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== Problem text & references == == Problem text & references ==
RE "anti-Jewish riots (Pogromy) broke out in Elizabethgrad (April 27, 28), Kiev (May 8-11), Shpola (May 9), Ananiev (May 9), Wasilkov (May 10)," That text is not related to the 1905 pogrom in any way. It is from the Jewish Encylopedia article on Alexander III. The events took place in 1881!. Check here: RE "anti-Jewish riots (Pogromy) broke out in Elizabethgrad (April 27, 28), Kiev (May 8-11), Shpola (May 9), Ananiev (May 9), Wasilkov (May 10)," That text is not related to the 1905 pogrom in any way. It is from the Jewish Encylopedia article on Alexander III. The events took place in 1881!. Check here:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=A&artid=1132 http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=A&artid=1132
== Suspicious Reference == == Suspicious Reference ==
"S.N. Dubnow, History of the Jews in Russia and Poland from the Earliest Times Until the Present Day, trans. I. Friedlander, vol.2 (Philadelphia, 1920; repr., New York, 1972), p.128. (ibidem)" that volume covers the years to 1894 evidently and is unlikely to have material about Kiev 1905. "S.N. Dubnow, History of the Jews in Russia and Poland from the Earliest Times Until the Present Day, trans. I. Friedlander, vol.2 (Philadelphia, 1920; repr., New York, 1972), p.128. (ibidem)" that volume covers the years to 1894 evidently and is unlikely to have material about Kiev 1905.
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== Jewish Encyclopedia == == Jewish Encyclopedia ==
Text from Herman Rosenthal Jewish Encyclopedia is about 1881 pogroms, not a 1905 one.] (]) 00:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Text from Herman Rosenthal Jewish Encyclopedia is about 1881 pogroms, not a 1905 one.] (]) 00:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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== Name ==

This article, and other Kyiv pogroms like it, should be renamed to Kyiv pogrom (year). I could see the argument for historical names being used, but if the ] uses the modern Polish name instead of the historical Russian one, then it should either be renamed to Belostok pogrom or other pogroms need to be renamed to reflect modern names of cities/towns. ] (]) 18:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

:Yes, they should. ] (]) 01:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Problem text & references

RE "anti-Jewish riots (Pogromy) broke out in Elizabethgrad (April 27, 28), Kiev (May 8-11), Shpola (May 9), Ananiev (May 9), Wasilkov (May 10)," That text is not related to the 1905 pogrom in any way. It is from the Jewish Encylopedia article on Alexander III. The events took place in 1881!. Check here: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=A&artid=1132

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"S.N. Dubnow, History of the Jews in Russia and Poland from the Earliest Times Until the Present Day, trans. I. Friedlander, vol.2 (Philadelphia, 1920; repr., New York, 1972), p.128. (ibidem)" that volume covers the years to 1894 evidently and is unlikely to have material about Kiev 1905. Here is a Gutenberg edition: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15729/15729-8.txt ]

Jewish Encyclopedia

Text from Herman Rosenthal Jewish Encyclopedia is about 1881 pogroms, not a 1905 one.D.Albionov (talk) 00:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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This article, and other Kyiv pogroms like it, should be renamed to Kyiv pogrom (year). I could see the argument for historical names being used, but if the Bialystok pogrom uses the modern Polish name instead of the historical Russian one, then it should either be renamed to Belostok pogrom or other pogroms need to be renamed to reflect modern names of cities/towns. NotKerch (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, they should. 67.187.146.225 (talk) 01:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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