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== Copy attribution bot question or proposal ==
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Does anyone know if there is a bot available that could process a list of articles and make one edit each, in order to add a copy attribution edit summary to the history based on a couple of parameters?
== De-authorize ] ==
{{archive top|{{resolved}} - Deflagged}}
As {{rfplinks|7SeriesBOT}} no longer administrative permissions, it is no longer capable of completing any tasks. I move to deauthorize/deflag this bot/account. — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
;Notifications
:Ping to operator: {{ping|DangerousPanda}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
:Ping to active BAG members: {{ping|Anomie}}, {{ping|JamesR}}, {{ping|Magioladitis}}, {{ping|MBisanz}}. — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:39, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
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:{{U|xaosflux}} I agree. the bot was not active in the last 4 years anyway. -- ] (]) 19:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as above. &mdash; ] <small>(])</small> 20:44, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
: I don't see any need to ''deauthorize'' the bot, although I would encourage the operator to make sure its tasks still make sense before reactivating it (should the operator desire to do so). ]] 00:47, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
::This is an adminbot that has lost its admin bit, it has no available tasks. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:13, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
:I don't know that we need a formal finding, but I agree. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:40, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
*I've removed the bot flag. –]] 22:54, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
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Editors are ] from other Wikipedias (or wikis with compatible licenses) as long as they comply with our ], which specifies the wording to be added to the edit summary. (This is not optional, and is per our ].) When an editor is not aware of the requirement or forgets to do it, the required attribution can still be added after the fact, per ].
⚫ == Bababa67 ==


The bot's task would be to add the proper attribution wording to the article history. Input to the bot would be a list of articles, where each article would be accompanied by one parameter containing the name of the article from which content was copied or translated. There would be a second param, which specifies {{para|type|copy}}- or {{para|type|translate}}-attribution, and which could either be a single, run-time param, or per article. The output would be a dummy edit to each article, along with an edit summary using the wording given at ], substituting in the correct wording per the parameters.
Could somebody knowedgeable with bots, bot flags and BRFA please have a look at ] and subpages? User seems to have a lot there concerning bots, including two subpages of python code (I don't know python at all, so don't know what they do). --] (]) 15:35, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
* {{U|Redrose64|Red}}, from my little bit of ability to read the code, it appears to be someone attempting to imitate ]. I'd block the account and get some feedback from {{U|The Earwig}} and {{U|Σ|sigma}} on it. — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;]&#125;&#125; <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></span> 16:59, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
** {{U|Redrose64|Red}} I'd say blocking them is the best course of action, unless they are willing to remove the content, and seek approval from the BRFA before making any further bot edits. I can confirm, AFAIK, the code is a copy of LSBIII, so probably shouldn't be there. --]]<small>]</small> 17:15, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
***I don't see any need to block them; they just seem to be testing things out and not causing any tangible harm and haven't actually made any "bot edits". Why not just edit off the offending content and engage in further dialogue? –]] 17:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
****Agree, no disruptive editing at all is taking place, so no block is warranted. — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:32, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
* I'd argue that an attempt to impersonate another user ({{Noping|Lowercase sigmabot III}} in this case) is grounds for blocking. I've made sure that Earwig and Sigma are aware, and I'll leave the rest to you all. — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;]&#125;&#125; <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></span> 00:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
*:Yes, fair enough. I've deleted all those pages and warned them on this: ]. –]] 01:03, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
*::Seems ok, {{ping|Technical 13}}; may be the lack of diffs, etc above--but these edits were all isolated to their userspace, still appears to be a type of testing, can you point to any specific diff of them impersonating the real account with an edit outside of their own userspace? (For blocking grounds). — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:23, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
*::* {{Diff|User:Lalala6788|640017089|639680787|This user page is officially controlled by The signmabot}}? ] (which suggests there needs to be a CU to check if this is the same user using {{IPuser|112.198.99.18}})? — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;]&#125;&#125; <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></span> 01:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
::::: Hmmm, seems to be quacking..., may want to cross post this to ANI unless Xeno wants to keep running with it. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
::::Looks like they've edited that bit off. Could be friends/siblings messing around. To me it still seems like they're just testing stuff and I don't really see a pressing need to tell them to get off our lawn just yet ;>, it doesn't seem malicious. But yes, if the situation worsens it should probably go to another venue because there's no actual bot activity/problem. –]] 04:05, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{ty}}, all; but I think we should keep a lookout for a while longer --] (]) 15:55, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
::fyi, ]. --]]<small>]</small> 17:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
:::This guy, whilst no longer pretending to be a bot, admin, rollbacker, autopatroller or whatever other hat that he's decided to give to himself this week, is clearly ] - more than 500 edits, only about 20 of which are outside User:/User talk: space. It's even more so with his pages on ] and ], on all of which his User:/User talk: edits constitute exactly 100% of his total edits. I ], but they didn't reply; although {{diff|User talk:Bababa67|prev|641555156|they certainly ''saw'' it}}. --] (]) 09:21, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


Does something like this exist, and if not, how hard would it be to create one? Inspiration for this is a (good-faith) situation I have become aware of involving possibly ; prior user discussion with ] ]. Thanks, ] (]) 02:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== ClueBot 3 not archiving ==


:@]: I am not sure if any bots currently handle attribution dummy edits, but it is technically possible to run one. While I am not planning to run a bot, I can assist with this specific task if you provide more details, such as how many articles require attribution. If it's a one-time task involving 100 to 250 articles, I can handle it using PAWS with my alt account in supervised mode. I won't be able to help with larger numbers of articles due to time constraints. Could you email me the list of articles needing dummy edits, including how many are copied and how many are translated? Also, are all of them translated from the German Misplaced Pages, or do they include translations from other projects as well? – ] <small>(])</small> 10:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
<s>I came across this after a report to ClueBot NG's page, apparently ClueBot 3 is not archiving?
:: {{u|DreamRimmer}}, thank you for this. Hadn't heard of ] before, I'll have to look into it myself at some point. I don't know the number of copied and translated articles, but ] will be able to figure that out. I'll work with {{them|JeyReydar97}} to get a couple of lists for you. Many thanks, ] (]) 11:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::If it's a small number then an ] request might be an option as well. ] (]) 14:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:: {{u|DreamRimmer}}, in an attempt to come up with a simple input file interface that people could use to provide input to a bot or automated procedure, I have come up with this ] so we could have a starting point with something we could discuss. Let me know if this is anything you could work with. If so, we could use the Talk page there to hash out details, and keep this page just for higher level stuff when there is some major decision point, or if that proposal doesn't work at all. Thanks, ] (]) 04:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


⚫ == Hi ==
will show it's not archived since 5th January and I'm not sure why--] (]) 21:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)</s>


Hi Bot & I'm curious to know that how bots edit ] (]) 13:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
== Possible Bot Issue ==
:See ] – ] (]) 15:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

] is removing useful categories from all AfC articles which was not approved in ]. I found this category quite useful and find it harmful that it is being removed where it is needed. Thanks! ''']'''<sup><small>(])</small></sup> 06:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
:See ], ], ], ],], ] for all your ]ing/Harassment needs. Technically, I should never have tagged these pages because they were not identified using the originally authorized task. Since EoRdE6 decided to misuse the purpose of the identified category of that task I decided that enough drama had arisen from my unapproved use of the bot that I should remove the pages so that we can start the nice burecratic process of re-asking for permission (or not asking for permission again and forcing EoRdE6 to learn how to do technical things since they're so experienced with the project overall that they mess up CSD tagging on a frequent clip). ] (]) 06:45, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
:And technically the unauthorized task was the tagging that occured under the auspices of ]. Tonight's de-tagging was undoing the tags after I more a certain user decided to cause drama over this category. ] (]) 06:54, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
* I'm requesting further discussion here. As {{Diff|User talk:Mdann52|641581642|641334590|I stated}} on the talk page of the user who hatted this discussion, {{Tq|An unapproved bot task was reported, admitted to by the accused, and as a result, I think the misused bot flag should be removed from the bot until BAG can decide what to do about it.}} As such, I'm requesting exactly that. Please remove the bot flag from this bot until a member of BAG makes a statement on the behalf of BAG that it is okay cause disruption with a bot carrying out tasks that, using {{U|Hasteur}}'s own comment, {{Xt|were not identified using the originally authorized task.}} Thank you. — <span class="nowrap">&#123;&#123;U&#124;]&#125;&#125; <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></span> 23:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

== Labs disk maintenance ==

Labs has scheduled disk maintenance on January 15 at 18:00 UTC for up to 24 hours. Tools/bots may be affected during this time. Full details available on the . --] (]) 16:12, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:Maintenance aborted after 2 hours due to performance issues. Will be rescheduled in the future when more disk space is added. --] (]) 20:15, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:*Perhaps next time notification of this "scheduled disk maintenance" can be done maybe just a ''little'' bit more than two hours in advance? --] (]) 21:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
::{{reply|Hammersoft}} The can be subscribed to for more advanced notification. --] (]) 21:50, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Will the people who scheduled that maintenance please restart {{user|Cyberbot I}}, which went down at (presumably) 18:00 and is apparently not self-starting? --] (]) 21:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::I'd rather not subscribe to the whole mailing list just to listen out for things like this, could notifications be given here a day or so in advance in the future? ] (]) 21:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Concur. Perhaps (ironically) a bot could do the notifications for you across many language wikipedias? --] (]) 23:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Cyberbot I, which normally runs continuously, restarted at 00:00 and seems to be running normally. --] (]) 00:18, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
== Legobot ==
I don;t know what's actually happening but it seems like Legobot is malfuntioning. It is notifing {{u|Example}} (See ]) when GA reviewers start or pass/fails an article instead of notifing the nominator. I tried to contact the bot owner {{user|Legoktm}} on his talk page, but they haven;t replied. Thanks, ''']''' 04:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
:The bot defaults to Example when it can't find the nominator, meaning that someone probably didn't set up the template correctly. ] (]) 04:45, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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    Copy attribution bot question or proposal

    Does anyone know if there is a bot available that could process a list of articles and make one edit each, in order to add a copy attribution edit summary to the history based on a couple of parameters?

    Editors are welcome to copy or translate material from other Wikipedias (or wikis with compatible licenses) as long as they comply with our licensing requirements, which specifies the wording to be added to the edit summary. (This is not optional, and is per our Terms of use.) When an editor is not aware of the requirement or forgets to do it, the required attribution can still be added after the fact, per WP:CWW#Repairing insufficient attribution.

    The bot's task would be to add the proper attribution wording to the article history. Input to the bot would be a list of articles, where each article would be accompanied by one parameter containing the name of the article from which content was copied or translated. There would be a second param, which specifies |type=copy- or |type=translate-attribution, and which could either be a single, run-time param, or per article. The output would be a dummy edit to each article, along with an edit summary using the wording given at WP:RIA, substituting in the correct wording per the parameters.

    Does something like this exist, and if not, how hard would it be to create one? Inspiration for this is a (good-faith) situation I have become aware of involving possibly hundreds of unattributed translations; prior user discussion with User:JeyReydar97 here. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 02:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

    @Mathglot: I am not sure if any bots currently handle attribution dummy edits, but it is technically possible to run one. While I am not planning to run a bot, I can assist with this specific task if you provide more details, such as how many articles require attribution. If it's a one-time task involving 100 to 250 articles, I can handle it using PAWS with my alt account in supervised mode. I won't be able to help with larger numbers of articles due to time constraints. Could you email me the list of articles needing dummy edits, including how many are copied and how many are translated? Also, are all of them translated from the German Misplaced Pages, or do they include translations from other projects as well? – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
    DreamRimmer, thank you for this. Hadn't heard of PAWS before, I'll have to look into it myself at some point. I don't know the number of copied and translated articles, but User:JeyReydar97 will be able to figure that out. I'll work with them to get a couple of lists for you. Many thanks, Mathglot (talk) 11:10, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
    If it's a small number then an WP:AWBTASKS request might be an option as well. Primefac (talk) 14:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
    DreamRimmer, in an attempt to come up with a simple input file interface that people could use to provide input to a bot or automated procedure, I have come up with this /Attribution bot proposal so we could have a starting point with something we could discuss. Let me know if this is anything you could work with. If so, we could use the Talk page there to hash out details, and keep this page just for higher level stuff when there is some major decision point, or if that proposal doesn't work at all. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

    Hi

    Hi Bot & I'm curious to know that how bots edit The2KKidRulez (talk) 13:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

    See Help:Creating a bot#How does a Misplaced Pages bot work? – SD0001 (talk) 15:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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