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::You are in violation of your topic ban with this edit: See ]. --] (]) 19:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::: No, article means article, not talk page. And didn't I tell you to stay off my talk page? ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 19:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::::No, topic ban means ''] ban'': please click on the link. Coffee may have accidentally used the wrong word (article instead of page); I've alerted him. ] &#124; ] 19:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC).
:::::I've updated the topic ban to reflect this. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; ] // ] // ] // </small> 19:40, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::::::Why would I be banned from editing the talk page? What purpose does that serve? ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 19:41, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


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:::::::As to why you were banned, you'd have to ask the admins for their reasoning (but let me warn you: they hate that), but did ''any'' part of the complaint against you involve talk page conduct? If it was only about the edits made to the article, then my guess is that topic bans are meant to be at least partially punitive. You're being punished, maybe as a deterrent against making edits similar to the one that inspired the ban in the future. Since your ban was for one week, it might be meant as a sort of time-out for you to cool down. I'm just guessing, though. ] (]) 19:43, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


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{{od}}Right, because what better way to get consensus than to have one more person chased away. The whole point of Misplaced Pages is to use the talk page, if you're blocking someone from an article that is one thing but to ban someone from the talk page serves no purpose. Especially if I'm posting sources to back up my claims. I don't get it. And if there's one thing I learned on Misplaced Pages is never question admins, although I've never dealt with Coffee before but the fact that he modified the ban to add the talk page is bad, he could have left it the way it was. To spend some time to add in a talk page ban is just wrong.] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 19:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:Topic means topic. Talk pages are, of course, connected directly to the topic. 6k+ edits and you have to be told this? -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 19:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:It was one thing when you were just ]ing the same comments over and over again, it's another thing when you've begun to now make veiled attacks at other editors and are claiming that they're backing some form of antisemitism. That sort of behavior is absolutely unacceptable no matter what the topic is. So the only reasonable course of action was to correctly clarify the ban so that you would be deterred from continuing to act in such a manner. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; ] // ] // ] // </small> 19:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::I'm not the first one to bring up antisemitism on the talk page. Perhaps you're not sensitive to it but even an admin mentioned the word "troubling" in the RFC as well. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 20:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:{{ec}}At a guess, Sir Joseph, having this particular topic ban cover the talk page (but notice that ''topic bans normally do'', per ], and I'm sure Coffee intended it from the start) serves the purpose of reigning in your relentless and exhausting ] of the same points and the same phrases ad nauseam on article talk; compare my comment at AE. Darkfrog, please stop trolling and fanning the flames at least until you have taken the time to click on ]. I know it's hard; nobody likes to read what it says, it's much nicer to guess; but please click all the same. ] &#124; ] 19:57, 29 February 2016 (UTC).
::That's not appropriate, Bishonen. Of course I've read TBAN. Informing another editor that there is an unwritten etiquette at WP:AE isn't trolling. Do you ''want'' him to annoy people unnecessarily? ] (]) 21:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:::Of course she doesn't want that, Darkfrog. I do think what she's trying to say, however, is that you should butt out and worry about your own current issues being discussed at AE. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 22:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
::::Yes, sorry about recommending you to click on ], ]. I have now discovered that you have an appeal of your own at AE, where all the admins who have commented agree that you're having a lot of trouble understanding your ''own'' topic ban. So I'm sure you've read ]. Maybe it isn't so easy to understand as I thought. However, I don't accept you as any kind of expert on appropriateness, after your foolish comments on this page. You had indeed much better butt out. ] &#124; ] 22:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC).
:::::Dude, come on. That's not civil. ] (]) 22:21, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


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Edit warring to restore a topic ban vio when you are appealing the ban? Be serious. Antisemetic commentary nearly made it two weeks. You have been blocked before and know the drill. For the sake of clarity this is arbitration enforcement. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 22:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:huh? Could someone please explain why I was blocked? ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 22:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
:: and then not self-reverting following the explanation that talk pages are covered. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - 22:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)</small>
] already clarified that it was a misunderstanding. The ban said article not page at first, if spartaz would look at timestamps he'd see that. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 22:54, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
*]Please look at my page history where bishonen revered a comment about my talk page comments and supposed ban violations. You'll see the ban was modified by Coffee after my edits. Please unblock me.] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 23:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
*I had already unblocked you when I edit conflicted with your message. I agree that the original restriction was defective and did not cover the talk page. {{u|Coffee}} That was pisspoor. Please note that should always refer to pages not articles as it is extremely rare that the real issue is not talk page behavior. I also consider myself trouted. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 23:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 23:20, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


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:How is anti-semitic, anyway? ] (]) 00:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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::It's not, that was the supposed edit after a topic ban. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 00:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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::::Regarding your request that I stay off your talk page, request denied. I am not going to let you use this page as a place to attack me where I cannot respond. You have called me antisemetic. Please show, with diffs, which of my edits you are referring to, and exactly which words of mine that you claim are antisemitic. --] (]) 04:21, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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:::::When did I call you antisemitic? Now get off my talk page, again. You don't like not being able to respond? How do I think I feel when you post your ramblings? You need to stop stalking me. That is your problem. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 04:26, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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::::::As long as you talk about me here, I will reply here, so you might as well stop asking. You called my edits antisemitic here.and Bishonen, one of our most respected admins, commented on it here. --] (]) 04:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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::::::: Can you not read? See what I wrote above. Last warning. I told you to stay off my talk page. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 04:59, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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::::::::Please see ]. You can't "ban" people from your talk page. We generally respect requests to stay off, when there is not a legitimate reason to come back. So, perhaps stop giving Guy Macon reasons to come back? <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 11:27, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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{{od}} ] Since you hatted some of the AE stuff, can you hat Guy Macon's list of diffs, since that is not part of the complaint since there was no violation of the block. I feel many people are reading His list of diffs and are thinking I violated the TBAN and that might be one reason why they are proposing a six month extension. Otherwise I have no other reason for it other than filing an AE appeal. Thanks. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 18:46, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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:You did vio the tban ("topic" still means topic, even though you got off on a technicality) and every time you mentioned Sanders and the Sanders article you continued to violate your topic ban. You seem reasonably intelligent, therefore, I find it dubious that you are still claiming to not understand what a tban really means. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 18:55, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
::No, the ban notice on my page when it was first posted was defective. It was then modified. I've never been tban before and I read the notice. It specifically said article, and the notice said if it says article unless it says otherwise, it needs to say explicitly. Why do you think I was unblocked by Spartaz? Read above. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 19:00, 2 March 2016 (UTC)


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:::You were unblocked because the blocking editor didn't pay attention to the chain of events and shouldn't have blocked you to begin with. It had nothing to do with what the admin imposing the tban did or didn't do. But, I have to say that while I generally will give editors benefit of the doubt (also known as AGF) when it comes to explanations, I don't believe your explanation that you didn't understand what a ''topic'' ban is and that it doesn't include the talk page. I don't believe you because you've been here a while and know how things work around here. I also don't believe you because, from the get-go, you have been looking for loopholes to get out of the tban and are blaming everyone and everything but yourself. In my extensive experience with human nature, people who do nothing for their defense other than look for loopholes and blame others are typically guilty. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 14:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
::::No, as I've said earlier, I've never been blocked before and the ban said article and I read the section and it said everything else must be said explicitly. And the whole point in blocking is to avoid disruption so why should it include a talk page and posting to the talk page is indeed what we want to encourage. So why should it be blocked? As for loopholes, you can disagree but if something is not illegal then it's legal. My defense was in my first paragraph. I satisfied to what I thought was the requirement for posting my edit why I felt my edit was not a violation and why I should not have been blocked. I certainly don't see a reason for a six month extension. ] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 15:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)


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In the bright pink box at the top of the page you'll see ''Enforcement requests and statements in response to them may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator''. This word limit includes your responses to other editors and you've gone way, way over 500 words. Please adjust your statement and responses to meet this word limit in the next day. It's generally better for the author to edit their statement rather than have an arbitration clerk or admin do the editing for you. Thanks. <font face="Papyrus" size="3" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 21:59, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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: How am I to answer individuals if I have to keep to some limit when they can just continue and pile on? For some reason daring to appeal a block is now grounds for an extension and I don't think that's fair.] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 22:03, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
::] I modified my section but I still don't know why they are talking about a six month ban. What did I do other than go to ae appeal? And also coffee is involved.] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 13:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
:::], I can't read the minds of other administrators but I'm guessing that some of them see disputes, identify an editor(s) they think is primarily responsible for the disruption and think if they remove him/her from the situation temporarily, the disruption will end. It's not the call I would make but I think I'm involved in this debate as I have expressed an opinion on how I think it should be resolved (accepting Sanders' self-identification that he is Jewish). I'm baffled why this has turned into such a big debate.
:::Thanks for modifying the length of your statement. Actually, appropriate word limits is a discussion that is currently being debated by the arbitrators but at this point, I think it's best to adhere to the guidelines. Any changes that might be made are at some point in the future and they might decide to stick with the guidelines as they are right now. <font face="Papyrus" size="3" color="#800080">]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">] ]</font></sup> 16:53, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
::::] thank you for replying, firstly, Coffee posted in the uninvolved section if that means anything. So, what am I to do? Why should I be banned for six months? If you look at the ANI report Guy filed, others have pointed out a possible boomerang, or just pointed out his own actions, and I would ask to read the Encyclopedia Britannica free online for Sanders and see what it says, but again regardless, what policy did I violate to warrant an extension and if I do get a ban extension isn't that an overreach of admin powers? I'm just baffled and perplexed and perhaps that's why Malik said the things he said because quite frankly I'm at my wit's end at this point too. Coffee says I'm not dropping the stick, but that was yesterday at around 2 PM, even though yesterday at around 2 PM I wasn't technically banned from the talk page due to his faulty ban, All this was due to his faulty ban template. And editors here have to walk on eggshells around admins because they say the wrong thing some admins block them. But I don't deserve to be banned for six months, I didn't do anything to deserve it. If anything Guy should be blocked. Look at his edits. He makes up policy (not a .PDF file of unknown origin) and bullies other editors into following his way, he owns the page and doesn't let any other editors edit unless they follow his opinion. If people are worried about the reputation of Misplaced Pages, it's because of him, not because of Malik and myself. And you can still share that it would not be your call, that is allowed.] <sup><font color="Green">]</font></sup> 17:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Sir Joseph,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Sir Joseph,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Sir Joseph,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

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Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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