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== rhetoric ==

I've always wondered what people mean by rhetoric? I don't mean anything bad just asking if you can explain to me whaqt it is (not specific actions unless you wish). ] (]) 19:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
: In this context, I guess it's reporting facts with links, rather than expressing opinions in dramatic terms based on those facts. Bit of a balancing act sometimes. I hope this helps, &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 19:39, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

{{u|Hell in a Bucket|HIAB}}. As a follow up to this, no matter how strongly you feel, it's really not a good idea to bandy ] about. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 09:05, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

:I think that it is a consideration of the evidence presented. I don't mean it as a personal attack but I think that her comments today show that she may not be thinking about this rationally. I can drag up the diffs as to why I am stating that, it's not meant for dramatic effect. II think in this area she may indeed have a COI. In the arbcase she told me to go to SPI when I reported the socking on the talkpage, i went then she denied saying that she said to go there or at the very least misinterperted it. Now we have her taking gender meanings to "Wail", Get wound up" and describing behaviors as "cute" of sexism. Then she starts a motino and hides it claiming that I thought the clerks would do it and didn't even have the consideration to do it herself since it was her motion. How long has she been on the committee is there a good reason to believe she wouldn't uhave a good understanding of the processes? Am I missing something here? ] (]) 09:11, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::Let's face the facts, I talk about accountability a lot. Here's mine, I am argumentative, I get hot headed. I have a difficult time with dishonesty, corruption and controlling my mouth when provoked or under stress. I do however accept and encourage disagreements as long as they are backed by a valid rationale. I am far far from perfect, but when I'm being portrayed as the problem when I present a huge amount of evidence of behaviors and I'm still the issue I have a problem with that. ] (]) 09:16, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

:Look at it this way. Everything to do with ArbCom is surrounded by masses of very un-wiki bureaucracy, mostly because of historic attempts to do right by parties who say they're not getting a fair crack of the whip. It's inevitable that arbitrators will make small procedural slips from time to time. It doesn't mean anything and isn't really significant. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 09:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

::Who was she trying to do right by? It didn't seem like a fair shake to TKOP. I won't repeat the accusations though, once is enough. I will excuse myself for the rest of the night so I don't pop off at the mouth any more tonight. ] (]) 09:31, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::: Probably wise, &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 09:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Please consider the merits of Salvio's oppose. I think it's the best idea in front of the committee now for this situation and will help vastly address both peoples complaints. Nothing say it has to be a popular result but a fair result that benefits the encyclopedia that stops disruption is the way to go. Those sanctions of admin boards removal is something that has seemed to work well with Tarc. I would ddefintely sacrifice my pride for such an equitable result. It doesn't address the off wiki issues butI don't follow people on private websites and can easily ignore the attack page. ] (]) 14:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

== A question about sanctions ==

Sorry to post here, (yes I read your note at the top) but I really don't feel like involving any of the other arbitrators in this question. You seem to be the owner of a rational & well-oiled noggin, and more importantly you don't speak down to other's with a mouthful of legalese; This is why I'm approaching you. From the GGTF case, I have an indefinite topic ban. I know what "indefinite" means, but I also noticed that those who were indefinitely ''banned'' are able to request their sanction being removed after a year. Does the same timeframe apply to topic bans? ]<span style="font-style:italic"><sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub></span> 23:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
: Yes, that's about right. But unless the atmosphere around the topic changes significantly, I doubt the committee will consider relaxing topic bans that soon. &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 04:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

== Typo'? ==

I think there's a word missing in somewhere. ("Commentary – varying from constructive criticism to ad hominin remarks – about Wifione has posted in many forums on many occasions on many years without resolution.") --] (] · ] · ]) 13:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
: Oh yes, and fixed. I'm rubbish at proofreading my own stuff. Thank you for telling me, &nbsp;] <sup>]</sup> 13:55, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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