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			<section begin=Instructions/>Use the '''closure requests noticeboard''' to ask an uninvolved editor to ]. Do so when ] appears unclear, it is a contentious issue, or where there are wiki-wide implications (e.g. any change to our ]).
	== Requests for closure ==
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	I would close these, but I am closing too many of them. However, I can provide procedural help for anyone who is unfamiliar with how to close discussions and would like to help with closing. Thanks! ] ] 22:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
	* {{Initiated\|29 November 2014\|type=tfd}} — <span class="nowrap">{{U\|]}} <sup>(] • ] • ])</sup></span> 15:58, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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	Would an experienced editor please assess the consensus at the following template discussions:
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''redirect'''. ] (]) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''delete'''. ] (]) 22:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''no consensus'''. ] (]) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''delete'''. ] (]) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''subst and delete'''. ] (]) 05:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''delete'''. ] (]) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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	:*Done by ] - closed as '''don't merge'''. ] (]) 07:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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	Thanks, ] (]) 08:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
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			{{initiated\|17:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)}} challenge of close at AN was archived ''']''' - 05:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|15 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

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	Seven discussions still open. '''<span style="color:red;">Erpert</span>''' <small><sup><span style="color:green;">]</span></sup></small> 05:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
	*Down to five now. --] (]) 19:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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	Discussion has been ongoing for two months and it's only been getting more heated. No sign of consensus for merging in sight. {{initiated\|8 December 2014\|type=tfd}} ] (]) 01:25, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
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	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at at ] {{Initiated\|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|26 December 2014}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|06:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)}} everybody has forgotten about that discussion, but it needs closure. ] (]) 13:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 20:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|22:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)}} Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. ] (]) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
	This is a discussion on a topic that has, in the past, proved so controversial that ] are in force. For that reason, and because of the general sanctions, it would be very useful for us to actually have an external editor judge whether consensus has been reached or not - as opposed to the discussion just being removed mysteriously from the page with no explanation given beyond an edit summary claiming that no admin is needed. The risk at present is that people might act on a consensus that they believe might exist in this discussion, only to be sanctioned under the general sanctions if admins at ] disagree. It may be that no admin is formally needed to close the discussion - any uninvolved editor can close the discussion after all - but it would be entirely false to say that a close would serve no purpose or is not needed. It really is.

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	So would an uninvolved editor please close the discussion. If you feel the point is obvious, then great! In that case, please close it with a statement of the obvious. But it does need to be closed. '']'' <small>'']''</small> 23:01, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
			{{initiated\|22:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have petered out a month ago. Consensus seems unclear. ] (]) 02:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
	:As the initiator of the discussion in question, I concur with the need for an uninvolved editor or admin to review the discussion and determine whether a consensus has indeed been reached. The whole purpose of this discussion, as {{u\|Kahastok}} touched upon, was to determine a consensus for the use of metric vs. imperial units in the infobox of various personnel in association football. Without getting into too much detail here, the desire is to have a WikiProject-wide guideline for the use of height and weight units and how they would be inserted without the need for a discussion on every article which ''might'' be UK related as presently required by ]. The need for an uninvolved editor or admin is to avoid any appearance of the process being railroaded by a few editors. — ] <sup>]</sup><small>]</small><sub>]</sub> 00:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
			:{{a note}} Needs admin closure imho, due to its importance (guideline page), length (101kb), and questions about neutrality of the Rfc question and what it meant. ] (]) 21:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
			:: <small>And in true ] fashion, this discussion, quiescent for six weeks, has some more responses again. ] (]) 01:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
			:<s><nowiki>{{doing}}</nowiki></s> ] (]/]) 23:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
			::Oops; I put this in the wrong section. ] (]/]) 00:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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	This has now been archived ], but a close remains relevant. Would somebody please close it? '']'' <small>'']''</small> 09:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
			{{Initiated\|11:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)}} Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
			:{{a note}} This is a ] and subject to ]. - ] (]) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
			:'''] ''''']''''' , ] ] <small>22:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</small>

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			{{Initiated\|03:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)}}
	This RfC has only been going on for three weeks, but the discussion has well and truly ended, with no contribution for more than a week. (Also, it's a continuation of a previous discussion, and so the issue has been dragging on a long time.) I thought the consensus was clear to exclude the text under discussion, but I checked with the lone "include" !voter and he or she didn't think so. ]] (]) 19:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
			Discussion is slowing significantly. Likely no consensus, personally. ] (]) 03:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

			:Option 2 was very clearly rejected. The closer should try to see what specific principles people in the discussion agreed upon if going with a no consensus close, because there should be a follow-up RfC after some of the details are hammered out. <span class="nowrap">] (]) <small>(please ] me on reply)</small></span> 03:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
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			:{{Doing}} <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 13:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
	states : ''This RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges. It is recommended that this RfC be closed by an Admin - one who has no previous involvement in the AfC process.'' This RfC for an emergency measure has run for 11 days and participation has tailed off; a consensus appears to have been reached so would an uninvolved '''admin''' please consider closing it. --] (]) 05:10, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
			::{{yo\|Compassionate727}} Still working on this? — ] <sub>]</sub> 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
			::::Taking a pause is fair. Just wanted to double check. — ] <sub>]</sub> 00:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
			:asking for an update if possible. I think this RFC and previous RFCBEFORE convos were several TOMATS long at this point, so I get that this might take time. ] (]) 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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	From at WP:AN: {{quotation\|1=Would an admin assess the consensus the consensus at ] (initiated 5 February 2015)? According to at ], this is an "RfC for an emergency measure". Thank you, ] (]) 00:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
			{{Initiated\|18:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)\|done=yes}} - probably gonna stay status quo, but would like a closure to point to ] (]) 06:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
	:You mean to assess if there is a clear consensus? Despite this being an emergency measure, the RfC itself says "this RfC will run for 30 days or until a clear consensus emerges" so it should probably be allowed to continue to run the 30 days if there is no clear consensus. BTW, I'm seeing !votes on 1st February so I think the 5 February date must be wrong. ] (]) 14:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
			* Done ] (]) 21:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
	::Yes, thank you for reviewing the discussion and correcting the start day. ] (]) 08:06, 16 February 2015 (UTC)}} ] (]) 08:08, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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	:::I see that an ''involved party'' (namely, the user making the original proposal) has ''taken it upon himself'' to close the RfC even though he is not ], the RfC has only run for 15 of the normal 30 days and the proposal is controversial. I believe this should be reverted at once, but would prefer not to become involved in an edit war by reverting it myself. Comments? ] (]) 06:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
			{{initiated\|19:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)}} RfC has elapsed, and uninvolved closure is requested. — <span style="background: linear-gradient(#990000,#660000)">] <sub>]</sub></span> 15:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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			{{Initiated\|18:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)}} This RfC expired five days ago, has an unclear consensus, I am involved, and discussion has died down. ]<sub>]<sub>]</sub></sub> (]/]) 22:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
	I started this discussion, and I was expecting an automatic closure because I didn't know how the system worked. It was automatically archived. Is it too late? ] (]) 06:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|16:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)\|done=yes}} Very wide impact, not much heat. ] (]) 15:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|24 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

			* Consensus seems clear, I don't think my Indian-ness poses a ] here, closed. ] (]) 22:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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	Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|8 February 2015}}? A discussion participant wrote: "Since there appears to be no agreement between myself and involved admins, I would like to request closure by an uninvolved admin." Thanks, ] (]) 00:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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	~~RFC~~ ~~finished~~ a ~~while~~ ~~back and nobody's commented for around a week. Can an admin please assess consensus and close?~~ ] (]) 22:54, 14 ~~February~~ ~~2015~~ (UTC)		{{initiated\|16:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)}} ] (]) 17:50, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|22:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)}} Legobot has removed the RFC notice. Can we please get an interdependent close. '']''<sup>]</sup> 23:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an an uninvolved administrator please assess the consensus at ] ''after February 16 at 00:16 UTC''. {{Initiated\|15 February 2015}} Note that the discussion is over 40,000 words. Thank you. <span style="background-color:#B7D9F9;padding:0px 3px;border-radius:3px">] <span style="border-left:1px solid #0E5CA4;padding-left:3px">]</span></span> 02:55, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

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			{{Initiated\|22:51, 8 December 2024}} No further participation in the last 7 days. Consensus is clear but I am the opener of the RfC and am not comfortable closing something I am so closely involved in, so would like somebody uninvolved to close it if they believe it to be appropriate.] (]) 16:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|9 January 2015}}? Please consider the closed RfCs ] (Initiated 6 May 2014) and ] (Initiated 26 November 2014) in your close. Thanks, ] (]) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
			:I'm not comfortable closing a discussion on a guideline change this early. In any case, if the discussion continues as it has been, a formal closure won't be necessary. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 13:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|25 September 2024}} Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|4 January 2015}}? Thanks, ] (]) 01:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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	:The consensus seems clear, but from the page history it seems that this was never advertised as an RfC. As such, I'm not sure if a close would be helpful here, since it could be challenged on the grounds of needing input from a wider section of the community before a site-wide change. Any thoughts on closing with this rationale, and/or reopening the discussion with the RfC template attached? ''''']''''' ''<font size="1.8">(])</font>'' 05:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
			{{initiated\|11:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)}} Experienced closer requested. ―] ] 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\|14:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)}} This needs formal closure by someone uninvolved. ] (]) 03:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an uninvolved administrator please assess consensus and close this discussion? Much obliged. ] — ] 05:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
			:I think it would be better to leave that discussion be. There is no consensus one way or the other. I could close it as "no consensus," but I think it would be better to just leave it so that if there's ever anyone else who has a thought on the matter, they can comment in that discussion instead of needing to open a new one. <span style="white-space: nowrap;">—] <sup>(]·])</sup></span> 14:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

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	~~This~~ ~~thread,~~ ~~which~~ ~~eilicited~~ ~~substantial~~ ~~discussion~~ ~~and~~ ~~polling,~~ ~~has~~ ~~been~~ ~~auto-archived~~ ~~without~~ ~~closure.~~ In ~~fairness~~ to ~~all and to avoid repeating discussion of these issues in the future, an~~ ~~Admin~~ is needed to ~~undo the archiving and~~ evaluate consensus in ~~order to resolve~~ this ~~matter~~. Thanks. ]] 14:42, 22 ~~February~~ ~~2015~~ (UTC)		{{initiated\|29 October 2024}} There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. ]] 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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			{{initiated\| 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC) \|type=rm}} RM that has been open for over a month. ] (]) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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			{{initiated\|11:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)}} Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. ] (] • ]) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
	Would an admin assess the consensus at ] {{Initiated\|26 December 2014}} Thanks, <code><span style="font-family: consolas;font-weight: bold">]]]</span></code> 21:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
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	Would an admin look at these three DRV discussions, close them and eventually re-close (or relist wit an appropriate rationale) the three relevant AfDs? The situation requires an immediate action, as the AfD closes were vacated and the three AfDs are "virtually" reopened, and, citing one editor, "AfD and DRV running on the same article at the same time is just crazy". ] 07:00, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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(Initiated 100 days ago on 17 September 2024) everybody has forgotten about that discussion, but it needs closure. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 79 days ago on 7 October 2024) Tough one, died down, will expire tomorrow. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 70 days ago on 16 October 2024) Discussion seems to have petered out a month ago. Consensus seems unclear. Gnomingstuff (talk) 02:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Note: Needs admin closure imho, due to its importance (guideline page), length (101kb), and questions about neutrality of the Rfc question and what it meant. Mathglot (talk) 21:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

And in true Streisand effect fashion, this discussion, quiescent for six weeks, has some more responses again. Mathglot (talk) 01:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 59 days ago on 28 October 2024) Participation/discussion has mostly stopped & is unlikely to pick back up again. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 46 days ago on 10 November 2024) Discussion is slowing significantly. Likely no consensus, personally. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Option 2 was very clearly rejected. The closer should try to see what specific principles people in the discussion agreed upon if going with a no consensus close, because there should be a follow-up RfC after some of the details are hammered out. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 03:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Doing... —Compassionate727 13:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Compassionate727: Still working on this? — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Ugh… in practice, no. I'm still willing to do it, but it's in hiatus because of the three(!) pending challenges of my closures at AN, while I evaluate to what extent I need to change how I approach closures. If somebody else wants to take over this, they should feel free. —Compassionate727 22:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Taking a pause is fair. Just wanted to double check. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 00:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

asking for an update if possible. I think this RFC and previous RFCBEFORE convos were several TOMATS long at this point, so I get that this might take time. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment#RFC_on_signing_RFCs

(Initiated 42 days ago on 13 November 2024) - probably gonna stay status quo, but would like a closure to point to Bluethricecreamman (talk) 06:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Done Soni (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 39 days ago on 16 November 2024) Very wide impact, not much heat. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 17 days ago on 8 December 2024) No further participation in the last 7 days. Consensus is clear but I am the opener of the RfC and am not comfortable closing something I am so closely involved in, so would like somebody uninvolved to close it if they believe it to be appropriate.RachelTensions (talk) 16:00, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not comfortable closing a discussion on a guideline change this early. In any case, if the discussion continues as it has been, a formal closure won't be necessary. —Compassionate727 13:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 92 days ago on 25 September 2024) Open for a while, requesting uninvolved closure. Andre🚐 22:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 71 days ago on 16 October 2024) Experienced closer requested. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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(Initiated 69 days ago on 18 October 2024) This needs formal closure by someone uninvolved. N2e (talk) 03:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be better to leave that discussion be. There is no consensus one way or the other. I could close it as "no consensus," but I think it would be better to just leave it so that if there's ever anyone else who has a thought on the matter, they can comment in that discussion instead of needing to open a new one. —Compassionate727 14:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Winter fuel payment abolition backlash#Merge proposal

(Initiated 58 days ago on 29 October 2024) There are voices on both sides (ie it is not uncontroversial) so a non-involved editor is needed to evaluate consensus and close this. Thanks. PamD 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Stadion Miejski (Białystok)#Requested move 5 November 2024

(Initiated 50 days ago on 5 November 2024) RM that has been open for over a month. Natg 19 (talk) 02:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Shiv Sena#Merge proposal

(Initiated 29 days ago on 27 November 2024) Discussion seems to have stopped. As the proposal is not uncontroversial, and I, as the initiator, am involved, I am requesting an uninvolved editor to close the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 11:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Williamsburg Bray School#Splitting proposal

(Initiated 29 days ago on 27 November 2024) Only two editors—the nominator and myself—have participated. That was two weeks ago. Just needs an uninvolved third party for closure. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:37, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Doing... BusterD (talk) 20:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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