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== Mediation == | |||
Will you seek ] regarding your dispute with ]? ] ] 10:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
:It isn't clear what we would mediate about. Midgley launched a series of personal attacks against me throughout Misplaced Pages; I documented these attacks and defended myself against them. You, rather fantastically, conclude that both sides are equally wrong/right and encourage mediation. I have to give this some thought, to be honest. If neither I nor anyone else has the right to defend himself/herself against personal attacks such as those perpetrated by Midgley, we have a serious problem. --] 14:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
::You are engaged in a dispute with ], and mediation is one form of dispute resolution. Will you therefore seek mediation? ] ] 16:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::Steve, please refer to the above response. I am giving this some thought, as I indicated. For the record, I reject the premise that this is about a dispute. I have, for the time being, disengaged from the articles we're disagreeing about; if Midgley doesn't make any more personal attacks, the page in question will fall into disuse. --] 17:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Have you come to a decision as to whether to seek mediation or not? ] ] 12:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::I just don't understand what we're supposed to mediate about? Please enlighten me: what have I done that I should stop doing so that Midgley will stop his personal attacks on me, not to mention his recent interest in other articles I've edited about Norway. At this point, I'm not even sure what we're disagreeing about - I've left ] to its inevitable fate when some of the alleged "anti-vaccinationists" call the office. --] 23:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::*If you believe that User:Midgley is making personal attacks against you, and that you are unclear what you are disagreeing about, that is reason enough to seek mediation. It is quite clear there is a dispute between you two. Will you seek mediation? User:Midgley has indicated he will. ] ] 07:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::I have ''documented'' that Midgley has made numerous personal attacks against me. There are no current personal attacks, because I have stayed away from articles that we disagree about. So, there is no current dispute. I am open to mediation, but I am trying to understand what we are mediating about. --] 10:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
The above exchange is one of the clearest examples of direct bullying I have seen on Misplaced Pages yet. Here we have ] being blamed for the unusual behaviour and editing practices of ] aka according to his user page as Dr Adrian Midgley, Exeter GP. It is not ]'s obligation to regulate Misplaced Pages. Regrettably, however, there are a number of Admins who seem positively to think it is acceptable to let ] continue with this unusual behaviour and these practices unchecked. | |||
== The ] Newsletter (September 2009) == | |||
Trying to bully someone into mediation over something that is caused by the unchecked behaviour of another user seems to defy common-sense - but then, this is Misplaced Pages. | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron/Newsletter/20090901}} | |||
] 07:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC) 07:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
:This user's behaviour is disruptive. He was in the start of this row - where it is quite possible an even slightly emollient, or wise, or helpfully detailed intervention owuld have saved a lot of aggravation and is still here trying to get more mileage out of his trolling. Have a look at his contributions to see what he has added that is in any way helpful to producing an encyclopaedia. The answer is not nothing, but it is barely perceptible among the other postings, rather a lot of which are disruptive. The issue of the username is bizarre. If you look at the earliest edits recorded, you'll see an attack on me. This does make me think that some of this is a continuation of anti-vaccinationist and anti-medical trolling in the rapid responses of the BMJ. Perhaps I should be flattered, but I'd prefer to get on with an encyclopaedia, and this user is not an asset to WP. ] 19:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Maybe, but your behavior is at least as disruptive, and sanctimonious in addition. And it's interesting that you've taken to following me around lately, making edits on unrelated articles. --] 01:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::We do seem to overlap in some areas, however I have not noticed you following me to most of the areas I edit in. ] 14:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Last I checked, I was the first to edit articles on Norwegian politics and the Battle of Springfield. I have absolutely no idea what else you're involved in; but your efforts are working - my inclination is to stay away from Misplaced Pages. Congratulations - by being an insufferable fool and jerk, you have pretty much driven me away. --] 00:19, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::SWYMD? ] 13:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::It's been my observation that things will end up in the right place without my participation, though perhaps a bit later. Anti-vaccinationist will end up in the dustbin where it belongs; articles on thimerosal, vaccines, homeopathy, etc., will eventually become NPOV; all the arguments you think you've won will be overturned, and you'll either have to sign up for intellectual integrity or find a more receptive place for POV-pushing. But I'm tired of dealing with it all. --] 16:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::"Det er etter de gode ord det gror, ikke etter småskårenhet og pirkeri. Det har ennå ikke flyttet verden et lusefjed." Johan Falkberget ] 03:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
===Bullying=== | |||
Leifern, do you believe my offer of mediation to be bullying in any way, shape or form? ] ] 21:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:No, I actually think you have good intentions. --] 00:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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The above response by ] is commendable. I am more questioning with reason (ie. not presumption). Like him here, I was challenged to agree to mediation with ] when there was no dispute - see ] - and when I and another were subject to personal attacks by ] - see ]. Despite no dispute being identified, and my having said there was no dispute ] started an RfC over a new dispute which was not the subject of the request for mediation - see ]. Accordingly, I find it odd that ] was asked three times to agree to mediation over a dispute with ] that also does not appear to have existed at the time the request was made. Those requests bear the implication an RfC (and more) might ensue if mediation were not agreed to. | |||
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A further similarity is that this arose after I assisted another editor ] who complains of the same thing ] complains of which is that ] started following her around Misplaced Pages and doing battle with her on pages he would not normally have been involved with after she assisted me over ]'s stalking me and impersonating me. See ] and ] - and see ]'s contributions regarding the ] page ] created here ] and here ] | |||
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] 13:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
You have previously been advised strongly by an admin to either shut up or call an RFC. I suggest you either shut up or call an RFC. ] 00:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
I do not think teh company you have been keeping - as shown in entries above here - is good company. ] 00:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Is this directed at me, or 86? --] 00:58, 18 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ‎"]"‎ and ‎"]"‎ == | |||
* sholem-aleykhem Leifern! Beside ‎"]"‎ ‎"''']'''"‎ stared today. I would be happy if you could help building the projects in Yiddish. a gut wokh ] · · ] 18:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Alternative Medicine Addiction == | |||
Is it just me or have articles dealing with alternative medicines become way to bias against...well against reality I suppose. I guess a sad side effect of the increasing numbers of wikipedia editors is that articles on theories that the masses believe get presented as mainstream fact, and the opposition to these theories (doctors, scientists, and indeed anybody with common sense) gets presented as fringe beliefs. Anyways, I saw you were involved in the conflict over these articles and I am just recently adding them to my watchlist.- ] | ] 09:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:It has become a very polarized debate, but there is plenty of bad behavior on both sides. "Reality," when it comes to medical science, is more elusive the more you look into it. There will inevitably be articles on "alternative medicine" topics in Misplaced Pages, and my view is that they should be written factually and neutrally, their claims presented fairly, and objections to them equally fairly. Right now, there are shrill denunciations on both sides, and the result is trashy articles like ] and ] and lack of progress in other articles. Be very careful about accepting conventional theory on these issues, by the way. Medicine has evolved significantly over the last 100, 200, 300 years and this will likely accelerate - our descendants 100 years from now will likely look back at what is "medicine" today with horror and disbelief. --] 10:35, 7 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
== A couple of articles == | |||
Hey Leifern. There are a couple of articles being edited that you might be interested in. The first is ], which you have edited extensively in the past, and the second is ]. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on both of these. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 19:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Here's an interesting POV one: ]. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 19:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Image:New community on the Golan .jpg == | |||
Your photo ], which is described as "New community on the Golan Heights" is without doubt a photo of the Druze village of Majdal Shams. Would it be ok if I changed the description and the caption in the ] article?--] 14:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:That would be fine. --] 15:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
== RfC - Your Endorsement? == | |||
I would appreciate it if you would consider doing something very simple for me? You have done more than your fair share in the past so if you want to keep well out of this, I can understand but also I am also not asking for anything more than that you consider an endorsement at an RfC. | |||
I would appreciate it if, after considering whether you are in a position to assess the facts, you could consider whether to please endorse my holding response to this RfC here:- | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/86.10.231.219#HOLDING_RESPONSE | |||
I am going to have to get on with some proper work for a few a while but intend to be back to take matters further. | |||
] 10:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
:When I start drafting my Response I will replace the Holding Response and it will become an Annex to the draft Response. Accordingly, you will cease to be an endorser of my draft Response unless you so choose to be once it is available to be read. I trust that is satisfactory and thank you for endorsing the Holding Response. It would clearly be inappropriate for me to keep any of the names of the endorsers once the draft Response starts. | |||
:Hopefully, the RfC protagonists will see the sense of what I say elsewhere regarding confirming the Statement of Case is complete. | |||
:] 16:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
==] as admin on commons== | |||
Hi! The norwegians have put foreward an admin request on commons, ]. It would be nice to have your vote! — '']'' (]) 21:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== AfD for Right- and Left- wing terrorism articles - have your say == | |||
Please take a look at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Right-wing terrorism and also Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Left-wing terrorism and have your say, if possible. Thanks.] 00:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== True Torah Jews == | |||
Hi, I posted a defense of the article ], I would like to ask you to be so kind and read it, and than rethink your position on deletion. | |||
] 02:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
Do you really think on a '''vote''' its a good idea to edit other people's posts? I really think you made a mistake here. ]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></sup> 12:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I believe I changed my own vote, which should be ok, no? --] 15:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
:: That's fine. I left that intact. You actually had changed two other people's comments regarding their votes. That's what I was objecting too. ]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></sup> 16:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
Thank you for responding. Since you’re Jewish and is seems from your user page that you have extensive knowledge on Judaism why not be so kind and edit the article - without making major differences in content – so that a reader with only passing knowledge of Zionism and Judaism should be able to read an article and make sense of it. | |||
Or didn’t I understand you’re point ? | |||
On the second point, the full name of the group is “True Torah Jews against Zionism” but I figured it’s to long for a group name. | |||
The only option was to change it to “Jews against Zionism” the problem with this is firstly it gets confused with “Jews not Zionists”(which is the Neturei Karta) in addition the main objective of the TTJ is not that there are Jews that are against Zionism but rather that there are “True Torah” Jews that are against Zionism. | |||
] 16:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Your e-mail address == | |||
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== Summer camp articles == | |||
Regardless of the nominator's purpose for nominating that slew of articles for deletion... "the cat is out of the bag." Now is the time to show that the claims are unsubstatitated by answering them instead of hiding behind what you appear to believe is an 'evil campaign' by the nominator; improving the articles so they pass per the various ], providing citations and sources, removing unverifiable information, and ''demonstrating'' with evidence why these articles are encyclopedic and should stay. | |||
Consider: if all of these articles had been nominated for deletion over a period of several months, with each nomination performed by a unique user isolated from all other nominating users, would you be running around screaming "bad faith and conspiracy", or would you be doing something along the lines of the above, which ] has started with ]? -- ] 12:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I would have opposed each of these AFD's, simply because "non-notable" is a very subjective term that is abused by deletionists who take their philosophy too far. The fact that someone on a rampage only puts their motivation in question, but the case for deletion is weak in either case. --] 19:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== help? == | |||
Can you comment here? http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Cultural_and_historical_background_of_Jesus#recent_changes I am concerned that ] and ] will not give up easily - and will not allow for any compromise whatsoever. ] | ] 13:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== New "Israeli apartheid" article == | |||
Hi Leifern: Vigorous editing and debate is taking place at ]. Please take a look at it and add your comments. Thanks a lot. ] 21:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Hailing you at "List of Jewish history topics" == | |||
Greetings, ]! This is a heads-up about a reply I just posted on the Discussion page of the ], re: an issue you raised there back on 20 December 2005. As I don't know whether you're tracking that on your watchlist nowadays, I thought to hail you here ''(hoping this isn't a faux pas; if so, please pardon a rookie's overenthusiasm :-)'' <br> | |||
] 20:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Patrick Maxwell article == | |||
Leifern, | |||
You stated that you felt there had been no documenting that Dr. Maxwell was recognized as superlative within the field. A brief documenting of some of his professional activities over the recent period of time with speaking engagements and visiting professorships all over the world is about all I can offer to someone who doesn't work in this field. Please check out some of the attached links & reassess your dismissal of him | |||
Thanks | |||
Rob Oliver Jr MD | |||
South Korea 2005 | |||
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Keynote Speaker of Kentucky State Meeting 2005] | |||
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Orlando,FL ASAPS 2006 presenter/panelist ] | |||
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] 18:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Sigismund/Zygmunt == | |||
Do you have an opinion: ] ? ] 03:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== White American == | |||
I'm very uncomfortable with it; it looks racist and unsourced to me. How do you feel? ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 23:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:As a white American, my advice is to delete it.] 00:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::It is an extremely innacurate generalisation, and I'm in favour of deletion. It should be noted that an ] is employed by the US Census, for better or for worse. Cheers, <font style="color:#22AA00;">''']'''</font><font style="color:#888888;"><sup>]</sup></font> 02:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks for the report == | |||
I welcome the report, and if the conclusion at the ] is that is should moved back, I am perfectly willing to do so. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 00:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== this is good == | |||
But why the article has to go all the way to line 36 to start the NPOV of all the false above it ? ] 19:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Bad faith deletion of new article on ''Shefa''' == | |||
Eliezer (under a new name) is trying to delete articles on real organizations. The claim he made on the ] page is false and disingenuous. The '''Shefa Network''' is a real group within ], and in fact is already larger than many organizations that Misplaced Pages already has many articles on. | |||
The Shefa Network already has several hundred members, they have their own journal, their own website, they have already had two major conferences, ''and two more conferences are planned'' soon. Yet Eliezer and a friend of his are trying to delete its article? Eliezer has refused to even discuss the issue on the article's discussion page, despite the fact that I am trying to engage in civil discourse. Eliezer and his friend haven't even tried to see if the group exists. | |||
Note the timestamps; they tried to delete the article within ''minutes'' of its creation. They obviously didn't even try to read the group's official website, or read its academic journal. They certainly never went to any of Shefa's conferences! They also never joined Shefa's e-mail list and asked anyone about the group. Look, attempting to delete a page without even trying to ascertain the facts is clearly against Misplaced Pages policy. And doing so while refusing to engage in dialogue is editing in bad faith, ''by definition''. | |||
If someone somehow still doubts that this organization exists, I can arrange for an interview with its founder, or its journal editor, webmaster, and members of this organization who have been to Shefa's academic conferences. ] 14:03, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
==] page move == | |||
Hi. I have requested that this page to moved to a title that is more in line with the naming conventions used for similar lists of mountains in a country. See the ]. ] 16:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ad hominem == | |||
Is Sharansky not a member of Likud (didn't he just challenge Nethanayhu for the leadership)? Is Likud not right wing? How is saying Sharansky is a member of the "Right wing Likud party" at all an ad hominem?] 22:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Stop it. You're POV pushing. ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 22:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::He has been a member of several parties, among them at least one he started himself. At the time of this quote, I'm not even sure what party he was member of. If you're going to characterize him at all, it is clearly more relevant that he spent 10 years in the Soviet Gulag and is a famous human rights activist. I'm no fool - by characterizing him the way you did, you are hoping to discount his opinions. And that is an ad hominem; look it up. --] 22:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
If you are going to slap an advert tag on an article, please add your comments to the Talk page. Unless you do so soon, I'll revert the tag. The article in its form makes no representations or promises to anyone, so you're probably off. --] 17:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
:The article doesn't discuss the notability of the company. It merely illustrates its existence and indicates the services offered. Is it notable according to any of the criteria set out in ]? If so, can the evidence be provided? <span style="border: 1px solid #800080;">]]</span> 17:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
::Well, you're being inconsistent here. Now you're worrying about notability, which is another concern than advertising. But, yes, this company has gotten independent, non-trivial press coverage, such as here: . So that should do it. --] 17:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Some category namings == | |||
Hi Leifern: Please see: | |||
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Thank you. ] 05:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Group self-descriptions== | |||
In one case I've quoted BICOM's mandate, in a second I've quoted "Honest Reporting"'s "Our History" page and in a third case I quoted a description of CAMERA by a sympathizing group. The opinions are sourced and I've said exactly where they come from. What, exactly, is the problem?] 20:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:The references are to analyses that seek to make a factual case against use of the term; it seems self-evident that those who speak out against it in fact are against it. But your characterization would lead someone to believe that only "pro-Israeli" groups could possibly object to the term. --] 20:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
The paragraph is not about the use of the term in general but specifically about McGreal's Guardian reports. It's not self-evident that those criticising the article are pro-Israel. "Honest Reporting" and "Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting" do not indicate their biases in their names. Readers cannot tell if they are neutral academic groups, pro-Israeli, or pro-Palestinian, right wing or left wing. If in fact there are other groups criticising McGreal they should be named but if the only ones we can find are pro-Israel grouops then it's misleading and dishonest to suggest that they are something other than that. ] 20:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I think you're revealing your own bias here. I would prefer to write "anti-Israeli" in front of every mention of The Guardian, BBC, and Norwegian Press Agency, on the same rationale. If a group has published an effective repudiation of a slur, then the source is irrelevant - the repudiation should stand on its own merits. --] 21:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
The difference is that the Guardian does not describe itself as pro-Israel or pro-Palestinian (or anti-Israel) while, as I said, the description for BICOM and Honest Reporting '''came from their own websites'''! As for whether these groups published an "effective repudiation", that is a POV. ] 21:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
Here's an article from New York Jewish Week describing Camera as "pro-Israel", the difference between this and your examples is that no one is using "pro-Israel" as an epithet, it is used as a factual description either by the group itself or by the group's supporters or sympathizers. ] 21:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
==Need your help on the Talmud article== | |||
We need some help on the ]. Our self-styled "Talmud Defender" is on a rage, deleting every single reference and quotation about historical study of the Talmud. He mass-reverts every single edit I make, every single source offered, and deletes every quote. | |||
I cannot defend this article from his vandalism alone. "Talmud Defender" refuses to cite his sources, deletes all sources and quotes that make him uncomfortable. Not surprisingly, he seems to have no education in the subject at all. This kind of crank is precisely the sort of problem that Misplaced Pages is most vunerable. Without a group of people actively trying to follow official Misplaced Pages policy, the article will continue to be damaged by him. ] 23:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
== RfM == | |||
{{RFM-Request|]|Apartheid (disambiguation)}}] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 02:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Hey Leifern, | |||
There is a discussion and going on about changing the name to Deir Yassin Massacre. | |||
Your participation would be appreciated. | |||
Regards, | |||
] 17:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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I'm just the messenger, helping out the featured article director, ], who made the call and . He generally delists FACs after five days if the nominators haven't made headway convincing the objectors that they've addressed the issues. He's been known to relist them occassionally, or you can wait two to four weeks, continue to make improvements, and renominate. —] (]) 03:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Much better! My only concern now is that the footnotes are in the middle of the sentences, per standard and wiki sytle, they go after the period at the end; not inside the sentence or before the period. Raul654 has already delisted it, but when you're done with all your tweaks, you can relist it. At that point, let me know and I foresee no reason I would object. ] 09:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Sorry to take a while getting back to you on this, but it looks a lot better. Good work. ] 02:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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