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== Requested move 27 July 2015 ==


== Unknown parameters check ==
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] → {{no redirect|Template:Television series overview}} – Misplaced Pages has articles on lots of types of series (books, comics, motorbikes, cameras, etc.) This template is for television series. The shorter name will remain as a redirect. I moved it once, but was reverted, apparently because "Series overviews are listed under 'Series overview' in episode listing". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Please add a module to check unknown parameters to this template. I made a list of parameters + regular expressions for all cases, which should cover ~98% of cases. I have already checked this list in Russian wikipedia and fixed about a dozen errors. There may be some unusual cases that will also need to be added to the exceptions or otherwise corrected in the articles. (Perhaps the list of expressions itself could be simplified somewhere).
*'''Oppose''': The series overview table is always listed under a header of "Series overview", hence the name. Such a table is used nowhere else - there are no "Book series overview"'s or "Camera series overviews"'s. ]&#124;]&#124;] 14:31, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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**We name templates for clarity, to make things easier for editors. Not for the subheadings under which they appear. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 14:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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:::Clarification is not required when it is only used for one thing, much like disambiguation pages. ]&#124;]&#124;] 14:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
| unknown = {{main other|]}}
::::That argument is without foundation. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 15:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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:::::As is your reply. ]&#124;]&#124;] 15:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
| preview = Page using ] with unknown parameter "_VALUE_"
*'''Support''' per nom. ] (]) 02:08, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| showblankpositional = 1
*'''Pointless''' if, as you said, {{tq|he shorter name will remain as a redirect.}} If there's nothing broken, there's nothing to fix. ] ] <small>Please &#123;&#123;]&#125;&#125;</small> 05:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| allreleased | caption | country | dontclose | id | multiseries | network | network_transclude | released | seasonT | series | seriesT | width
* '''Comment''' - ] notified . --] (]) 05:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp1 = aux
* '''Oppose''' I'm not convinced by the "we name templates for clarity" argument. If that were really true, then {{tl|Infobox settlement}} would need to be moved as it's not just used for settlements and there are many other templates whose name lacks clarity, such as {{tl|Infobox park}}, which is used for gardens as well as parks. We name templates according to their primary purpose, clarification of which should be included in the documentation. This template is used as the header for "series overview" tables so "series overview" seems a more than appropriate title. Naming of this template is consistent with {{tl|episode list}} which is used for individual episode entries. I also find {{u|EvergreenFir}}'s argument compelling. If {{tl|Series overview}} remains in place as a redirect, moving the template really achieves nothing. Somebody looking for a book series overview (if anyone does) will still end up at the same place. --] (]) 05:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp2 = aux+?
* '''Support''' – "Series" could mean anything; "Television series" is more precise. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 06:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp3 = color+S??
**As said before: The series overview table is used nowhere else - there are no "Book series overview"'s or "Camera series overviews"' Clarification is not required when it is only used for one thing, much like disambiguation pages. ]&#124;]&#124;] 07:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp4 = end+S??
*** Yes, Alex, I understand your point. My point is that I generally prefer clarity to the point where others would consider it "over-disambiguation" (IOW, this is one area what I don't necessarily totally agree with the guidelines...). Also, just because it's only template with this name ''now'' doesn't mean there won't be some template in the future with a similar name, and there's no reason not to clarify the use for this template now... Anyway, that's my opinion – I agree with Andy on this: the extra precision is a plus. --] <small>(] • ])</small> 07:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp5 = episodes+S??
****{{no redirect|Template:Television series overview}} already redirects here, so technically, the clarification already exists and hence nothing needs to be done. ]&#124;]&#124;] 07:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
| regexp6 = info
*'''Oppose'''. Moving templates is one of the most pointless things to do on Misplaced Pages, and that's saying a fair bit. ] (]) 13:30, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
| regexp7 = info+S?
*'''Oppose'' per AussieLegend and EvergreenFir. - ] (]) 21:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
| regexp8 = info_transclude
| regexp9 = linkR+S?
| regexp10 = linkT+S??
| regexp11 = link+S??
| regexp12 = network+?
| regexp13 = postaux+?
| regexp14 = postaux
| regexp15 = start+S??
| regexp16 = aux+?span
| regexp17 = info+span
| regexp18 = infospan+S
| regexp19 = network+?span
| regexp20 = postaux+?span
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</pre> ] (]) 23:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

:Added. ] (]) 06:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks! I'll clean up some of them and add to the list later on. ] (]) 11:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{para|part}} (with number and special ability) needs to be added to this. - ] (]) 21:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Also some stuff with {{para|network}} with numbers, "S" and letters. See ] as an example. - ] (]) 21:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I've been collecting all the cases too. So here's the final update, 7 & 12 to replace, and 21 to add:
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| regexp7 = info+S??
| regexp12 = network+S??
| regex21 = part+S?
</pre>
:::: The only problem left is with the ] article, which I think needs to be fixed in the module code rather than added to the tracking. I will write about it a bit later. ] (]) 00:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Added fixes to template. ] (]) 08:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] seems the 5 pages left in the category all have valid usages. Care to take a look at how to refine the regex for them? ] (]) 07:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
::::::@], I've cleaned up some of these pages and only "The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack" and "Talking Tom & Friends" remain. To fix the first one, we need to add a possible "Specials" letter where it's still missing. To do this, replace <code>+</code> part with <code>+S?</code> in regexp 2 3 16 19 20. And as for the second case - I'm still sure it's a bug in the module code, which should be fixed there instead of being added to exceptions. Because there is a parameter order logic that is described in the documentation, but the code in this single complex case only works with non-standard order when you change the standard order of part of the season letter and season number. I described this problem . ] (]) 12:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

== Template-protected edit request on 24 June 2024 ==

{{edit template-protected|Module:Series overview|answered=yes}}
Please do the changes {{diff|Module:Series overview/sandbox|1230710118|1230703423|changes}} made to this module's sandbox to the main module. This is more right from an accessibility perspective. -] (]) 07:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}. {{ping|TheDoctorWho}} this should be address now if you need to go back to your FLC about it. - ] (]) 17:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

== Tripped across a (trivial) typo ==

The description of the transclusion display parameters contains the typo "trans'''lc'''uding". Nothing major, exactly, but I thought it deserved pointing out all the same. ] (]) 01:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

:Fixed. The documentation page at ] is editable to all. -- ]<sub>&nbsp;]</sub> 07:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Unknown parameters check

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Please add a module to check unknown parameters to this template. I made a list of parameters + regular expressions for all cases, which should cover ~98% of cases. I have already checked this list in Russian wikipedia and fixed about a dozen errors. There may be some unusual cases that will also need to be added to the exceptions or otherwise corrected in the articles. (Perhaps the list of expressions itself could be simplified somewhere).

{{#invoke:check for unknown parameters|check
| unknown = {{main other|]}}
| ignoreblank = 
| preview = Page using ] with unknown parameter "_VALUE_"
| showblankpositional = 1
| allreleased | caption | country | dontclose | id | multiseries | network | network_transclude | released | seasonT | series | seriesT | width
| regexp1 = aux
| regexp2 = aux+?
| regexp3 = color+S??
| regexp4 = end+S??
| regexp5 = episodes+S??
| regexp6 = info
| regexp7 = info+S?
| regexp8 = info_transclude
| regexp9 = linkR+S?
| regexp10 = linkT+S??
| regexp11 = link+S??
| regexp12 = network+?
| regexp13 = postaux+?
| regexp14 = postaux
| regexp15 = start+S??
| regexp16 = aux+?span
| regexp17 = info+span
| regexp18 = infospan+S
| regexp19 = network+?span
| regexp20 = postaux+?span
}}

Solidest (talk) 23:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Added. Gonnym (talk) 06:07, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll clean up some of them and add to the list later on. Solidest (talk) 11:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
|part= (with number and special ability) needs to be added to this. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Also some stuff with |network= with numbers, "S" and letters. See List of The Office (British TV series) episodes as an example. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, I've been collecting all the cases too. So here's the final update, 7 & 12 to replace, and 21 to add:
| regexp7 = info+S??
| regexp12 = network+S??
| regex21 = part+S?
The only problem left is with the Talking Tom & Friends article, which I think needs to be fixed in the module code rather than added to the tracking. I will write about it a bit later. Solidest (talk) 00:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Added fixes to template. Gonnym (talk) 08:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
@Solidest seems the 5 pages left in the category all have valid usages. Care to take a look at how to refine the regex for them? Gonnym (talk) 07:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
@Gonnym, I've cleaned up some of these pages and only "The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack" and "Talking Tom & Friends" remain. To fix the first one, we need to add a possible "Specials" letter where it's still missing. To do this, replace + part with +S? in regexp 2 3 16 19 20. And as for the second case - I'm still sure it's a bug in the module code, which should be fixed there instead of being added to exceptions. Because there is a parameter order logic that is described in the documentation, but the code in this single complex case only works with non-standard order when you change the standard order of part of the season letter and season number. I described this problem here. Solidest (talk) 12:09, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 24 June 2024

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Please do the changes changes made to this module's sandbox to the main module. This is more right from an accessibility perspective. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done. @TheDoctorWho: this should be address now if you need to go back to your FLC about it. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Tripped across a (trivial) typo

The description of the transclusion display parameters contains the typo "translcuding". Nothing major, exactly, but I thought it deserved pointing out all the same. DybrarH (talk) 01:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. The documentation page at Template:Series overview/doc is editable to all. -- Alex_21 TALK 07:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Television § Released: Airing vs streaming

 You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Television § Released: Airing vs streaming. Editors are still needed to weigh in on this. This is affects the {{Series overview}} and {{Episode table}}. — YoungForever 13:35, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

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