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New legal article

I have finished enough of Consciousness of guilt (legal) to go public with it. Further development will be appreciated. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Shane Valdez

The second edit was unintentional, as I thought I’d done something wrong and it simply hadn’t updated.

I do not know how to add the citation the information regarding his arrest came from the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and is listed on a local page which displays local arrests.

if you can tell me how to add the citation, I will do so.

This is the link.

(Redacted)

I am not a random person, I know Shane and his family personally. It wasn’t my intent to unfactually defame him but rather give a more accurate glimpse at who he is. 2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9 (talk) 22:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Please see WP:BLPCRIME and WP:BLPPRIMARY: "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. ... A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction. For individuals who are not public figures—that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures—editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured." GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you for clarifying. 2601:203:284:C70:5C2E:3499:E6BC:2CA9 (talk) 22:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Podcast feature

Hey! I was pleasantly surprised to see your name popping up in my feed for yesterday's episode of Better Offline, I really enjoyed listening to it! Was great to hear somebody talking on a public platform about how Misplaced Pages works and why it's so important. I particularly enjoyed the discussion towards the end about the rise of AI and the 'enshitification' of the internet, and why that has made maintaining Misplaced Pages is so important in this context. When I started editing a few years ago, I had similar thoughts about the oligopolisation of the internet by big social media companies, but now with AI and the dead internet theory, having a community-based source of reliable information is all the more vital.

I do hope this leads to more people contributing to the platform, as Ed Zitron pleaded for at the end; a recent feature by The Guardian succeeded in bringing at least one or two new people into the Women in Red project, so I'm really pleased to see folk actively promoting more people getting involved. Anyway, I digress. Thank you so much for doing this podcast episode, I really appreciated it. :) --Grnrchst (talk) 10:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Bounced onto here to say thanks as well, I parasocially knew you before EdZ, but was happy to see your name pop up. tedder (talk) 04:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to you both, I'm so glad to hear it's being well received! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Miyosmart

Hi there! I'm reaching out to you as a new page reviewer. I noticed you just deleted the page Miyosmart as A7 within three minutes of the page creation. Can you explain your reasoning? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the page made no credible claim of notability and lacked any references. It was created by a user whose only other contributions have been vandalism and apparently trying to game autopatrolled. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Given that the article had just been created (by a very new user) and it didn't appear to be outright vandalism, why not let it sit for at least an hour (or send to draft) to see if the editor improves it? A quick Google Scholar search shows multiple hits for the lenses. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Further, the lenses are a product, which do not qualify under A7. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I deleted it rather than moved it to draft per WP:DRAFTIFY. However, since you seem interested in working on it, I've draftified it. You're right that it's a product — that's my mistake, I misread it to be the name of the company. Best of luck with the article. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 00:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Mostly, I was just curious about your decision as I had saw it pop up during a page review, and I went in to copy edit and format, then it had been deleted before I could publish, which was surprising. At NPP, we have a guideline to wait at least an hour to recommend deletion and/or draftify unless there are serious content concerns to avoid being bitey. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Recreating an article that you deleted in 2023

Hi. Is it okay if I recreate draft article (about fever dreams), that was deleted by you in 2023? This time I have better sources. (User Masem advised me to ask this question from the admin who deleted the article.) --Pek (talk) 17:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I would recommend drafting it first, and going through WP:AFC. I'm concerned that you don't seem to have a much better grasp of the sources needed for new articles (a concern I see is shared by some others, e.g. User talk:Pek#New articles and sourcing), and especially with topics that brush up against WP:MEDRS I think it would be best if there was a second set of eyes on the article before it went to mainspace. If another editor reviews it and finds it acceptable, I certainly have no qualms with the page being recreated at that point. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I made an draft article. Could you please review it, check if the sources are good enough and if they are, could you move it to mainspace? Here is the article. --Pek (talk) 11:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I see Drmies has already left you some feedback, which is pretty much what I would have said. I have to say I'm disappointed to see that, although you've swapped out a few sources, the article is largely the same poor quality as your previous attempt. I'm really not sure where the disconnect is here, but can you not see the vast difference between the types of sources you've used in this draft and the types of sources used in high quality medical articles like, say, Oxygen toxicity?

Popsci sources like Discover's "Bizarre Fever Dreams Are Common, But Science Hasn't Figured Out Why", or sources from mattress companies, are not WP:MEDRS — and the latter are probably not even plain WP:RS. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

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Removing sourced content from Progressive International

Care to explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.63.111 (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Happily. Misplaced Pages must adhere to a neutral point of view, and editorializing a person's tweet as "celebrat news of the indiscriminate killings" based on the tweet itself (WP:OR) and an op-ed in an unreliable source falls far short of NPOV, not to mention WP:BLP sourcing requirements. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Why not edit the contribution so it fits within NPOV? I think it's hardly OR that the tweet was made and picked up in the press by more than one source. As the qoute states, in response to his tweet the UK governments antisemitism offered his own advice. The author of the tweet has not distanced himself from it either - quite the opposite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

The onus is on you to find the proper sourcing, and The Sun absolutely isn't it (WP:THESUN). GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

So, the tweet itself is not a source, nor are the hundreds of tweets since, and neither is any mentioning of the tweet in the press, neither an op-Ed, not straight forward report with qoutes from UK political figures such as Lord Mann responding to the tweet? The understanding of the SUN being a non-RS is to do with unreliable reporting of events as to whether they occured, but that tweet occured. It's in the public domain, on the internet archive. Anyone with an internet connection anywhere in the world can view it. How can this not be added to the article? 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

There are two issues here: the inclusion of the tweet in the article, and then — if included — how the tweet is described. We should first tackle whether the tweet should be included. In order to justify including it, you need a reliable source, or preferably several, to support that it's noteworthy enough to include in encyclopedia article about the organization. If the mere existence of a tweet was enough to justify inclusion, as you note, there would be hundreds of them in any article about a subject with a Twitter account (or, in this case, many hundreds of tweets in articles about organizations that have employees who tweet). So far you have not been able to come up with any reliable sources. The Sun is so unreliable it has been deprecated from being used at all. If you would like to argue about that, take it to WP:RSN, but in the meantime you'll need better sourcing.

Please recall that people tweet all the time, and political figures respond to tweets all the time. Misplaced Pages is not a repository for documenting every Twitter spat that's ever happened; it's for describing subjects in an encyclopedic fashion. If there is substantial reliable coverage of a tweet, it can potentially be included, but I'm not seeing that here. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand? Without getting into a debate of whether The Sun is a generally a RS, I think you need to answer some specific questions in relation to this article: Did The Sun invent that a) the tweet occured b) the tweet's contents c) that Pawel Wargen was its author d) that Pawel Wargen is Progressive International's coordinator of its secretariat e) that Lord Mann as the government's antisemtism adivsor responded with a qoute in the article f) that Progressive International was organising a fringe event at the Labour Party conference?

Pawel Wargan is the coordinator of the organisation's secretariat, I'd say that would lead it to meet notability guidelines. I think any other conclusion would be almost perverse, but that's me. 201.174.63.111 (talk) 16:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

It's not a question of whether the tweet happened, it's a question of if it's noteworthy enough to include.

If merely being the coordinator of the organization's secretariat is sufficient for tweets to be included in the article, then by my count, we would need to get to work including 17,482 tweets in this article, including ones like "It makes more sense to eat ice cream in the winter because it doesn't melt."

But that's ridiculous, of course — we only include tweets if they are particularly noteworthy, and in this case, if they are so noteworthy that they should be included in an article about an organization (rather than one about the person who sent the tweets). How do we establish noteworthiness? Coverage in secondary, reliable sources — which, at least at this time, does not seem to exist. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

So, it meets notability criteria because unlike the tweet you posted, in I'm sorry, but that not at all that convincing and rather absurd ad absurdum, it is a) from when the author took on his role and not a decade prior b) concerns his political views, in so far as he is part of a political movement c) was printed in the UK press, as opposed to any of the other 17,000 tweets, in a daily paper with a daily circulation in the millions d) provoked reactions from the UK government's antisemitism spokespersons and Chair of Jewish Labour as reported in said article e) was then picked up in another daily article f) is highly relevant to that organization's activities and viewpoints as listed in point 8 of their Gaza resolution on their website: (8) Reject the false equivalence of colonizer and colonized, recognize that the violence of the oppressed is a response to the original condition of their oppression, and uphold the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to resist, enshrined in UN Resolution 2625, as "the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means”;

You haven't really convinced me that the tweet shouldn't be referenced. Quite the opposite. The more I look into it, the more convinced I am it should be there. I also see the article somehow fails to mention that the Bernie Sanders Institute never joined the organization once it was up and running for fairly obvious reasons - the tweet author's views being amongst them (the Secretariat is described itself on its own website as the "coordinating body of the Progressive International." So, I imagine its general coordinator has quite a big role, not dissimilar to the general-secretary of the party.)

Lastly, I would say, not including the content in some form is not a good look for the encyclopedia, given how it has been perceived to have behaved on this issue, amongst segments of the world's Jewish population. It comes across as suppression. I don't think this should be dismissed. 201.174.224.174 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

You are certainly welcome to argue at WP:RSN that The Sun (again, a deprecated source) is a sufficient source to include the tweet if you are so convinced that this is my error and not yours, but as I've already explained at length, I don't think you will have much success.

I understand that you feel the tweet is significant and noteworthy, but Misplaced Pages policy requires that Misplaced Pages content reflect the prominence of material in secondary reliable sources. As of yet, I have not seen a single secondary reliable source (The Sun excluded for aforementioned reasons) that mentions it, much less describes it as significant to the degree that it should be included in an encyclopedia article about the organization as a whole. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 19:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

References

1. Sleigh, Sophia (7 October 2023). "Keir Starmer under pressure to stop anti-Israel event at Labour conference". The Sun. Retrieved 28 April 2024. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |qoute= ignored (help)
2. https://progressive.international/wire/2023-10-28-the-gaza-resolution/en. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
3. https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-792808

Everyone Knows That (Ulterior Motives)

wdym reddit is unreliable? it's literally where all the discussion from the beginning was taking place and where it was officially announced it was found? tf? what source do you want then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB8:2003:D:455:305C:EF88:7EC0 (talk) 16:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

See WP:PRIMARY and WP:UGC. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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Arepas origins

The information that you provided on Misplaced Pages about the Arepa origins is not true. Please do your research properly. 76.66.100.7 (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Please see the sourcing in the article, including . If you have sources that contradict these, feel free to provide them. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Monster High

FYI that editor is an LTA WP:LTA/GF36. I have reported her as such where possible. FYI she is on a /40 mobile range and not a /64. wizzito | say hello! 01:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for help cleaning up TESCREAL article! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of TESCREAL

Hello! Your submission of TESCREAL at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PearlyGigs (talk) 20:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, GW. Apologies again for my mistake. I like the DYK concept and I'll try and do more there. Best wishes. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

No problem! Not the first time it's happened, and I've certainly made similar mixups myself. Happy editing! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you

Hi GorillaWarfare,

I just wanted to thank you for including your pronouns in your signature. I've wanted to include mine, but I wasn't sure if that'd be welcome because I haven't seen anyone else do so.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you because it means a lot to me.

Cheers,
u9000 (they/them • talk) 01:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@U 9 000 cheers! Check out essay Misplaced Pages:Editors' pronouns and the template {{they}} which will use the Wiki editor's specified pronouns. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 12:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad you found it helpful! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day! Hi GorillaWarfare! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Trump and cryptocurrency

Hi Molly. You're the expert on cryptocurrency, so what are your thoughts on what he's said? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Existential risk studies article

Hello, how are you?

Given your interest in TESCREAL, I suppose you might also be interested in this topic of existential risk studies, which I have decided to make. If you do have an interest to take a look, it is in my . I have also submitted the article to review, a process which I have zero experience with. Feel free to give any advice or proposition of change.

Bye. JoaquimCebuano (talk) 03:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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Some crappy crypto Whatsapp scam group - interested?

This is nothing to do with Misplaced Pages but this is an easy way to contact you... I keep getting added to a crappy Whatsapp crypto scam group of some kind or another, led by a "Professor Martin" (whose image reverse searches to all sorts of fruity things). The amount of effor they're putting in is quite entertaining. Have you got a burner number you'd like me to suggest they add to it or have you got better things to do? Or maybe suggestions for others who may be more interested (who are welcome to reply to this thread as well as presumably there are lots of lurkers on this page - just give me a number, preferably a UK one but scammers are stupid so probably anything will do and the name of persona and I will pass it on to them) :) - Have reported it many times to WhatsApp but it keeps getting resurrected... 2A02:8011:EB50:0:4DF5:3A4A:51B:8AB1 (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Message to general talk page stalkers - I keep on reporting them to WhatsApp but nothing is done lol, what do I do? 2A02:8011:EB50:0:DD5E:3A77:8AB6:1633 (talk) 19:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikimania 2024

Any chance you're at Wikimania 2024? I was looking to see if I could start a critter meetup... C. Scott Ananian (he/him) (talk) 17:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Sadly not this year! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi GorillaWarfare! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 08:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 17:12, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

September 2024 at Women in Red

Women in Red | September 2024, Volume 10, Issue 9, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 316, 317 Online events: New: Women writers & their works | Geofocus: Islands A - H Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) | Translation contest 2024 (Jul, Aug, Sep) Announcements from other communities August 30 is the tenth anniversary of WikiProject Women writers! Tip of the month: Try her pen name when searching for sources, and remember to add her to any of these that apply: List of pen names, List of literary initials, and Category:Pseudonymous women writers. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Festivals disestablished in 2023

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 21:35, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past.
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• Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
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Could you please stop reverting my changes to the page? The website had some nazi posters at the beginning of it over 7 years ago, since then it became fully compliant and still describing it as a meeting point for nazi groups is slandering the platform. Please read this Ofcom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyron1987 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Please continue the discussion on Talk:Bitchute. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 14:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hullo! I just saw this new user User:GorillaWarfareMaster appear in recent changes – no idea whether you need to be concerned, just thought I'd alert you anyway. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 04:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm GorillaWarfareMaster. He's GorillaWarfare

He's only a rookie, I'm the expert

He's like a padawan, I'm like a Grand Jedi Master

Hope this clears things up GorillaWarfareMaster (talk) 04:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

And blocked. Ed  04:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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2024-11 some categories

Hello GorillaWarfare,

A few years ago you created Category:Alt-tech and there could/may/might be overlap between

• Category:Alt-tech
• Category:Alt-right websites
• Category:Alt-right Internet forums

Also feel free to take a look at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:Websites with far-right material. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

There might be overlap, but they’re definitely not synonymous. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 18:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Jared Goff

If you watch the games you can hear them. I really don’t think I need a citation for that because you can hear it if you watch like 10 min of a game. BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@BennyAndTheJets1024: You do need a citation, particularly given the sentence you added implied that this is a new or unusual phenomenon — something that must be stated in a third-party, reliable source and not merely observed by a given Misplaced Pages editor. Please see WP:NOR. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 20:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

https://www.wnct.com/sports/sports-illustrated/4022fb6e/lions-fans-break-out-into-jared-goff-chants-in-chicago/ BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 20:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Here is the source BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

That source says that fans chanted his name at one stadium, not that his name is chanted "also almost anywhere the Lions ." Furthermore, you need to cite the source in the article edit, not just on user talk page. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok if I find one that says that you hear chants all over the place can you do it then? Also can it be like a yt vid or tik tok or something. BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

No, but you can do it. Help:Referencing for beginners is a good intro. YouTube and Tiktok will probably not be usable (see WP:UGC), nor is it sufficient to simply link a video where the cheers are audible. If it is such a unique phenomenon that it should be mentioned on Misplaced Pages, there should be no trouble in finding reliable, third-party sources commenting on the widespread cheering; if those don't exist, it is probably not something that ought to be mentioned on Misplaced Pages. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok did I do it right now? BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 21:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Pretty good. I moved it from the 2021 section to the 2024 section, since the article was written in 2024. I've also fixed the citation format and some grammar issues; see this edit to see what I changed. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 21:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much BennyAndTheJets1024 (talk) 21:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)