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== Western Wall == | |||
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Regarding , I suggest you start a discussion at the relevant talk page. ] (]) 20:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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3) Have you ever edited Misplaced Pages under another name? ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 20:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I only saw your territorialist note after I had posted my previous note. But I understand and will not launch any rammings or stabbings against your page in retaliation at my expulsion from it. I will stay off your land, I mean page, sorry. After all, it is yours. But I will not have you attempt to dispossess me from the main space. That would be POV cleansing which is frowned upon. The only problem is, you don't seem to always reply at talk, hence my latest edit at anti-Zionist stronghold of Meah Shearim. I do not generally take kindly to editors who edit in order to obtain the upper hand against good faith editing, hoping to keep material they are repulsed by off Misplaced Pages for as long as possible. Had I rejigged the sections at Western Wall without adding a sub-section associated with anti-Zionsim, nothing, I presume, would have triggered the alarm on your pro-Zionist radar warning system. ] (]) 20:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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You violated the 1RR at that page. Kindly revert or I will file a report. Thank you. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 00:51, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small> | |||
:Actually, youve violated the 3RR on that page, besides the ARBPIA 1RR. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 00:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small> | |||
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:: saying captured is a nnpov because then it opens up the page to a view of the wall being recaptured. That is why the neutral term of sovereignty is being used. Israel does exercise sovereignty over the site. A while back there was indeed a back and forth over this exact term, captured/re-captured and consensus was just to leave as exercised sovereignty which is a neutral term. We should try as much as possible to use terms that minimize edit wars, and let's try to have at least one article on Misplaced Pages that doesn't need to have IP conflict. This is about the Western Wall, not the IP conflict, it's a religious article, it has a bit about the conflict but it's mostly about the site and let's leave it at that. Let me know if you still want me to revert. I think the goal of Misplaced Pages is to build an encyclopedia not to aimlessly follow rules, and putting in weasel word, I think you should just leave be, the way it is now is fine and neutral. It means exactly what you want it to mean without the pov connotation. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 02:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::sovereignty is a term that says a state has legal title to that territory. That is not the case with Israel and East Jerusalem. Captured is simple fact, soveriegnty is contested minority opinion. Your view on what is neutral doesnt really concern me, and honestly I wish I had seen this response prior to you being blocked for the 3RR vio. Would have made things easier on me. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 16:10, 10 February 2016 (UTC)</small> | |||
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Hi. Just got about this pastor. I have added two references, but frankly I feel uncomfortable about even typing what he said. Perhaps you could expand it?] (]) 18:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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: The Goren one? Yeah, I did. It's very ambiguous. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 00:43, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::The material sourced was ambiguous. The source itself is quiet detailed and goes beyond Goren simply saying that Jews had only prayed at the western wall for 300 years. It documents and reliably a a notable minority point of view covering not only the western wall but also the temple mount.] (]) 00:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello Sir Joseph,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
Suggestions:
- There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".
- Reminder: an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more. (from the NPP tutorial)
- Reviewers should focus their effort where it can do the most good, reviewing articles. Other clean-up tasks that don't require advanced permissions can be left to other editors that routinely improve articles in these ways (creating Talk Pages, specifying projects and ratings, adding categories, etc.) Let's rely on others when it makes the most sense. On the other hand, if you enjoy doing these tasks while reviewing and it keeps you engaged with NPP (or are guiding a newcomer), then by all means continue.
- This user script puts a link to the feed in your top toolbar.
Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
- Reminders
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello Sir Joseph,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js
to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
- Reminders
- Newsletter feedback - please take this short poll about the newsletter.
- There is live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
- Please add the project discussion page to your watchlist.
- If you no longer wish to be a reviewer, please ask any admin to remove you from the group. If you want the tools back again, just ask at PERM.
- To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello Sir Joseph,
Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
Reminders
- Newsletter feedback - please take this short poll about the newsletter.
- There is live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord and #wikimedia-npp on IRC.
- Please add the project discussion page to your watchlist.
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