, I agree with you, that the fact that the investigation was inconclusive should be stressed. --]<sup>]</sup> 15:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


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:Probably you're right. It's also possible that it was inspired but on a much lower, local level, which would be also much closer to the "spontaneus" explanation. Only a speculation of course. Feel free to change the wording in the article to better reflect what you wrote about. I find it difficult to differentiate opinions from facts in this article and believe every word should be carefully considered. --]<sup>]</sup> 16:09, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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I have neither been incivil nor disrupted the wikipedia. Also, please take a look at the talk page of the article and my edits of other articles, before accusing me of ''"doing very little other than participate in a sterile revert war"''. I believe the blocking admin have seen the accusations of Donnog but have not bothered to verify them and blocked me instead}} I'd appreciate an apology for the careless accusations. --]<sup>]</sup> 22:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
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Actually, I'd rather neither of them is blocked. Telling Donnog to revert back or be blocked is a gesture of goodwill to end the revert war. If he doesn't take it, he can be blocked, the war is over for some time. If he does, the war is over for some time but without punishments. Both parties tried to use the talk page, after all. But Donnog should have given up the revert war because he could have known that he's in the minority (1 vs 2) and it was impossible for him to "win" this way, due to 3RR, only by discussion. On this unspoken right, namely to have the version that more approve of, Lysy insisted (which is understandable) but still tried to discuss things. With all due respect, I think the blocks should be undone. ] 22:55, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


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Open peer review

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Where are you?

Hi Lysy, I just want to say that you are missed here on Misplaced Pages. Hope you are OK and hope to see you back. I know, trolls are a real pain in the ..., but surely you can stand them. Life is full of trolls, and yet we live it. Tymek (talk) 04:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

polonized vs de-germanized at recovered territories article

Please excuse my revert, but Polonized fits much better. De-Germanisation implies to recreate the state before the Germanization (11th century), which was certainly not the case. The territories rather underwent Polonization: everything changed Polish (names, people, etc pp). Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 20:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

FYI

You were mentioned and thanked by Greg in his final remark (I just found about it today by accident). Read his post here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland

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Fed. of Expellees

Hey,

I reverted two of your edits in the Federation of Expellees article. The Spiegel story was reflected differently by Polska and FAZ which is now sourced and in the "federation today" section, so the other paragraph you inserted (unintentionally) turned out to be be an unsourced POV fork. The second edit I reverted was about the Nazi Soviet population transfers. You are right that the Soviet Union did not occupy the Baltic states immediately after the pact and subsequent invasion of Poland, yet the Molotov Ribbentrop pact had defined the areas which were to be Soviet/Nazi controlled without leaving a territorial buffer. The "evacuation" of the Baltic Germans was made in apprehension of the Soviet take-over and only from those parts "assigned" (by Hitler/Ribbentrop and Stalin/Molotov) to the Soviet Union. The exact time of the actual military take-over was thereby unimportant. I hope you see my rationale, regards Skäpperöd (talk) 10:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is an interesting issue (though sort of a "dark" kind of interesting ...). Regarding the Baltic German and related resettlements, that is is covered in History of German settlement in Eastern Europe, but not in great detail. I recently developed Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany, covering (at least partially) their temporary resettlement and the contemporary expulsions/deportations/murder of resident Poles and Jews. Also there are articles on the Baltic Germans themselves and the Nazi-Soviet population transfer, which for sure could need an expansion. So if you got time and sources .... Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 07:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Lysy, can you provide any reference supporting why this street is more historically signifigant than any other in warsaw, without sources to support it's importance, it's still potentially a deletion candidate. TurningWork (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Jochen Böhler

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brutal mass murder

All murder is brutal, no? It's redundant and adds undue weight. The first sentence of the paragraph says its ethnic cleansing. Would "deadly aggression" not encompass not only the death but all actions that took place? Murder wasn't the only thing happening.--Львівське (talk) 08:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

"...the brutality of the UPA there is unparalleled in the 20th century in Europe" how can you honestly say that?

Double Memory

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FYI

Talk:Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II#Shocked. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Komański, Siekierka

O co chodzi? Przecież to źródło oparte na zeznaniach świadków wydarzeń opublikowanych w karcie. Na ich książki powołuje się np. Motyka w Ukraińskiej partyzantce. Jeśli masz jakieś do nich zastrzeżenia to powiedz jakie a nie usuwaj bez słowa ich jako źródła. Są na pewno dobrym źródłem bo opartym bezpośrednio na świadkach.--Paweł5586 (talk) 09:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Jak sobie wyobrażasz badania obu stron w obecnej sytuacji na Ukrainie w ogóle negowane są zbrodnie? Kto w nich by uczestniczył nacjonaliści z Tarnopola którzy mają tam 35% poparcia i protestowali przeciw Hucie Pieniackiej? Siekierka i Komański są pionierami w tej kwestii, ale to nie przyczyna by ich negować. Póki nie ma lepszych opracowań, należy się na nich oprzeć, tak jak Motyka. Siemaszko też była krytykowana za 60 tys na Wołyniu itd. a obecnie ta liczba jest uznana powszechnie. Weź też pod uwagę że większość ukraińskich historyków tak i jak rosyjskich wybiela swoich. Pozdrawiam serdecznie--Paweł5586 (talk) 20:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

FAR of Invasion of Poland (1939)

I have nominated Invasion of Poland (1939) for Featured article review due to a number of, hopefully, resolvable issues that exist in the article. --Labattblueboy (talk) 02:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

May I ask why you undid my edit to the article? It was made in good faith to remove material that failed with regards to 1c of the feature article criteria and I suspect POV. In the future please do not reinsert material unless cited. --Labattblueboy (talk) 13:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
I can understand your reservation but the content was largely uncited and didn't appear to make a whole lot of sense. This being said, I certain want to work cooperatively in improving the article, or moreso maintaining its FA level. If my future edits step on any toes please let me know. --Labattblueboy (talk) 16:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Polish civilian per cent casualties - OK, "about" is good. However, if you have no exact figures, we can rely on good ref in World_War_II_casualties. Alandeus (talk) 17:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Mediation

A mediation case has been opened regarding the Polish-Ukranian WWII dispute. I have picked up that case. Here's the link:

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Unreferenced BLPs

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Jan Dzierzon

Imie i nazwisko Dzierzona zostalo zmieniona na Johann Dzierzon, to jest pisownia niemiecka. Britanica podaje Jan Dzierżoń (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/175400/Jan-Dzierzon) i tak powinno byc. Rowniez tu (http://bees.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=bees;idno=5017629) angielskie tlumaczenie pracy Dzierzona podaje Dzierżon, Jan. Czy skontaktowales sie z museum w Kluczborku, albo przeczytales dowody i fotokopie w podanych pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka? Pomijanie zrodel polskich jest niedopuszczalne. Ci ktorzy chca zmieniac artykul powinni uznac wage zrodel polskich wage a nie lawirowac na drugorzednych przekladach i niepelnych zrodlach. Podane tez sa wspolczesne artykuly w prasie polskiej i napisane przez Polakow. Trzeba je wniesc do tekstu. Niech chociaz bedzie widoczne ze spoleczenstwo polskie ma silne zdanie na ten temat. Podaje Ci e-mail jezeli chcesz powaznie pracowac bez udzialu szpiegow: erudra@hotmail.com. --Soujdspo (talk) 22:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)


Bierz zawsze pod uwage ze: 1) w okresie Bismarck'a zniemczano imiona celowo 2) Poszukiwania liczbowe zapisu imion na internecie sa falszywka - autorzy wtedy i dzisiaj powtarzaja to co zostalo zniemczone i wprowadzone w pismie, clowo, przez nieuwage lub niewiedze. Jedyna droga czy jego imie powinno byc pisane Jahann czy Jan jest stwierdzenie ze Dzierzon uwazal sie za Polaka i kultywowal polskos, i tak jest zgodnie z dokumentami opisanymi w pracach Brozka, Gladysza i ks. Mazaka etc. --Soujdspo (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC) --Soujdspo (talk) 02:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

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Digital library

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Resource Map

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Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Poland

Our project is becoming more and more active, recently we started doing proper B-class reviews. I'd like to invite you to watchlist the page (if you haven't already) and participate in our discussions. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland/Members activity

Hi. I am conducting another activity check for Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland. It seems to me that you are "semi-active". Feel free to change your status here as soon as you make 10 or more edits on Poland-related articles per month! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Monitor. WikiProject Poland Newsletter: Issue 1 (April 2011)

WikiProject Poland Newsletter • April 2011
For our freedom and yours

Welcome to our first issue of WikiProject Poland newsletter, the Monitor (named after the first Polish newspaper).

Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Misplaced Pages notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; in this year alone about 40 threads have been started on our discussion page, and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised.

In addition to a lively encyclopedic, Poland-related, English-language discussion forum, we have numerous useful tools that can be of use to you - and that you could help us maintain and develop:

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Belzec

Dear Sir, Thank you for your fotos. Unfortunatly there is no inscribtion, and so it is not clear, what is to be seen - for example here: Datei:PL Belzec extermination camp 3.jpg

And what do you think about this one: Datei:PL Belzec extermination camp 10.jpg|11) Isn't it redundant and without any valuable information? --217.247.126.165 (talk) 18:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC) (=Holgerjan)

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Anti-Jewish violence in Eastern Europe, 1944–1946

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A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For kindness in sticking up for Karaim-Karaites and Karaim-Karaism on the Talk:Crimean Karaites as a distinct ethno-religious community from Karaite Jews and Karaite Judaism. Kaz 21:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
The Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd Class
For your constant help with the Poland-related articles and issues, on behalf of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland, I award you the Polish Barnstar of National Merit, 2nd class. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to Lysy by Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here on 17:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

MeeGo UX

I'm not sure why you changed UX to UI on MeeGo. The user experience layers are in fact abbreviated UX on that system. Marnanel (talk) 11:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

If you would like to help out with some WP:POLAND activities

I wonder if you'd be interested in my little current side project: ensuring that all individuals in List of Poles have a WPPOLAND talk template. This is so that this nice listing (Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland/Popular pages) would be more correct. I am currently working from top down, started yesterday with musicians.

Or perhaps would you like to do a few B-class reviews for WP:POLAND? We have a backlog at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland/Reviews. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Poland Newsletter • January 2014 • Issue II

WikiProject Poland Newsletter • January 2014 • Issue II
For our freedom and yours

Welcome to the second issue of WikiProject Poland newsletter, the Monitor (named after the first Polish newspaper).

Our Project has been operational since 1 June, 2005, and also serves as the Poland-related Misplaced Pages notice board. I highly recommend watchlisting the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Poland page, so you can be aware of the ongoing discussions. We hope you will join us in them, if you haven't done so already! Unlike many other WikiProjects, we are quite active; we get close to a hundred discussion threads each year and we do a pretty good job at answering all issues raised. Last year we were featured in the Signpost, and our interviewer was amazed at our activity. In the end, however, even as active as we are, we are just a tiny group - you can easily become one of our core members!

In addition to a lively encyclopedic, Poland-related, English-language discussion forum, we have numerous useful tools that can be of use to you - and that you could help us maintain and develop:

  • we have an active assessment department. As of now, our project has tagged almost 83,000 pages as Poland-related - that's an improvement of over 3,000 new pages since the last newsletter. Out of which 30 still need a quality assessment, and 2,000, importance assessment. We have done a lot to clear the backlog here (3 years ago those numbers were 1,500 and 20,000, respectively). Can you help assess a few pages?
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Belzec and Sobibór

Hello, Lysy. Please stop changing these redirects. Belzec is known by its Polish name as well. The camp was located in Poland.Hoops gza (talk) 21:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Auschwitz is an exception to the rule and therefore a poor example. Auschwitz is almost universally known as referring to the concentration camp. Auschwitz concentration camp is not referred to by the Polish name of the town it is near. It's just the way it is. Belzec by comparison is little known and would frequently be searched by its Polish name. The very lede sentence in the Belzec article clearly states that it is also called Bełżec. This is not an exact science, that's for sure.Hoops gza (talk) 21:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

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