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I would close these, but I am closing too many of them. However, I can provide procedural help for anyone who is unfamiliar with how to close discussions and would like to help with closing. Thanks! ] ] 22:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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* RFC needs closing: proposed wording and survey at ]. ] (]) 05:03, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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**The RfC tag was not added until so the RfC was not open for very long and the section has not been open 30 days since the RfC tag was added, and the conversation continues with .-- ] (]) 13:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
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***The conversation had pretty well settled down until PBS canvassed 50 users yesterday () through his alternate account {{u|PBS-AWB}}. ] (]) 16:13, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
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****Well, we've now gone past 30 days since the RFC tag was added, and more than six weeks since the discussion was initiated (on 16 December 2014). The discussion there seems to have died down to a slow simmer. —] (]) 04:21, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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{{initiated|17:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)}} challenge of close at AN was archived ''']''' - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
*Needs closing so that a software change can be suggested if successful. ] (]) 14:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC){{initiated|16 December 2014}}


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{{initiated|19:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion died down quite a long time ago. I do not believe anything is actionable but a formal closure will help. ] (]) 04:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|8 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


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{{initiated|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|2 December 2014}}? The "Media coverage" section is currently in the article. Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|17:54, 8 October 2024 (UTC)}} Expired tag, no new comments in more than a week. ] (]) 21:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|19 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. Also see: ]. ] (]) 17:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|21 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


:{{a note}} Not sure if anyone is looking into this, but might be a good idea to wait for a few weeks since there is ongoing discussion. ] (]) 16:33, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ] {{Initiated|1 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)


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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|15 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC) {{initiated|22:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have petered out a month ago. Consensus seems unclear. ] (]) 02:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{a note}} Needs admin closure imho, due to its importance (guideline page), length (101kb), and questions about neutrality of the Rfc question and what it meant. ] (]) 21:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:: <small>And in true ] fashion, this discussion, quiescent for six weeks, has some more responses again. ] (]) 01:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)</small>


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{{Initiated|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Seven discussions still open. '''<span style="color:red;">Erpert</span>''' <small><sup><span style="color:green;">]</span></sup></small> 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
:'''] ''''']'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp;<small>22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</small>


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Discussion is slowing significantly. Likely no consensus, personally. ] (]) 03:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)


:Option 2 was very clearly rejected. The closer should try to see what specific principles people in the discussion agreed upon if going with a no consensus close, because there should be a follow-up RfC after some of the details are hammered out. <span class="nowrap">] (]) <small>(please ] me on reply)</small></span> 03:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
It was archived. The RfC is still relevant to the page. ] (]) 06:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{Doing}} <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—]&nbsp;<sup>(]·])</sup></span> 13:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{yo|Compassionate727}} Still working on this? — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—]&nbsp;<sup>(]·])</sup></span> 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Taking a pause is fair. Just wanted to double check. — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 00:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:asking for an update if possible. I think this RFC and previous RFCBEFORE convos were several TOMATS long at this point, so I get that this might take time. ] (]) 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|18:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} - probably gonna stay status quo, but would like a closure to point to ] (]) 06:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Discussion has been ongoing for two months and it's only been getting more heated. No sign of consensus for merging in sight. {{initiated|8 December 2014|type=tfd}} ] (]) 01:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
*I second Alakzi's request above. ] (]) 01:40, 1 February 2015 (UTC) * Done ] (]) 21:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
*Also, for a timeline of this TfD see ]. There was a 20-day 'break period' I neglected to mention; I apologise. ] (]) 02:29, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{initiated|19:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC has elapsed, and uninvolved closure is requested. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)">]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub></span> 15:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Could an experienced editor, preferably an admin, close this RFC {{Initiated|29 December 2014}}. It concerns whether there should be references in the lead to the Kurds being an "Iranian people". It's a highly contentious topic that is prone to drive-by edit-warring. A proposal to resolve the issue was made in the ] and discussion now seems to come to an end. But the drive-by edit warring continues. It would be good to see if we have a long-term solution out of the RFC, backed by an experienced editor's assessment. ] (]) 20:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{initiated|16:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} Very wide impact, not much heat. ] (]) 15:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor or an admin please close these TfD discussions? It seems like there's a backlog of TfDs to be closed. Thanks in advance!
* ] {{Initiated|30 December 2014|type=tfd}}
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* Consensus seems clear, I don't think my Indian-ness poses a ] here, closed. ] (]) 22:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Requesting an uninvolved editor to close this RfC that I initiated. Most were "no", although Nyttend voted no but stated the temple should be included. I would appreciate someone reviewing the arguments and close the RfC. Thanks, ] (]) 01:23, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{initiated|16:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)}} ] (]) 17:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ]? {{Initiated|26 December 2014|type=rfd}} Thanks, ] (]) 19:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|22:51, 8 December 2024}} No further participation in the last 7 days. Consensus is clear but I am the opener of the RfC and am not comfortable closing something I am so closely involved in, so would like somebody uninvolved to close it if they believe it to be appropriate.] (]) 16:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ] {{Initiated|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not comfortable closing a discussion on a guideline change this early. In any case, if the discussion continues as it has been, a formal closure won't be necessary. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—]&nbsp;<sup>(]·])</sup></span> 13:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|18:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)}} This RfC expired five days ago, has an unclear consensus, I am involved, and discussion has died down. ]<sub>]<sub>]</sub></sub> (]/]) 22:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ] {{Initiated|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{Initiated|19:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} RFC is only 5 days old as of time of this posting, but overwhelming consensus approves of status quo, except for a single COI editor. ] (]) 21:04, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|26 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
:The CoI editor has now accepted that consensus is for the status quo, but I think a formal close from an uninvolved editor, summarizing the consensus would be helpful, since the issue has been coming up for a while and many editors were involved. — ] 🚀 <sup>(] • ])</sup> 16:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:yes, despite multiple posts to ], ], ], several talk page discussions, and now an RFC, I doubt the pressure to remove word oligarch from the lede of that page will stop. An appropriate close could be a useful thing to point at in the future though. ] (]) 16:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done}} by {{u|Nomoskedasticity}}. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—]&nbsp;<sup>(]·])</sup></span> 13:30, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Lots of considered debate with good points made. See the nom's closing statement. ] (]) 09:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{initiated|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{initiated|14:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} The bot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an independent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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This is a discussion on a topic that has, in the past, proved so controversial that ] are in force. For that reason, and because of the general sanctions, it would be very useful for us to actually have an external editor judge whether consensus has been reached or not - as opposed to the discussion just being removed mysteriously from the page with no explanation given beyond an edit summary claiming that no admin is needed. The risk at present is that people might act on a consensus that they believe might exist in this discussion, only to be sanctioned under the general sanctions if admins at ] disagree. It may be that no admin is formally needed to close the discussion - any uninvolved editor can close the discussion after all - but it would be entirely false to say that a close would serve no purpose or is not needed. It really is.


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So would an uninvolved editor please close the discussion. If you feel the point is obvious, then great! In that case, please close it with a statement of the obvious. But it does need to be closed. '']'' <small>'']''</small> 23:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Please review ]. --] (]) 17:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:As the initiator of the discussion in question, I concur with the need for an uninvolved editor or admin to review the discussion and determine whether a consensus has indeed been reached. The whole purpose of this discussion, as {{u|Kahastok}} touched upon, was to determine a consensus for the use of metric vs. imperial units in the infobox of various personnel in association football. Without getting into too much detail here, the desire is to have a WikiProject-wide guideline for the use of height and weight units and how they would be inserted without the need for a discussion on every article which ''might'' be UK related as presently required by ]. The need for an uninvolved editor or admin is to avoid any appearance of the process being railroaded by a few editors. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup><small>]</small><sub>]</sub> 00:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


:The discussion has now been relisted thrice. --] (]) 00:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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This RfC has only been going on for three weeks, but the discussion has well and truly ended, with no contribution for more than a week. (Also, it's a continuation of a previous discussion, and so the issue has been dragging on a long time.) I thought the consensus was clear to exclude the text under discussion, but I checked with the lone "include" !voter and he or she didn't think so. ]] (]) 19:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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states : ''This RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges. It is recommended that this RfC be closed by an Admin - one who has no previous involvement in the AfC process.'' This RfC for an emergency measure has run for 11 days and participation has tailed off; a consensus appears to have been reached so would an uninvolved '''admin''' please consider closing it. --] (]) 05:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


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From at WP:AN: {{quotation|1=Would an admin assess the consensus the consensus at ] (initiated 5 February 2015)? According to at ], this is an "RfC for an emergency measure". Thank you, ] (]) 00:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
{{initiated|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:You mean to assess if there is a clear consensus? Despite this being an emergency measure, the RfC itself says "this RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges" so it should probably be allowed to continue to run the 30 days if there is no clear consensus. BTW, I'm seeing !votes on 1st February so I think the 5 February date must be wrong. ] (]) 14:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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{{initiated|01:40, 07 October 2024 (UTC)|done=yes}} A merge + move request with RM banners that needs closure. No new comments in 20 days. <span class="nowrap">&#8212;''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 20:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
I started this discussion, and I was expecting an automatic closure because I didn't know how the system worked. It was automatically archived. Is it too late? ] (]) 06:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
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Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|24 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


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Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|4 February 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC) {{initiated|14:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)}} This needs formal closure by someone uninvolved. ] (]) 03:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)


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{{initiated| 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC) |type=rm}} RM that has been open for over a month. ] (]) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated|8 February 2015}}? A discussion participant wrote: "Since there appears to be no agreement between myself and involved admins, I would like to request closure by an uninvolved admin." Thanks, ] (]) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


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{{initiated|22:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Pretty simple RM that just needs an uninvolved editor to close. &#8213;] <sub>]</sub> 17:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
RFC finished a while back and nobody's commented for around a week. Can an admin please assess consensus and close? ] (]) 22:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


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Would an an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus at ] ''after February 16 at 00:16 UTC''. {{Initiated|15 February 2015}} Note that the discussion is over 40,000 words. Thank you. <span style="background-color:#B7D9F9;padding:0px 3px;border-radius:3px">]&nbsp;<span style="border-left:1px solid #0E5CA4;padding-left:3px">]</span></span> 02:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
:{{Doing}} ] (]) 20:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


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