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	==Ile de France stuff==
	Even with the server problems, one ought to be careful about such things. (Especially if, um, you were aware that there were server issues). ] 17:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
	:Okay, fair enough. I suppose no harm's done, since I restored it. ] 22:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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	Please don't be offended by this . I am not trying to upset you or anything, just letting you know, you're not the only one. ] 07:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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	Please stop tampering with deletion reviews. I made no personal attacks and merely noted the process by which the article was deleted, which is perfectly consistent with how deletion review works. ] 17:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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	Mongo, I've filed an RfC for you to respond to based on some of the personal attacks that you delivered and failed to apologize for during the recent drama. ] ] 17:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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	:Can I sign the barnstar above? Based on the diffs in the RFC I'd say "good job". ] 18:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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	My apologies if you were offended. I was not trying to be rude - merely familiar. - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 14:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
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	Thanks for checking in! The article history seem to have stabilized, thanks to your efforts earlier. ] \| ] 05:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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	Please unlock and add ] to {{tl\|commonscat}}, so it's listed with the rest of the family (see the cat). Thanks for the Speedy-D earlier. // <B>]</B><font color="green">]</font> 06:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
	:Done...hopefully I got that right.--] 07:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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	== NYC locations for photographing ==
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	Hi MONGO! I'll be back from the beach and in the city for a week or two starting next week and would like to try to face my 9/11 demons and help WP at the same time - which street addresses or specific locations/features would you like me to shoot? I'd be glad to go out 'on location' (even if it's just down the block) for a WP photo shoot! :) -- ] ] 13:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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	Hi, I recently created the article ]. As you can see from the original copy (actually the second was the original, the first was me hitting save page instead of show preview), that I had worked long and hard on opening the article.

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	A day after opening, user ] proposed it for deletion. I feel this is rather outrageous, especially because comparing Windows and Mac OS X is a much more widely-regarded topic then a ]... Either way, the article has had a rocky beginning, but with proper editations I'm sure it could be a great one.
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	I also have recieved much shunning from Mr. McMillan, for he seemed to sort of treat me as a less intelligent individual, being extremely snobbish toward (I can often make mistakes such as forgetting to sign), and it seems his judgement is based on a bias and shouldnt be well noted.

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	I am only 14, and do much work throughout the summer: so I cannot spend a long time on protecting/enhancing my articles; so I'd be very happy to see some help & support.
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	Thanks alot,

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			Glad I have other things to worry about than this website as some folks are hell bent on making it a completely unfun place to be. Nice job ]...you succeeded in getting the articles redirected yet I see the page they redirect to have no further information...only empty headers. The purpose of a stub is so myself or anyone can come along and work to expand it...bandwidth is cheap so deletion is just plain stupid. This is why we have stub tags.--] (]) 11:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
	== WP:FAITH, hope and charity ==

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	Hi Mongo, since you've come right out now and said that your initial response to my attempts to introduce CD in the ] article was to assume that they were made in bad faith (if "he must be nuts" can't be interpreted that way I don't know what can), I thought I'd come over here and take particular exception to the way you've been treating me.
	I know you get a lot of praise for being a direct and merciless editor, but if you go back and look at the discussions we've been having I think you will see that your contributions could have been a good deal more constructive. There was nothing to indicate that I was what I turned out to be: namely, someone who would put up with your rude behaviour for the sake of a better article. Your actions risked driving someone away who would have made a useful contribution to the article.
	You consistently misrepresented my views and refused to address the actual suggestions I made: that is, you responded to me as though I was making claims for controlled demolition (when I never once did that and repeatedly corrected you), and you proceeded early on on an assumption about my background political views (CT, government culpability), which were not only false, but irrelevant in the way I framed the suggestion and pejorative in their insinuating tone.
	The best example, here, is the first one, which is also, since nothing else is at this point known, the clearest example of a WP:FAITH violation. First, I explain why I think CD is a useful baseline collapse mechanism to have in mind. Next, you try to summarize my views by saying, "So in a nutshell, you believe that the U.S. Government is culpable?" The question mark clearly indicates a rhetorical question.
	The intellectual tradition that I come from, and Misplaced Pages seems at least in point of policy to participate in, is founded on the interpretative "principle of charity", especially in first time encounters. The idea is to read a collection of utterances in such a way as to grant them maximal coherence and truth. You didn't do that. The words "controlled demolition" made you "feel like" shouting "you're nuts", and your actions were in effect to do that in all but the letter.
	As you now know, people like you (or people like you have until now pretended to be) don't really put me off. But people like me should not be required to make the sorts of improvements that have been made to the Collapse of the WTC article. Other rhetorical postures must be viable also. Since I will be around from now on, I'd appreciate it if you laid off the heavyhanded, presumptuous, impatient and uncharitable bullying. Let me deal with those who might insist on writing claims about CD into the article from now on.
	Only if we acknowledge their curiosity, and assume their good faith, i.e., only if we treat each other as Wikipedians, can working on the article be pleasant work. Your dog fights are not a source of hope in this regard.
	With all due respect, --] 10:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	:I defend the proven facts, not hypothesis's. Anyone, who tells me that there is any chance of controlled demolition, even in just some mildly passing manner, is going to get a raised eyebrow, at a minimum from me. I pretty much treat the notion of controlled demolition on 9/11 as the biggest insult one can have on the U.S. Government and many, many of it's people. Otherwise, my comment wasn't a personal attack, unless of course, you are here ultimately to POV push controlled demolition. I made it clear, I see no reason to have nonsense in the article, yet you expanded it and have it written in such a way that it looks like it was dismissed by the experts soon after it was first brought up...almost as if this now leaves room for expansion upon that theme, maybe even opportunity to further discuss the matter in article space. Any rational, sane human being would have known it wasn't controlled demolition the moment the first plane hit the north tower at WTC. I cannot imagine how CT could ever be a useful baseline collapse mechanism to have in mind. You're editing a controversial article, so if you make utterances that appear to me to be controversial, then, naturally, I am going to treat them as with differing degrees of circumspect. What exactly did you expect?--] 12:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	::Guys, after many, many months of arguing, we are finally getting the article into proper shape. Lets not fight about it now. ] 13:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	:::Sorry, Seabhcán. I guess it's because I've really only been arguing about this for a week, getting nothing but flak from Mongo the whole the way, that I decided to come over here. I think this is more person-oriented than article-oriented, but certainly not PA territory. As best I can make out, these are issues of ] and ], values which the "experienced" Mongo decided to set aside because of his preformed opinion about CD ...
	::Not CT, Mongo. I said controlled demolition, not conspiracy theory, is a baseline mechanism. That is certainly plausible from a layman's perspective (as the newscasters made clear on 9/11, when it was all they think to compare it to) and it has now been given a modicum of plausibility event by Bazant, even Sunder is more respectful of people who worry about controlled demolition than you are. You continue to treat the very idea of CD as an immediate accusation of government complicity, when it could be an accusation of ordinary treason aimed at as yet unknown, unnamed elements working for al-Qaida, but on the inside; and even this I haven't suggested. You have (don't tell me this unintentional) now called me irrational and insane (as you hinted earlier) since I didn't "know it wasn't controlled demolition the moment the first plane hit the north tower at WTC" (whatever your basis for saying that may be).
	::You didn't treat me with circumspect, Mongo, but disrespect. I expected a modicum of respect and got bitten. As it happens, this won't effect my work on the article, but that doesn't justify your behaviour. It took way too much effort to make a much needed and completely NPOV change to the CT section. And it greatly soured the work on the rest of the article. Be, I don't know, "happier", Mongo.--] 13:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	:::Yes, CD, not CT...as I said, controlled demolition is the path of ignorance, and yes, anyone who is mislead to believe that controlled demolition was in anyway a part of the scenario, is ignorant...that is of course, not the same thing as calling someone stupid. Furthermore, I do not think your changes to the section on controlled demolition are indeed NPOV. I think they present a foothold of nonsense in the article which can easily be misconstrued. Your seeming desire to link in the ] indicates to me that you are familiar with their "work"...but they are just one group of many that profess, without any basis in factuality, the "hypothesis" of controlled demolition on 9/11...in that, I think they are either ignorant or stupid. I don't know what more can be said on the matter. You have to understand that I am first and foremost a man of science. I support only what has been properly peer reviewed by those that could do an effective cross examination of the material...then we can add that information. I have basically left your edits alone, so I really don't know what you're disturbed about...I haven't been rude to you in the least...and I have every right to question where you're coming from.--] 16:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
	::::Well, according to WP:FAITH you have every right to '''ask me''' where I'm coming from, not to question my good faith (or sanity, or knowledge, or intelligence). I can see you're not going to give any ground on this, so I'll leave you be. I think you are wrong about the CD section, of course. You are both wrong and working without any firm basis when you suggest that I have some brute "desire to link to the 9/11 truth movement". It strikes me as the right direction to point people who want to pursue the demolition option. Science is full of hypotheses the pursuit of which led to important discoveries even though they turned out to be false. You are a man of '''a particular kind of science''' at best. Finally, the reason you have left my edits alone is not, I trust, because you're being nice to me, but because they're good edits. Just as I've left your edits alone because they were correct, not because I'm being polite. Doesn't seem to be much call for that with you. See you around.--] 18:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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	==About Mr. President==

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	Why did you reverted that users sumary of Presidents life and career? Maybe because its all sooooo true?
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	Well,since hes blocked,I figured its right to show people why hes been blocked for(if Im wrong,then I apologize and you can delete it from his page,or I can).But if hes really block,then I think it should stay
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	OOOOO,dont get it wrong,I added it with explanation in Serbian,because Boris is my friend and I know him.I will put it back,and he can remove it if he mind,but you can ask him,I know him and he`ll be glad to see it.Please leave it on that talk page.Thanks.
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	What I ment to say was: this other user that I put it on his user page,it was wrong(since he isnt blocked .....yet).On the other side,Boris Malagurski ,its different thing,since I left it in his talk page and I just want him to see it,but he can delete it later.
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	Thanks agains and dont worry,Im not trying to vandalise anything.

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Glad I have other things to worry about than this website as some folks are hell bent on making it a completely unfun place to be. Nice job dlthewave...you succeeded in getting the articles redirected yet I see the page they redirect to have no further information...only empty headers. The purpose of a stub is so myself or anyone can come along and work to expand it...bandwidth is cheap so deletion is just plain stupid. This is why we have stub tags.--MONGO (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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Did you quit?

I noticed that you last edited over a year ago. Did you quit? Or what? I was going to invite you to edit the Mann Gulch fire. Yankeepapa13 (talk) 01:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)