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== Overqualified? ==


Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". ]&nbsp;<span style="color:red">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
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... how long will stay visible. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 07:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
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: What do you expect where not even flowers are welcome? --] (]) 07:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:: ]: ]'s telling an unprovoked lie about me. Seriously, what the fuck? And why now? When's the last time I even interacted with the guy? And why not delete his (''actual'') trolling of me while you're at it? These questions aren't rhetorical ...
:: ... and what in the flying fuck are you accusing me of that would "backfire"?! What fucking game ''is'' this?! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
::: I wonder what makes the difference between ] and ], protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between ] and ]. --] (]) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::: I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::. But you keep telling yourself that. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::: ] "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::"Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::: "Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">]<sup>]</sup></span>''' 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::: You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::: Of course, a troll'd troll poorly if they didn't deny everything, so I guess the only thing to do at this point is to keep this horseshit out in the open—sunlight as disinfectant. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


==Talkback==
== GA nomination question ==
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: ]: Are you sure? I don't see anything, and it's not an area I normally edit. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
:: I ran into an IP-hopper/vandal who was deleting the phrase from the disambiguation line of the article & you had edited the article somewhat recently (lol maybe August of lAst year?) and I was wondering what the consensus about the phrase might be. That's all - an admin stepped in on the situation. Thanks, ] (]) 05:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


== 2019 ==
Hi Curly Turkey, I noticed 4 or 5 days ago that you opened a review page for an article that I had nominated (]), however, in the days since, I have heard nothing from you regarding the review or the article. Were you planning on communicating with me in any manor regarding this?--] (]) 06:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
:Hey. I've been waiting for you to say you've been through the article to make sure everything's got an online cite. Have you done that? Once you have, I can continue. ]&nbsp;] 08:46, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
::The point I have been getting at is that I generally expect a degree of communication during these things, regardless of the content, or lack thereof, of the article in question. Can't say I've seen that here. Heck, you've have talked to Retrohead more about the article when he wasn't the one who nominated it! (No disrespect meant to you Retro). Additionally, I had left a few comments and made a few fixes (though definitely not everything wrong with the article) on the article, had you bothered to check. --] (]) 19:50, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
::: ]: Sorry about that. After your initial comments, I assumed you'd notify me when you got everything sourced, or at least after you'd dealt with those "Will look into"s—especially given that's exactly what I said in the opening to the review. Given how much hadn't been sourced, I assumed there'd be major enough changes to the content that I thought it would be best to wait until that was done before finishing the review. I contacted Retrohead because (a) he contacted me first and (b) I knew he had access to sources since he'd done the Megadeth FA. With no activity on the review page, it doen't show up on my watchlist to remind me to return. ]&nbsp;] 22:14, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Oh, ok. So its just a misunderstanding then. Sorry for coming across in an irritated manor. I've had increasingly bad interactions with other editors and reviewers, and as a result I take exception to stuff increasingly easily anymore. I'm frustrated almost to the point of leaving to be honest. Back on topic, I assumed you had been keeping an eye on the review page, no big deal though. Probably not going to get to it tonight, but I'll revisit the so-far-listed issues on the page, fix what needs fixed and I'll get back to you shortly. As for the rest of the page, we can deal with it as it comes along.--] (]) 22:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::I believe that between myself and Retrohead, the initial issues previously pointed out have been addressed. If you could proceed to inspect the following paragraphs, that would be great--] (]) 16:30, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::Ok, new stuff fixed, or at least addressed on the review page--] (]) 17:49, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::I've addressed the two iffy sources you pointed out--] (]) 00:11, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I just saw today that you passed the article. Just wanted to say thanks for reviewing it. Take care!--] (]) 22:25, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


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Hi Curly. I just wanted to leave a note of thanks for your efforts and review at the FAC for the AACS medallions article. I noticed your correction of the 'notes' template; I'll remember the way you did it in case I need to use those in future articles.-] (]) 21:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)


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… about the meltdown. Holidays, house guests, a visit to the ER and FAC. What can I say? Except I'm sorry you got in the line of fire. Btw - also, I cringed when I realized I'd jumped from '''cr''' to '''cy''' right over '''cu''' when idly posting xmas greetings while waiting for a delayed flight to arrive. So - better late than never - here's hoping you and yours have a wonderful 2015! ] (]) 02:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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: Thanks—I've been waiting for the flurry of edits to die down before returning to the FAC. Hope your January will be a bit more fun (we've got an influenza case at home, but it hasn't got to me&nbsp;... yet&nbsp;...). ]&nbsp;] 02:29, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
: アケオメ! ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
:: It hit me unexpectedly hard at a bad time, but as they say, stuff happens. Anyway, I finally got a chance to review my files and think I'm finally finished at the FAC. Stay healthy! ] (]) 02:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)


:: Please check out "Happy" once more, for ], and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Misplaced Pages, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? - Can you check out the last entry on my talk, for notabilty? Look for "Japanese". --] (]) 13:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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: Do you mean copyedit, or do you want me to hunt down sources? ]&nbsp;] 22:26, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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:Both. Do you eat this stuff? ] (]) 22:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::I don't like octopus—it's so chewy. The rest of my family eats it frequently. I'll see what I can do, but I honestly don't know where I'd start. I can't believe someone found enough sources to make Black Thunder a GA. ]&nbsp;] 22:47, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Hmmm&nbsp;... perhaps it's in the first place, and just happens to be popular there (my wife has some once in a while—I don't drink coffee, let alone eat it). ]&nbsp;] 22:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: And ]&nbsp;] 22:56, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::Noo, not a GA{{Smiley}}. Do you eat it raw? ] (]) 22:49, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Octopus? I've seen on TV where people ate it live (!!!), but I don't think it's normally eaten raw. It's definitely cooked in takoyaki (the "yaki" means "cooked"). ]&nbsp;] 22:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::*Ah. So it's not sushi. And ] ] (]) 23:10, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::** You mean ]. ] doesn't require raw fish—sometimes the fish is cooked (like with ]), and even more often there's no fishi in it at all (just vegetables or whatever). I'm on the fence with ]. At the moment, I think the two articles should be merged (rather than deleting one). Only time will tell if it really merits its own article. ]&nbsp;] 23:21, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::Oh, you Japanese. I thought shushi was raw fish. ] (]) 23:49, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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I also don't recall any specific time in the past he's told me to stay off his talk page; he's blanked my comments a bunch of times with nonsense/sarcastic/degrading edit summaries, but the closest he came to was "Do not post on my talk page unless it is an actual discussion" -- hardly "specifically to stop posting to talk page ", and by telling me to "Cease immediately, else be faced with a report similar to those threaten and intimidate multiple other editors with" -- I don't even know what he's talking about, since it's been months since I "threatened" a single editor with such a report, and then not with the intent of "intimidating" like using legalistic language like "cease immediately". (And yes, I know he's almost certainly referring to , in which I said {{tq|''dig your heels in, deny, and get blocked to prevent further damage to the project''}} but there was also the critical context in which it was posted -- {{tq|''Seriously, take the hint here. I'm trying to ''help'' you, but you are digging yourself a hole that you're not going to be able to get out of. '''' I'm ''begging you'' '''' to ''''.''}})
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: Does that Gilbert Jordan one have something to do with April Fool's Day? ]&nbsp;] 06:08, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
::Well, maybe ... Curly, you were supposed to nominate that turkey as a featured pic, preferably before is going down in the drain in the archives or you get blocked on more Jesus Charlie issues. I f you have a second free, maybe you could try? Do you need help? ] (]) 07:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


== January 2019 ==
You put this: Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/File:1 Wild Turkey.jpg in the box called Create new nominations, than fill in. It's a home run. ] (]) 07:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
: Oh!—sorry, I didn't understand when you gave me that link. I thought it meant you were going to nominate it. I'll do that now. ]&nbsp;] 09:03, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:: I've done it. ]&nbsp;] 09:15, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Well, that is very good. Now you have to go this page ] ... and add it - the title, in curly brackets, to the other ones - so people can start voting on it ..too. ] (]) 09:55, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:::: Argh—like in FAC, I should have known. Done. ]&nbsp;] 09:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)


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:Hi. Thanks for participating in the . I really appreciate it. One thing: A new photo has been uploaded and added to the discussion. I hope I'm not bothering you by asking if you would mind indicating whether this changes your viewpoint, or whether it remains unchanged? Thank you very much. ] (]) 12:44, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


Hi. Please do not restore that content again. The thread was closed to stop you and the other editor arguing unproductively. Carrying on afterwards is not acceptable, hence its removal. Restore it again and I will block your account from editing for disruption. Regards, <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 11:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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: ]: It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless, so you're not accomplishing anything but aggravating people with this behaviour. You still have the option to revert and hat, like I requested—unless threatening victims of harassment with blocks is more your style. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
::As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to ]. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
::: ]: I requested you to hat it rather than obfuscate the record, and you responded with an immediate revert and threat to block, choosing the more aggressive of the options. And here you are reiterating the threat (twice in one post) when it's obvious I'm not about to revert it. Your heels are too firmly dug in to get my hopes up, but perhaps you'll reconsider your approach in the future. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::A re-revert, not a revert. If it's "obvious (you're) not about to revert it" then why say "It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless"? If I mistook your meaning there I do apologize. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 13:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::: As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
:::::Which is fine, that's what ANI is for, no objection to that. Apologies again for mistaking your meaning - I was under the impression it meant you were going to re-post the content at the end of a closed thread, again. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:1.1em/1em Arial Black;letter-spacing:-0.09em">]+]</u> 15:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


== Interaction ban ==
I was wondering why you deleted the RS-supported fact that she was identified as a suspect, ? Nor can I tell from your edit summary why you did so. Thanks. --] (]) 07:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
: {{ping|Epeefleche}} The word "suspect" may not appear, but if "possible accomplice of Coulibaly, and is being sought by French police" doesn't make that clear, then Jesus Christ! If it makes you feel better, change "possible" to "suspected". ]&nbsp;] 08:33, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::A "person of interest" and the like may be a possible accomplice who is sought by the police; they may be someone "involved" in a criminal investigation who is not suspected of committing the crime by the police. A "suspect" is a significantly higher level. It is a known person who the police have put into the category of people they officially suspect have considered a crime. They are different things. When you delete suspect, you delete something very material, in a section about the person. ] (]) 10:14, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::It's immaterial now as I've restored the word "suspected", but when someone is ''sought as a possible accomplice to a crime'' there's no way to interpret that but as "suspect". ]&nbsp;] 10:20, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::: I have no idea why you think was an improvement. ]&nbsp;] 10:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::The phrase "is a " is different from the non-technical "is suspected." It has a technical meaning. ] (]) 06:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: Is it a difference that matters in the context? It someone is being sought as an accomplice to a crime, is there a context in which that does not carry the technical meaning of "suspect"? This article isn't a court document, remember—we want it to be as readable as possible. ]&nbsp;] 06:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::Yes. Certainly. Once can be "suspected" by the police, without having been declared by the police a (in her case, an "armed and dangerous" ...) suspect. We want it to be both readable and accurate and also to convey precisely, not in a vague way. Everybody suspected by the police is not a police-designated "suspect." The verbiage of ''The Independent'' is both readable and precise: "". ] (]) 06:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::: Well, that's finer a distinction than I'm able to comprehend, but I'll take your word for it. I'm likely not alone in finding that the wording appears redundant. ]&nbsp;] 07:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks. This may help. Every person who is accused of something at a trial and defends themselves is not a defendant -- the Plaintiff could be accused of something. Every person who the FBI very much wants is not an FBI Most Wanted. Etc. ] (]) 14:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


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== Regarding Borodin and news from Moscow ==
Please point out where in the manual of style that the lede not to be considered part of the article. Thanks ] (]) 12:48, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
: ]: The whole reason the lead is not required to have citations is because those citations ''must be in the body''. Further, the lead is a ''summary'' (per ]) of the body—if you include something that in the summary that's not the thing being summarized then ''it's not a summary''. This is also why the ] script doesn't register a link as a duplink when it appears for the first time in the body even though it already appears in the lead (install the script and then try it on, say, ]—you'll notice that ] appears once in the lead and again in the body, yet doesn't get highlighted as a duplink).
: Need any more evidence? This is very, very well established, so I trust you'll stop with the reverts. ]&nbsp;] 12:57, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::The link isn't my main reason for reverting CT, it's ]. Your edit means that that specific text ('Islamic prophet') is now in the article twice after I specifically cleaned it up earlier. Note the policy: Once per article. Now are you going to keep reverting that text back into the article? ] (]) 13:01, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Yes, I've read WP:SAWW, and you're obviously misreading the spirit of the letter. The lead is a stand-alone summary of the article—you cannot summarize something that is not in the body of text being summarized. Notice WP:SAWW does ''not'' say "Once per article"—it says "when it is the first reference in an article". The article itself being the body, of which the lead is a stand-alone summary. Just think of how ridiculous this would be—a "Background" section detailing the offense of depicting Muhammad—the central inciting incident for the attack—but that ''does not once'' bother to state ''who'' this "Muhammad" guy is? Please take a moment to ponder this before any further hairsplitting. ]&nbsp;] 13:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Yes, the lede is a summary of the rest of the article, but it is also an introduction (]) and itself a part of that article. As an introduction, it's obvious that it's the location to introduce users to who Muhammad is, given that the dude is mentioned there. I don't think I'm the one misreading things here, CT. ] (]) 13:35, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: So you simply ignored what I wrote? Or you seriously believe the "Background" section should just skip out on telling the reader who the central character in the controversy actually was? Perhaps we should leave the number of dead or the names of the shooters out of the body as well---it's all redundant once it's mentioned in the lead! Ditto the dates and locations of the attacks ... Try bringing it up with the MoS people and see if any of them take your WikiLawyering seriously. You're damaging the body by removing a ''key background detail''. ]&nbsp;] 13:43, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::I read what you wrote. I think you're wrong. Introduction via the lede will have already framed which Muhammad is under discussion. There is no need to repeatedly reframe the context for readers. ]. ] (]) 13:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::: So you simply refuse to address how a summary could summarize something that doesn't exist in the text behind summarized? Right, right, right: ]. Oh, and "]." Unless it's trivial (pronunciation keys, alternate spellings, etc), we simply don't put things in the lead that aren't in the article. ''Who Muhammad was'' is a ''key detail'' in the background of the article. I mean, ''Jesus Christ'': '''''"There is no need to repeatedly reframe the context for readers"'''''—?!? Just what do you think the entire lead ''is'', then? These details are framed ''once''—in the ''body''—and are ''summarized'' in the lead. You're not ''seriously'' going to dispute that, are you? If you are, your dispute is with Misplaced Pages, not me. ]&nbsp;] 14:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::: Whatever. Take it up at the talk page. I have. ]&nbsp;] 14:53, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::::: Okay. I'm sorry you're frustrated with me. I wish there was a way to send you cake over the internet by way of thanks for your civility. ] (]) 15:03, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


In regard to , I don't think it was ''The Moscow News'' at the time Borodin worked there. The sources I used referred to ''Moscow News'', and the . The name ''The Moscow News'' seems to have been adopted in one of the more recent incarnations of the paper. ] — ] 06:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Within moments of the 令和 announcement, the BBC and multiple other English-language outlets had announced that 令 meant "order" or "command" (the clearly bogus implication that the two are different, and therefore that it means order in the sense 順番 or the like, aside, a 万葉集 Book V passage was clearly cited as the source, and in that context it meant "good" or "auspicious"). The administration's intentions in choosing a character that to 99% of Japanese means "command" can be speculated on, I guess, but it just seemed sloppy to me; someone cited them in our article, I tagged the citation as not being the best, and shortly thereafter the BBC article had been partly amended, using the same words as my tag did. I'm definitely not the only one to notice that error, and I wasn't the first, but I imagine a ''lot'' of people were looking at Misplaced Pages to check these things.
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All that said, a bunch of source's have mistakenly identified the 万葉集 as "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", apparently mirroring a mistranslation that appeared on the Kantei's website. I could have probably prevented some of that if I had done several days ago (or years ago when I first noticed that it was quite a common problem) what I just did now and added "It is not Japan's oldest poetry anthology" to the lead of our article.
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It'll probably not be until the next era change (I kinda wish Japan would go back to the old system where eras change a lot more frequently than sovereigns) before my area of the encyclopedia gets that much attention.
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btw - where you have put that information now, I think is good - it flows better in the story of the magazine in a way - and in a way it made me think - -of course they will make cartoons that upset this religion at this point because its more visible - in the nineteenth century they would have been just focused on the catholic church and Calvinists or whatever. and it doesn't imply anything sinister about the religion - it just joins all the other religions for the secularist left to have a go at.] (]) 01:23, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
: Have you been following the English coverage? It gets {{em|soooooo}} much shittier than all that. Check out how many sources translate 令 not only as "order" but '''"orderly"''' (!!!!!), so that they translate 令和 as '''"orderly peace"''' (!'''!'''!'''!'''!).
* Well, thanks! Let's see if it'll stick. ]&nbsp;] 01:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
: You appear to be aware that there's controversy in the press and amongst politicians over the name, and there really should be more in the article about it (for example, it's been brought up that the only other time in history 令 was proposed in a nengō was with 令徳, which was rejected as implying "徳川に命令する", so the concerns with the choice "really" meaning "command" are nothing new, and likely known when the choce was made).
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: The '']'' article could sure use some love, eh? I was going to make some comment about what you were saying, but then thought I'd double-check the article to see if I had my facts straight ... the article wasn't helpful, so I'll button my lips. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 10:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


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Before I go, I must of course express my shock at how satire was attacked by this terrible event. When I first heard the news, I thought immediately of the satire of both Harvey Kurtzman and Mad magazine, and I thought about how much you and I respect the publication of satire. Where satire is discussed in this article, I'm glad you are there to ensure the article gets it right. Cheers. ] (]) 14:15, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
: I could probably be more tactful, but I doubt it'd be any more effective with partisans who cover their ears, anyways. It's a good thing I have no aspirations towards adminship, eh? ]&nbsp;] 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:: I believe you would be more effective with them. Everyone is a person who doesn't want to get their feelings hurt. You've been around wise people who have won your respect, despite a difference of opinion, haven't you? Well. there you go.


Did you read the source attached to the sentence you contended? <br />{{cite web |title={{lang|ja|「令和」考案は中西進氏 古事記・日本書紀含め、3案が国書典拠}}|url=https://mainichi.jp/articles/20190402/k00/00m/040/360000c |language=ja |quote=政府が1日に有識者や閣僚らに提示した六つの新元号案は「令和」のほか、「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」だった}}.
::Hey, some wiki gossip: Our fellow editor Neelix was wikihounded to the point of resigning last week. ] (]) 20:53, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:: I heard something about that on that deletion discussion (you commented there, too, didn't you?) I don't know the details. It's hard to be tactful with people when they ]&nbsp;] 21:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::I saw that; those are the times when we could choose to be even more annoyed or we could choose to just laugh. Sometimes something disguised as a trial is actually life becoming more ironically humorous and bearable! On that deletion discussion there was an editor who flatly stated he disagreed with what I said but also stated he respected the way I said it. I went to his talk page and told him I respected him as well, and we found something to agree about and left each other with mutual respect. That was a win; if I have to disagree with someone, that's the kind of disagreement I strive for. ] (]) 23:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: Those things happen. I seem to remember some friction when you and I first came across each other&nbsp;... Formerip has made it clear to me, though, that he's only interested in fillibustering the discussion. We're not having a "disagreement", he's simply generating a long list of baldfaced lies. I'm going to try to reboot the converstation at Charlie Hebdo shooting with a mind to changing the tone. ]&nbsp;] 23:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::Good for you. Hopefully your new tone will pleasantly surprise them and lead to something positive. Of course it won't work on everyone but I'll bet it will work on some. And the others could actually have a valid point too. Yes, the details between you and I have faded but I remember with shame some friction between us and have resolved to try to never let that kind of thing happen with anyone again. I even remember letting you down in some way. You probably weren't fishing but while I am thinking about it, please accept my apology for whatever that was. I'm sure I could have handled it in a calmer way. BTW, I finally got ''Masterful Marks: Cartoonists Who Have Changed The World'' in the mail today; will start reading it now and add it to ''Annie'' later. ] (]) 23:29, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::Nice. I just got Craig Yoe's '']'' book; I haven't gotten around to using it much on ], but I probably will this weekend. One of these days I'll get my hands on '''' and really finish off the article. I hope to get back to copyediting ''Annie'' this weekend, too. I'd've done it by now if it weren't for Charlie Hebdo. Normally I steer clear of political articles, and I think you can see why. ]&nbsp;] 02:08, 16 January 2015 (UTC)


See also <br />{{cite web |title=英弘、久化、広至、万和、万保=政府提示の他5元号案判明 |date=April 2, 2019 |work=Jiji.com |url=https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2019040200256&g=pol |quote=新元号選定をめぐり、政府が有識者懇談会などに示した六つの原案のうち選ばれなかった五つは「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」と分かった}}.</span>
* Well, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that Abductive would first (with another claim that the "material is against the now well-established talk page consensus" that has been beaten into the rest of us) and then and saying what we've added is "disgracing the article". ]&nbsp;] 05:46, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
::I saw that. I'm sorry that those editors are like that. As an interesting exercise, try to understand them. Get inside their minds and be them and try to figure out why they are like that. I think I can understand them. They are on the side of the vast majority of innocent Muslims and who can blame them. Unfortunately look where their compassion has lead: to illogical and unfair banning, unproductive and lazy refusal to offer counter proposals, and mean-spirited and immature rebellion. And that's just the dissenters going in the one direction. But understanding them is an important step: people want to be understood (you want to be understood, right?) It could lead to productivity and actually accomplishing a workable result. Try extending an olive branch. Ah well. I does seem a little hopeless at the moment. Imagine how the administrators feel. I appreciate how that one editor summed it up a few hours ago. But it really isn't that important to "win". There are lots of other areas to work on here. It's interesting to hear you talk about historic comics that I didn't know existed. There is so much out there, isn't there. ] (]) 13:26, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
::: I know what you're saying, but there's a big difference between an Abductive single-mindedly trying to "set the record straight" and a FormerIP whose motivation is to stir the pot—it's not like he can pass for ''believing'' the manure he shoveled on that discussion. A "difference of opinion" that wasn't. ]&nbsp;] 03:00, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: Well, I honestly thought Gamebuster was going to come out against the content. 03:11, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: You're right when referring to trolls, that's what they do, but even they could be motivated by a valid point sometimes. It's almost a game; treat people with the respect they crave, take the high road, and see what happens. It's exciting when it actually pays off: I believe the editor you mention was genuinely surprised when you stopped being predictably loud and started being unpredictably wise; you were not as two-dimensional as he realized he himself was behaving. Notice how he took a break to cool off and then came back with a compromise; we could all learn from that. I was glad to see you agree with his compromise, why wouldn't you, you're reasonable. Now let's get that new paragraph in the article. ] (]) 20:31, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: Unrelated, blatant canvasing request: Could you please stop by ] and consider Supporting? Crisco 1492 and Dank have already looked at it very closely. Thanks. ] (]) 20:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
* ]: ]&nbsp;] 05:22, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:: I am really sorry about what happened. We convinced one of them to be part of a rational discussion and resolution but certainly did not convince two other hardcore editors. It's interesting what we can pick up from their writing style; their sentence structure and vocabulary is unimpressive. Here is what I have been able to pick up: M is an Algerian. He has been an editor for just over one year. He doesn't usually contribute to articles himself; he mostly only reverts material that others have written. Lately, almost the entirety of his contributions to Misplaced Pages are to this one Talk page. His motivation is obvious: he cares about Muslims. A is an American. He is a botanist/biologist. He has been an editor for just over five years. He touches on an impressively wide variety of Misplaced Pages activities. His motivation is less obvious; although he exhibits the hallmarks of a typical troll—emanating immaturity and acting the schoolyard bully—it probably stems simply from a blinding determination to always be right. He cares about no one. Other people are all fools, he says. This person is probably a huge geek.
::I don't know about your stamina, but mine has exhausted. When the other person keeps saying "Nuh uh!", it's boring to repeatedly keep saying "Uh huh!" It's just not that important. What is important is that you yourself kept your head. You did not let lesser beings drag you down to their level. If you decide to walk away, you can know, as I have verified, that you would walk away with your dignity (and sanity) intact.
::I have been in your position. Some were pretty difficult. Once, it was me against four others. They all "owned" the article, a BLP, and banded together to ensure the article of their hero was censored. I wanted to add some truth that had occurred in the subject's life, but they prevented it at all costs. A year later, I was able to add the information.
::''Cartoonists Who Changed The World'' is wonderful. I must admit, even though the book arrived, for some reason I did not open it until a few hours ago. It is ''all comics''! Reading it now. ] (]) 07:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
::: I've done that. I bought an ebook version of Brian Evenson's ''Ed Vs. Yummy Fur'', and I've barely touched it to finish off '']''—one of the first articles I put serious effort into, and it's still quite far from finished. Meanwhile, I've spent the last week on anything but (not just the ''Charlie Hebdo'' stuff—I just put up '']'' for GAN, and I think I'm close to doing the same for ]). It's a weird form of procrastination—I'm not actually putting off editing.
::: Frustrating situation. I know I can't report it because tehre are FormerIPs waiting in the wings to obscure things. I'm going to leave it until someone closes the RfC. There's no way an admin will close ''against'' (though they may rule "no consensus"). ]&nbsp;] 07:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: Ugh—maybe the Spiegelman article's not as close as I thought. I was just trying to clean up the references and a few other things, but now that I've taken a quick look at the prose, it's gonna need a pretty thorough copyediting. It's almost all my prose, but it's as if somebody else wrote it. ]&nbsp;] 08:12, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


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::Thanks for replying. I'm looking for the whole translation of the interview (3 pages), but if I understand as you react that it seems to be a big work for you, the page 2 where the sound progammers talking about they work , should be best interresting part to me.. Google translation and ohers are undrinkable. So, Page 2 if you can ? if you can't i understand, of course.
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Hey Turkey, can you provide an audio sample about some track of the album? I don't know the procedure, but I think the article would benefit since we don't have any illustrations from this period about the band. And about the music analysis of the title track, you think ] would be more appropriate for these information?--] (]) 14:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
* I can do an audio sample, but do you have a suggestion for what would be a good one? As for the adding info---which info did you think was better for the adding article? ]&nbsp;] 19:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC) : Hmmm ... I actually enjoy doing translations, but the citations on these don't appear to meet the standards that the Egnlish Misplaced Pages require. If I find the time, maybe I'll look more closely and see what I can do ... ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
** I've thrown in an audio file. If it's not what you had in mind, I can easily whip up something else. ]&nbsp;] 20:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC) :: I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? ]: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Silly me, I haven't noticed we've got audio of that track. I'll contact you if I have something particular on mind. By the way, how's the article shaping? I still have some words to add, but so far, how does it look?--] (]) 22:13, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per ], they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::::<s>We didn't have the audio file; I just uploaded it. Give it a listen and let me know if you'd rather have it done differently.</s>
::::: Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --] 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::::: Oh, sorry, now I understand—there was already a file. ]&nbsp;] 00:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
::::::I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so ''before'' a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said ] can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
::::The article certainly looks closer to comprehensive. When you're through with it, I think the lead will need a re-write to reflect what's in the body. The one thing that really sticks out at this point is it's still missing what I would consider sufficient background on both the band and thrash metal. ]&nbsp;] 23:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::::I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --] 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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==Japanese honorifics==
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==Rikidōzan==
Hi Curly. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated at ] will appear on the Main Page soon. I had to squeeze the text down to a little over 1200 characters; was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? - Dank (]) 21:37, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Please, can you edit one of these photos about Katsushi Murata, his murderer, in the paragraph "Death": (), , (). Thank you. --] 17:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
* I don't see anything important that's missing, but "Having its origin in the German Expressionist movement, the typically socialist work" almost sounds like it was typically socialist due to its German Expressionist origins. I don't think the "German Expressionism" bit is important enough to keep if you wanted to drop it. ]&nbsp;] 23:08, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
: I can add the first one, because it was published by an organization more than 50 years ago. The other two photos are still under copyright, though. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 22:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
**Good point, done. - Dank (]) 23:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:: Thank you, but can you edit also the journal article which is in that same site? There is also ], if you can help me. --] 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


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== Harvey Kurtzman ==

Curly Turkey, do you own a copy of the book: Mike Edison (2011) ''Dirty! Dirty! Dirty!'' (which I see you once used as a reference in Harvey Kurtzman's ''Goodman Beaver'') and if so, can you please consult it for references to Kurtzman's ''Little Annie Fanny''? The book is not available online. Thanks. ] (]) 00:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
* Hmmm&nbsp;... I definitely don't have it, and I don't even remember it—though obviously I was the one who added it, since I'm the one who created the page. I wonder how I got that page reference&nbsp;... maybe it was accessible on Google Books at the time, but they've since removed that access? Sorry! ]&nbsp;] 00:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
**Okay, thanks anyway. It's not at any of my usual local libraries either. Maybe it's not be the kind of title that appeals to librarians. I don't really much need it anyway; I believe my sourcing is now complete for that article. BTW, I scanned and wish I could show you portions of large panel Elder drew for ''Annie''{{'s}} 20th birthday party showing Kurtzman and Elder acting up in the corner, and with Hef in the middle saying "More nudity!" (and his executive editor turning around and saying, "More nudity!"). ] (]) 01:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
*** Is there no forum where you could post it, maybe? I get the feeling that Dark Horse will be reprinting those ''Annie'' books. I don't have a source saying so out loud, but it looks like the plan is to reprint the three Kurtzman books that Kitchen Sink did in the '80s (''Goodman Beaver'', ''Hey Look!'', and ''Jungle Book''), and since they already have the rights to ''Annie'' (and Kitchen was involved with those), I'd be surprised if they didn't follow up with deluxe new ''Annie'' editions. ]&nbsp;] 01:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I believe '']'' is done for now and ready to get in line at GAN. I'm interested to hear your comments. I'm very proud to have contributed to the Harvey Kurtzman comics universe. ] (]) 00:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* It'll be a nice addition. One thing, though: I don't think the ] image contributes anything to the article that you can't get from the other two images of her, so it may fail the threshold of what constitutes Fair Use; on top of that, it's causing sandwiching with the infobox. I'd drop it. ]&nbsp;] 01:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
** Thanks! And as for the image, I was afraid of that; I apparently knew that already. But that leaves a big blank spot though. What is this sandwiching? I don't see it; must not have the same browser or something as you. ] (]) 03:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
*** Sandwiching is where text flows between two images. It can be problematic on small screens. ]&nbsp;] 03:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
**** Ah, big screens you mean. When I maximize and increase resolution I see it. ] (]) 03:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
***** Well, it ''happens'' more often on big screens, but it's usually only a ''problem'' on small screens, where, if it happens, it can make the text hard to read. ]&nbsp;] 03:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the usual copy editing, it always helps to have a second pair of eyes. As for , a quote won't go over well in a caption? Oh and I meant to ask earlier, about the first line in ; I like to start my section with a pleasant introduction of some sort before getting right into it; is there really a problem with this sentence; perhaps it just needs to be rewritten instead of removed, and if so what would you suggest? ] (]) 13:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::I see what you mean; another caption in this article has a quote, but it is attributed in that caption. This one is attributed in the article body, and I had assumed that was enough. ] (]) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
: As to the first one: unattributed quotations are always a no-no. In this case, I don't think it's a good quote, anyways: it's someone's subjective opinion, but comes across as a statement of fact. It's the kind of quote that's appropriate in the context of a section that puts it in context along with other opinions, but singling it out like that gives it undue weight.
:As to the second one, it's the kind of thing you'd commonly see in, say, magazine writing, but isn't really appropriate in an encyclopaedia—it's saying in many words what can be said in few. It's one thing to prefer a "zest"-y (but factual) wording to a flat one, but it's another thing to append "zest" to the text (even if factual). The sentence doesn't add any information to the article as the facts it contains are implied but what follows. It's not the kind of thing that would kill the article's chances at GA, but it's the kind of thing you'll find copyeditors nuking. ]&nbsp;] 14:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::I appreciate that explanation. I do try, after valiantly trying to achieve every requirement for encyclopedic writing, to take it one step further within limits and try to bring some sort of feeling to my writing, especially in the first and last sentence of a paragraph or section. I have succeeded at this in the past but I have also missed the mark, as you can see. Perhaps I will try to add some sort of introductory sentence later and run the sentence by you. I really do appreciate that feedback. ] (]) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::: A rule of thumb is: if you can cut out a word without losing readability, then you probably should. Encyclopaedic writing doesn't really lend itself to much "zest", so I'm proud of myself when I can sneak in the odd ], but that's not really what encyclopaedic writing is about: it's about getting information across to readers succintly and clearly. The twists in the writing can't be at the expense of succintness and clarity. ]&nbsp;] 17:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
What a valiant effort you have attempted with the ] article. I can think of no one better to bring such an intimidatingly large subject to GA and then probably FA. Good luck with it. ] (]) 16:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
* I'd love to see that at FA, but I'm not sure. It was a particularly difficult article to put together, because all the sources are garbage. Well, not all, but the ones that aren't garbage are limited in scope (Gabilliet's is rigorous and excellent—but only comprehensive as a historical perspective on American comics). Comics "scholarship" is an embarrassment—there are still comics "scholars" who claim straightfacedly that comics is an American invention. I feel like actually producing an FA-quality article on the subject would amount to borderline OR—because the "reliable sources" simply aren't reliable. ]&nbsp;] 17:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

*], the image of Hefner is going into the references section. That's likely to cause trouble in reviews. Have you considered using a crop of that image, and the {{t|Multiple image}} template?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 22:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::I am happy to crop it; thank-you ] for the suggestion. I assume you mean a head shot cropped from the original, positioned so as not to interfere with he references section, uploaded into Commons as a new filename, referring in the new description to the original image. I didn't know that an image shouldn't interfere with the references section or that it would be called out in a review. Now, as for the Multiple image template, no, I haven't ever tried it but I'm sure I could, and how would it help here? ] (]) 22:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::*You could have Hefner and Kurtzman side-by-side, which would mean no white space issues, and you wouldn't have to lose one of the images. The issue with images near the references section is the amount of whitespace it leaves; rather unattractive. I don't think we actually have codified any policies or guidelines about it (] is a help page), but if you can avoid it, why not?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

For collectors only:
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:: Gotta grab a copy of the third one, just to find out what hunk off-page caught the attention of that boy. ]&nbsp;] 05:18, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
The redhead. Also fun:
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==c/e on Tomislav Kezarovski==
Hey Turkey, I need some copyediting help of yours on ]. Judgind by your "Je sius Charlie" tag on the top, you'll be interested in this one. Kezarovski is the only imprisoned journalist in Europe for a published article in a magazine (ironically, he is from my country).--] (]) 00:53, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
* I can give it a ce, but the sourcing has serious issues that need to be dealt with. ]&nbsp;] 01:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::I'll provide sources, not a problem. If the English ones don't cover the entire case, I can use the Macedonian, which are overflowing with information. And thanks for the help, it's really appreciated.--] (]) 01:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::: I saw a mix of DMY and MDY dates—I settled on DMY, but feel free to change it if you think MDY is more appropriate. ]&nbsp;] 01:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:::: I'm done. The prose really wasn't too bad, but's it's a pretty unbalanced article—it's about virtually nothing but the arrest rather than the man himself. Hopefully you can flesh it out. ]&nbsp;] 01:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
::::: ]: Ooh—I'm not sure that cartoon will be found acceptable under the fair use rules. ]&nbsp;] 21:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:The thing is, I can not credit the author because he is unknown, but whoever he is, I don't think he would mind using his work. I forgot to mention in the article, but that painting was a "gift" for the government, and kind of symbolizes the demonstrations.--] (]) 22:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:: I can guarantee you that kind of thing will not go over well—not only is it a legal issue, but the cartoon isn't even mentioned in the article, so it would not qualify as Fair Use. ]&nbsp;] 23:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Removed. On the positive side, his punishment was abolished. Now we wait the English-language media to report it, so we can update the article.--] (]) 11:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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* Well, I didn't create it or add any content—just did some minor copyediting—but if someone wants to throw some credit my way, I'll eat it up. {{smiley|wink}} ]&nbsp;] 22:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hey Curly, I'm finally getting down to working on the article for ]. Were/are you still able to talk to your neighbor about obtaining a clip for demonstrative purposes? ]] 16:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
* Oh, I totally forgot about that—rather, I thought I'd run into the guy and that would jog my memory, but I never did run into him. I'll have to get on it. Even if I can't get one of him, I imagine I should be able to get one somewhere. There's a shop that sells shamisens etc not far from where I work, for example (and actually, that might be a better place to ask...). Keep on my case and you'll get your video. ]&nbsp;] 22:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
*:That's fine, thanks for the update. We've both been busy with other stuff. I'll send a reminder your way in a week or so. ]] 04:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

* ]: Hey, sorry, I still haven't done this—next week, though, I'll be having a slow week both in terms of work and school, so I should have no excuse to put it off then. ]&nbsp;] 23:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Two grammar questions ==

Curly Turkey (and anyone else who is talk page stalking), here are two grammar questions. Like you, I'm pretty good at grammar, but I am wondering about these; I haven't found the answers yet, only a gut feeling. Do you know?
# Do we need the word "that" for this sentence, and is there a rule? "The person stated the thing was something" or "The person stated that the thing was something"
#* In the case of "stated" and "said", if the object is a ''direct quotation'', then you cannot use "that":
#*: Robert said, "It's only lines on paper, folks!"
#* If it's otherwise paraphrased, then "that" is prepended to it, although English being English, the "that" may be only implied:
#*: Robert said it was only lines on paper. ]&nbsp;] 20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#:::Regarding your first bullet above: I tried to choose a sentence that would allow you to focus on what I was asking (Do I insert the word "that", or not?) and failed completely, as you thought that I was asking about MOS:QUOTE, which is way off the subject. Here is my question again; which of the two is correct: "He showed us the ring he purchased" or "He showed us the ring ''that'' he purchased"? Here it is again, which of the two is correct: "She decided he was right" or "She decided ''that'' he was right"? My gut feeling is the latter is correct in both cases. What do you think? Perhaps both the former and the latter are correct in both cases because the former is simply implying the word "that"; perhaps grammar rules allow either. Is this what you were trying to say in your second bullet above? If they're both correct, I'm just going to always insert the "that" as my gut tells me doing so is more acurate. ] (]) 23:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#::::: Sorry, I thought I'd made it clear: a ''direct quotation'' is the ''direct object'' of "said" or "stated", in which case you ''cannot'' use "that". In the other examples you've given, ''both'' are correct, but the ones with "that" are "more correct"—the "that" can be dropped but ''is implied''. So the sentences should be read as "He showed us the ring he purchased" and "She decided he was right". You can drop the word "that" in these cases ''but'' it remains ghost-like in the sentence. It's a peculiar feature of English. Do you speak Spanish or French? It's easier to understand if you do (those are languages in which you ''cannot'' drop the "that", so examples in those languages make it clear in English where a "that" has been dropped and where there was no "that" in the first place). ]&nbsp;] 23:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#::::::(I have known for a long time that we can't mess with quotations and I was never asking anything about them.) Thanks! I understand now, you have answered my question about the "that", actually, you confirmed that I was restating your explanation correctly, that both cases are correct, but that using the word "that" is more correct. Thanks again; I have been copy editing other editor's work lately and this kept coming up (they kept leaving the "that" out) and I knew you would have this knowledge. Yes, I did learn both of those languages in school at one point but I don't get to practice them any more, and hadn't thought about using their (more straightforward) grammar to try to answer my original question; you're right, that also helps, thanks. (My wife speaks fairly fluent French, I'm not that good.) ] (]) 23:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#:::::::: When I was talking about direct quotations, I meant it from a grammatical perspective rather than a MoS one. Maybe I was misunderstanding you: I keep seeing ''"So-and-so said that 'I think it sucks'"'' kind of writing, which is grammatically wrong (and grates against my ears). ]&nbsp;] 00:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
# Where does the "only" and the "still" go in these sentences, and is there a rule? "The thing was only noticed when" or "The thing was noticed only when". The other one: "He still was not suspected of doing the thing" or "He was still not suspected of doing the thing"
#* In the first example, I feel like "only" should go before "when" —if you drop "when" you get "The thing was only noticed" . You're not trying to emphasize the ''mere''-ness of the noticing, but that it happened "only when" . This is a very subtle thing in most cases, and of course in coversation both sentences will be parsed the same way by most listeners.
#* In the second example, I don't think it matters. I can think of ways you could ''intend'' its placement to have a different nuance, but I think such shades of nuance almost certainly would not be picked up by even a careful reader. ]&nbsp;] 20:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#:::Please bear with me: I have inserted some additional explanation in brackets directly into to your statement on the first example in order to attempt to clarify what you are saying. Did I get it right? And I understand what you are saying in your statement on the second example. That helps; thanks! ] (]) 23:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#:::: The simple answer is "yes". I don't think it's so much a "right vs wrong" thing as much as a "more right" kind of thing. "The thing was only noticed when" and "The thing was noticed only when" will be parsed identically in conversation, so it really comes down to hairsplitting (as a ''writer'' you should be prepared to split such hairs, though). ]&nbsp;] 23:22, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
#::::::Thank-you for confirming that. This was one that I really struggled with and didn't really have a gut feeling about which case was "right", but I see now: simply try to isolate the phrase as you did, e.g. "only when", and it became clearer. ] (]) 23:48, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

== Strange Stories question ==

Hi -- since you did the GA review for ], would you mind commenting at ]? A user has removed some cited information on the grounds that it's POV; I'd appreciate a third opinion. Thanks. ] (] - ] - ]) 22:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
: I saw that. It definitely should not be removed from the body (it's quoted, attributed, and cited), but it's perhaps inappropriate for the image caption (]—as it's the only image in the article, it draws undue attention to the craptacularity of the covers). ]&nbsp;] 23:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

==Providing sample==
Hey Turkey, can you upload ]? Chose yourself which portion best fits the prose from the draft and the article.--] (]) 23:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
: Okay, but give me a couple of days. I'll have to do it when everyone's out of the house—all my FLACs are on the family desktop, and nobody but me will tolerate thrash in the house. {{smiley|wink}} ]&nbsp;] 23:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

== Debito Arudou ==

On the AfD you have put "Oppose", but aren't these supposed to be either "Keep" or "Delete"? I think your meaning is obvious, but well, just pointing it out... ] (]) 14:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
* Whoever closes it it supposed to read through the comments and decide on a consensus and ''not'' count !votes, so it shouldn't matter. Doubly, it won't matter as the nomination is obvious trolling and will be closed regardless because of it. I'll try to stick to proper protocol in the future. ]&nbsp;] 14:52, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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== '''''Talk page stalkers:''''' Haruna Yukawa ==

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Can someone ''please'' correct ] where it calls him{{efn|Him, her, call Yukawa what ever you want—he was born male and "bacame" female after slicing his own manhood off in a failed suicide attempt.}} an "aid worker"—Yukawa was ''nothing like'' and "aid worker", and none of the four sources claim he was: he was war-obsessed and was trying to set up a ''private military contracting company''. That's actually in the sources, so you don't have to track anything down to fix it. Thanks in advance! ]&nbsp;] 03:29, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
* Thanks, ], for doing this. One thing: I don't think he was a "self-proclaimed" military contractor—my understanding was that he was pursuing setting up such a business— words it: "Haruna Yukawa, 42, was seized by militants in August after going to Syria to set up a private military contracting company, according to reports." ]&nbsp;] 06:08, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Wave! ==

Since I'm not likely to be able to find your place this time, I'm waving now. (Still intent on getting that sushi). On a less Facebook-y note, I've got a crazy idea. '']''. FA. Thoughts?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:20, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
* Well, that was quite the vacation! Funny, I just got my hands on ''Graveyard'', and still haven't gotten around to watching it (well, my wife insists I've seen it before, because it's always on TV, but I don't remember it). It'd be easy to source, I imagine. ]&nbsp;] 12:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
**Wouldn't be surprised if it is... though they didn't have any Ghibli films on the flight. I'd have watched those. Greetings from Narita, where the sun is in my eyes and the saleclerks are giving me prices in dollars even though I'm paying in yen.
::If you're interested, I think Dr. Blofeld would want to take part as well. The three of us would probably be able to handle that article well... I think.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:34, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
::*The themes part would be interesting: the common Western interpretation that the film is anti-war, vs. what the director apparently intended (a condemnation of 1980s Japanese youth culture which didn't recognize or value the sacrifices made by those in the war)&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:38, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
::** Well, I imagine such an article would require less of the Japanese sources (I imagine the ''otaku'' community has documented the film fairly well in English), so how about I let you (and the Doctor?) work your magic on it first, and then I'll trawl through the libraries here to find anything interesting to add. It's probably not ideal to add stuff from Japanese sources that may already be available in English. ]&nbsp;] 09:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Blu-Ray is evil ==

I don't really watch many movies, so not buying a Blu-Ray player was not decision that kept me up at night. What initially clinched it with me was the Region Codes—something that drove me nuts about DVDs: I'd buy a DVD in Canada of , say, ''The Wizard of Oz'', and find I couldn't play it on a Japanese player. Why? I spent actual money on the player. I spent actual money on the disc. I wasn't about to pay even higher prices to be put through that horeshit with Blu-Ray.

Well, my son was on TV a little while back. The station was nice enough to send us a burned disc of the spot (about five minutes). YOu've probably guessed they sent a a Blu-Ray disc. So, under orders from The Boss, I bought us a DVD drive for the desktop. We've had ] on the desktop since 2007 (I've got ] on my laptop). The Blu-Ray people aren't much into Linux—there are workarounds to get Blu-Ray to work, but none of them worked for me this weekend. There used to be (32-bit only) PowerDVD for Ubuntu, but that seems to have disappeared (yes, I would have paid for it). Nothing worked for me. I was about to reinstall Vista (still have the disc that came with the desktop—haven't even dualbooted since 2007, though), only to find out that Microsoft doesn't actually support Blu-Ray—you still have to buy separate software just to run Blu-Ray discs?!? I mean, Jesus Christ, Blu-Ray people—no wonder everyone just downloads!

I mean, I'm not even talking about commercial Blu-Ray discs here. I can't even use the drive to burn a data Blu-Ray disc to backup my photos. A drive that I paid hard money for onto a disc I paid hard money for to store photos I took with a camera I paid hard money for! YOU HAVE MY MONEY, BLU-RAY PEOPLE! '''I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON IT!''' ]&nbsp;] 23:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
:It is evil; I have had to purchase that software for my computer also. Get a used ] (that machine is our family Blu-Ray player). Then you guys can play the subject of my new GA article '']''. ] (]) 05:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
:: I'm trying to figure out the gameplay---is it a ''Resident Evil'' kind of thing? ]&nbsp;] 09:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
::: No, it doesn't have violence or horror or require much skill or eye-hand coordination; it's more of a thriller; think of it as a game "The Boss" would enjoy, as mine truly did. It's actually like watching a touching and exciting movie as you tilt the controller stick and cause the main character to go through the plot that is all pre-arranged for you. Hardcore gamers hated it because it wasn't a skill-based sport like ''Resident Evil'', ''Grand Theft Auto'', or ''Call of Duty'' (I have no interest in those). The gameplay is fully described, I sure hope that section communicates to the reader. We actually bought our PlayStation 3 just for that one game (we don't play much but knew that game was right up our alley). The machines are inexpensive, now that a newer model has come out, and so is that game at this late stage. When we occasionally rent a Blu-Ray we watch it from there. BTW, congrats to your son for being on TV. ] (]) 13:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: I guess I wasn't quite believing what I was reading. So&nbsp;... it's a "game" with no actual "game" in it? The TV spot was nothing really special—just a human-interest piece that was broadcast in the middle of the night on ice hockey in Shizuoka. To put that in perspective: Shizuoka is sub-tropical, and it only really snows in the mountains. The boy only appears in the background a few times, but still, we wanted to send a copy to my parents (on DVD—they haven't been roped into this Blu-Ray scam yet). ]&nbsp;] 05:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
::::: You sound like all the hardcore gamers. (Who sort of have a point.) No, it's a game, and really fun to play. Well, we liked it and so did millions of others. Here is something poignant that the creator said: ] You just reminded me that my son was on TV when he was 3 years old when we lived in Canada. ] (]) 22:11, 5 February 2015 (UTC).
:::::: You lived in Canada! Whereabouts? I'm a Southern Ontarian who spent a couple years in Alberta. What was your boy on TV for? ]&nbsp;] 22:23, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::: Not only did we live there, but after being around and loving so many Canadian people, I developed a lifelong tremendous respect for Canada. Whenever I meet someone from Canada nowadays, my estimation of them automatically goes up. Even Canadian traffic is polite. We lived in beautiful ], where the ocean meets the mountains meets the forest meets the city, from 1996–1999. I would love to see your part of Canada; "Canada's New York", I heard. I can't even remember why he was on now. I just remember my wife went out and got an agent for him and headshots of him (seriously); which of course never led to anything. ] (]) 22:38, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

== I never liked you ==

"more valiant" this time, congrats! Should it go to the Main page soon? --] (]) 21:59, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
* Thanks! If someone were to propose it for the main page, I wouldn't oppose, but I've already got a few lined up for this year—] will be there 10 February, and '']'' and '']'' will be proposed later in the year. ]&nbsp;] 22:05, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
::* I made a note ], --] (]) 22:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
::** I suppose it's an "anniversary year" of sorts, since the bok took place in 1975. ]&nbsp;] 22:22, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
::***"''Departures'' will be proposed later this year..." Ah, so I guess you've noticed my note for the ].&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
::**** I did. Hopefully the festival will be mentioned in ''On this day...'' that day. ]&nbsp;] 08:22, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

==Gooseberry==
Hiya, Curly. I saw that the second sentence was cited, but not the one with the date. Secondarily, what with Don Markstein's passing, the Toonopedia website has sometimes gone down for weeks at a time, and it's may only be a matter of time before it's gone for good, so I've been archiving as many pages as I can before they're lost for good. (The Wayback Machine can't archive them; only Webcitation.org can). There are already so many ELs in that article, I figured it made sense to add it as a cite to the character here (since there's no separate article for it).

Pepso2 and Darkwarriorblake have helped with the archiving &mdash; there's a list of what we've saved so far . But few of them have been integrated into articles since we've been concentrating on the archiving part. There's information in Toonopedia that appears virtually nowhere else on the Web, and in some cases barely in books! With regards, --] (]) 04:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
: ]: Is it really okay to archive those pages? Markstein was pretty militantly against it. ]&nbsp;] 04:58, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

::First I've heard of that. And it's a larger issue than his personal desires &mdash; that's like an author trying to forbid libraries from preserving or loaning out his or her books. --] (]) 05:01, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::: ]: Check out his One reason archive.org won't archive it is because he's set up the site so it won't be archived. ]&nbsp;] 05:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: {{tps}} If there is a way to archive a few pages from his remarkable work I think human knowledge needs us to do so, his wishes be damned. I hadn't tried to archive the one page I cited; I didn't think it would work. If our articles depend on his information then I think we should try to preserve it. His family has barely remembers to pay the web bill each year, for one thing. ] (]) 05:16, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::::: The issue with that is this thing called the legal system... ]&nbsp;] 05:19, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::There's no law against a nonprofit organization archiving web pages, any more than there are laws against libraries archiving books. There's a big article in last week's ''New Yorker'' about the Wayback Machine that covers a lot of this ground in pretty good layman's terms.--] (]) 05:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Okay, I'm just making sure, given how militant Markstein was about it. ]&nbsp;] 05:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I'm thinking his intention was just to rightly protect the copyright of his work from plagiarists, not from us. The poor guy; I was reading about his final days after his stroke when he woke up in the hospital and learned he was not going to be able to continue his work. I'm sure he had planned to work indefinitely. Rest in peace, Don. Thanks to you, ], for doing this archival work. ] (]) 19:51, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

==''Puppets'' and stuff==
Hey Turkey, when you have the audio, can you insert ] and add it to the article? Some ideas on what might be added to the lead would be appreciated (wherever you prefer–here or at the article's talk). Have a nice day.--] (]) 10:05, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
: Okay, I've uploaded it and added it to the article. I'll leave the captioning up to you. ]&nbsp;] 22:05, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

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== BWV 22 ==

I restored to a version before your edit (instead of one even earlier which missed many improvements), sorry. Standard - it's not only one. The English translation is only a translation, not a title itself. Happy listening ;) --] (]) 22:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
: {{ping|Gerda Arendt}} Of course there were more than one, but it's a matter of grammar: in ''"The cantata shows elements which became standards"'' we're talking about ''standard elements''—"standard" is an adjective here, and can't be pluralized. "Standard" as a pluralizable noun would refer to standard ''works'', not elements—it would imply these ''elements'' have themselves become standard ''works''. ]&nbsp;] 23:21, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

:: Learning, - but I don't see an adjective yet (nor did any of the other FA reviewers). Is there a different word? Models? --] (]) 23:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
::: Perhaps something like "The cantata displays what were to become standard elements"? ]&nbsp;] 23:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

:::: go ahead, - too tired to do anything useful ;) --] (]) 23:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

... tired again, but tell you - before going to bed - that ] is precious again ;) --] (]) 00:05, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
* Well, thanks! Gute Nacht! ]&nbsp;] 00:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
** Oh! You're talking about the TFA. I'd forgotten that was today, until all of a sudden there was a pile of edits to it. ]&nbsp;] 01:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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== The hospital ==

Hi. I saw your edit summary comment regarding the use of "in the hospital" in the ] article. That difference in American English was new to me, so apologies if I changed it unnecessarily. To British English readers, the wording will be confusing, as "the" implies that the hospital was mentioned or described earlier in the text, and, as it wasn't, the reader will be left wondering "Eh? What hospital?" Anyway, I learned something new today, so thanks. --] (]) 04:54, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
: {{user|DAJF}} I know, it's one of those more irritating ENGVAR differences. The only reason I knew the BrEng wording was from watching endless Britcoms when I was a kid—"in hospital" sounds like broken English to the vast majority of NAmEng speakers. It's probably best in most cases to avoid it by using a different wording ("hospitalized" or whatever fits the case). ]&nbsp;] 06:45, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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==Adam Blitz==

Sir, I am not very familiar with editing on Misplaced Pages. I have removed the photo which I agree broke the flow of the text. Thank you for pointing this out. May I ask you to please use a bold font for the Aftermath edit. I am simply trying to add some context to the Aftermath section as it is not evident from the article that the Porte de Vincennes shootings and hostage crisis a) occurred in Ile de France as the subsection suggest and b) there is no causation in the article. Clearly the hostage crisis and subsequent killings at the Hypercacher supermarket were related to Charlie Hebdo. May I please ask for your assistance with what I believe is a simple edit? Thank you. Feel free to email me at adam.blitzATcolumnist.com AB

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*Wow, you must be a sucker for punishment. Good job!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:02, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
** Well, I can see a lot of ways the article can be improved yet, but I don't think I'll ever take this to FAC—the sources are too problematic. ]&nbsp;] 00:42, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

== Stats busted? ==

Some kinda prank? ---and ] was TFA for the 10th. Grr&nbsp;... ]&nbsp;] 05:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
:I saw that. It was broken during the appearance on the main page (DYK) of an article I improved too. It was broken on the 4th, through the 7th–10th, and is broken now. The classic tool is just a broken. Nothing wrong with Misplaced Pages's web server page counts (). ] maintains the tool but does not normally answer messages on their Talk page. Aarg. ] (]) 14:30, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
:::I wonder why the WMF doesn't provide its own tools, instead of linking to a private user's tool nobody can access. ]&nbsp;] 21:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: Stats are back. ] got 21,667 hits. Much better than I expected. ]&nbsp;] 23:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yay. Thanks for the heads up and nice job on those stats. My DYK article got 4x the number of usual hits. The TFA today (only a few more minutes) is of (mostly) Midnightblueowl and also myself; those status should be available soon. What a day it was; I had to tell one guy ]. ] (]) 23:30, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::: I can sympathize with him. Quite likely there's some source somewhere (likely in French) that gives this sort of context, but it can't just be grafted onto the article like that (and the wording veers into POV territory, but I wasn't about to say that to him—he's likely to misinterpret it as me implying there are two sides to the story or something). ]&nbsp;] 23:53, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

== Your deletion of RS material ==

Why are you deleting RS material? For example, that the attackers shot scores of bullets in the Copenhagen shooting? You've now deleted that twice. Without an appropriate reason. Please don't. --] (]) 03:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
* What are you talking about? The article still mentions that police reported up to 200 bullets were fired. What do you seriously think your "scores of bullets" adds to the article? Do you seriously not understand what the word "spray" means? This writing is ''garbage''. ]&nbsp;] 03:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


===Verbal diarrhea===

You're not seriously going to start an edit war over garbage writing like are you? This kind of writing is incompetent. You are adding ''words'' without adding ''information''. Please revert. ]&nbsp;] 03:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
:You have now repeatedly deleted RS-supported information. As mentioned on your talkpage. Without any appropriate reason. I will ask you to stop. Plus, of course the "seminar" was not shot at, but the people in attendance. Feel free to bring your assertion that it is better writing to say the "seminar" was shot at than the people in it to the talk page of the article -- the same with your deletion of RS-supported material, such as that they were sprayed with scores of bullets ... that is information. --] (]) 03:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::I have done no such thing. The number of bullets the police reported is still in the article, and "spray" implies "scores of bullets". Your writing is ''redundant''. Why are you not understanding this? ]&nbsp;] 03:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::: What do you think a "seminar" is? ''It's people''! There's no such thing as a seminar without people! ]&nbsp;] 03:43, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

::::Why are you not understanding that you -- now twice -- insisted that the "seminar" was sprayed with bullets ... rather than the people in it ... and for some unknown reason think that is superior English? A seminar is not the same as the people attending a seminar -- it is a class or a meeting, not the people attending the seminar.
::::And this is where we talk about the shooting -- so this is where we should talk about what the shooting consisted of ... meaning how many bullets were fired. If someone added similar information elsewhere, feel free to move it here, where it belongs and where it is already RS-supported and in existence. ] (]) 03:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::::# Please provide a credible example of an English sentence in which one could open fire on a seminar ''and not target people''.
::::# Demosntrate a single example of ''information that I have removed'' that is not elsewhere in the article.
::::# ''"If someone added similar information elsewhere, feel free to move it here, where it belongs and where it is already RS-supported and in existence."'': This is a non sequitur. The number is quoted ''where police gave it''. "Scores" is not a number, and is ''entirely'' redundant to "sprayed". It's like saying, ''"I kicked him in the head with my foot."'' ]&nbsp;] 04:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
* {{ping|Epeefleche}}, are you a native English speaker? ]&nbsp;] 04:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::You sign up for a seminar, you attend a seminar, and you shoot people attending a seminar.
:::::Yes. I am a native English speaker. But I have never heard of the word "Demosntrate" that you use above.
:::::"Scores" is a number. It means "" in English. There is a difference between saying you kicked him, and saying you kicked him "scores" of times. ] (]) 06:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::: ''"You sign up for a seminar, you attend a seminar, and you shoot people attending a seminar."'': I said : "Please provide a credible example of an English sentence in which one could open fire on a seminar ''and not target people''." This doesn't even remotely demonstrate such a thing.
:::::: ''"I have never heard of the word "Demosntrate"''—was this supposed to demonstrate a point, or simply your tendentiousness?
:::::: ''"Scores" is a number.'': No, "200" is a number, and it's in the article. Only "'''a''' score" is twenty—"scores" is merely the larger cousin of "several"—a non-number. Not that it matters in the least—it does not express an idea that is not already contained in "sprayed". ]&nbsp;] 06:27, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Responding to your last comment -- I'm uncertain why you have difficulty understanding that there is a substantive difference between "sprayed with bullets," and "sprayed with scores of bullets." The first example could contemplate, say ... 17 bullets. The second requires that there be at least 40. That's a material difference. ] (]) 19:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::: "Scores" can mean 40, or 39, or 43, or similar numbers hovering around 60, 80, 100, etc---it is a vague "number" just asare "several" and "dozens". "Sprayed" implies ''all'' of those numbers, and ththis is no less precise. "200" means "200". That's a ''number''. It's also in the article already. ]&nbsp;] 20:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::: Oh, you must be ''thrilled'' that some moron has now changed it to "several". Problem? Solved! ]&nbsp;] 20:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hello there, I believe I'm the "moron" in question. Just to let you know, the entire purpose of that particular edit was to correct the inaccuracy of describing the weapon used at the first shooting as an "automatic rifle", when there was nothing sourced to confirm that and when the audio from the attack pretty clearly refuted it. Subsequent edits removed my use of "several". No problem - I improved on the earlier text in one area; someone else improved on mine in another. Many edits since have changed that section substantially and it's even better now than it was before. I call that success, don't you? -- ] (]) 04:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::: {{ping|Hux}} I want to apologize—partly I was in a pissy mood, and partly I was reverse-projecting (in my mind, you must have been a "moron" to Epeefleche for such a wording. I couldn't have expressed that more poorly). I'll say I appreciate your improving the accuracy of the article.
::::::::::::: {{ping|Epeefleche}} Here, let's just admit to each otehr that we've been a couple of pissy bitches and call a truce. We both edited in good faith, and were each offended at the other for accusations otherwise. Deal? ]&nbsp;] 05:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I will now officiate the group hug. Points will be awarded for technique and sincerity. Begin! -- ] (]) 05:38, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
::::::::::::::: How many points for a ]&nbsp;] 07:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
*I dont think seminar is the right word here anyway, it was was public debate meeting. Pithy writing is good. Redundancy is redundant.] 04:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
** You're right—"seminar" wasn't the right word in the first place, but it was the word that was there when I began copyediting. I'll go change it. ]&nbsp;] 04:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
{{tps}} Let's remain calm here, people. If one is right, others will see it and will join in. Begin to lose composure and we begin to lose the battle. ] (]) 13:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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==Combining Paragraphs==
Plus -- your combining paragraphs was not helpful. Those are two separate events. There was no benefit to blurring matters by combining the paras. ] (]) 03:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
* I've explained my reasons for doing that. Please refute them rather than mindlessly revert. ]&nbsp;] 04:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
:*I haven't seen any valid reason for combining those two separate events into one paragraph. And I haven't reverted mindlessly. --] (]) 21:29, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

== Civility ==

Curly -- you may remember that when you were blocked recently, I was the editor who came to your defense. And suggested that your block be lifted early.

I'm surprised, especially given that, that your tone is as markedly uncivil and disrespectful as it has been. As one of many recent examples, you just now engaged in a personal attack, above in responding to me, by calling editor ] a "".

Civility is part of Misplaced Pages's ], and one of its ]. Treating others with respect is key to collaborating effectively.

Please be civil, assume good faith, and take to heart the Misplaced Pages policy of ].] (]) 21:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
* {{ping|Epeefleche}} If civility is your concern, then you'll immediately be retracting your repeated hostile accusastions of removing sourced information from the article, right? And apologize for sniping at a typo of mine? And for starting an editwar, and for ignoring my direct questions? ]&nbsp;] 23:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
::You are not taking to heart what I said.
::I pointed to you just now calling an editor a moron. You can cull through your own edits, as well as see the views of others expressed about them even these past 48 hours, to see the incivility I am referring to.
::You in reply have failed to focus on your incivility. You only sought to deflect. By turning the focus away from your incivility.
::If you continue down this course, especially since you are inclined to do it with ''the one editor who came to your defense when you were recently blocked'', it may prove problematic in the future. Blocks are meted out for incivility. I would urge you to reconsider your approach. Please take this as a gentle warning. Best. ] (]) 07:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Epeefleche}} Okay, you've made it clear you're here to pick a fight. I retract Now stay off my talk page. ]&nbsp;] 07:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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:It's not like it's going to go anywhere. But what happened to me? Ain't I co-OWENer? ]&nbsp;] 21:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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* {{ping|EdJohnston}} I won't be appealing, but I would like you to reconsider the lengths of the blocks, given that:
*# Andiar.Rohnds's reverts were far more numerous, and against more editors
*# Andiar.rohnds's edits are clear-cut POV-pushing against the established consensus, and were concealed under misleading edit summaries
* Out crimes are hardly equivalent by any measure, and I hope you don't want to give the impression they are. ]&nbsp;] 23:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
** Oh, and immediately following the block, an IP reinstated Andiar.rohnds's contentious edit. How much you wanna bet who that IP is? ]&nbsp;] 23:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
* {{ping|EdJohnston}} There are now at least three accounts continuing the edit war. Will something be done? ]&nbsp;] 01:04, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

*FWIW, Curly, the block lengths in these situations are usually only relative to your own block history. That this was your second block for edit warring on this article is likely what led EdJohnston to impose the 72-hour block. A third block for edit warring will likely be at least a week, and at some point, a request to have you topic banned from the article could follow. As to the nature of the edit war - if the other party has been adding POV or other misleading content, please take it to ANI if they won't discuss their changes, accept existing consensus or insist on edit warring. Getting yourself frustrated and blocked doesn't help either you or the project. Particularly since you are such an excellent content contributor. Cheers! ]] 20:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
** Well, Andiar.rohnds has been caught evading his block and had his block extended to a week, so whatever.<br /><nowiki><rant></nowiki>Any faith I had in ANI when I ] in which three groups were edit-warring against each other, involving perhaps a dozen editors. Some smartass who knew how to game the system convinced an admin not to bother even to look and that it was really a "Turkey-versus-the-world" situation, and then filibustered the thread so that nobody else would bother to look at it—with great success. A couple of other 3RR reports were ignored, and this one was looking like it was going to be ignored, too (some of the later reports had already been dealt with before this one closed). Let's just say my confidence in the system was (is) not high.<nowiki></rant></nowiki> ]&nbsp;] 22:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
***Yeah, the system does suck at times. Mostly, I just don't want to see you end up on a treadmill out of here. Not enough good Canadian content editors about! ]] 16:40, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
**** I'd '''thank''' your comment, but apparently a block prevents even such pleasantries. ]&nbsp;] 22:53, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

== Portrait of Mlle. Lange as Danae ==

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::I believe it involves the turkey there on the left. ;-) (Which is wearing a ring.) ] (]) 21:59, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
::: Ah! Forgive me I was—''ahem''—distracted by other details in the work. ]&nbsp;] 23:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
:::: Check out the one I hung at the bottom of my Talk page the other day. ] (]) 00:03, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
::::: All them nipples—NSFW! ]&nbsp;] 00:51, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

== like you ==

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This is potentially very bad: http://toonopedia.com/ shows up, but for the past day at least, none of the links go to any page. I hope it's only that the family just forgot to pay the ISP bill, and not that it's down for good &mdash; we've had such scares before. As a fellow fan of the site, I thought you'd want to know. Let's keep our fingers crossed for its return.... --] (]) 19:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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::I've been worried that would happen for a while. It's unfortunate, and it's one reason I've taken to preferring paper sources, which won't disappear. ]&nbsp;] 20:44, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

:::], you are a whiz, and you bring good news to all of us who use of the work of that late comics scholar. Thanks! (And continued kudos to Curly Turkey for all his good work.) --] (]) 22:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Not so much of a whiz that I can magically bring the site back up. Thankfully you, ], have archived the entire website. Curly Turkey is right of course, and I wish Don had published one last book. I have chatted with the site's web hosting company (who of course refused me) and I have written an email to the proxy service that hides the site owners; hopefully they will forward my message to them. Crossing fingers. ] (]) 23:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: I hope something comes from it. I have to wonder what the point of putting it up was if he's just going to let it die like that. ]&nbsp;] 23:08, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please, can you create ]? Thank you. --] 08:31, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


== So, that happened... ==
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Trump gave a about the imperial household and the ''Man'yōshū'' and Reiwa and Tabito and Okura. Pretty hilarious by itself to think that anyone would think it was Trump's own words coming out of his mouth. But what's even more interesting is that he ''didn't'' repeat the same "oldest poetry anthology" error that appears on Abe's English website and every English-language media outlet that has discussed the issue over the last few months (except the English version of the ''Mainichi''{{'}}s website). I guess someone on Trump's team checked English Misplaced Pages (specifically ) and noticed the mistake, and changed it to the extremely 意訳ish {{tq|''a collection of ancient Japanese poetry called the Man'yōshū''}}. The apostrophe and the macrons really look like someone checked English Misplaced Pages, unless the Trump White House includes someone with a grounding in the writings of ] and ], and the fact that "Japan's oldest " has been so ubiquitous as a translation of the phrase "日本最古の歌集" makes me really want to believe that Trump was told by Abe through an interpreter that the source of the name "Reiwa" is "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", Trump's speech was drafted to include that, and someone looked on Misplaced Pages during the drafting.
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Now, I wonder how the South Korean (and North Korean) governments will react to Trump having shoehorned in a reference to ] and ''not'' mentioning his being a likely immigrant from Paekche. That seems really like something someone on the Abe side got Trump to say and no one on the American side knew enough to see the problem. Then again, it's entirely possible I'm literally the only person to notice this who wasn't directly involved.
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] (<small>]]</small>) 15:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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: I sure wouldn't have noticed. I wanted to hear the speech to hear how Trump would trip over pronouncing ''Man'yōshū'', but all I could find is which cuts out before those sections (assuming he gave the whole speech). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 06:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
:: ] (<small>]]</small>) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
::: サンキュー Don't have to worry about the Koreans—he talks about "Yamanoue no Ok'''o'''ra", so nobody's gonna notice. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 08:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


== Not sure what to make of this ==
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I don't think I've ever conflicted with a user who was trying to set themselves up as a good-faith Wikipedian whose goals were in line with the project, who immediately after failing to get me site-banned posted a bunch of dog-whistles about "those sneaky Japs" on their user page. Obviously a lot of editors I've conflicted with have assumed I was secretly Japanese despite my relatively much better English than Japanese ability and the clear statement on my user page, but this is a step or two further, and those guys were usually using throwaway sock accounts to do that. ] (<small>]]</small>) 02:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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: Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
*I only count twenty.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 02:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
::Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of ] (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made ''before'' his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. ] (<small>]]</small>) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
** Twenty PNGs, twenty JPGs. ]&nbsp;] 04:29, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
*** Of course, it falls eighty short of a full set. ]&nbsp;] 04:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
****(Second one was my point; do they not have any more?)&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 05:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
***** They have more Yoshitoshi, but not from this series. ]&nbsp;] 05:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
****** Unless they're in the offline collection. ]&nbsp;] 05:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
*******That royally sucks.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 06:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


== HOUND ==
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*Drunk off the moon?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:09, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
** I'd've thought ] was a&nbsp;... ''tea totaller'' (ba-dump ''ching''). ]&nbsp;] 07:38, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
***Oh, why couldn't you leaf it be!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on ] would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or ] or ] agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out.
== Where the heck is Kurumazaka? ==


I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting , and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of ''him'' repeatedly accusing ''me'' of hounding?
Hi CT, how's things? I'm in the process of throwing ] up against the wall for GA assessment - I'm fairly happy with it, but one thing's bugging me - the Kurumazaka dojo. I understand this came orginally from the ja-wiki article, but I can't find any reference to a Tokyo suburb named Kurumazaka. I just wanted to check whether this could have been a mis-Romanization - there's a ] that seems to fit the bill (it was near the castle where he worked, and had a history as an entertainment district so his bar and theatre projects would not have been out of place). Could 神楽坂 be conceivabley mis-transliterated as "Kurumazaka", or am I barking up the wrong tree here? ]&nbsp;]] 13:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
* Nope, it was definitely 車坂, and a turns up quite a few hits, most of which relate to Skakakibara. According to the article for the former Shitaya Ward (]—no en.wp article) the former Kurumazaka, Kami-Kurumazaka, and Shimo-Kurumazaka are now merged into ] and Higashi-Ueno. I haven't had any luck finding the exact location, and it looks like ] moved it to ], so perhaps the Kurumazaka location hasn't been preserved. I'm sure there's a map somewhere, but I haven't had any luck. According to a blog, he opened the dojo in Kurumazaka in 1864, but I can't find a RS that confirms this ( on Google Books are only snippet views at best). ]&nbsp;] 20:14, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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== A pie for you! ==
: I don't know why you should post here about it ... but it did raise my eyebrows when I saw SR post that there. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:: Your ping for "CorbieV" should have been for ]. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
:::Well, I had posted there like a week ago with no word, but then I posted a description of one of the many incidents that inspired my view on the matter (the correct view, sanctioned by ArbCom, and pretty much everyone else who is not themselves a tendentious editor), pinged you, you commented, and suddenly SR became interested. Not sure if that was relevant, but you do have something of a history of agreeing with me when I accuse "the editors I was hounding" of in fact hounding me. (Emailing the diff, since that ''is'' something I'm "afraid to point out in public" because it would give the appearance of gravedancing.) ] (<small>]]</small>) 22:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


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== Malcolm X page ==
== Re: The Exaltation of the Flower ==


Hello,
Thanks for looking at ]. I think it's poor form to add a citation needed tag to an article waiting for a GAR, particularly regarding a statement that does not exactly require a citation, namely the uncontested historical fact that Pharsalos is known for the Battle of Pharsalus. It seems quite silly, in fact, for two reasons: a) it is easily supported at the given links, and b) the following sentence notes that the archaeologist in question was "involved in an official mission to collect objects related to Caesar's campaigns". Well, that pretty much proves the point, after all, Julius Caesar defeated Pompey during the Great Roman Civil War at the Battle of Pharsalus. But let's look at the statement:


I was wondering if you could insert this Malcolm X quote somewhere on his Misplaced Pages page
*The town of Farsala was once named Pharsalos, and was known for the Battle of Pharsalus.


"“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” ― Malcom X"
Is this any qualitatively different than saying


*New York was once named New Amsterdam, and was named after the Duke of York.


Here is the source. It's the second quote from the top. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search?q=%E2%80%9CThe+media%27s+the+most+powerful+entity+on+earth.+They+have+the+power+to+make+the+innocent+guilty+and+to+make+the+guilty+innocent%2C+and+that%27s+power.+Because+they+control+the+minds+of+the+masses.%E2%80%25
Would a serious citation be needed for any of these statements?


If you are seriously concerned, you could have made a note on the talk page, but it seems quite extreme to demand a citation for a self-evident historical fact already associated with the very reason the archaeologist found the work in the first place. This seems to be similar to a "is the sky really blue" request. Of course, if there is a reason to question or challenge this, then by all means, ask the question on the talk page. Finally, can you give me a link to a guideline that supports your claim that "images should be placed after a title, not right before it"? The image was deliberately placed before the title to float it across two different sections, per common practice for the purpose of layout. ] (]) 08:31, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
: {{ec}} Placing an image just before a title is a common practice? I'm totally unfamiliar with it, and I've got nearly 5000 pages on my Watchlist. ] states: "An image should generally be placed in the section of the article that is most relevant to the image."
::I don't know what to tell you, other than you are wrong. ] has notthing whatsoever to do with the floating placement of an image. It has to do with the relevance of an image to a particular section. Those are two different concepts, so I don't know how you could have confused the two. But let's play your game. Your edit, in fact, violated ], as it removed the image of Farsala from the relevant background section where it is discussed. You removed it from the relevant section and placed it in the next section, which doesn't discuss Farsala. I'm surprised it didn't occur to you that the reason editors float images like this is because a) there isn't enough space in the relevant section, and b) it improves layout to float them between, so that the image hangs from the relevant section into the next, without forcing it and cramping the layout or the image size. There is no guideline or policy that prevents or forbids "hanging" or "floating" an image between sections. None. ] (]) 09:11, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::: "Game"? You're accusing me of playing games? You've jumped remarkably quickly to accusations of bad faith. ]&nbsp;] 09:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Your "game" is that you claimed the image placement violated ]. However, it was your edit that violated that guideline. The image was previously (and correctly) placed in the relevant section. The fact that it floated into the next is perfectly acceptable. ] (]) 10:20, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: Do you seriously think you're making some sort of point with your bad faith accusations? What "game" are you trying to win, Viritidas? ]&nbsp;] 10:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


Thank you. ] (]) 16:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
: As for the {{tl|cn}}—sorry, but it's hardly a "sky is blue" sort of statement, and throwing a {{tld|cn}} on it is not "challenging" it ''per se''—it's a request for verification. It should be easy enough to source. Leaving it unsourced really is not going to fly. ]&nbsp;] 08:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
: In what context? And why ask me? ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
::I must disagree. It is a 100% "the sky is blue" statement. Once again: "The town of ] was once named Pharsalos, and was known for the ]." This is easily verified by visiting the links. I added a source just now, for absolutely no good reason, considering that the following sourced statement explains that the archaeologist in question was there because he was looking for "objects related to Caesar's campaigns". I wonder, what could these campaigns be? Could it be...the Battle of Pharsalus? Already sourced in the following sentence, again, and another source wasn't needed, hence the reason I took issue with your unnecessary tagging. Is this material likely to be challenged per V? ] (]) 09:14, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::: I don't know how an editor with your experience could think that could possibly be acceptable. "The sky is blue" doesn't require citation because the banal truth of that statement stares us in the face every day. The feats of long-dead people in faraway lands? Please take a moment to ponder that. ]&nbsp;] 09:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::On the contrary, nothing about the statement was challenged or likely to be challenged. You simply added a citation needed tag for no reason. Was the idea that Farsala was once named Pharsalos in dispute? Or that it was known for the Battle of Pharsalus? Nope. That was precisely the reason the archaeologist was cited for being in the area looking for relics. ] (]) 10:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: Keep telling yourself that. This GAN review is more aggravation than it's worth. ]&nbsp;] 10:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::You never started a review, nor did you give any indication you were reviewing it. You added a citation tag for no reason, and anyone who does that without starting a review could put the review in jeopardy. If you wanted to start a review in the first place, there's a proper way of doing that. Even if you had simply said, "I'm reviewing this article, please add a cite for this reason", then that's another thing. There's a lack of communication here, and it's not coming from me. I can't tell what you are doing by watching smoke signals. ] (]) 10:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::: Right, right, right—out of the 4 million+ articles on Misplaced Pages, I just randomly chose yours to copyedit. I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck about what you think is the "proper way" to do anything, given how little you understand about Misplaced Pages basics. ]&nbsp;] 10:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I understand just fine, and I'm allowed to disagree with you. It seems you aren't aware that many editors copyedit articles in the GAN queue without ever doing a review. Those who choose to do a review, OTOH, create the review page, which trips the bot flag and then notifies the nominator on their page. When this is done, the nominator then waits to comment. You seem to think this is unusual, but it's not. ] (]) 18:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::: I "seem to think" no more than you are entirely full of shit—and being a GAN is in ''no way'' an immunity from other editors touching ]. ]&nbsp;] 21:11, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


== Canadian Politics Proposed Decision - Postponed ==
: ''"'New York was once named New Amsterdam, and was named after the Duke of York.' Would a serious citation be needed for any of these statements?"'': absolutely. You simply couldn't get away without a citation for such. ]&nbsp;] 08:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::No, in fact, you wouldn't need a citation for any of that in an article ''outside'' of New York, because they are uncontested facts already sourced in their parent articles and aren't likely to be challenged by anyone. ] (]) 09:10, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::: That's ridiculous. Under no cicumstances could "it's sourced in another article" ever possibly fly. Such an assertion insults the intelligence. ]&nbsp;] 09:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::On the contrary, per ], the guiding policy on source requirements, there is nothing about any of these statements where their verifiability could be challenged. Are you challenging the notion that Farsala was once named Pharsalos, or that New York was once named New Amsterdam? ] (]) 10:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: Nice strawman. I already said I'm not challenging it, but it needs a citation. Seriously, what are you not comprehending? ]&nbsp;] 10:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::Why does it need a citation? For the record, I've already added one, but it didn't need one. The statement is common knowledge and easy to verify with inline links. If I say, "The ] began in 1789 and ended in 1799" in an article other than the French Revolution, do I need to source that statement? No, I do not. ] (]) 10:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::: Seriously, Viritidas, can you go troll someone else? I'm finished with you and your horsehit. ]&nbsp;] 10:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::::You accuse me of trolling yet you do . No wonder you have a problem. ] (]) 18:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::Trolling indeed when you Oh, this is rich! Not only does nobody buy your "sky is blue" horseshit, but the veracity of the statement itself is now being questioned! ]&nbsp;] 21:11, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


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== Re: Debido Arudou Page ==
Re: Debido page.
Sorry, I don't know if there's a specific Talk page for the Debido page.


== ] ==
Anyway, I did not remove any citations (or certainly did not mean to; if I did it was in error). I left the notice that the Onsen book was included in a library of recommended reading, for example. I did remove reviews that only discussed how 'good' or 'bad' the publication was; if 'bad reviews' are not relevant, than neither are good reviews, and in any event this isn't a marketing page responsible for selling his publications.
] (]) 10:03, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


Funny: the Poetry Foundation as a source came up in my Misplaced Pages class last week. Students were using it, and I explained that IMO their pages can be used to verify basic, factual information, but not statements like the one in the Rilke article (I'll use that as an example Monday). If the page listed an author, and if sources were provided, it might be a different thing--but saying "according to the Poetry Foundation..." will not do here, of course. We just need to cut that entire sentence, I think. Thanks, ] (]) 14:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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== Arbitration proposed decision posted ==
Thank you very much indeed for your comprehensive scrub and polish of the above. Much improved and much appreciated. And then I saw your equally comprehensive comments at FAC. Really excellent suggestions which I saw address as soon as possible. Regards. ] (]) 06:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
: Well, it's nice to be appreciated! Looking forward to seeing this get promoted soon. ]&nbsp;] 07:29, 16 March 2015 (UTC):
::Dear ], I'm hoping that we've now addressed the outstanding concerns re. the above. Would you kindly let me know on the FAC page if we haven't. In the event that there's nothing outstanding, your support would be very much appreciated. Regards. ] (]) 15:30, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Hi, me again. Have we addressed your outstanding concerns? ] (]) 14:23, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Really appreciate your '''Support''' for the article. Your comments and suggestions have greatly improved it. Many thanks indeed. ] (]) 21:40, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: No problem, but I have to say I was a little surprised that both of you came to my talk page asking if I was going to support. I don't care myself, but generally that kind of thing's frowned upon—I've seen the coordinators tell the nominators not to do that. ]&nbsp;] 21:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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==Nemesis of Neglect==
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How is Tenniel's cartoon - representing 'Crime' as a result of the socio-economic neglect of London's slums - pertinent to Priest's "The Ripper"? ] (]) 22:23, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
: The name of the file is ]. ]&nbsp;] 22:44, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
:: And the name of the original illustration is just "Nemesis of Neglect"; that some random user of Misplaced Pages has chosen to add the prefix "Jack-the-Ripper" is irrelevant. I'm not going to edit war over it, but its use strikes me as pretty lazy shorthand. ] (]) 22:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
::: Well, maybe the Museum of London will convince you: ]&nbsp;] 23:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
::: ]&nbsp;] 23:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
:::: The first link is another example of lazy thinking. The second link is correct: the cartoon ''was'' inspired by a letter to ''The Times'', which appeared on page 11 of the 18 September 1888 issue. The letter is a polemic against the urban, moral and social decay of the slums of London, eg "We have far too long been content to know that within a walk of palaces and mansions... there have existed tens of thousands of our fellow creatures begotten and reared in an atmosphere of godless brutality, a species of human sewage, the very drainage of the vilest production of ordinary vice; such sewage ever on the increase, and in its increase forever developing fresh depths of degradation..." The crimes of the slums - all crimes of the slums - the correspondent asserted, were "the means of affording to us a warning it will be at our extreme peril to neglect." Tenniel's cartoon is an allegory, not a picture of "The Ripper". ] (]) 23:53, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
::::: It's a long-established, well-recognized symbol of the Ripper. You won't find many books on Jack the Ripper than don't talk about the cartoon. ]&nbsp;] 01:30, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::: You're trying to make this political? ]&nbsp;] 01:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::"Political"? Say what? Clearly, this discussion has run its course. You seem unable to grasp Tenniel's use of personification of an abstract idea, and I can't be bothered trying to explain that any longer. Have a nice day. ] (]) 11:16, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


== Suitability of ] for FAC ==
== Name ==


Hi Curly Turkey. I brought ] to good article status a few months ago, and I am now considering nominating it for featured article status. Would you be willing to take a look over the article and give your opinion on how it would fare at FAC? Although you aren't listed at ], I wanted to ask you since you have brought several silent film articles to featured status. Thanks in advance. – ] (]) 21:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
"Curley Turkey" is that your gangsta name or just simply a euphemism for your penis? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
: I'm too modest to say, but I could let you have a ''gobble'' to find out. ]&nbsp;] 09:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC) : ]: It's not a subject I know much about, so I can't speak to its comprehensiveness. The writing seems fine—I made some very minor, mostly insubstantial edits that you can feel free to revert, but the quality of writing would not have been an issue at FAC. If it were me, I'd add some very brief contextualizing both the novel (publication and reputation?) and Bunny (birth, length and character of career?). ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 21:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks for reading through the article. A quick question re : Wouldn't the period remain inside the nested quotes to preserve the original quotation? I agree that some additional context may be helpful; the question is where to put it, however. Would material about Bunny's career fit in the production section? Would a sentence or two about the novel's publication details fit in the plot section? I'll put the article aside and re-evaluate its potential for expansion in a few weeks. I don't want to rush things since I haven't nominated a FA before. :) In any case, I'll probably reach out to one of the editors at ] for a more in-depth review before taking the plunge. – ] (]) 22:46, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::: No, we don't preserve outside house styles on Misplaced Pages. We would only do so if there were some significance to doing so (say, to compare stylings, or to demonstrate something).
::: As for where to put the context: you could have a short "Background" section, or, as you say, you could say something in the plot summary. Say, something along the lines of "''The Pickwick Papers'' appeared in 1836 and was Charles Dickens first novel; . The film adapts only three ...".
::: To be honest, unless a subject expert were to point out some gaping flaw or oversight, I wouldn't be surprised to see it promoted pretty much as is. There might be some technical details you could add—length and gauge of film? Is it known what cameras or other equipment was used? Filmic techniques or whatever?
::: Looking a bit more closely, I can see a brief history in th esecond endnote about previous ''Pickwick'' adaptations. YOu could move that into a background section—start with the novel's publication and legacy, move onto film adaptations, and conclude with a capsule history of Bunny's career. Maybe two brief paragraphs. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 23:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::::A separate background section seems like the way to go. I didn't think there was enough material for one when I was first writing the article, but if I include more info on Bunny's career, as you suggest, a stand-alone section would fit effectively into the structure of the article. One paragraph on Bunny and his earlier work with Vitagraph, plus a paragraph on Dickens's original novel and its earlier film adaptations, would definitely make the article easier to understand for readers unfamiliar with the subject. This would also resolve the issue of having such a bulky footnote on previous adaptations of ''Pickwick''.{{paragraph break}}I feel confident about the article's comprehensiveness. Gill cites one article (from the ''Chatham News'' if I'm remembering correctly) that I wasn't able to track down with an interlibrary loan request. Other than that, I've tracked down all the cross-references from the sources I've cited. Unless I've missed something major in my research, our article is the most comprehensive account of ''The Pickwick Papers'' yet written.{{paragraph break}}Regarding the technical details you asked about, the British Film Institute that the film gauge is 35mm and that the length is 2079 ft. (The BFI only has two out of the three reels, however; we could extrapolate that the full length is ~3,000 ft., but that would be original research.) Sources appear to be silent on the equipment and filmic techniques employed in the film's production. The sources that go into the most detail about production—the two ''Moving Picture World'' articles by Hoffman—focus more on Bunny and the crew (e.g., their attempt to borrow a historic cab from the British Museum) rather than the technical details of filming. The best I could tell you in this regard is that the crew consisted of ], the director, and one camera operator. – ] (]) 01:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::: Before I comment further, I just want to reiterate that, despite the number of film FAs I've produced, I'm not a film buff, and have relied on reviewers to spot technical and contextual issues. I don't know how necessary, useful, or helpful the tech information is, but it seems to be a popular thing to include when available. If you include it, I'd word it something like "the copies in the BFINA are 2079 ft". We don't know th elength of the other reel, so leave it to the reader to speculate. Unless you have a source explicitly stating so, we don't know if the 2079 ft is even the full length: '']'', for instance, is missing at least one sequence, which was discovered only because of the discovery of unicorporated "cels"—if they hadn't been discovered, you would never guess anything was missing.
::::: Or, you could just leave it out, unless a reviewer requests it. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: Red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 04:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I'm late in replying, but I just want to thank you for taking time to look over the article even though you were going through a contentious on-wiki disagreement. I appreciate your feedback, which has helped clarify my thinking on how to improve the article. – ] (]) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::I don't know if you care at this point, but just to follow up to the above: I think I'll leave out the technical information on the film reels for now. Simply specifying the number of reels (and that one of them is a split reel) should be enough for most readers. If another reviewer thinks the technical info is valuable, it'll be easy to add. – ] (]) 21:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)


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== Tower House == == Railroaded ==


Curly,
There's two remaining points I gather you wanted addressed? Are you planning on supporting once fixed?♦ ] 11:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
I hope you read this, IMHO, you got railroaded by the arbs, I mean , in one section they say:
: Please, this page is is for discussing my penis, and I'd appreciate it if you'd keep on topic.
: ... but seriously, yes, one of the points was an error on my behalf, but the other (the footnote) really needs to be dealt with. Other than that I'm ready to support. ]&nbsp;] 21:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Ew. I've reworded and removed the quote. Is that OK?♦ ] 14:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


<b>Edit warring: cite check
==Norodom Chakrapong==


3) On April 12, Curly Turkey added a {cite check} template to the article and began 'scrubbing' the page for sourcing problems he perceived on the page. Over the following days, he edit warred with multiple other editors to keep the template on the page; it was removed for the final time by J. Johnson on April 17. During the edit war, Curly Turkey refused multiple requests on the talk page to explain the issues he was seeing with the sourcing (timeline by J. Johnson).
Hi, I have replied to your suggestions and concerns at ]'s GAN. Feel free to take a look and see if it maybe passed or merits further improvements. Apologies for the delay in replying. ] (]) 14:14, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
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Huh? you explained in ''detail'' on the ''talk page'' what the problem was. Are they actually reading the talk page itself ?!?!


In another section they state:
:: Hi again, I have addressed and replied to the small number suggestions that you have posted on Chakrapong's GAN. At this stage I believe that it maybe cleared for promotion? :) Let me know if there still are additional issues to be addressed. You may do a review of ] if you wish, but please bear with me and don't close/fail the review as yet if I can't get back to you very quickly. Thanks and cheers! ] (]) 12:56, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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WTF?!?!?! Sources ''are'' black or white, what's that bullshit? If the source says something and it's realiable, it can be used. If the source ''doesn't'' say something, we can't pretend that it does. They're flat out wrong!!
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I think you got railroaded ala Fram and think you should appeal to a higher level than the arbs and get this reversed! ] (]) 13:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
== Toyoharu ==


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Hi, Curly. I looked for「八ヶ夕」 and 「六ヶ跡」on the web, but couldn't find anything. Purely as a guess, I would say やつがゆう and むつがせき, but I guess it's actually "don't know".


Hey Curly Turkey, I just saw that you are done for now. Yeah, me too; I have dropped way off. Too dramatic here. I still check in and make occasional edits sometimes, so I hope you do too. See you around. —]]<span style="color:red">♥</span> 04:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
One thing I noticed in the ] article is that the captions for two of the pictures in the Four Arts gallery seem to be switched. The one labeled Painting shows them Playing Go, and vice versa. –&nbsp;] (]) 02:48, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
: Whoops! I think I reordered them when I noticed I had them out of order, but forget to moved the captions with them.
: Those are the readings I figured, but I couldn't confirm it on the web or in any of my dictionaries. Educated guesses with kanji always seem to come back to bite me. I just wanted to include a list of Toyoharu's series that I found in 浮世絵芸術. ]&nbsp;] 04:10, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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::: Well, wasn't that stupid. I'll request a name change. ]&nbsp;] 05:41, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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{{u|Curly Turkey}}, I know that you have been retired—I haven't been very active myself lately. But, I should start doing more here again. I thought I'd ask for your advice if you wouldn't mind. I know that you had advised me awhile back to seek FA on a shorter article, first, before I try to tackle something as large and difficult as the Garage rock article. I was thinking that ] article might be a good place to start. It is currently GA. I was wondering if you think it has good prospects for FA and, if so, what improvements it would need to get there.
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Also, I want to thank you for all of the generous help you gave me. It meant so much. I am aware that you had some issues that prompted your decision to retire—this can be a very frustrating place sometimes. But, I also want to thank you for all you have done here. I can guarantee that your significant contributions are deeply appreciated by many and that you are greatly missed. ] (]) 04:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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: Deleted ''twice''. What humourless bitches. ]&nbsp;] 23:38, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hello Curly Turkey. Would you be agreeable to deleting ]? The reason I ask is that the "template" isn't used for anything real, and where it is used, it's causing lint errors including ] and ]. It hasn't been worked on in eight years. Can we either fix the lint errors or delete it? —] (]) 22:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Ukiyo-e ==
Happy Easter! I'd never seen ]'s work before, but I like it. ]&nbsp;] 21:28, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
::You didn't? quite nice, aren't they? ] (]) 00:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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:** What are Asterix and Obelix laughing about? ]&nbsp;] 09:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
*You know, back home usually we'd have a turkey or ham for Easter... &nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::* Something that is happening ] here. ] (]) 10:24, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


Heya - saw your edits over at ]. I wanted to let you know, as the editor who originally added those {{tl|transl}} tags, it's never been my objective to be "sloppy"; before I added them to the article, I think a number of instances of the word "ukiyo-e" had been italicised, and in the interests of caution, I made the decision to place all instances of the word in language tags.
::* {{U|Crisco 1492}} - did you ever tried ] ]? ] (]) 10:24, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:::*Not yet. My stomach says "do it" but my veins scream "no!"&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:33, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::::* The only thing I understand I love you ...every day. ] (]) 10:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::*I used to teach junior high school in Indonesia. I've listened to more than enough K-Pop.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::::::{{ec}}*Om, gosh. You are brave. ] (]) 10:44, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


I ought to have checked a dictionary to see if the word had become loanword enough not to need a language tag, and I'm sorry I got it wrong. However, I try my best to improve Misplaced Pages articles - including their ], and I try my best to raise awareness of this with other editors, as well. Rather than careless italicisation - and I myself have run into some instances of that recently, like reference tags with italics around them - I wanted to make it at least clear that I had the goal of accessibility in mind, and hedged my bets, if this makes sense.


:::::** K-Pop: J-Pop with abs. ]&nbsp;] 10:40, 6 April 2015 (UTC) I apologise; I'll be more cautious in the future. --] (]) 10:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
:::::*** (And a shit-ton of plastic surgery.) ]&nbsp;] 10:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::****]&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:43, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::***** Unfortunately it doesn't feature their abs. ]&nbsp;] 12:07, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::::{{ec}}{{ec}} {{ec}}{{ec}} Show me them, J-Pops. ] (]) 10:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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Is it this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3KFgTlOD0 ] (]) 10:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
: And But mostly ] and a whole whack of pretty-boy bands. ]&nbsp;] 11:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:: Half the girls in Japan are in some kind of AKB spinoff band. I'm surprised there were enough left over to make up a Momoiro Clover Z. ]&nbsp;] 11:44, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::*Yeah, but then they ran out, so they had to create ] digitally.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 11:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::** I'm so glad there's a Japan outside of Akihabara. ]&nbsp;] 12:00, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
::*** My kids aren't into any of that stuff though. Instead they're into (not normally in English). ]&nbsp;] 12:03, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


:As for the {{tl|Nihongo}} tags in the main body of the text - I'm pretty sure I added most of those in as well. Again, my goal wasn't to "clutter up" or "invade" the main body of the text, nor to "undo others' hard work" - it was merely bringing it in line with a number of other Japanese culture articles I've edited, wherein transliterated terms, their kanji and their translation are kept as one within the text within a single template.
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== Giant Baba and Rikidozan ==
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I'm very sorry to ask you this, but can you translate from Japanese to English the six pages on this site about 's childhood. They're about his early life and I've search much to find them. You can write all in my talk page. Moreover, there are also more information about Rikidozan's family and early life that nobody had translate yet: , , . Thank you very much. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:22, 18 March 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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I seem to be unable to explain something that seems simple to me, about the translation of the closing hymn, and I don't want to try a third time in the nom. I translated the stanza above the poem, did you see? Later - on your request - I added the poetic translation which, however, has a different meaning. --] (]) 22:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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: Well, if the issue is that it has a different meaning, then perhaps it should be left out. ]&nbsp;] 22:52, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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:: I tried specifically to compare 3 items which are translated differently, but have the problem that I don't know grammatical terms well enough ;) - repeating one item: "lehr uns" is "may teach us", not "teaches us" (which would be "lehrt uns"), --] (]) 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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::: Is "lehr" in the subjunctive? I don't know how the subjunctive works in German, but perhaps it could translate to "That the Holy Spirit ... teach us"? ]&nbsp;] 23:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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:::: What I mean, I don't know what "subjunctive" is, and I would not have known the subjunctive of teach. If it is what I think it is, the translation is good! ("lehr" is poetically short for "lehre") Anyway: it's something that is not yet true but hoped and prayed for to become true, - like ]. --] (]) 06:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
== Nomination for deletion of ] ==
::::: Okay, I've been misunderstanding all along. I thought the translation was yours, and that you were worried if you'd done it right. I notice the source you cite (and a bunch of others I can see online) use "lehrt uns" rather than "lehr uns". You might want to change it to one that uses "lehr uns". ]&nbsp;] 07:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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:::::: It has "lehr uns"—''and'' another English translation: "His Word, His Baptism, His Supper / Serve to protect us from all disaster; / May the Holy Spirit teach us / To rely upon this in faith". I think the "May ... teach us" translation gets across what you were saying. ]&nbsp;] 07:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


== Books & Bytes – Issue 57 ==
::::::: Thank you. I never looked at the German, knowing the song from memory! - Yes, will use what you found. Hymn writer and song will get an article soon, modelled after ], --] (]) 08:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
::::::: In case you have time, I just noticed that prose issues were found in ], sad story, on the Main page and yesterday made GA, - I have a ], also don't feel like the ideal person to fix English prose ;) --] (]) 08:36, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::::: I did a quick ce, but what prose issues are you talking about? I don't see anything obvious on the talk page. ]&nbsp;] 09:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
::::::::: Thank you! Issues were added to the GA review today, which is transcluded to the talk. - Congrats to your latest FA, - what a title! (], spares me to repeat all the deaths) --] (]) 13:08, 11 April 2015 (UTC)


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*Assuming that someone deletes your talkpast post deliberately instead of through an edit conflict is a pretty serious act of bad faith CT. And calling someones extended arguments that you are too lazy too read "posturing" makes any further intent at communication futile.] · ] 14:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
** You've demonstrated your bad faith about as clearly as you could have, Maunus: you know perfectly well I've read through the article, so how else is one to interpret your claims that I haven't? The ferociousness of your opposition even to allowing discussion of suggested changes to the article is beyond all comprehension. ]&nbsp;] 20:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:::You have now refactored my comments twice. Once reinserting a comment that I had made and then removed because I didnt wish to engage you further, and now removing a comment of mine that you didnt like. Don't do that. You have no right to do that. I deleted your comment originally by mistake in an editconflict, you are clearly doing it on purpose. I also have had no bad faith against you until recently, I was merely extremely upset at your total lack of respect for other peoples work and expertise, and your arrogance in arguing for severe cuttings of content that cost me and several other editors a month of hard work, without having even tried to understand why we wrote the article the way we did. Yes, I was offended and insulted by your arrogance and lack of respect. Yes I reacted badly because I am in a burnout phase. But you did absolutely nothing at any point to de-escalate the conflict. To the contrary you systematically responded only to the irritated tone and never to the substantial arguments I made. You are just as much a "troll" as I am in this case. So get of that high horse as the civil and offended innocent editor. If you want to engage seriously and substantially with arguments on how to actually improve the article while showing respect for other people's work and expertise I will be more than willing to lay aside this anger that I have towards you right now. ] (]) 02:40, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
:::: Oh, get off it—the "conflict" has been entirely one-sided. Your response to the mere ''idea'' of reducing th elength of the article has been nothing but contempt and hostility, and the comment I reverted is pure trolling by any definition of the word. ]&nbsp;] 03:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::::As will be obvious to anyone who reads this exchange it is you are the asshole who trolled a GA review with contempt arrogance and hostility and you got served in kind.] (]) 14:50, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::::: Yes, dear. ]&nbsp;] 19:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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== Bazy? ==

Say, you offered a helpful drive-by suggestion on the ] FAC? I have three supports now, but I think I need five (?) Care to pop over and offer an eval on the FAC? (If you have something pending, I'd be glad to reciprocate). ]<sup>]</sup> 20:58, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
* If you needed five, I think only one of my FAs would ever have passed! There's no set number (it's up to the discretion of the coordinators), but the rule of thumb is three, so you should be fine. Not blowing you off, but I actually have things to do this weekend, and I've only been coming to WP when I need a break (and even then, more often than I should). ]&nbsp;] 21:38, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
**You and me both. Montana, if it's been stalled for a bit, it's probably because you're missing something. I don't see a media review.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 04:18, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
***I pinged Nikkimaria today, is she the only person doing image reviews? Curly Turkey, thanks for your review, I answered your questions, probably fixed about half and had questions on the others - though the same question for several. ]<sup>]</sup> 02:14, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
**** No, there are plenty of people who do image reviews—I've done some, and Crisco there seems to do them pretty frequently (he knows a thing or two about images). ]&nbsp;] 02:20, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
*****Indeed, I do. Right now I'm out of town and I wouldn't trust this connection with image reviews... rather too slow. When I get back, however.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:33, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
****** Nikkimaria's already gotten to it, so no worries. ]&nbsp;] 08:51, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
*******Great. Prepping for my seminar tomorrow after a day of getting sunburned. I look like ].&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:26, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
********Thanks guys! ]<sup>]</sup> 06:01, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
{{od}}Back atcha, I have three of the four and a pretty good argument for the other. And your point is well-taken with a good link for my own review. Not that I agree 100%, but 75% ain't bad for the likes of me! :-D ]<sup>]</sup> 04:29, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Curly, your name has been invoked <s>(hopefully in error)</s> as a supporter of the {{tl|ill}} template in FACs ... you'll get an idea of my opinion from the discussion. Any thoughts? - Dank (]) 14:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
*I'm the one who mentioned you; said that you'd gotten several FAC promoted with the ill template (] and '']'' were on my mind) in defense of allowing one in the nominated article.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 15:21, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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* Well, you just made the kids' Christmas! Congrats on the shiny new star! ]&nbsp;] 08:27, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

== ] ==

I'm sure a bot is going to come by and repeat everything I say, but in a far dryer fashion. I've reviewed this article for GA, and found so many problems that it might take you three whole minutes to resolve. Once you relieve yourself of this burden, I will be happy to pass the article. Cheers! ]] 00:30, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
* It must be a CanLit day—I notice you put '']'' up for GAN. Just goes to say Canadians need pictures to get through their books, eh? ]&nbsp;] 08:29, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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== Comic ==

Can you tell me the relation of ] and ], --] (]) 09:05, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
* The first is a series, and the second is a book. They're both "comics", so the dab is unhelpful—I moved ] to ], and redirected ] to ]. ]&nbsp;] 10:33, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

:: Thank you, - I asked you because you moved from novel to comics ;) --] (]) 10:44, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
::: Ah! I guess I didn't realize the other article was there. "(comics)" is supposed to be the default dab, so an article shouldn't be at "(graphic novel)" or whatever unless it needs further disambiguation (which it does in this case). ]&nbsp;] 10:49, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
:::: I see, - how would you word a hatnote ("the other article is there") which seems good for both? --] (]) 10:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
::::: Instead of that, I linked to the other article in the body. The book was mentioned in the series article, but wasn't linked. ]&nbsp;] 10:55, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::: Good idea. I miss ], ]? --] (]) 12:09, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for ] (did I hear my Gertie name?) - ], --] (]) 14:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

== Drop it ==

These endless back and forth is weakening you argument. Let's get the discussion back on tract. ] (]) 09:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
* So leave it the fuck alone? Nobody's forcing you to continue. ]&nbsp;] 09:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
::* I offered to truncate this meaningless discussion. If you insist on continuing, I will also. You have repeatedly called me a liar based on twisting my words and faulty logic. Of course I will defend myself. ] (]) 09:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
::* (ec) You will be far more likely to persuade others of the merit of your arguments if you follow the ] and in particular ''Try not to be confrontational. Be friendly and ], and ] of other editors' actions''. ] (]) 09:46, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
:::: You "offered" no more than to "allow" me to let your lies stand. If you want to end it, end it---which will require an end to your lies. Notice how ''none of the other deprecators'' are having these issues? This is because they don't resort to lying and gaming the system the way you do. ]&nbsp;] 09:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
::::: Some of posts may have not as clear as they could have been, but in no cases have I ever lied. Again, please assume good faith and please be civil. ] (]) 09:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
* This has nothing to do with clarity. I assumed good faith with your first misleading post, and removed it as an error. Reverting the removal ''after'' becoming aware of it was the first clear act of bad faith. Refusing to allow the clearly inappropriate discussion to be collapsed---''twice''---the next. Aggressively continuing the discussion issue the collapse made it clear you were going to pursue your bad faith to the bitter end. Your lies at cite sign about points that were supposedly "dismissed" (and were empirically ''were not'') were icing on the cake. ]&nbsp;] 10:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
:* This has everything to do with clarity. Your accusations that I lied are based on overly literal interpretations. Furthermore it is very clear that I am assuming good faith and your are not. In the example that you raised above, all I said was "yup" and then in my next post I apologized when I said {{tq|Sorry, I thought you were opening parallel threads}}. Please assume ].
:* The comment was by far the most aggravating because it was false. Repeating what I state before, my question was originally asked at the central discussion on , asked again ] on , and then you finally answered on .
:* I have already demonstrated good faith for apologized for the error I made. Now it is time for you to demonstrate good faith and apologize for your error. ] (]) 10:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
:* {{tq|I assumed good faith with your first misleading post, and removed it as an error}} – Even if it contained an error, it is never acceptable to edit, much less delete someone else's comments on a talk page unless they are libelous or threatening. My post was neither. It was a simple mistake. The proper way to handle a simple mistake is to politely point it out, not to delete it. ] (]) 13:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
:* I again collapsed the extended discussions on ] ‎because they contain borderline libelous accusations (i.e., dubious claims of lying). If even if these claims were true, how do they further your position? These extended discussions have become unnecessarily contentious, distracting and will drive away other editors. Please also note that in both cases, I let you have the "last uncollapsed word". We need to keep the discussion on a higher level. ] (]) 13:17, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
:** I asked you politely on your talk page to remove your misleading comment from the inappropriate location. Not only did you refuse, you dug in your heels, reverted attempts twice to collapse it, and continued with your aggressive filibustering outside the collapse. That is not the behaviour pof someone acting in good faith. Where I've accused you of lying stands---it is not a matter of interpretation, it is a clear-cut demonstrable lie. ]&nbsp;] 13:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

== Dave Sim's ''Judenhass'' (2008) now in the Public Domain ==

I can't say I got anything out of '']''–lightweight yet heavy-handed, and really not in the least insightful. On top of that, we have the greatest letterer who ever lived resorting to ugly digital fonts—I thought Sim hated computers?!? Art Spiegelman —and I don't think it's professional jealousy. This thing gave me headaches, but I made myself read through it a second time after Sim announced he was putting it in the Public Domain.

The art is in Sim's "new" photorealistic style, which I don't hate but neither do I like. The text is very Sim—a manneristic style I admired when I was fourteen, but which has long since come to grate against my mind's ears. The book makes more sense as a document of Sim's self-isolating worldview than anything else, although that's not likely obvious if you haven't read much Sim.

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*Did he have the JPGs up too? If we had a bit more resolution, this would make a good FPC nom.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
** No, he's put them up for download in .cbz and a .pdf, and these are from the .cbz. If I had a paper copy I might scan them, although Sim has kept religiously to printing on ugly grey newsprint, long after the rest of the industry has switched to decent paper. (I sold off most of my Sim floppies years ago—I only kept a few things that haven't been reprinted, and an issue of ''Cerebus'' that I had a letter printed in) ]&nbsp;] 08:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
*** Although, now that I think of it, there are probably torrents or other downloads out there that would now be legal and might be higher-res. Scanned off crappy paper, of course. ]&nbsp;] 08:15, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
** Wait a second—what do you mean by "the JPGs"? Aren't these JPGs? ]&nbsp;] 08:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
***The JPGs from which he made the PDF/CBZ. Guess not; all I got from the CBZ was the same file you uploaded. I'm uploading the PDF, though.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 08:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
**** I get the feeling that Sim's the kind of guy who might donate higher-res scans if asked. I don't think I'm the right guy to ask, though, as I just finished slagging the work. Factoid: he announced long ago that he's donating his entire ''œuvre'' to the public domain upon his death. ]&nbsp;] 10:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
*****He apparently only accepts correspondence through snail mail.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 10:58, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
****** Ah, that's right, and if you want to correspond with him you have to sign his petition saying you believe he's not a misogynist first. Chester Brown refused to sign it, so Sim broke off their friendship. ]&nbsp;] 11:07, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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I replied implicitly to your recent edit and question posed in Edit summary . I thought you had a good point as to scale in the intro but that you'd overdone the cut a bit. I'm open to adjustments or dialogue or -- hopefully congenial -- contest.

With a brief glimpse of your page intro here you may also be interested in my first, earlier-today edit to the page. Again I'm open to exchange.

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: ]: There are a number of issues with the reference to the film. Ondaatje was a household name in Canada before the film came out—I was assigned ''The English Patient'' in high school (circa 1993–94?). Placing the mention of the film there makes it seem as if his claim to fame is the film. It's not. On top of that is the ] wording "award-winning", which is not an appropriate description on Misplaced Pages. It is not an ''award-winning'' film; it is a film that ''won an award'', and the award-winning is both tangential and irrelevant to ''Ondaatje''{{`}}s article—at least in the first paragraph of the lead, which should be about ''his'' achievements—which is, after all, what readers are looking for when they type "Michael Ondaatje" into the search box. As it is now, almost ''half'' of the lead is now dominated by ''that film''.
: I don't have any issue with your other changes. ]&nbsp;] 22:19, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
:: You didn't reassess scale ''per se'' in intro (it was down to less that a quarter, my rough est.) but I took out the offending phrase (while I think/work maybe further on your excoriation of it at least) and do appreciate your attention/further background. As to fame-claim, 'the writer whose book became The English Patient' is certainly for many in the world the beginning and end of ''potential'' author-awareness, I'd maybe say. And that's 'not that bad'; 'better than many'; et c. While Wiki is not out of course to pander to the limited-exposure Hollywood-or-wherever-only encyclopedia readership solely, I also feel it's worth not turning our back on that readership completely (as you did in your wholesale cut); in the interests of inclusivity and outreach. Cheers. 14:37.

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Why are people attempting to thwart my attempts to flood the Main Page with child porn? ]&nbsp;] 00:37, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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** It's two characters: 福入 ''fuku-iri''—loosely "let luck in". ]&nbsp;] 11:16, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
*** I just realized that "my" meant you actually took it. Why are you wasting such marketable skills on Misplaced Pages? ]&nbsp;] 11:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
****Need to get a portfolio ready {{p|wink}}. Though I must say, if I do finish a doctorate, it would be funny to have a photographer with a Ph.D. in literature.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 12:04, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
***** That'd look some impressive on your business card! ]&nbsp;] 20:12, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
******Dr. Crisco, the Photographer. Erm... maybe?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:49, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
******* Dr. Crisco, the Literate Photographer. You'd occupy a niche. ''*ducks*'' ]&nbsp;] 00:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
******** what my boy—with his ever-so-refined tastes—has been reading lately: '']''. ]&nbsp;] 01:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
*********That is one unhappy daruma doll.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
********** I've noticed you keep bouncing back and forth between signatures these days. Having an identity crisis? ]&nbsp;] 02:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
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When I was reviewing your FAC '']'', I kept noticing "Archived from the original..." in the refs. Would you be kind to an old buffer and explain the mechanics of this? Despite my senescence I understand ''why'' you do it, but the ''how'' is a bit more elusive. A short tutorial would be most gratefully received, here or on my talk page or wherever you might be kind enough to deliver it. Best, '''<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; font-size:1.05em;">]]</span>''' 15:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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* Have you seen ] or ]? I see other editors promoting WebCite more often, but I prefer the Wayback Machine because (a) it's way easier (and doesn't require registration); and (b) it often already has an archive of the page you want (often multiple). ]&nbsp;] 16:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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** Keep in mind, though, that there are websites that disallow archiving: you have to check that the page has actually been archived. Sometimes the "archived" page is a restricted access message. ]&nbsp;] 16:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
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== Hu Zhengyan ==

Thanks for your suggestions at ]. I've implemented them - if you have any more improvements to suggest, please feel free! ]&nbsp;]] 11:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
* Hey, I've been meaning to get around to this. Ping me again if I don't. ]&nbsp;] 03:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
::Since I'm passing through anyway, consider yourself pinged. ]&nbsp;]] 13:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
::: I'll have a bunch of free time this afternoon, so hopefully I'll remember I've been pinged. ]&nbsp;] 22:24, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: Sorry, we had unexpected visitors this afternoon. I'll get to it, but it may be a day or two before I do. ]&nbsp;] 09:20, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
::::: Okay, I found the time at breakfast this morning. ]&nbsp;] 22:10, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::You are very awesome, thank you so much. I've now dealt with pretty much all of the issues you raised. Much obliged! ]&nbsp;]] 11:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

== "Ukiyo-e painting" ==

Hi Curly,<br/>
] in ''sensu stricto'' is "] painting painting". Being a gnome of long standing, I've looked around for some re-directs that reflect the redundancy. And have found... bupkis. <br/>
That will not stop me from calling an ] an "ATM machine", despite the redundant redundancy.--] (]) 13:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
*WC closet.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 13:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
::It's a ]... ]&nbsp;]] 13:37, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
* Well, if it's a redundancy, you'll have to blame the Japanese, because the translation is of '']''. Just to split that hair a little finer, though: I know your dictionary lists "painting" as a valid translation of ''e'' (because it's how you ''would'' translate, say, ''Mone no e'' "Monet's painting"), but it really just means "non-photographic picture" (""Monet's picture"). And I just realized the Japanese '']'' page links to '']''—a term which could technically be used with non-ukiyo-e painting, but in practice isn't. For some reason the Japanese page explains it using English terms ("painting", "print") even though they're all Japanese terms for a Japanese artform&nbsp;... To make things more confusing, the translate ''kaiga'' as "painting", and then link to the '']'' page, which opens with a children's crayon drawing. ]&nbsp;] 22:23, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
* At this point I think it's the right thing to do to ] {{ping|DoRD}} (the renamed ]) renamed as {{ping|DoRD}} because that's the right thing to do. {{smiley}} Shirt58 aka --] (]) 09:39, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
** And ] includes the text "For other uses, see Other uses (disambiguation)". What the actual fuck is going on these what the actual fuck recursively redundant recursive redundancies? {{smiley}} Shirt58 aka --] aka --] (]) 12:07, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
*** You should probably stay away from the first story in ]'s '']''. ]&nbsp;] 13:39, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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== Huge shakeup in the world of Tintin ==

Hi Curly Turkey, hope you are well. Interesting news about the ] (''Moulinsart'') came out yesterday. Read the section "Rights issue" in that article. This is bad news for Nick and Fanny Rodwell (whom the Tintin community has never much liked). I will keep watching for further developments. Cheers. ] (]) 20:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
* Hmmm. Dramatic. I'm not sure it's good news, unless you just hate Nick and Danny Rodwell. I was hoping he'd signed over the copyrights, in which case we'd start seeing ''Tintin'' books coming into the public domain sooner, but it looks like it's only the publishing rights. ]&nbsp;] 21:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
** Reading more about it, I guess it's Moulinsart's litigiousness that's the issue, in which case it is good news. ]&nbsp;] 21:29, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Ha, everyone hates Nick Rodwell. There's much I could tell you, but not much that could be written in a neutral voice. Yes, this is gleeful ] news. ] (]) 21:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: Sounds a lot like the situations with the Joyce and Tolkien estates. ]&nbsp;] 22:50, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
::::: The interesting part is that something new actually happened in l'monde de Tintin. Being a Tintin fan makes me essentially a history buff. I'm just wondering who that anonymous Tintin expert is ... ] (]) 00:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::: He's currently hiding from the Moulinsart drones. ]&nbsp;] 00:50, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::: Or in the Tintin bibliographies ... ] (]) 01:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::: Probably. ]&nbsp;] 02:28, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hey Turkey, how are you? The reason I'm calling you is that I need some advice what should I improve on '']''. I've re-written in from scratch, but I'd like to hear second opinion on what might be missing or needs to be corrected. Appreciate your time.--] (]) 22:49, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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:Big thanks for the swift response. By the way, I've read some months ago that you were adding '']'' on your to-do list. I'll gladly review it if you plan to expand it.--] (]) 00:07, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
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:: I'd love to do it, and if nobody else does I probably will eventually (that and the very sadly underappreciated '']'', which I think is every bit as good as ''Love It to Death'' and ''Billion Dollar Babies''). I don't expect to get to it soon, though—too many artcles on my to-do list. ]&nbsp;] 00:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
*Can you reduce ] for one second?--] (]) 22:15, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
** Argh ... it's not actually 31s—it's rounded up. But whatever. I'll do it later—I don't have the file where I am right now. ]&nbsp;] 22:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Hey Turk, I don't mean to rush you, but can you do it by the end of the week? If you're not available, I can ask someone else in the meantime.--] (]) 13:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: Okay, it's done. Frustrating though, because the file shows up as 30s both in VLC and when I check the "Properties" on my system, and the cut version shows up there as 29s. I cut less than half a second, though, so it ends up sounding pretty much the same. ]&nbsp;] 21:33, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


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::And the article ]. Then I will stop bugging you. Thanks :)--] (]) 23:26, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
::: I might have to put that off until later. As soon as my kids are done watching ''SpongeBob'' I'm giving my Dad a Father's Day call and then we're going out. I'll squeeze in what I can until then. ]&nbsp;] 23:28, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: I've got a question: what ] are these articles in? ]&nbsp;] 23:30, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: Another: what's a "torn head"? Is that supposed to be "tower head"? ]&nbsp;] 23:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: ''Today, there are still forest Sami cultures present in the woods in ] and in Malå in Västerbotten'': the source for this was published in 1952—hardly "today". Also, it says they still exist today, but the lead says the "'''were''' a ]". Which is correct? ]&nbsp;] 01:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: ''De säges vara granlappar som utgöra skatt om året bland vildvaror /,/ fiskeskatt som är gäddor, sik, abborre. Men de andra som ingen fisk ränta förmältes i årliga längden kallas fjällappar, havande det namnet därav att de bo uppe i fjällen uti bergsskrevor, och komma till inga sjöar med mindre deras nabor granlapparna vele godvilligt efterlåta dem fiska med sig.'' ("It is said that granlappar should pay taxes for their hunting and fishing.")
::::: I'm pretty sure that's not a translation of the whole quote. ]&nbsp;] 01:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: ''For example, ten forest Sami villages near the town of Vittangi used the same name.'': What is this an example of? And why would they have the same name? ]&nbsp;] 01:39, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
:::: ''the forest Sami had by that point become fewer than the Sami people'': should that be "fewer than the '''fell''' Sami"? ]&nbsp;] 01:42, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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==Kill 'Em again==
Hey Turkey, is it necessary the article to tell that Burton's band Agents of Misfortune featured future Faith No More guitarist Jim Martin and the sentence "Ulrich thought Kill 'Em All was a good name, and Zazula agreed."?--] (]) 20:59, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
* I'd keep the second bit. The first bit is pretty trivial and tangential—but I don't think it would hurt to put it in an endnote. An easy way to do endnotes is with {{tl|efn}} and {{tl|Notelist}}. ]&nbsp;] 21:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
::OK, thanks for your suggestion and thanks to the IP who added content. I've copyedited his writing a bit, and think it looks good now.--] (]) 21:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
::: I thought at first the IP might be you accidentally signed out, but reading what they added it was obvious it wasn't. ]&nbsp;] 21:26, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


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== June 2015 == == Books & Bytes – Issue 62 ==
] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make ] on other people again, as you did at ], you may be '''] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. '''''Are you kidding me? is WAY out of line.'''''<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> &mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 23:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
* Jesus fuck—the dildo who ] is me! Who the fuck do you think I was addressing?!? ]&nbsp;] 23:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
**Didn't get that but, your language in that edit summary and now here is just not appropriate, if you're talking about yourself or not. You have a tendency to come off uncivil and aggressive in your comments and edit summaries as it is, but please try to restrain yourself.&mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 23:21, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
*** Maybe I will, maybe I won't—I doubt it will make a difference, given the widespread ABFing going on. ]&nbsp;] 23:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Dude, I apologize for jumping to that conclusion, but come on, you know very well that edit summaries like that and the f-word on your talk page just make you look bad, and are ammo for people trying to get you in trouble. It's not worth it.&mdash; ]<sup>]</sup> 23:41, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
::::*If people would learn some empathy, it wouldn't have to be. If they'd think "Oh, I'm upsetting him/her. Better not push anymore" rather than "Awesome, that **** said **** *** ** **** ************* *******, *** *******. I'm going to cause some **** at ANI and get that ******* blocked forever." then we'd reduce drama levels on-wiki by half, or more.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::* I understand you mean well by that comment, but I don't subscribe to it: one of the earliest tustles I got into on WP was when I used the word "whine"—turns out the other editor was female (with a username that wasn't obviously female), and interpreted it as a sexist remark (and I don't entirely blame her—it's not like such intentional aggressions don't exist). We're never going to agree where to draw the line, and context makes for moving targets anyways. For me, anyone who's going to get upset at a stray "fuck" should take it up with a professional, not ANI. ]&nbsp;] 00:50, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
:: Even I got it, - perhaps because we recently had a DYK about masturbating in ], --] (]) 23:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
::: Oh, my—live on stage? Where can I get a ticket? ]&nbsp;] 00:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::: See that only now. For 1971 it's too late, the pictured poster is of 2014, - I guess it will not be played much in countries other than German-speaking, but this was Cyprus. The play also features that the "old farmer" (as the DYK termed it, not by me) impregnates a minor and ends with her going in labour. --] (]) 14:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::: Sounds like a hit! ]&nbsp;] 00:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
:::*On a barely related note, are real? ''Damn''.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 14:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
:::** As in, do these "shows" actually run on Japanese TV? Some of them actually look like they might, but that "Sing Karaoke While Getting A Handjob" definitely isn't—it was going around on Facebook and someone found out it was just porn done up to look like a regular TV show. It appears that #1 at least is for real—but on satellite TV, not over-the-air. I hardly ever watch TV (and I rarely stay up past midnight), but I've seen after-hours stuff—even over the air—that would blow you away (not actual porn, but stuff that makes some of those shows look plausible). ]&nbsp;] 20:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::Ha, ], the second-best website in the world: Cited references to reliable sources, sarcasm, and humor! On the subject of this section: Curly Turkey ''does'' ] that he swears a lot, so stand back if you don't want to get any on you. ] (]) 22:05, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::*It is... frightening... to think of what could possibly blow a veteran editor away. But then, knowing the depths of humanity's depravity, it's not surprising. I'd have thought number 1 to be a porn, to be quite honest... &nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:12, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::** Well, "blow you away" in the sense that it'd be hard to imagine some of this stuff on over-the-air TV anywhere else in the world, not necessarily in the sense of "Oh my God! I can't believe there are people in the world who would ..." For that stuff, you <s>go to the J-porn section.</s> dig around the internet for J-porn. ''Edited when I realized how 20th-century that made me sound.'' ]&nbsp;] 23:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::***I'd comment on how we usually use German porn for such jokes, but then realized that (as per our previous discussions) there is such a thing as "live action '']''". There are clearly things on this earth not meant for mortal eyes.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 23:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::::**** Did I tell you that the first J-porn I ever saw—and I mean the ''very'' first, before I'd even seen so much as a picture of a Japanese nipple—was '']''? I'd just gotten a membership at a place that rented out anime (back when we still called in "Japanimation"), and I was still mostly unfamiliar with that stuff, so I asked the owner to recommend some. He pulled out ''Barefoot Gen'', '']''—and ''Overfiend'', giving me a knowing smile and telling me not to let my mother catch me watching it. He didn't tell me a thing about it, and I never saw the box, so I assumed he meant it had ''Akira''-level bloody violence&nbsp;... ]&nbsp;] 03:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::*That is an interesting story. Wonder why demons feature so predominantly in H.... the earliest that I remember seeing is '']''. I was not impressed.&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 03:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::** Wow ... in multiple media ... it's a hentai porn ''franchise''. I'm sure someone merely forgot to add the bits about the posable action figures, right? ]&nbsp;] 13:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::*Posable... action... figures... I'm afraid to ask, but they are... anatomically correct?&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 14:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::** Borderline, but not technically incorrect. ]&nbsp;] 00:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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* Okay, I don't have all the sources he had, but I'll keep an eye on it and help out if I can. ]&nbsp;] 03:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
** I've responded, but I wonder if ]'s really on break—he put up that notice in April, and he sure seems to have made a lot of edits, as recently as today. I wonder if he just forgot to take down the notice. ]&nbsp;] 04:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

:::] and ], I am angry at myself for forgetting to take my Wikibreak notice down. Below is a paragraph of my venting, but I must admit this is rather humorous also.

:::Wugapodes, please allow me to make a correction to your assumption. I did ''all'' of the research for this article and rewrote this article ''in its entirety'' myself. (] is my sandbox version). I don't think Curly Turkey will mind when I say he is not a major contributor. After I completed my research, I deleted the previous, unsuitable version of the article, then I rewrote the article. I asked Curly Turkey to pre-review the article, which he was kind enough to do (I trust him as he is an expert on the subject). However, in addition to his helpful comments that he wrote to the Talk page, he also made numerous tiny edits to the article, each edit changing only a few characters. This is not the way I edit. I write, click Preview instead of Save, write some more, click Preview again, and repeat this process for sometime hours and then finally click Save. ] to him at the time that others would see his name in the history so much more often than mine and fail to notice the number of characters I contributed in comparison, and assume he was the primary contributor. Now I see that this is exactly what has happened. And now, I am dismayed to see that I have left my Wikibreak notice on and find Curly Turkey, in good faith and only trying to be helpful, responding to the review as if he is the nominator. I fully understand there is no ownership of articles on Misplaced Pages. But rarely have I put so much work into an article and I have been patiently waiting for the moment of its GA review for six months. Curly Turkey, thank-you kindly for your help, I am not ungrateful and I remain respectful, but I believe I would like to take over at this point! ] (]) 07:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
:::: Oh, don't worry about it—the nomination's in your name, so you'd still get all the credit. ]&nbsp;] 07:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
::::: And I only just now finished reading Wugapodes' review. Thank-you for stating numerous times that I should have the final say. As I implied, I rarely get that opportunity! And I must clarify that I want you to continue to follow the review and interject your comments anytime. Now I must retire for the evening and briefly return to real life in the coming morning. Cheers. ] (]) 07:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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::Some admins might block you for that comment alone, CT. I'm not going to; it would take more than that for me to block you for cussing somebody out on your own page. ''But'' your personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith on ] are beyond the pale. You have been blocked for 72 hours. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing <nowiki>{{unblock|your reason here}}</nowiki> on this page. ] &#124; ] 10:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
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::::If there are provocations, you're supposed to help yourself by not rising to them. I don't see any obvious provocations at ], though. Posting a mealy-mouthed warning template intended for newbies on this page ''is'' pretty provocative, though, which is part of the reason I'm not (much) objecting to your response to it. ] &#124; ] 11:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
::::Please use your own words in a situation like this, ]. ] &#124; ] 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
:::]: Misplaced Pages needs to prioritize dealing with disruptive behaviour. Everything The Banner did in this interaction was aiming at this outcome, including an accusation of "personal attacks" before I said anything that could be interpreted as such. Surely you don't want to enable such bad behaviour. This will only encourage him to do it again, and he already has a history of edit warring and aggressive interactions. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
::::And now The Banner is making a point of posting a provocative response to that discussion, knowing I can't respond. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 12:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::::: and are proof that you would've made the reverts regardless, so, no, it would not have
:::::: But you win your game, The Banner. You can fuck with people as you please, and the admins will even help you. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 20:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::: ] Re: —I'm not unretired, and wasn't even going to be here tomorrow. Instead of offering a "deal", why not "deal" with the editwarring troll who {{em|will}} be here tomorrow, instead of blocking whoever he successfully baits into f-bombing? Now emboldened with a fresh success. ]&nbsp;<span style="color: red;">🍁</span>&nbsp;] 11:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Bishonen may have a different take, but my own thought is: When you're snarking back and forth with someone else at levels 1 and 2, and then you break out a level 10 response, it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally". I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now. I usually instinctively sympathize with a person being baited into something - if nothing else, their soul is less slimey - but ... not at this level of disproportionality.
::::::::The only remaining concern I have is if you two had a previous history. If so, those reverts start looking less confused and more calculated. ] (]) 17:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::::: There was no "snark" until The Banner had thoroughly stonewalled the "discussion", so the root issue has nothing to do with language.
::::::::: {{em|"it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally""}}: Who said anything about "equally"? How about "appropriately", so he doesn't think he can get away with this stuff again?
::::::::: {{em|"I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now"}}—meaning a troll gets off if they are sufficiently successful. No wonder they get away with this stuff so frequently here.
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* The Japanese version of the article gives a couple of sources, and gives 149 results, although (a) they seem mostly to be in passing, and (b) almost none of them are viewable online. Almost all of them give the title as 放屁合戦 "Hōhi gassen" rather than 屁合戦 "He gassen", though (放屁 refers to the releasing of farts, whereas 屁 is a fart itself—the difference, I suppose, between a "farting battle" and a "fart battle"). If the issue is whether there are enough sources to justify having an article, I say without a doubt yes. If it's about how those sources are being used—I'd have to get out to the library to answer that. ]&nbsp;] 21:50, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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At ], I made some tweaks ... I'm not criticizing your writing style, I just think in general that a column (such as TFA) should aim for some consistency in style. See what you think. I hope I didn't introduce inaccuracies. - Dank (]) 20:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
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:: ''The book is postmodern, persistently self-referential and ironic—most strikingly in its depiction of Jews as mice, Germans as cats, and non-Jewish Poles as pigs.'': this makes it seem like the anthropomorphism itself was ironic—at times, irony deflates the animal metaphor, by I wouldn't say it was overall ironic. I think I'd drop the "persistently" as well, not because it's inaccurate, but because it's a bit redundant.
:::Okay, what I'm trying to do here is preserve your wording (which is fine) while dealing with a readership that won't have a clear sense of postmodernism, and avoiding definitions or anything that sounds professorial. Would something along these lines work? "The book is ironic, self-referential, and ]—most strikingly ..." - Dank (])
:::: I think that works better, but I don't think the irony is as prominent as the self-referentiality, etc—the word hardly even comes up in the article. ]&nbsp;] 01:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
:: ''with frequent flashbacks to the war years'': probably two thirds or more of the book is these flashbacks—I'm not sure "frequent" gets that across.
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== Comics vs Comic ==

One of your favorite awkward manifestations of the English language! Is it always "comics" and never "comic"? Don't worry, I mostly know the answer, however I come to you with the question as the '']'' article is undergoing a very helpful copy edit from the ] and, while I know it should be "comics series" and "comics feature" and not "comic feature", I notice my own writing occasionally says "comic" ("the elaborate, fully painted comic" and "pencil roughs of each page of the comic") so I may be getting it wrong sometimes. After all, it is "comic strip", not "comics strip". So what do you think? It would help me the most if you would please go to this page and search for every use of the word "comic" and see if each appearance should instead be "comics". I want to get an understanding of this once and for all. Thanks! ] (]) 19:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
: It's "comics" when referring to the ''medium'', so it's correct to say "comics writer", "comics publisher", "comics critic". In "the elaborate, fully painted comic" and "pencil roughs of each page of the comic", you're not talking about the medium. "Comics strip" and "comics book" would be logically more correct, but "comic strip" and "comic book" were well established long before the term "comics" (uncountable) became widely used to refer to the medium (which happened by the eighties—it's how Eisner used the term in '']'').
: In "the elaborate, fully painted comic" and "pencil roughs of each page of the comic", you're not talking about the medium itself, but individual manifestations of it. Think of it this way: "theatre" is a medium, and a "play" is a manifestation of it. A critic of the medium would be a "theatre critic", rather than a "play critic", right? So take "pencil roughs of each page of the comic" and substitute "theatre" and "play" into it: which sounds better, "pencil roughs of each page of the theatre" or "pencil roughs of each page of the play"? Since it's the latter, you're safe using "comic". Having said that, I avoid it because "comic" can be read in different ways (apparently "comic" is the preferred term for "comic book" in England, for example, and in certain circumstances the word can be read as "comedic", as in "]"). I'd use a term such as "strip" or "work" to avoid confusion, but you're not "incorrect" to use "comic" there. ]&nbsp;] 21:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
: Oh, God—you've got Miniapolis copyediting ... ]&nbsp;] 21:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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*When was the change made? If it was after 2009, I don't think we should change the name in the article. (Also, I'm not a fan of the ''The Nikkei'')&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 07:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
** The J-version of the article says the name change was officially made on 1 January 2007. I don't think I'm a fan of ''any'' J-paper—no Sundays funnies. ]&nbsp;] 07:32, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
***(The joke was about the duplicated ''The''. I believe we're supposed to nix the extra "the").&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 09:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs disqualifies me from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I wonder ...

... how long this will stay visible. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

What do you expect where not even flowers are welcome? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
SchroCat: What "poking"? Cassianto's telling an unprovoked lie about me. Seriously, what the fuck? And why now? When's the last time I even interacted with the guy? And why not delete his (actual) trolling of me while you're at it? These questions aren't rhetorical ...
... and what in the flying fuck are you accusing me of that would "backfire"?! What fucking game is this?! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I wonder what makes the difference between Percy Grainger and Psalm 149, protect one, but revert the other? Also the difference between Imogen Holst and her father. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't give two shits about the Infobox Wars; I give many, many shits about the spreading of cowardly lies about me. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
...not a lie. But you keep telling yourself that. Cassianto 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Your "creative interpretation" doesn't even make sense in the context (tellingly, you don't even try). Neither does bringing it up out of the blue two years after the blocks expired. I'd've thought having successfully conned an admin into administering 20% of my blocks would've been revenge enough for calling you out, but apparently you intend to spread this lie until you're finally indeffed. That's some superhuman grudgeholding. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:38, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
"Calling out" for what? Be very careful, or I'll see to it that my 20% stake in your block log is increased. Cassianto 09:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
"Calling you out" for digging up every opportunity to keep your end of that discussion knee-deep in irrelevant ad hominems, of course. Resorting to laughably empty threats instead of retracting your lie only paints you as more the coward, terrified to own up to his missteps. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
As I think we've established, it wasn't a lie. Anyway, this is my last post conversing with you. I have better things to do, like going to watch some grass grow Cassianto 19:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
You haven't been "conversing" with anyone—you've been trolling and lying, and doing a piss-poor job of hiding it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Of course, a troll'd troll poorly if they didn't deny everything, so I guess the only thing to do at this point is to keep this horseshit out in the open—sunlight as disinfectant. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Talkback

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Shearonink: Are you sure? I don't see anything, and it's not an area I normally edit. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I ran into an IP-hopper/vandal who was deleting the phrase from the disambiguation line of the article & you had edited the article somewhat recently (lol maybe August of lAst year?) and I was wondering what the consensus about the phrase might be. That's all - an admin stepped in on the situation. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019

a time for thanks and praise

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

アケオメ! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:25, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Misplaced Pages, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? - Can you check out the last entry on my talk, for notabilty? Look for "Japanese". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Huh

Again I must ask, how is this guy not blocked yet?

I also don't recall any specific time in the past he's told me to stay off his talk page; he's blanked my comments a bunch of times with nonsense/sarcastic/degrading edit summaries, but the closest he came to was "Do not post on my talk page unless it is an actual discussion" -- hardly "specifically to stop posting to talk page ", and by telling me to "Cease immediately, else be faced with a report similar to those threaten and intimidate multiple other editors with" -- I don't even know what he's talking about, since it's been months since I "threatened" a single editor with such a report, and then not with the intent of "intimidating" like using legalistic language like "cease immediately". (And yes, I know he's almost certainly referring to this, in which I said dig your heels in, deny, and get blocked to prevent further damage to the project but there was also the critical context in which it was posted -- Seriously, take the hint here. I'm trying to help you, but you are digging yourself a hole that you're not going to be able to get out of. I'm begging you to .)

Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:11, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Off topic arguing removed from WP:ANI

Hi. Please do not restore that content again. The thread was closed to stop you and the other editor arguing unproductively. Carrying on afterwards is not acceptable, hence its removal. Restore it again and I will block your account from editing for disruption. Regards, Fish+Karate 11:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Fish and karate: It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless, so you're not accomplishing anything but aggravating people with this behaviour. You still have the option to revert and hat, like I requested—unless threatening victims of harassment with blocks is more your style. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
As I said, restore it again and you will be blocked for disruption. Being very clear on an entirely avoidable consequence is not a threat. If you want to carry on arguing with another user, do it elsewhere. The thread was closed, this means "stop". I am sorry that you are a victim of harassment, or feel like you are; if you wish to report that harassment please do so, as I would hope it could be resolved. However, this does not exempt you from anything, including being expected to know when to drop the stick. You have been asked, and now have been told, to not post that content back again; that really should be the end of it. If you need it for an arbitration request, or whatever, the diffs are all in the page history. Fish+Karate 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Fish and karate: I requested you to hat it rather than obfuscate the record, and you responded with an immediate revert and threat to block, choosing the more aggressive of the options. And here you are reiterating the threat (twice in one post) when it's obvious I'm not about to revert it. Your heels are too firmly dug in to get my hopes up, but perhaps you'll reconsider your approach in the future. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
A re-revert, not a revert. If it's "obvious (you're) not about to revert it" then why say "It's all going straight back up again tomorrow regardless"? If I mistook your meaning there I do apologize. Fish+Karate 13:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
As in, it's all going straight back into the ANI report I promised, which I've now filed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 14:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Which is fine, that's what ANI is for, no objection to that. Apologies again for mistaking your meaning - I was under the impression it meant you were going to re-post the content at the end of a closed thread, again. Fish+Karate 15:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding Borodin and news from Moscow

In regard to this edit, I don't think it was The Moscow News at the time Borodin worked there. The sources I used referred to Moscow News, and the masthead from that period lacked the definite article. The name The Moscow News seems to have been adopted in one of the more recent incarnations of the paper. RGloucester 06:36, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

RGloucester—if that's the case, then change it back. You'll probably want to slap a {{not a typo}} on it, and a hidden comment explaining why so someone else doesn't gnome it away again. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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Feeling a bit of an ego boost, but also apologetic

Within moments of the 令和 announcement, the BBC and multiple other English-language outlets had announced that 令 meant "order" or "command" (the clearly bogus implication that the two are different, and therefore that it means order in the sense 順番 or the like, aside, a 万葉集 Book V passage was clearly cited as the source, and in that context it definitely meant "good" or "auspicious"). The administration's intentions in choosing a character that to 99% of Japanese means "command" can be speculated on, I guess, but it just seemed sloppy to me; someone cited them in our article, I tagged the citation as not being the best, and shortly thereafter the BBC article had been partly amended, using the same words as my tag did. I'm definitely not the only one to notice that error, and I wasn't the first, but I imagine a lot of people were looking at Misplaced Pages to check these things.

All that said, a bunch of source's have mistakenly identified the 万葉集 as "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", apparently mirroring a mistranslation that appeared on the Kantei's website. I could have probably prevented some of that if I had done several days ago (or years ago when I first noticed that it was quite a common problem) what I just did now and added "It is not Japan's oldest poetry anthology" to the lead of our article.

It'll probably not be until the next era change (I kinda wish Japan would go back to the old system where eras change a lot more frequently than sovereigns) before my area of the encyclopedia gets that much attention.

Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Have you been following the English coverage? It gets soooooo much shittier than all that. Check out how many sources translate 令 not only as "order" but "orderly" (!!!!!), so that they translate 令和 as "orderly peace" (!!!!!).
You appear to be aware that there's controversy in the press and amongst politicians over the name, and there really should be more in the article about it (for example, it's been brought up that the only other time in history 令 was proposed in a nengō was with 令徳, which was rejected as implying "徳川に命令する", so the concerns with the choice "really" meaning "command" are nothing new, and likely known when the choce was made).
The Man'yōshū article could sure use some love, eh? I was going to make some comment about what you were saying, but then thought I'd double-check the article to see if I had my facts straight ... the article wasn't helpful, so I'll button my lips. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation of other candidates than Reiwa

Did you read the source attached to the sentence you contended?
"「令和」考案は中西進氏 古事記・日本書紀含め、3案が国書典拠" (in Japanese). 政府が1日に有識者や閣僚らに提示した六つの新元号案は「令和」のほか、「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」だった.

See also
"英弘、久化、広至、万和、万保=政府提示の他5元号案判明". Jiji.com. April 2, 2019. 新元号選定をめぐり、政府が有識者懇談会などに示した六つの原案のうち選ばれなかった五つは「英弘(えいこう)」「久化(きゅうか)」「広至(こうし)」「万和(ばんな)」「万保(ばんぽう)」と分かった.

I don't think Japan Today and its source SoraNews24 are reliable.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Phoenix7777Is NHK good enough for you? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Japan-English translation

Hello Curly Turkey

I'm looking for a way to romanize this 3 web pages of N.O.M. 54 (jan 2003) about the video game The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker => . Are you abble and have time to do this ? I writing the corresponding (page on Misplaced Pages in French, but I think this will be usefull for Misplaced Pages in English too.

I also asked this to Bueller 007 and Mr. Stradivarius.

Regards --Archimëa (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry—are you asking for a translation of the whole page? I'm not sure what you're asking me to do. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Hello
Thanks for replying. I'm looking for the whole translation of the interview (3 pages), but if I understand as you react that it seems to be a big work for you, the page 2 where the sound progammers talking about they work , should be best interresting part to me.. Google translation and ohers are undrinkable. So, Page 2 if you can ? if you can't i understand, of course.
Thanks for your help, anyway --Archimëa (talk) 10:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Request translations

Please, if you have time, can you translate this pages from Japanese to English: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:鷲尾義久 (Washio Yoshihisa), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), ja:柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), ja:花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), ja:小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), ja:毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), ja:田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:角田久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino), ja:徳住有香 (Yuka Tokuzumi). Thank you very much. --80.181.64.189 09:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.181.64.189 (talk)

Hmmm ... I actually enjoy doing translations, but the citations on these don't appear to meet the standards that the Egnlish Misplaced Pages require. If I find the time, maybe I'll look more closely and see what I can do ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:35, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
I see you've added some more ... Is there some reason you've chosen these articles? Hijiri88: are you looking for anything for one of those article-creation drives? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm very interested in these voices. I tried to translate them personally, but it's harder than I thought, and above all I don't have enough time. You would do me a big favor if you could help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.234.87 (talk) 09:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'll keep looking to see if I can do any of them, but I can't just translate them. If they don't have proper sourcing as per WP:RS, they will be deleted on English Misplaced Pages. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much! If they don't have proper sourcing, you can search them in other internet sites. --95.252.44.4 09:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm hoping to win WAM this year, without having an asterisk that technically I didn't get the most points, but that the guy who did copy-pasted many if not most of his articles. So I'm saving my energy for that; and also fixing the Manyoshu articles as penance for not having done so before a bunch of popular news media started talking about it. TRM said List of Man'yōshū poets can't be a featured list until all the poets have their own articles, so that's got me pretty occupied any time I'm in an article-writing mood. Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I help you with some proper sources: Koyata Yamamoto (http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0459.htm). --87.4.239.94 10:53, 22 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.4.239.94 (talk)
Unfortunately, those aren't the kind of sources that are acceptable at English Misplaced Pages. Please see WP:RS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:46, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Then I left these translations to you, when you will have time and find proper sources. Please, don't forget it, if you can. --80.116.115.163 16:01, 23 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.116.115.163 (talk)

Japanese honorifics

Please, can you help me with this discussion? Thank you. --79.24.236.241 06:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Rikidōzan

Please, can you edit one of these photos about Katsushi Murata, his murderer, in the paragraph "Death": Identikit (site), Murata and his daughter, Katsushi Murata (site). Thank you. --82.48.216.50 17:23, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I can add the first one, because it was published by an organization more than 50 years ago. The other two photos are still under copyright, though. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, but can you edit also the journal article which is in that same site? There is also this discussion, if you can help me. --79.16.239.68 07:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Giant Baba family

There are these photos about his family if you can edit: Shohei Baba and his parents, Shohei Baba and his mother (December 1968), Shohei Baba and his mother (colors), Journal photos. --79.16.239.68 07:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

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Yoshitsune (TV series)

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So, that happened...

Trump gave a speech about the imperial household and the Man'yōshū and Reiwa and Tabito and Okura. Pretty hilarious by itself to think that anyone would think it was Trump's own words coming out of his mouth. But what's even more interesting is that he didn't repeat the same "oldest poetry anthology" error that appears on Abe's English website and every English-language media outlet that has discussed the issue over the last few months (except the English version of the Mainichi's website). I guess someone on Trump's team checked English Misplaced Pages (specifically this text) and noticed the mistake, and changed it to the extremely 意訳ish a collection of ancient Japanese poetry called the Man'yōshū. The apostrophe and the macrons really look like someone checked English Misplaced Pages, unless the Trump White House includes someone with a grounding in the writings of Miller and Keene, and the fact that "Japan's oldest " has been so ubiquitous as a translation of the phrase "日本最古の歌集" makes me really want to believe that Trump was told by Abe through an interpreter that the source of the name "Reiwa" is "Japan's oldest poetry anthology", Trump's speech was drafted to include that, and someone looked on Misplaced Pages during the drafting.

Now, I wonder how the South Korean (and North Korean) governments will react to Trump having shoehorned in a reference to Yamanoue no Okura and not mentioning his being a likely immigrant from Paekche. That seems really like something someone on the Abe side got Trump to say and no one on the American side knew enough to see the problem. Then again, it's entirely possible I'm literally the only person to notice this who wasn't directly involved.

Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I sure wouldn't have noticed. I wanted to hear the speech to hear how Trump would trip over pronouncing Man'yōshū, but all I could find is this, which cuts out before those sections (assuming he gave the whole speech). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:25, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Hijiri 88 (やや) 06:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
サンキュー Don't have to worry about the Koreans—he talks about "Yamanoue no Okora", so nobody's gonna notice. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Not sure what to make of this

I don't think I've ever conflicted with a user who was trying to set themselves up as a good-faith Wikipedian whose goals were in line with the project, who immediately after failing to get me site-banned posted a bunch of dog-whistles about "those sneaky Japs" on their user page. Obviously a lot of editors I've conflicted with have assumed I was secretly Japanese despite my relatively much better English than Japanese ability and the clear statement on my user page, but this is a step or two further, and those guys were usually using throwaway sock accounts to do that. Hijiri 88 (やや) 02:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, I don't know your history with the user, but I've noticed there's a breed of American that likes to whip out Pearl Harbour at every opportunity—plenty of such folk were calling 東日本大震災 "payback for Pearl Harbour". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:25, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I had seen no indication that he was one of those guys despite combing a bunch of his edits for copyvio. Basically after I opened a CCI on him he opened an ANI on me, and a bunch of folks showed up to essentially say "Yeah, Hijiri88 is very much in the right in this case, so let's just put the OP under more scrutiny for copyvio, and not indef him for harassment" (some people who didn't know me said "Let's indef the OP for copyvio"). After a couple of days I decided I'd had enough and went on break, after which point the thread was closed. Once I came back to Misplaced Pages yesterday, suddenly the offending editor was posting anti-Japanese propaganda on his user page, and citing the 75th anniversary of D-Day (!?) as an excuse. I'm not sure if he thinks I won't notice, or if the mere fact of my having noticed is gonna be trumped up by him as further evidence of my "hounding him" -- it would do him great if he could point to anti-Japanese edits he made before his first interaction with me, but otherwise it just looks like he's posting racist dog-whistles on his user page specifically for my attention, which is the opposite of me hounding him. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

HOUND

Posting this here because, while I'm not afraid to point it out in public, I'm worried that posting a "we really don't need to listen to this guy, since he's here for tendentious and highly hypocritical reasons" directly on WT:HARASS would be tagged as "inappropriate use of a policy talk page" even though it's clearly on-topic and relevant. I dunno ... if you or User:Tryptofish or User:CorbieV agree with me then I wouldn't need to be the one to point it out.

I'm just going to point out that despite claiming HARASS is the most important Misplaced Pages policy excepting possibly NPA, Snow Rise has never edited this page before posting the above, and is in fact one of the editors who has repeatedly asserted that when I monitor the edits of disruptive editors like the above-mentioned 11-character editor it qualifies as hounding, and was himself personally responsible for much of the difficulty in handling the problematic editors. His opinion on who is in the right never seems to change no matter how many of the users I was "hounding" ultimately get sitebanned. How did he notice this discussion, why does he show up every time I am accused of "hounding" a problematic editor (including attempting to rewrite a clear statement by ArbCom in order to rehash hounding accusations he had made three years earlier), and do you think he realizes the irony of him repeatedly accusing me of hounding?

Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why you should post here about it ... but it did raise my eyebrows when I saw SR post that there. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Your ping for "CorbieV" should have been for User:CorbieVreccan. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I had posted there like a week ago with no word, but then I posted a description of one of the many incidents that inspired my view on the matter (the correct view, sanctioned by ArbCom, and pretty much everyone else who is not themselves a tendentious editor), pinged you, you commented, and suddenly SR became interested. Not sure if that was relevant, but you do have something of a history of agreeing with me when I accuse "the editors I was hounding" of in fact hounding me. (Emailing the diff, since that is something I'm "afraid to point out in public" because it would give the appearance of gravedancing.) Hijiri 88 (やや) 22:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

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Malcolm X page

Hello,

I was wondering if you could insert this Malcolm X quote somewhere on his Misplaced Pages page

"“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” ― Malcom X"


Here is the source. It's the second quote from the top. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search?q=%E2%80%9CThe+media%27s+the+most+powerful+entity+on+earth.+They+have+the+power+to+make+the+innocent+guilty+and+to+make+the+guilty+innocent%2C+and+that%27s+power.+Because+they+control+the+minds+of+the+masses.%E2%80%25


Thank you. 37.230.207.224 (talk) 16:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

In what context? And why ask me? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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Funny: the Poetry Foundation as a source came up in my Misplaced Pages class last week. Students were using it, and I explained that IMO their pages can be used to verify basic, factual information, but not statements like the one in the Rilke article (I'll use that as an example Monday). If the page listed an author, and if sources were provided, it might be a different thing--but saying "according to the Poetry Foundation..." will not do here, of course. We just need to cut that entire sentence, I think. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

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Suitability of The Pickwick Papers (1913 film) for FAC

Hi Curly Turkey. I brought The Pickwick Papers (1913 film) to good article status a few months ago, and I am now considering nominating it for featured article status. Would you be willing to take a look over the article and give your opinion on how it would fare at FAC? Although you aren't listed at Misplaced Pages:Mentoring for FAC, I wanted to ask you since you have brought several silent film articles to featured status. Thanks in advance. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:15, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Lord Bolingbroke: It's not a subject I know much about, so I can't speak to its comprehensiveness. The writing seems fine—I made some very minor, mostly insubstantial edits that you can feel free to revert, but the quality of writing would not have been an issue at FAC. If it were me, I'd add some very brief contextualizing both the novel (publication and reputation?) and Bunny (birth, length and character of career?). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reading through the article. A quick question re this edit: Wouldn't the period remain inside the nested quotes to preserve the original quotation? I agree that some additional context may be helpful; the question is where to put it, however. Would material about Bunny's career fit in the production section? Would a sentence or two about the novel's publication details fit in the plot section? I'll put the article aside and re-evaluate its potential for expansion in a few weeks. I don't want to rush things since I haven't nominated a FA before. :) In any case, I'll probably reach out to one of the editors at WP:FAM for a more in-depth review before taking the plunge. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 22:46, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
No, we don't preserve outside house styles on Misplaced Pages. We would only do so if there were some significance to doing so (say, to compare stylings, or to demonstrate something).
As for where to put the context: you could have a short "Background" section, or, as you say, you could say something in the plot summary. Say, something along the lines of "The Pickwick Papers appeared in 1836 and was Charles Dickens first novel; . The film adapts only three ...".
To be honest, unless a subject expert were to point out some gaping flaw or oversight, I wouldn't be surprised to see it promoted pretty much as is. There might be some technical details you could add—length and gauge of film? Is it known what cameras or other equipment was used? Filmic techniques or whatever?
Looking a bit more closely, I can see a brief history in th esecond endnote about previous Pickwick adaptations. YOu could move that into a background section—start with the novel's publication and legacy, move onto film adaptations, and conclude with a capsule history of Bunny's career. Maybe two brief paragraphs. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
A separate background section seems like the way to go. I didn't think there was enough material for one when I was first writing the article, but if I include more info on Bunny's career, as you suggest, a stand-alone section would fit effectively into the structure of the article. One paragraph on Bunny and his earlier work with Vitagraph, plus a paragraph on Dickens's original novel and its earlier film adaptations, would definitely make the article easier to understand for readers unfamiliar with the subject. This would also resolve the issue of having such a bulky footnote on previous adaptations of Pickwick.I feel confident about the article's comprehensiveness. Gill cites one article (from the Chatham News if I'm remembering correctly) that I wasn't able to track down with an interlibrary loan request. Other than that, I've tracked down all the cross-references from the sources I've cited. Unless I've missed something major in my research, our article is the most comprehensive account of The Pickwick Papers yet written.Regarding the technical details you asked about, the British Film Institute specifies that the film gauge is 35mm and that the length is 2079 ft. (The BFI only has two out of the three reels, however; we could extrapolate that the full length is ~3,000 ft., but that would be original research.) Sources appear to be silent on the equipment and filmic techniques employed in the film's production. The sources that go into the most detail about production—the two Moving Picture World articles by Hoffman—focus more on Bunny and the crew (e.g., their attempt to borrow a historic cab from the British Museum) rather than the technical details of filming. The best I could tell you in this regard is that the crew consisted of Laurence Trimble, the director, and one camera operator. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Before I comment further, I just want to reiterate that, despite the number of film FAs I've produced, I'm not a film buff, and have relied on reviewers to spot technical and contextual issues. I don't know how necessary, useful, or helpful the tech information is, but it seems to be a popular thing to include when available. If you include it, I'd word it something like "the copies in the BFINA are 2079 ft". We don't know th elength of the other reel, so leave it to the reader to speculate. Unless you have a source explicitly stating so, we don't know if the 2079 ft is even the full length: Gertie the Dinosaur, for instance, is missing at least one sequence, which was discovered only because of the discovery of unicorporated "cels"—if they hadn't been discovered, you would never guess anything was missing.
Or, you could just leave it out, unless a reviewer requests it. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm late in replying, but I just want to thank you for taking time to look over the article even though you were going through a contentious on-wiki disagreement. I appreciate your feedback, which has helped clarify my thinking on how to improve the article. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
I don't know if you care at this point, but just to follow up to the above: I think I'll leave out the technical information on the film reels for now. Simply specifying the number of reels (and that one of them is a split reel) should be enough for most readers. If another reviewer thinks the technical info is valuable, it'll be easy to add. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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Reading Kafka

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Railroaded

Curly, I hope you read this, IMHO, you got railroaded by the arbs, I mean , in one section they say:

Edit warring: cite check

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Huh? you explained in detail on the talk page what the problem was. Are they actually reading the talk page itself ?!?!

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WTF?!?!?! Sources are black or white, what's that bullshit? If the source says something and it's realiable, it can be used. If the source doesn't say something, we can't pretend that it does. They're flat out wrong!!

I think you got railroaded ala Fram and think you should appeal to a higher level than the arbs and get this reversed! Wekeepwhatwekill (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Less active

Hey Curly Turkey, I just saw that you are done for now. Yeah, me too; I have dropped way off. Too dramatic here. I still check in and make occasional edits sometimes, so I hope you do too. See you around. —Prhartcom04:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

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Wrecking Crew article and FA

Curly Turkey, I know that you have been retired—I haven't been very active myself lately. But, I should start doing more here again. I thought I'd ask for your advice if you wouldn't mind. I know that you had advised me awhile back to seek FA on a shorter article, first, before I try to tackle something as large and difficult as the Garage rock article. I was thinking that the Wrecking Crew article might be a good place to start. It is currently GA. I was wondering if you think it has good prospects for FA and, if so, what improvements it would need to get there.

Also, I want to thank you for all of the generous help you gave me. It meant so much. I am aware that you had some issues that prompted your decision to retire—this can be a very frustrating place sometimes. But, I also want to thank you for all you have done here. I can guarantee that your significant contributions are deeply appreciated by many and that you are greatly missed. Garagepunk66 (talk) 04:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Ukiyo-e

Heya - saw your edits over at Ukiyo-e. I wanted to let you know, as the editor who originally added those {{transl}} tags, it's never been my objective to be "sloppy"; before I added them to the article, I think a number of instances of the word "ukiyo-e" had been italicised, and in the interests of caution, I made the decision to place all instances of the word in language tags.

I ought to have checked a dictionary to see if the word had become loanword enough not to need a language tag, and I'm sorry I got it wrong. However, I try my best to improve Misplaced Pages articles - including their accessibility, and I try my best to raise awareness of this with other editors, as well. Rather than careless italicisation - and I myself have run into some instances of that recently, like reference tags with italics around them - I wanted to make it at least clear that I had the goal of accessibility in mind, and hedged my bets, if this makes sense.

I apologise; I'll be more cautious in the future. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

As for the {{Nihongo}} tags in the main body of the text - I'm pretty sure I added most of those in as well. Again, my goal wasn't to "clutter up" or "invade" the main body of the text, nor to "undo others' hard work" - it was merely bringing it in line with a number of other Japanese culture articles I've edited, wherein transliterated terms, their kanji and their translation are kept as one within the text within a single template.
I apologise again - I know that foreign language terms can either be kept as footnotes or within the text. I simply did what I editorially thought to be best practice, based on my editing history and having never run into any issues containing Japanese language terms within the text before. -- Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 10:36, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

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You're really motherfucking dedicated to provoking an unfortunate response, you motherfucking troll. Keep the fuck off my talk page. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Some admins might block you for that comment alone, CT. I'm not going to; it would take more than that for me to block you for cussing somebody out on your own page. But your personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith on Talk:Holocaust victims are beyond the pale. You have been blocked for 72 hours. You can request unblock from an uninvolved administrator by placing {{unblock|your reason here}} on this page. Bishonen | tålk 10:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
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If there are provocations, you're supposed to help yourself by not rising to them. I don't see any obvious provocations at Talk:Holocaust victims, though. Posting a mealy-mouthed warning template intended for newbies on this page is pretty provocative, though, which is part of the reason I'm not (much) objecting to your response to it. Bishonen | tålk 11:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Please use your own words in a situation like this, The Banner. Bishonen | tålk 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC).
Bishonen: Misplaced Pages needs to prioritize dealing with disruptive behaviour. Everything The Banner did in this interaction was aiming at this outcome, including an accusation of "personal attacks" before I said anything that could be interpreted as such. Surely you don't want to enable such bad behaviour. This will only encourage him to do it again, and he already has a history of edit warring and aggressive interactions. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
And now The Banner is making a point of posting a provocative response to that discussion, knowing I can't respond. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I stated a fact. The Banner talk 12:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
This ("no improvement, the quote was accurate.") this, and this are proof that you would've made the reverts regardless, so, no, it would not have "settled the matter with removing two characters".
But you win your game, The Banner. You can fuck with people as you please, and the admins will even help you. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Floquenbeam Re: "deal"—I'm not unretired, and wasn't even going to be here tomorrow. Instead of offering a "deal", why not "deal" with the editwarring troll who will be here tomorrow, instead of blocking whoever he successfully baits into f-bombing? Now emboldened with a fresh success. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:57, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Bishonen may have a different take, but my own thought is: When you're snarking back and forth with someone else at levels 1 and 2, and then you break out a level 10 response, it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally". I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now. I usually instinctively sympathize with a person being baited into something - if nothing else, their soul is less slimey - but ... not at this level of disproportionality.
The only remaining concern I have is if you two had a previous history. If so, those reverts start looking less confused and more calculated. Floquenbeam (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
There was no "snark" until The Banner had thoroughly stonewalled the "discussion", so the root issue has nothing to do with language.
"it's really hard to deal with the other editor "equally"": Who said anything about "equally"? How about "appropriately", so he doesn't think he can get away with this stuff again?
"I'm afraid you went too far over the top for something to happen to the other editor now"—meaning a troll gets off if they are sufficiently successful. No wonder they get away with this stuff so frequently here.
It's like the admins want the project to fail. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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