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* '''Normal humans''': I'm not online very often these days, and when I am, I don't have much stomach for anything complicated, stressful, depressing, or time consuming. {{Red|You probably should ask another admin if you need something that will take more than a few minutes, that you need done soon, or that will require more than minimal thought.}} * '''Normal humans''': I'm not around that much, so {{red|it's probably best to ask another admin for help}}.
* '''Admins''': I'm not online very often these days, so if you think an admin action I've taken is wrong or no longer useful, {{Red|go ahead and undo or change it without feeling like you have to talk to me first.}} * '''Admins''': If you think an admin action I've taken in the past is wrong or no longer useful, {{Red|just go ahead and undo or change it.}}
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== December music ==
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] comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --] (]) 17:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks Gerda! ] (]) 17:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
== AN filing ==
:: On the Main page today ] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's ] from the ]. We ] today. --] (]) 20:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
:::<s>Ode to Joy! ] (]) 16:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)</s> Oops, got my symphonies confused. Note to self: look stuff up to be sure BEFORE hitting publish, not right after. --] (]) 16:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: You could give me the same note, all the time. Interesting photographer in my story, - just look at youtube if you have little time. - Some new pics that look like vacation, - beach, from the third monastery, and dinner there, for the first time in a restaurant on the trip. - How do you like my Notre-Dame pic? --] (]) 19:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: Listen today to the (new) ]. --] (]) 10:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: Listen today to ]'s 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the ] when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with ], because he was on my ] this year, and I was in Brazil (see places, particularly stunning today), and I love his playing. --] (]) 16:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: I come to fix the cellist's name, with ] and new pics - look for red birds --] (]) 19:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: Today is ]. --] (]) 16:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: ] today (remember November?) - if you have the time, take the YouTube walk by a young man from from Jamaica, speaking English. --] (]) 21:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: ] it's another great woman, soprano ], and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote ] for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --] (]) 21:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: My ] is about ], 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy! --] (]) 15:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: Similarly, my ] is about ], 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. An aria is inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy! --] (]) 22:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: My ] is different. --] (]) 19:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for a year of interesting articles and beautiful pictures and kind words. Have a great New Years Eve, and I'm hoping for a better-than-expected 2025. --] (])


== January music ==
Floquenbeam,
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I saw your notice. Since I mentioned your name and our agreement during an AN filing, I thought I'd give you a heads up about it just in case you wanted to add anything to it or comment on it. ]. Thanks. <span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em blue">]] </span> 11:23, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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:Thanks for the notice, I'm in "meh" mode right now as far as WP is concerned, so I won't be commenting there. --] (]) 14:05, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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== Full protection ==
Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- ] (]) 17:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

What justification was there to protect that talk page? ] (]) 17:22, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
:To stop you from shit stirring was one. To stop you from making an unfortunate situation regarding a living breathing human being worse is another. I have a few others, but I'll save them for the inevitable ANI. --] (]) 17:24, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
::Really, thank you for that, it is exactly what was needed. In fact you beat me to it by just a few seconds. Some people just can't see the forest through the trees and apparently believe that the letter of our policies is god's own law and nothing else matters. ] (]) 17:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
::::No problem. While you're here, {{ping|Beeblebrox}}, do you have any problem if I restore RG's talk page access in a week or so? It might be useful for him to talk to other people ''before'' the block expires, but ''after'' a bit of a break. --] (]) 17:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
:::Support protection. --] 17:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
:], '''use your common sense'''. This isn't RGloucester's first kick at the can and past history has shown that when he's upset, he tends to make really, really unfortunate remarks. --] <sup>]</sup> 17:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

*I don't mind if you restore it early. Of course I am operating under the assumption that if he starts back up with the crazy nonsense you'll yank it back. ] (]) 17:44, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

:Just in case you missed it: that IP was our old pal Kumioko/Regyula. I should have recognized the style with all the hating on admins and self-pity. I do believe I am going to shut this machine off and do something else. (i.e. drinking) This whole episode is just sad and depressing on every level. ] (]) 01:12, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
::(a) Yes, of course.
::(b) I hadn't picked up on that, although in retrospect it was classic Kumioko. I should have known. --] (]) 14:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

== Notice ==
] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is ]. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you. ] (]) 21:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
:Over before I got back. But at least you had fun, which is the important thing. --] (]) 14:00, 19 April 2015 (UTC)



== Re ] ==

Floquenbeam,
I see you blocked this user, but he's now abusing his page by pinging people telling them that he'll be back in 12 months. Childish stuff, but still, he probably should have his talk page access cut off <span style="font face="Papyrus" size="4" font-weight:bold">] ]</span> 23:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
:Looks like Reaper Eternal got it. --] (]) 00:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
::That user sent me a ping also, before they were banned. When I looked thru the history I saw the name "dodo bird die". That user is a sockpuppet!!!!!! If you go to my user page and go thru my history you will see someone with the name Epicgenius 2 or Dodo birds die, vandalizing my page, and if you go on their history, you will also see that they had also messed around with other peoples pages with vandalism and profanity!] (]) 17:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

== is the discussion about me on ANI over yet ==

if yes can u archive it?] (]) 16:42, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

:I don't know enough about you to close that thread, and I'm not going to wade through it. I suspect if I did, I would block you from editing. But I have seen enough to tell you not to comment on ANI threads that do not already directly concern you, or I will block you from editing. You're giving too much incorrect information/advice, and complicating threads that don't affect you. You need to focus on the fact that a '''lot''' of people are saying '''your''' edits are a problem, and not focus on other people's problems.

:Also, you should stop editing Misplaced Pages from your phone; according to you, it's causing problems, and according to everyone else, they're having to clean it up.

:I'll cross-post this to your talk page to make sure you see it. --] (]) 17:04, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

::I don't know if you have seen it but there is a section at ANI about Door ] Im doing my best to ] but with edits like these: , it becomes hard to. I feel that plenty of editors have done their best to reach out here but how far does it go? - ] (]) 01:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:::That's what the thread title is about... I'm not going to get involved in that thread, some other admin will deal with it eventually. --] (]) 01:52, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

== Archiving ] ==
Hey, Flo, <br>
There is an editor that I believe is trying to be helpful and is archiving cases on ] that they believe are finished. But there is a bot that takes care of that, right? I wasn't sure about undoing all of ]'s edits and you look like the last admin to comment on the noticeboard. <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 18:52, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

:{{ping|Liz}}, Lowercasesigmabot archives threads that have had no edits in 48 hours (or maybe 36, I'm not sure). It looks like Mdann52 is going through and clearing out threads that don't meet that criterion, but are still stale and taking up a lot of bandwidth. If he's archiving threads that should be archived, he's doing us a favor. If he's archiving threads that shouldn't be archived, you can ask him to be more cautious when choosing threads to remove. I've seen him do it before, though, with no complaints I'm aware of, so if I have to ''guess'', I'd say he's probably do it right. Why, are there threads you don't think are "done" yet? If so, drop him a note on his talk page. If not, then I think he's helping. --] (]) 19:01, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
:: Sounds like I owe ] a big apology! To be honest, looking at the most recent archive, the cases weren't closed. But I realize that not all archived cases are closed, some are left unresolved. And while I've seen editors/admins take cases ''out'' of the archive (if they were archived prematurely), I'll admit that I've never seen anyone put cases ''in'' the archives. I thought only the bot handled that. But if this is not unusual and it's just new to me, that's cool. My apologies, Mdann52! <font face="Papyrus" size="4" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 19:35, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

== INB ==

I had interacted OccultZone at , he is active there. ] (]) 01:51, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:OK, thanks. Do you know the other three? I'm quite puzzled by this pattern. --] (]) 01:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
::You can update this to the ANI, and I have never seen those other three before. ANI is just full of people who you don't know, now I am not sure who is 50.0.136.194, but he is commenting like a pro. ] (]) 01:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

== ] ==
{{archive top|This is insane. Have this discussion somewhere else. It's too depressing to be constantly reminded that people have this little consideration for the very long list of people Kumioko has harassed. Up to and including '''yesterday'''. --] (]) 11:13, 21 April 2015 (UTC)}}
Hello Floquenbeam. I hope you are well. I have been speaking with Kumioko via IRC in the unblock channel. I will be the first to admit I have not followed the Kumioko saga. I will also agree that past attempts to resolve editing behavior have not worked well. That said, I see you have removed his ability to edit his talk page. While I understand the reasoning behind this, I would like to ask that you lift it. I have been speaking with Kumioko who is willing to post an unblock request with what I consider to be reasonable conditions. Thanks, ] <sup>]</sup> 02:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:Wait, what? Why the fuck are you talking to him about an unblock request, when his previous indef block was reduced to 6 months on the condition he not edit WP during that time, and he has since socked dozens of times since then? The latest '''yesterday'''? There are no "reasonable conditions", he had ''un''reasonable conditions '''in his favor''' and he refused to meet them. He requested an unblock a little while ago on UTRS and was denied. He has had talk page access removed since November, and several months before that, due to serial socking. And he's not socking to edit articles, he's socking to stir shit. How could you possibly believe anything he says? Aren't you a functionary, for God's sake? Aren't you supposed to have some tiny iota of clue? No, I won't change the block settings, and I will be deeply, deeply disappointed if you do. --] (]) 02:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
::(]) I'm disappointed by your response, not your answer, but your response. Yes, I am a functionary, but that does not mean I have to engage in group-think. Additionally, as a fellow functionary I would expect more respect from you. As I stated above, I have not followed the Kumioko saga. Instead of calling me clueless, you could have briefly explained your opinion and provided me with the history that lead to your decision. If this is how you react to administrators who come here in good faith to you to discuss your ], then you should not be performing the actions. Anyways, my apologies for disturbing you. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:::Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 8,673 times, and on Misplaced Pages you get another chance. ] (]) 02:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
::::So if I say something mean to Tiptoety 8,672 more times, he won't be mad anymore? --] (]) 03:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
::+1 in the absolutely shocked by the nature of your response. Floquenbeam, that's quite, quite unnecessary and wholly unacceptable. I'd like to see you apologise to Tiptoety and seriously think about resigning, if that's how you're going to respond to people trying to work in a collaborative environment. ] (]) 10:15, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:::Opinion noted, and given the consideration it deserves. --] (]) 10:17, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
*Any unblock of Kumioko at this point in time would be, to be blunt, incredibly stupid. ] ] 10:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:*If we can keep Kumioko away from perpetually criticising ArbCom and various administrators, we will get an enormous amount of good quality content for very little trouble, which is all that we want ask of anybody editing here - have a very low noise to signal ratio.
::The problem we face with Kumioko, perhaps more so than any other blocked user, is that the block is feeding the pattern of bad behaviour. He's a user who has become steadily more disruptive because of some really quite bad administrative decisions concerning him, and to continue to insist those administrative decisions should stay as they are is really just continuing to pour fuel on the fire. I don't know if reversing those administrative decisions will extinguish the fire or not, but it's abundantly clear the current course of action isn't working and it's genuinely worthwhile trying something different.
::The blocks are cheap, if unblocking Kumioko doesn't work, he can be re-blocked. If he's unblocked, there would naturally need to be editing restrictions, the one I favour is Kumioko not commenting on any administrative action or discussion that doesn't involve him directly, so no crusades and interjections at ANI.
::It has to be worth trying something - he was a damn good content creator, and in between his bouts of poking administrators with a stick, he still churns out some excellent content. I know some of the articles he wants to work on too, and I have no doubt if he can be kept to editing pretty much just those articles, we stand a good chance of getting back a good editor out of all of this. ] (]) 10:39, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


:Happy New Year, Gerda! I actually had a chance to click on one of your watch/listen links! Very cool. --] (]) 15:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
*Kumioko has been such a pest. I know Floquenbeam has tried to work with him, talk to him, and assume good faith of him, and has been burned for his pains. So have I, but Floq more, because he has more patience. But I still think, if the surely reasonably cynical ] thinks it's worth a shot after extended discussion with K, then we should try unblocking, ''with'' restrictions similar to what Nick proposes. You won't catch me saying reblocks are cheap, because they're not, they're damn expensive, but nevertheless. ] &#124; ] 11:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC).
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MEH
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  • Normal humans: I'm not around that much, so it's probably best to ask another admin for help.
  • Admins: If you think an admin action I've taken in the past is wrong or no longer useful, just go ahead and undo or change it.
  • WP:SOLVED
  • WP:LIGHTBULB
  • WP:VOGONS
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Folly, thou conquerest, and I must yield!
Against stupidity the very gods
Themselves contend in vain. --Friedrich Schiller


Archives


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December music

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Today's story comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! Floquenbeam (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Ode to Joy! Floquenbeam (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC) Oops, got my symphonies confused. Note to self: look stuff up to be sure BEFORE hitting publish, not right after. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
You could give me the same note, all the time. Interesting photographer in my story, - just look at youtube if you have little time. - Some new pics that look like vacation, - beach, from the third monastery, and dinner there, for the first time in a restaurant on the trip. - How do you like my Notre-Dame pic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places, particularly stunning today), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
I come to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Today is a woman poet's centenary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Hauptfriedhof Mainz today (remember November?) - if you have the time, take the YouTube walk by a young man from from Jamaica, speaking English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Today it's another great woman, soprano Sigrid Kehl, and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote seven cantatas for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
My first Christmas story is about Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Similarly, my second Christmas story is about Christum wir sollen loben schon, BWV 121, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. An aria is inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
My third Christmas story is different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for a year of interesting articles and beautiful pictures and kind words. Have a great New Years Eve, and I'm hoping for a better-than-expected 2025. --Floquenbeam (talk)

January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Gerda! I actually had a chance to click on one of your watch/listen links! Very cool. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)