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== Semiconductor companies considered State-owned enterprises? ==

I've been making quite few articles on publicly listed Chinese semiconductor companies recently. I noticed many of them have ] investing in them. Or they are supported by government related entities like ] because they were originally projects that commercialized into full companies. Since they are now listed, government ownership for many of them is in the minority region.

So the question is do I just say these companies types are ]? Or do I have to also say they are also ]? Technically speaking many China publicly listed companies you will find some government related entity having a small ownership. But I don't know does that mean we have to go around putting the SOE label for almost everyone one of them. ] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">]</span> 03:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
:Even private corporations can have national or public entities as investors. I wouldn't consider them to be state-owned solely on that basis. ] (]) 12:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
::I agree, a minority government stake doesn't make a company state-owned. —]&nbsp;(] '''·''' ]) 13:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

== Noodles ==

There is ] which may be of interests to members of this project. ]'']'' 13:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

== ''Expelled members of the Chinese Communist Party'' category ==

In light of the ongoing ], many articles in the then-very large {{c|Expelled members of the Chinese Communist Party}} category have recently been diffused to yearly categories. However, there are a number of articles that could not be "dated" because there is no information on when they were expelled: they need information on when they were expelled, with reliable sources whenever possible. Also, some older expulsions may need to be combined into a category called "People expelled from the Chinese Communist Party before 1990" or something but I have trouble making {{tl|Category series navigation}} detect the "cut-off" category. --] <small>(])</small> 19:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

==Discussion at ]==
]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at ]. -- ] (]) 10:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)<!-- ] -->
:] is a newly created article that needs to be assessed. Perhaps someone from this WikiProject could take a look at it, and also assess whether the article's title should be "EVE" or "Eve". It's possible that EVE is a translation of the company's Chinese name,but it's also possible that capitalization is just for stylistic reasons. -- ] (]) 10:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

== Chinese Buddhist history ==

Hi I am wanting to make contact with another editor that has a good understanding of Chinese Buddhism.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 ] (]) 02:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

== Featured lists that need work to avoid removal nominations ==

Hello. I'm not a regular participant in this project, but I am a delegate at ]. I wanted to note that a couple featured lists I stumbled across don't meet our modern day requirements.
* ]
* ]


To be more specific, neither one is accessible (row and column scopes are a requirement at FLC now). I don't want to nominate these for featured list removal, as they're both part of featured topics, so I thought I'd bring it up here first as an opportunity for interested editors to make the relevant improvements. ] (]) 15:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
== ] ==


:Oh, that's the intersection I'm the most qualified editor for. Will fix this up ASAP, thanks! <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 15:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Would it meet our article title naming standards to call it "BeiDou", or simply "Beidou"? --]<sub>]•]•]</sub> 05:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
:@] how do they look at present? I feel like I tackled major points but if there's anything else you're noticing LMK <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff">&nbsp;‥&nbsp;</span>]</span> 04:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
::Much better @]. Improved enough I'm not going to be looking through them with a fine toothed comb :P Thank you for your work on these!
::Though I do think the specifications for column lengths could be improved (in ]), I'm not bothered enough by it to force the issue or anything. ] (]) 13:05, 6 December 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
==Sammi Cheng==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (] • ]) 21:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
{{tl|Sammi Cheng}}
FYI: All the ] subarticles were redirected to ] on 1 March 2015 by someone. ] and ] are now empty, so are also likely to be speedily deleted. {{tl|Sammi Cheng}} has now been nominated for deletion. -- ] (]) 07:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


== Xpost: image of characters in Infobox Chinese ==
== Possible sources on Chinese Americans ==


Xposting discussion at ]. This would affect a significant number of China-related articles, would appreciate input. ] (]) 07:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
*Cao, Yan. "" () (master's thesis). ]. December 2004.
*Kuo, Joyce. "" (). '']''. January 1998. Volume 5, Article 7. p. 181-212.


== Can ] be rescued or should it be deleted? ==
I don't know which articles will find these most helpful...
] (]) 05:44, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


Since speedies/DRV don't registser well in the deletion discussion alerts, I'll link this discussion here. This is an article translated from zh wiki, speedied as an attack page and now being discussed at DRV (effectively a deletion discussion). <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
== ] ==


== Chinese numbers for ] ==
The article is being hounded to death by several IPs (likely the same person or meatpuppets) insisting that Cao Cao was an emperor because his "official" title was Emperor Wu of Wei. Of course we all know that this title is posthumous and we typically don't consider posthumously-named emperors to be emperors themselves. Is there a guideline on Misplaced Pages or scholarship that explicitly points this out? The root of the problem in this article is that it's not well referenced with modern sources, so if anyone can help in this regard, that would be great. ] (]) 00:16, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


I am writing this; the source I am using, while recent and reliable, states that the number of Chinese POWs who died in WW2 are unknown. I assume this is a sad example of Western bias, as surely there should be some estimates for that from Chinese scholars?
: {{ping|Underbar dk|Lds}} This is signature {{u|ProfessorJane}}, who since being blocked has been using some kind of VPN/mobile service to disrupt from a large number of IP's. This user is obsessed with aggrandizing historical figures and pushing an ultranationalistic POV. See page histories of ], ], ], ], etc. -] (]) 05:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
:: {{ping|Zanhe}} <s>I'm not so sure. The modus operandi looks a bit different, with this user obsessing over calling PRC "communist" and Taiwan "democratic" in ], which seems at odds with ProfessorJane's insistence of using "Republic of China (Taiwan)" everywhere and their ultranationalistic Chinese agenda.</s><small>Actually, after reading more closely, I rescind this statement.</small> Thanks for lead, we certainly should keep an eye out for these users and their methods. ] (]) 06:19, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Underbar dk|Zanhe}} It might be helpful to keep a lookout for other Cao Cao- and Three Kingdoms-related articles as well. See . <span style= "font-family: Georgia; font-size: 9pt">] <sub> ]</sub></span> 06:38, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


If someone is interested in this topic area, note that we still do not have any article about Japanese war crimes against the POWs. I just finished one for the Germans, which also was missing... see the linked article for list of what we have. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 01:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== Jay Chou article ==


:Update: I have now created ]. The best estimate for Chinese POW I have is "tens of thousands every year", with an unknown fatality rate outside the somewhat shocking statistics that only 56 Chinese POWs were released after Japan surrendered. Can anyone find anything better? <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]&#124;]</sub> 15:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
The Jay Chou article is a FA, but it contains many citaion needed tags. Can someone fix these. I'm tempted to start a FAR if these issues are not addressed.--] (]) 00:12, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


== ] of ] ==
== How to best display Chinese in pages of overseas-Hong Kong persons? ==
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The article ] has been ]&#32;because of the following concern:
Please see ] for a discussion on how best to display Chinese for overseas Hong Kong persons (Canadians of Hong Kong origin, etc.) such as ], ], and ]? Among the issues:
<blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved for 15 years. No articles in Mandarin or other Chinese languages to expand. Run of the mill, very small charity. Not enough information to merge.'''</blockquote>
* Should the Chinese be embedded in the person's infobox? (as opposed to ])
* Should Cantonese and Mandarin be included, or only Cantonese?
* Should Simplified Chinese be included with the Traditional characters?
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== Opinion ==


You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your ] or on ].
At ] I found an opinion arguing that Misplaced Pages should relax its notability standards when dealing with places outside of the USA. You guys may want to take a look at it.


Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the ], but other ]es exist. In particular, the ] process can result in deletion without discussion, and ] allows discussion to reach ] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> ] (]) 02:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I would like for you to provide insight on what sources are "reliable." I will reply there too.
] (]) 14:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


== Proposed split of ] ==
==Transformers in (PR) China==
I have proposed a split of the ] article which may be of interest to this project. I would appreciate your thoughts in the discussion on the ]. ] (]) 11:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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== ] == == ] spelling ==


Hi there, I and another editor are discussing whether ] should be moved to "Chen Congying". I would love additional input from editors more familiar with Chinese to English transliteration/romanization on whether the move should happen or not. ] (]) 18:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Are there any Chinese speakers who could help in sourcing this article about a reporter for the '']'', Chinese-language American newspaper? It's quite possible that there are articles in the Chinese-language press, but they're hard to find and interpret without a knowledge of the language. The article is being discussed for deletion at ]. – ] (]) 06:33, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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Semiconductor companies considered State-owned enterprises?

I've been making quite few articles on publicly listed Chinese semiconductor companies recently. I noticed many of them have China Integrated Circuit Industry Investment Fund investing in them. Or they are supported by government related entities like Chinese Academy of Sciences because they were originally projects that commercialized into full companies. Since they are now listed, government ownership for many of them is in the minority region.

So the question is do I just say these companies types are Public? Or do I have to also say they are also State-owned enterprises? Technically speaking many China publicly listed companies you will find some government related entity having a small ownership. But I don't know does that mean we have to go around putting the SOE label for almost everyone one of them. Imcdc Contact 03:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Even private corporations can have national or public entities as investors. I wouldn't consider them to be state-owned solely on that basis. CurryCity (talk) 12:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree, a minority government stake doesn't make a company state-owned. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 13:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Noodles

There is a discussion which may be of interests to members of this project. SerialNumber54129 13:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Expelled members of the Chinese Communist Party category

In light of the ongoing anti-corruption campaign under Xi Jinping, many articles in the then-very large Expelled members of the Chinese Communist Party category have recently been diffused to yearly categories. However, there are a number of articles that could not be "dated" because there is no information on when they were expelled: they need information on when they were expelled, with reliable sources whenever possible. Also, some older expulsions may need to be combined into a category called "People expelled from the Chinese Communist Party before 1990" or something but I have trouble making {{Category series navigation}} detect the "cut-off" category. --Minoa (talk) 19:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:EVE Energy § Article title

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:EVE Energy § Article title. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

EVE Energy is a newly created article that needs to be assessed. Perhaps someone from this WikiProject could take a look at it, and also assess whether the article's title should be "EVE" or "Eve". It's possible that EVE is a translation of the company's Chinese name,but it's also possible that capitalization is just for stylistic reasons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Chinese Buddhist history

Hi I am wanting to make contact with another editor that has a good understanding of Chinese Buddhism.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Foristslow (talk) 02:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Featured lists that need work to avoid removal nominations

Hello. I'm not a regular participant in this project, but I am a delegate at WP:FLC. I wanted to note that a couple featured lists I stumbled across don't meet our modern day requirements.

To be more specific, neither one is accessible (row and column scopes are a requirement at FLC now). I don't want to nominate these for featured list removal, as they're both part of featured topics, so I thought I'd bring it up here first as an opportunity for interested editors to make the relevant improvements. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Oh, that's the intersection I'm the most qualified editor for. Will fix this up ASAP, thanks! Remsense ‥  15:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
@Hey man im josh how do they look at present? I feel like I tackled major points but if there's anything else you're noticing LMK Remsense ‥  04:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Much better @Remsense. Improved enough I'm not going to be looking through them with a fine toothed comb :P Thank you for your work on these!
Though I do think the specifications for column lengths could be improved (in List of emperors of the Han dynasty), I'm not bothered enough by it to force the issue or anything. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:05, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tajiks of Xinjiang#Requested move 28 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tajiks of Xinjiang#Requested move 28 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Alpha3031 (tc) 21:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Xpost: image of characters in Infobox Chinese

Xposting discussion at Template talk:Infobox Chinese#Image of characters. This would affect a significant number of China-related articles, would appreciate input. seefooddiet (talk) 07:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Can Controversy_over_Baidu be rescued or should it be deleted?

Since speedies/DRV don't registser well in the deletion discussion alerts, I'll link this discussion here. This is an article translated from zh wiki, speedied as an attack page and now being discussed at DRV (effectively a deletion discussion). Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 03:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Chinese numbers for Prisoners of war in World War II

I am writing this; the source I am using, while recent and reliable, states that the number of Chinese POWs who died in WW2 are unknown. I assume this is a sad example of Western bias, as surely there should be some estimates for that from Chinese scholars?

If someone is interested in this topic area, note that we still do not have any article about Japanese war crimes against the POWs. I just finished one for the Germans, which also was missing... see the linked article for list of what we have. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Update: I have now created Allied prisoners of war in Japan. The best estimate for Chinese POW I have is "tens of thousands every year", with an unknown fatality rate outside the somewhat shocking statistics that only 56 Chinese POWs were released after Japan surrendered. Can anyone find anything better? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Edu-Aid in YongNing

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Proposed split of Landlord deity

I have proposed a split of the Landlord deity article which may be of interest to this project. I would appreciate your thoughts in the discussion on the talk page. Erynamrod (talk) 11:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Chen Zongying spelling

Hi there, I and another editor are discussing whether Chen Zongying should be moved to "Chen Congying". I would love additional input from editors more familiar with Chinese to English transliteration/romanization on whether the move should happen or not. ForsythiaJo (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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