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== Spelling Vadim Nurzhitz == == Incident section wrong link. ==


Currently the link of Vadim Nurzhitz Rank (OR-4) leads to Oregon's 4th congressional district however it should be a link to NATO Ranks like in Avrahamis case. ] (]) 14:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
There is much confusion about the surname of one of lynched soldiers (originally in Russian), because written in Hebrew as נורז'יץ it can be pronounced in several ways. To get original pronounciation back, one needs to search Google for the surname without the first name. ] gives a lot of Nurzhitz persons irrelevant to the event. All other searches bring only results somehow connected to the lynching and thus are most probably distorted by wrong reading. --] (]) 16:07, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 September 2024 ==
== non combatant soldiers ==
non combatants are civilians. Soldiers are NOT noncombantants, even if not in uniform, offduty, or members of underground security force ?
They could also be terrorists.
That is correct. According to international humanitarian law, anyone can be considered a combatant if they are performing a military function. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:26, 13 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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Fixed. Soldiers are combatants. Also, the article nowhere noted that the incident took place in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, nor that the soldiers were participating in the military occupation. Note was made of the former, which I think is essential context; omitted the latter as perhaps suggesting POV. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
The link for Vadim Nurzhitz's rank directs to the page for Oregon's fourth Congressional distrtict rather than to Ranks and insignia of NATO armies enlisted as intended and as is done earlier in the same sentence. The link should be removed or corrected. ] (]) 05:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> ] (]) 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)


== Occupation ==
The term "accidentally" made a wrong turn is missing verifiable sources.
] (]) 22:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


{{ping|OdNahlawi}} Why did you remove mention of the occupation from the lede? ] (]) 09:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
:I don't understand what your point is in your first comment. Regarding your second comment, a wrong turn is by definition accidental. The precise wording "wrong turn" is used in sources #2 and #5. Note that the lead is a summary of the article and does not need to be sourced as long as the corresponding content in the article is. ] (]) 23:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
:In response to his first point, there are "noncombatant" soldiers - such as engineers, drivers, clerical personnel. These soldiers served in noncombatant roles - drivers.] (]) 23:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


:It is in the infobox ] (]) 07:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
: There are "noncombatant" soldiers, but I believe these were not drivers for the IDF at the time of the incident, but civilians in general reserve. In Israel, all adult citizens below 40 are in general reserve, to be called on in case of war. Similar rules exist in many countruies, for example they existed in the Soviet Union. These should properly be refered to as civilians. After all, the Russians killed in suicide bombing in Moscow subway on March 29, 2010 ar refered to as civilians, even if the men were in general reserve. Changing "two non-combatant Israeli reservists (serving as drivers)" to "Israeli civilians". (] (]) 21:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC))
::{{ping|OdNahlawi}} There is no WP guideline saying that what is in the infobox cannot be part of the lede. Please restore it if that is the only reason. ] (]) 10:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::Where they or where they not on duty as reservists? The answer appears to be that they were in fact on duty. Therefore, I would not characterize them as civilians but "non-combatant Israeli reservists".<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) .</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:::One mention is enough ] (]) 10:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
::::That appears to be based on nothing at all. Restored. ''']''' - 15:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::I agree. I think it should even be in the opening paragraph to establish context. ] (]) 15:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)


== Aziz Salha eliminated Oct 3, 2024 ==
Sorry, I disagree: If you are on reserve duty, whatever your job is, you are a combatant. The use of the term "non-comabant reservists" to discribe 'miluimnikim' (reservists in Hebrew> is misleading and my suspicion is that the author is attempting to futher add to the weight of the horror of the attack. This is completely unnecessary as even if they were undercover IDF soldiers, they still were entitled to humane treatment and due process at the hands of the Palestinian authorities and as they were in custody, were entitled to the protection of the Police. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


The guy in the infamous photo with the blood-soaked hands is gone.
== Yossi <--> Yosef ==
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-shin-bet-confirm-death-in-gaza-strike-of-palestinian-infamous-for-lynching-of-two-israeli-soldiers-in-2000/ ] (]) 17:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)


== Red hand ==
* Multiple sources give Avrahami 's name as Yosef, as forex and our own article on ]. I mention this because for about ten minutes I was convinced that there was no article on this incident &ndash; I had been searching for Yosef Avrahami. &bull;&nbsp;] 13:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


:Is Yossi a shortened form or nickname? ] (]) 21:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC) The red hand which Palestine used, should it be me ruined on this article as this is whatxstarted thr usage? ] (]) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
::I have no idea. One day soon I'll alter the article to add the other spellings of BOTH names; you can do it if you like. Look at my contribs (see the redirects I made) for the spellings. &bull;&nbsp;] 00:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:Yossi is definitely a shortened form for Yosef. The latter is formal, but ''Yossi'' has been much more widely used in the media. --] (]) 09:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


:I'm not sure how much of a symbol it is, as opposed to a matter of perceptions of different groups. When many Israelis see people with reddened hands in protests, they automatically think "Aziz Salha", but many of those who redden their hands in protests may not have heard of of Aziz Salha (he's not convenient to the conventional pro-Palestinian narrative). The group "Artists4Ceasefire" claims that their logo includes an orange hand, but when they passed out pins to celebrities at the Oscars in March, the hands on those pins were actually red, giving rise to a lot of suspicion and antagonism... ] (]) 14:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
== Dancing with pieces of human flesh ==
::Do we have a response from artists4ceasefure why the pins had red hands instead of orange hands? ] (]) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Although I do not have a specific source at this moment, there is a picture I have seen many times of Palestinians celebrating, holding pieces of human flesh. At least this is how the picture was described. The description refers to this incident. The photo shows several men of Middle Easter appearance holding pieces of flesh and something that lookes like gut, with intense emotion on their faces. I believe this to be an important detail, so I am putting it in. I will add a reference when I find it. (] (]) 21:59, 2 April 2010 (UTC))


:::You can look into that. It was presumably because having hundreds of 1-color buttons made was slightly cheaper than having hundreds of 2-color buttons made, but likely also because they didn't have anyone on staff who knew or cared about Israeli sensitivities. ] (]) 22:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
There is also something else missing here: The Palastinian Police Commander attempted to protect the soldiers, along with others from his force and contacted the IDF to arrange a collection. He rebuked the officers for bringing them to the station and when they lynch occured protected one of them by sitting on him until he was hit over the head with a fax machine. In a BBC documentary he descibed the feeling of shame that this could have of occured on his watch. If I remember correctly, as he had attempted to return the Soldiers to the IDF, he was warned by telephone by the IDF to evacuate the building as it was to be attacked by helicopters. I have no references right now, but will attempt to identify the BBC documentary where this is described. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 07:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::If thats the case then they intentionally used a red hand on the red background to create controversy. For a large organistion i see it as impossible to make such a mistake between orange/red.
::::It seems like they did this intentionally to send a message to Israelis.
::::They should of stuck with the orange hand rather than using a red hand. ] (]) 09:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)


== Misinformation about deatils of the attack and surrounding information. ==
== New suspects arrested ==


"Tensions had been escalating prior to the incident; over 100 Palestinians, nearly half of them children, had been killed by Israeli forces in the preceding two weeks"
See ] article - 2 more suspects recently arrested who confessed to being involved:


Going down to the sources of the page it says that "For two weeks there had been intense clashes, with over 100 funerals of Palestinians killed, nearly two dozen of them children." Last I checked nearly 2 dozen is very far from half of 100 = 50. This is simply blatantly wrong.
<blockquote>The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), IDF, and Judea and Samaria district police arrested two men who confessed to taking part in the brutal October 2000 lynch of two IDF soldiers, security forces announced Thursday.


"and were taken into custody by Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching."
The arrests came after the Shin Bet and police uncovered an extensive Hamas terror structure in Ramallah and the Binyamin region, and arrested other suspects along with the two men.


I went to the source listed and could find no mention of 13 policemen who were injured in any attempt to stop the attack. Looking it up online, wikipedia is the only source I found to be making such a claim. It seems unfounded. https://time.com/archive/6927914/ramallah-lynching-leaves-peace-in-pieces/
In June, security forces arrested the Palestinian security suspects, some of whom formed a Hamas field command in that region of the West Bank, police said.
The source I could find simply claimed that the police fired into the air and when they saw that this did not disperse the crowd they surrendered the two Israelis. Misplaced Pages seems to be painting a false image of the police desperately fighting the crowd while in reality it seems that they gave up without any meaningful struggle. ] (]) 23:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

:In the lead you will see '...Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching.' If you look at source you will see references to Ha'aretz and Ma'ariv reports that support the statememt. This inconsistency suggests to me that you should remove your comment, do some more due diligence, and when you are ready you can submit an edit request following the ] guidelines as per the ] rules. Also, you have no entitlement to provide reviews of the article and personal theories about intent of authors. As a non-extendedconfirmed user you are limited to submitting edits requests. ] (]) 04:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Two of those questioned confessed to being involved in the beating to death of IDF reservists Yossi Avrahami and Vadim Nurzhitz at the PA Ramallah police station, where the two were taken after getting lost.

The two suspects were charged at the Judea Military Court on August 5, police added.</blockquote>

I'd put it in under arrest of suspects, but the last bulet point says that the arrested person was the ''last'' person involved. Therefore, I want to make sure everyone is OK with me removing that wording, since he clearly wasn't. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 16:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
:That sounds logical (unless there was some qualitative difference between those apprehended, though none of the articles indicate that), so content with you proceeding though seems that Reenem already got to it. ] (]) 01:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks, but I noticed that another editor has already made the appropriate changes a bit after I posted this on the talk page. --<small style="border: 1px dashed;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']]'''</small> 01:22, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

==Violent murder==
Aren't all murders violent? It is referred to that way in the first paragraph. Rephrase? ] (]) 21:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

:I've done some rephrasing. ] (]) 15:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

:Some are actually more brutal/bloody than others. Smothering someone in their sleep with a pillow could be just as morally repugnant, but it lacks a certain apparent bloodlust factor when compared to a frenzied mob tearing someone limb-from-limb... ] (]) 22:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

::Definitely. I just thought the phrasing needed reworking. Is it OK now? ] (]) 00:40, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

==Tone==
Another observation: the tone of the article is overwrought. I realize it was a brutal murder, but the facts speak for themselves and do not require amplification. ] (]) 20:40, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

==CAMERA==
A small edit war appears to be brewing over the use of advocacy organization CAMERA as a source in this article. I have removed the content for now. There may be secondary source coverage of Alex Safian's comments but it's not obvious why this content qualifies for inclusion. The sanctions remind editors to utilize reliable sources for contentious or disputed assertions and everything here has to be notable. Plot Spoiler has been removing lots of sources that don't qualify as RS, such as www.ifamericansknew.org and many others, which is good, but restored CAMERA, which seems inconsistent, at least to me. There's no harm in it staying out for now while it's discussed, but it needs to be discussed. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 09:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
:Restoring Camera seems very consistent with plot spolier's edits to me. If a third party had reported on Camera's comments that would make their statements notable, but right now thee is just a whole lot of "this is my opinion" - signed Camera (who?). Not only that, but they also make laughable statements, of course added in quotes so non-camera editors don't edit out the stupidity, like "the very successful campaign by Palestinians to control western media" haha. ] (]) 16:34, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

== please refrain from editing 8and following me around) if you can't do elementary homework ==

makes a mess of an easily ascertainable viewpoint, by attributing it to one person, when it was widely reported as being the shared belief of Palestinians there at the time. I.e. Pratt's book mentions it as well. It is absolutely irrelevant that the correspondent now works for Al Jazeera, anymore than it would be relevant to say Pratt works for the Scottish Herald as their Middle Eastern reporter
*Sumaya Farhat-Naser, Labor et Fides, 2004 p.208
* ] 13 October 2000.
<blockquote>Anger had been brewing for the last two weeks which have witnessed the funerals of about 100 Arabs, nearly two dozen of them children, who have been killed in the violent uprising against Israeli occupation forces. But this outburst of fury apparently stemmed from rumours circulating through the mob that the captives belonged to the feared and hated undercover units of the Israeli army which dress as Arabs and strike in the heart of Palestinian towns. Earlier this week, the badly beaten body of a Palestinian, Issam Hamad, was found dumped on the outskirts of Ramallah. Palestinians blamed his death on Israeli settlers.</blockquote>
*Ann LoLordo and Mark Matthews, ] October 15, 2000
<blockquote>He pointed to the Palestinian casualties. He spoke of the week-old disappearance and death of Issam Hamad, a 39-year-old father of five, who Palestinians believe was tortured and killed by Jewish settlers, an accusation that exacerbated the rioting in Ramallah during two days. Israeli police say Hamad was killed in an automobile accident. But he identified the underlying cause of the rage as the failed peace process: its never-ending delays, the unabated expansion of Jewish settlements in Palestinian areas and the overall economic decline in the territories.</blockquote>
*You also excised without explanation 'reportedly while returning to his village in Umm Safa'
(To self. Probably IP banned editor, trying to tagteam and push me over the 1R limit).] (]) 14:47, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
: On sensitive issues, you better find better sources. Note, your other sources do not mention Halamish and 'attributed' is very strong in comparison to 'Palestinians believe' or 'Palestinians blamed'. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::'your other sources do not mention Halamish'. Thanks for the public admission you haven't read the sources.] (]) 19:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
:::I read what you posted here. Why won't you note 'to self' to stick to the facts and place them in the appropriate place in articles? <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::While we are at it, the two more reliable sources say Palestinians 'believed' they were kidnapped w/o mentioning Halamish. Madam Naser, a peace activists gives it as a fact. That just comes to show you she is completely unreliable source. Find something better, then you can take out attribution. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:38, 19 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::Nope. You misread the English, by not taking into account the passive tense and the accompanying note from Pratt.
:::::I wrote:'days earlier, the badly beaten body of Issam Hamad (36) had been dumped outside of the city, and his murder, '''reportedly''' while returning to his village in Umm Safa, '''was attributed to settlers''' in ].
:::::Pratt writes, for those checking the footnote:'Locals were in no doubt that Israeli settlers were to blame for his killing.'
:::::'was attributed' in that context means 'by Palestinian locals'. If troubled, you could simply have added 'by Palestinian locals' rather than attributing to it to one person (].
:::::What he reports is backed by ] and ] as what local Palestinians thought at the time, rightly or wrongly
::::: ] 8 October 2000:.'The body of Isam Hamad, 36, from Um Safa near Ramallah is found in a field near the settlement of Halamish; evidence suggests that he was tortured and killed by settlers.'
:::::When several sources state what a community believed, you don't single out a person, give his contemporary employer's name, and attribute to him or her. And don't excise contextual detail (on his way home) that is relevant.] (]) 22:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Speaking of reading the footnotes and sources and stuff, could you kindly explain how Pratt's "nearly two dozen" children became "dozens" of children in your edit? Also, how did Dor's "some of them" administrators and cooks become "mainly" cooks and administrators? ] (]) 23:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
:Shocking. I should be lynched for such undersights. ] (]) 06:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::The 'reportedly' joke needs to be over. You fight against credibility of some sources but wholehearted adopted 'reportedly' (or in other word - 'he said, she said - we can't confirm') as a mechanism to 'kosher' garbage. It was never confirmed by any investigation (PA, Israel, UN as far as the sources you brought). 'Attributed' is very far from 'believed by Palestinians'. Don't act as if you don't see it. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:02, 20 May 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::What a vile thing for you to say Nishidani, to make light of the terrible fate the two individuals suffered in the subject of this article. If you're not willing to seriously address the matter, it simply adds to the body of evidence that you are engaged in a POV pushing campaign by mischaracterizing even the most minute details to further demonize Israel. ] (]) 15:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::Sure. Add it to the proofs No More Mr Nice Guy kept adding to his old user page that I am a vicious anti-Semite. The only edits he made there over the past two years were with this intent. I have no ethnic divide in my feelings: what happened in Ramallah, despite the difference in scale, evokes the same revulsion I felt for 51 days in watching the murder of 2000 people in Gaza by high precision artillery and bombing. When I see you all writing with equal precision on casualties on both sides I will convert, and convince myself that your capacity for pity and horror are not ethnic-exclusive. ] (]) 16:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::You just made a joke about two people who were lynched and their bodies mutilated, in response to a query about what is quite obviously you fabricating information and attributing it to a source. And you have the audacity to lecture other editors about "precision" and "pity" that's not being "ethnic-exclusive"? That's hilarious even from you. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you obviously lack the capacity. ] (]) 17:30, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
:::::No. I made a joke about being put on the gallows for minor slips. It's called Gallows Humour. If you wish to make a case, like the fatuous attempt today, that I fake information, take it to the relevant bored (another pun: without a sense of humour or irony, no '''normal''' human being can edit here for long).] (]) 17:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, what passes for normal nowadays can turn one's stomach. Apropos my user page, which was not about you but about Misplaced Pages and Western society in general. You're just a symptom. ] (]) 18:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Incident section wrong link.

Currently the link of Vadim Nurzhitz Rank (OR-4) leads to Oregon's 4th congressional district however it should be a link to NATO Ranks like in Avrahamis case. 217.91.168.125 (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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The link for Vadim Nurzhitz's rank directs to the page for Oregon's fourth Congressional distrtict rather than to Ranks and insignia of NATO armies enlisted as intended and as is done earlier in the same sentence. The link should be removed or corrected. 2601:588:4201:6460:971:AF7B:CFC4:FE2E (talk) 05:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Bunnypranav (talk) 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Occupation

@OdNahlawi: Why did you remove mention of the occupation from the lede? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

It is in the infobox OdNahlawi (talk) 07:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
@OdNahlawi: There is no WP guideline saying that what is in the infobox cannot be part of the lede. Please restore it if that is the only reason. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
One mention is enough OdNahlawi (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
That appears to be based on nothing at all. Restored. nableezy - 15:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
I agree. I think it should even be in the opening paragraph to establish context. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Aziz Salha eliminated Oct 3, 2024

The guy in the infamous photo with the blood-soaked hands is gone. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-shin-bet-confirm-death-in-gaza-strike-of-palestinian-infamous-for-lynching-of-two-israeli-soldiers-in-2000/ tharsaile (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Red hand

The red hand which Palestine used, should it be me ruined on this article as this is whatxstarted thr usage? Finkyspinky (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure how much of a symbol it is, as opposed to a matter of perceptions of different groups. When many Israelis see people with reddened hands in protests, they automatically think "Aziz Salha", but many of those who redden their hands in protests may not have heard of of Aziz Salha (he's not convenient to the conventional pro-Palestinian narrative). The group "Artists4Ceasefire" claims that their logo includes an orange hand, but when they passed out pins to celebrities at the Oscars in March, the hands on those pins were actually red, giving rise to a lot of suspicion and antagonism... AnonMoos (talk) 14:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Do we have a response from artists4ceasefure why the pins had red hands instead of orange hands? Finkyspinky (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
You can look into that. It was presumably because having hundreds of 1-color buttons made was slightly cheaper than having hundreds of 2-color buttons made, but likely also because they didn't have anyone on staff who knew or cared about Israeli sensitivities. AnonMoos (talk) 22:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
If thats the case then they intentionally used a red hand on the red background to create controversy. For a large organistion i see it as impossible to make such a mistake between orange/red.
It seems like they did this intentionally to send a message to Israelis.
They should of stuck with the orange hand rather than using a red hand. 2A02:C7C:CC63:1900:BCC5:DDCD:5BDB:AB01 (talk) 09:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Misinformation about deatils of the attack and surrounding information.

"Tensions had been escalating prior to the incident; over 100 Palestinians, nearly half of them children, had been killed by Israeli forces in the preceding two weeks"

Going down to the sources of the page it says that "For two weeks there had been intense clashes, with over 100 funerals of Palestinians killed, nearly two dozen of them children." Last I checked nearly 2 dozen is very far from half of 100 = 50. This is simply blatantly wrong.

"and were taken into custody by Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching."

I went to the source listed and could find no mention of 13 policemen who were injured in any attempt to stop the attack. Looking it up online, wikipedia is the only source I found to be making such a claim. It seems unfounded. https://time.com/archive/6927914/ramallah-lynching-leaves-peace-in-pieces/ The source I could find simply claimed that the police fired into the air and when they saw that this did not disperse the crowd they surrendered the two Israelis. Misplaced Pages seems to be painting a false image of the police desperately fighting the crowd while in reality it seems that they gave up without any meaningful struggle. Sdubiner (talk) 23:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

In the lead you will see '...Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching.' If you look at source you will see references to Ha'aretz and Ma'ariv reports that support the statememt. This inconsistency suggests to me that you should remove your comment, do some more due diligence, and when you are ready you can submit an edit request following the WP:EDITXY guidelines as per the WP:ARBECR rules. Also, you have no entitlement to provide reviews of the article and personal theories about intent of authors. As a non-extendedconfirmed user you are limited to submitting edits requests. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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