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Welcome to '''WikiProject World's Oldest People'''! Welcome to '''WikiProject World's Oldest People'''!

'''This page has been superseded. If you have current concerns or want to participate in the subject matter, go to ].'''


==About us== ==About us==

:''See ].'' :''See ].''


This WikiProject and its editors aim to create, improve, update, discuss and assess articles and lists about the world's oldest people, collaboratively. This WikiProject and its editors aim to create, improve, update, discuss and assess articles and lists about the world's oldest people, collaboratively.


== Article alerts ==
⚫ ==Notability and sourcing==
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⚫ ] is a reliable source for ages, for dates of birth and death, and for whether an individual holds or held a record for human longevity.


⚫ ==Notability==
⚫ E (verified supercentenarians) and (verified supercentenarians sorted by death date) to be ] because all entries in these tables are fact-checked according to the process outlined . However, (pending verification supercentenarians) is not a ] because entries have not been fact-checked. Therefore, Table EE ''cannot'' be used as a source for information on Misplaced Pages.
The subject or topic of all articles, including those on ] and ], must meet Misplaced Pages's ] at a minimum.

⚫ There is currently no consensus about the reliability of the journal '']''.


=== Biographies === === Biographies ===
Articles on ] and ] are ]. The notability guidelines for biographies apply. Significant, independent coverage in ] is required. Articles on ] and ] are ]. The notability guidelines for biographies apply. Significant, independent coverage in ] is required.


Some long-lived people are notable principally for their advanced age, e.g., ]. If the individual is not notable in any other way, the article is subject to ]. A subject whose biography is based on only one or two reliable sources establishing ] may belong on a list, rather than in a stand-alone biography, unless these sources provide significant details beyond longevity. These articles are subject to ]. A subject whose biography is based on only one or two reliable sources establishing ] may belong on a list, rather than in a stand-alone biography, unless these sources provide significant details beyond longevity.


Some centenarians and supercentenarians are notable for reasons in addition to their longevity, e.g., ]. In such cases, notable aspects of the subject's life, that are reported in reliable sources, should be included in the subject's biography. Supercentenarians whose age has been reported in reliable sources should be included in longevity-related lists, whether or not other notable, reliably-sourced facts justify a stand-alone biography. Some centenarians and supercentenarians are notable for reasons in addition to their longevity, e.g., ]. In such cases, notable aspects of the subject's life, that are reported in reliable sources, should be included in the subject's biography. Supercentenarians whose age has been reported in reliable sources should be included in longevity-related lists, whether or not other notable, reliably-sourced facts justify a stand-alone biography.
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Although not the primary focus of this project, cases where advanced age is contested or in doubt should be considered for notability using the same criteria as cases where advanced age has been verified by independent, reliable sources, e.g., ] is notable. Although not the primary focus of this project, cases where advanced age is contested or in doubt should be considered for notability using the same criteria as cases where advanced age has been verified by independent, reliable sources, e.g., ] is notable.


When sufficient reliable secondary sources establish notability that calls for a stand-alone biography, the following primary or tertiary sources may be used, for limited purposes only. They may supplement reliable sources, but no article should be based solely or primarily on these sources, and no article should rely on these sources alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead. When sufficient reliable secondary sources establish notability that calls for a stand-alone biography, the following primary or tertiary sources may be used, for limited purposes only. They may supplement reliable sources, but no article should be based solely or primarily on these sources, and no article should rely on these sources alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead.


==== Databases ==== === Living people ===
⚫ When a person is still living or recently deceased, the ] apply. Note that '''it must not be stated that a person falsified his or her age or date of birth unless that has been clearly reported in independent, reliable sources'''.
⚫ There are various verification services and databases of long-lived people. Information on these databases may be in the process of checking rather than fully checked. They have been described on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard as more in the nature of "works-in-progress." Such databases may be consulted in order to find further direction to more reliable sources. The databases should be viewed with even more care where they disagree:


=== Lists ===
*] table E and table I are reliable sources but table EE is not reliable and cannot be used.
⚫ In regard to lists of centenarians and supercentenarians, and lists of unverified, disputed or disproved claims to longevity, ] applies. Independent, reliable sources are required. All items must be supported by a citation or a link to an article. Individuals may be included even if they are only notable for their longevity, or claim to longevity, and even if there is not enough material for a stand-alone biography article.
⚫ *The Oldest Human Beings (OHB) list hosted at http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/oldest.html has none of the indicia of a ], as that term is defined in wikipedia policy. It should only be used only as a backup for reliable sources.
*The Yahoo! group health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Worlds_Oldest_People, is a discussion group and not reliable.
⚫ *Any other forum or discussion group is not a relaible source.


== Sourcing ==
No article should be based solely or primarily on any of these databases, and no article should rely on any one of them alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead.
All sources used on Misplaced Pages must meet the ]. If the reliability of a source is in doubt, obtain the community's input at the ] (RSN).


=== Living people === === Databases ===
⚫ There are various verification services and databases of long-lived people. Information on these databases may be in the process of checking rather than fully checked. They have been described at RSN as more in the nature of "works-in-progress." Such databases may be consulted in order to find further direction to more reliable sources. The databases should be viewed with even more care where they disagree. No article should be based solely or primarily on any of these databases, and no article should rely on any one of them alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead.
⚫ When a person is still living, the strict, exacting ] apply. Note that it must not be stated that a person falsified his or her age or date of birth unless that has been clearly reported in independent, reliable sources.
⚫ *] is a reliable source for ages, for dates of birth and death, and for whether an individual holds or held a record for human longevity.
⚫ *]'s (GRG) E (verified supercentenarians) and (verified supercentenarians sorted by death date) to be ] because all entries in these tables are fact-checked according to the process outlined . However, GRG's (pending verification supercentenarians) is not a ] because entries have not been fact-checked. Therefore, Table EE ''cannot'' be used as a source for information on Misplaced Pages.
⚫ *The list has none of the indicia of a ], as that term is defined in wikipedia policy.
* is and cannot be used.


=== Lists === === Journals ===
⚫ *There is currently no consensus about the reliability of the journal '']''.


=== Obituaries and newspaper articles ===
⚫ In regard to lists of centenarians and supercentenarians, and lists of unverified, disputed or disproved claims to longevity, ] applies. Independent, reliable sources are required. All items must be supported by a citation or a link to an article. Individuals may be included even if they are only notable for their longevity, or claim to longevity, and even if there is not enough material for a stand-alone biography article.
*Family- and self-written obituaries, such as those listed on , , on funeral home websites, and published in newspapers, are reliable for the date of death but are not reliable for the date of birth or age.
*Newspaper-written articles and obituaries may or may not be reliable sources. When in doubt, ask editors at RSN whether a particular newspaper article is a reliable source for birth and/or death dates and age in a particular article.

=== Forums and discussion groups ===
*The 110 Club is a discussion group and is not a reliable source.
*Global Supercentenarian Forum is a discussion group and is not a reliable source.
⚫ *Any other forum or discussion group is not a reliable source.


== Article structure == == Article structure ==
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|'''Need'''||The article's priority or importance, regardless of its quality. |'''Need'''||The article's priority or importance, regardless of its quality.
|- |-
|{{Top-Class}}||Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopedia. For biographies, all-time record-holders for oldest woman and man, e.g., ], ], ]. |{{Top-Class}}||Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopedia on the subject matter, e.g., ], ].
|- |-
|{{High-Class}}||Subject contributes a depth of knowledge. For biographies, aged 115+ for women, 113+ for men. Also, national recordholders, e.g., ], and Oldest Person in the World, e.g. ]. |{{High-Class}}||Subject contributes a depth of knowledge such as the biographies of any world's oldest person (oldest male and female) (e.g. ] and ]).
|- |-
|{{Mid-Class}}||Subject fills in more minor details such as lists of the oldest people by continent and countries like ], ] or ] along with biographies for any national or continental oldest individuals.
|{{Mid-Class}}||Subject fills in more minor details. For biographies, aged 112–114 for women, 110–112 for men, e.g., ].
|- |-
|{{Low-Class}}||Subject is mainly of specialist interest. For biographies, aged 110–111, e.g., ]. |{{Low-Class}}||Subject is mainly of specialist interest such as biographies on any individuals who are not world's oldest person/man/woman, and ].
|} |}


==Participants== ==Participation==
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== Edit summaries ==
Members of this project are committed to the highest standards of transparency and verifiability. Toward that end, members of the project editing in mainspace should make sure to accompany their edits with edit summaries. In the words of ] <blockquote>'''It is considered good practice to provide a summary for every edit''', especially when ] (undoing) the actions of other editors or deleting existing text; otherwise, people may question your motives for the edit.<br>Accurate summaries help other contributors decide whether it is worthwhile for them to review an edit, and to understand the change should they choose to review it. When a major edit (e.g. deletion of a substantial amount of text) doesn't have an edit summary, there are fewer reasons to ] and busy editors may be more inclined to revert the change without checking it in detail. Summaries are less important for '']'' (which means generally unchallengeable changes such as spelling or grammar corrections), but a brief note like "fixed spelling" is helpful even then.</blockquote>
Multiple, daily edits without edit summaries are disruptive to the collaboration that is the hallmark of excellent wikipedia projects and articles. Such editing patterns are to be avoided.


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Welcome to WikiProject World's Oldest People!

This page has been superseded. If you have current concerns or want to participate in the subject matter, go to WP:WikiProject Longevity.

About us

See Category:WikiProject World's Oldest People articles.

This WikiProject and its editors aim to create, improve, update, discuss and assess articles and lists about the world's oldest people, collaboratively.

Article alerts

Categories for discussion

Notability

The subject or topic of all articles, including those on centenarians and supercentenarians, must meet Misplaced Pages's general notability guideline at a minimum.

Biographies

Articles on centenarians and supercentenarians are biographies. The notability guidelines for biographies apply. Significant, independent coverage in reliable sources is required.

These articles are subject to Misplaced Pages policy guidance on one-event biographies. A subject whose biography is based on only one or two reliable sources establishing notability may belong on a list, rather than in a stand-alone biography, unless these sources provide significant details beyond longevity.

Some centenarians and supercentenarians are notable for reasons in addition to their longevity, e.g., Leila Denmark. In such cases, notable aspects of the subject's life, that are reported in reliable sources, should be included in the subject's biography. Supercentenarians whose age has been reported in reliable sources should be included in longevity-related lists, whether or not other notable, reliably-sourced facts justify a stand-alone biography.

Although not the primary focus of this project, cases where advanced age is contested or in doubt should be considered for notability using the same criteria as cases where advanced age has been verified by independent, reliable sources, e.g., Old Tom Parr is notable.

When sufficient reliable secondary sources establish notability that calls for a stand-alone biography, the following primary or tertiary sources may be used, for limited purposes only. They may supplement reliable sources, but no article should be based solely or primarily on these sources, and no article should rely on these sources alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead.

Living people

When a person is still living or recently deceased, the guidelines on biographies of living people apply. Note that it must not be stated that a person falsified his or her age or date of birth unless that has been clearly reported in independent, reliable sources.

Lists

In regard to lists of centenarians and supercentenarians, and lists of unverified, disputed or disproved claims to longevity, WP:LISTPEOPLE applies. Independent, reliable sources are required. All items must be supported by a citation or a link to an article. Individuals may be included even if they are only notable for their longevity, or claim to longevity, and even if there is not enough material for a stand-alone biography article.

Sourcing

All sources used on Misplaced Pages must meet the reliable sources guideline. If the reliability of a source is in doubt, obtain the community's input at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (RSN).

Databases

There are various verification services and databases of long-lived people. Information on these databases may be in the process of checking rather than fully checked. They have been described at RSN as more in the nature of "works-in-progress." Such databases may be consulted in order to find further direction to more reliable sources. The databases should be viewed with even more care where they disagree. No article should be based solely or primarily on any of these databases, and no article should rely on any one of them alone in order to make assertions about subjects' history of records broken, rank-order placement in longevity-related lists, or current status as alive or dead.

Journals

Obituaries and newspaper articles

  • Family- and self-written obituaries, such as those listed on Legacy.com, Tributes.com, on funeral home websites, and published in newspapers, are reliable for the date of death but are not reliable for the date of birth or age.
  • Newspaper-written articles and obituaries may or may not be reliable sources. When in doubt, ask editors at RSN whether a particular newspaper article is a reliable source for birth and/or death dates and age in a particular article.

Forums and discussion groups

  • The 110 Club is a discussion group and is not a reliable source.
  • Global Supercentenarian Forum is a discussion group and is not a reliable source.
  • Any other forum or discussion group is not a reliable source.

Article structure

Biographies should be structured in the normal manner for biographies. List articles should be formatted according to best practice for lists. Embedded lists should be avoided in articles.

Assessment

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Importance guide

Need The article's priority or importance, regardless of its quality.
Top Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopedia on the subject matter, e.g., Supercentenarian, List of the verified oldest people.
High Subject contributes a depth of knowledge such as the biographies of any world's oldest person (oldest male and female) (e.g. Jeanne Calment and Jiroemon Kimura).
Mid Subject fills in more minor details such as lists of the oldest people by continent and countries like List of Canadian supercentenarians, List of European supercentenarians or List of Japanese supercentenarians along with biographies for any national or continental oldest individuals.
Low Subject is mainly of specialist interest such as biographies on any individuals who are not world's oldest person/man/woman, and List of last survivors of historical events.

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