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			== Regarding Al-Bukhari. ==
	==thank you for help on Let's Marry!==
	Thank you for help on Lets Marry article. ] (]) 19:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
	==Slither.io==
	Hi C.Fred, I was wondering if you could protect the ] redirect I made from being turned into a full article for now. It has been covered by a reliable source, ], and there may be more articles about it, but I think it is ] for a full article on the subject and thus I feel it should be kept a redirect. ] (]) 21:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

			Hello threre, regarding my edits on '''Al-Bukhari''' article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? ] (]) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
	:{{reply to\|Capcapandgengen}} Where do you see any reason for a redirect? Just because two products are similar doesn't mean the non-notable one should redirect to the notable one. They are published by two different companies; the only connection between the two is the reviewer's comparison. —''']''' (]) 22:30, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

	:~~And~~ I ~~have~~ ~~!voted~~ ~~delete~~ at ]. —''']''' (]) 23:37, 15 ~~April~~ ~~2016~~ (UTC)		:@] You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —''']''' (]) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
			::What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then ] comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. ] (]) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@] I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking ''administrative action'' related to the article, I am not wading into the ''content discussions'' related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —''']''' (]) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Hello ==
	::I see your point, so for the moment I've changed the redirect's target to Miniclip (). ] (]) 04:09, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

			I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay ] (]) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:@] The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —''']''' (]) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
	Hi C fred please can you change proclaimed north cyprus to 20 July 1974 because Fazil Kucuk was the first former president of the invaded cyprus and we celebrate it on 20 july with turkish fighter planes doing shows i downt know how to do it thanks <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			::"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity ] (]) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too ] (]) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::@] What part of the ] instructions is unclear? —''']''' (]) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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	:{{mention\|1hello12321}} No, I can't, because there are no ] that support the claim. Kucuk is listed a Vice President of the Republic of Cyprus; nowhere in his article does it mention that he was President of Northern Cyprus. Further, the TRNC Ministry of Foreign Affairs states, in a source cited in the article, that independence was proclaimed on 15 November 1983. Turkey may have invaded on 20 July 1974—and that's probably a good day for Turkey to do flyovers and other military activities—but that doesn't mean that the declaration of independence gets backdated to that date. —''']''' (]) 16:39, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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	Ok thanks for your help! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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	Sorry c fred there was a mistake fazil was actually the first president in 1974 please change it Link:https://en.wikipedia.org/Faz%C4%B1l_K%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:48, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	why did you deleate my wiki it was about a website <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:38, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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	:{{mention\|Isaiah James Patton}} Because there was nothing in the article to indicate that the website is significant or important. For a website to have an article, it must meet the notability criteria at ]. —''']''' (]) 21:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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	::{{mention\|C.Fred}} but there was a parragraph about its significant
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	:::{{mention\|Isaiah James Patton}} No, there wasn't. There were a few sentences about features. There was nothing about reviews, coverage in the press, awards, or anything else that would meet the notability criteria. —''']''' (]) 21:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
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	::::{{mention\|C.Fred}} can I get a copy of it back so I can wook on it
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	:::::{{mention\|Isaiah James Patton}} Yes, I'll restore the text into your sandbox. Be advised that you're working a very slippery slope, writing about your own website: if the article turns into a promotion for your website, it could be deleted as blatant advertising. —''']''' (]) 21:53, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

	== why? ==

	why has my page 'MeDugOut' been deleted? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:15, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:{{mention\|Joel Evetts}} First, because it's a duplicate of ]; there's no need for two of the same article. The underlying reason for deletion, and why Medugout is tagged, is for failing to assert that the subject is a significant person. Just having a Youtube channel or other website doesn't make somebody notable; not even having 1,000 followers is significant. —''']''' (]) 23:18, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

	what classes as being significant then? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:{{mention\|Joel Evetts}} See ] and ]. For his website, see ]. —''']''' (]) 23:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

	== Palliative Care ==

	Hi I edited the Palliative Care page, but it looks like you undid all of my revisions. I am not sure why this happened??? Please advise, thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:41, 17 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:{{mention\|PCnurse}} Adding 8,000+ characters to the article is not "edited spelling errors". Please discuss your changes at ] and make sure there's consensus for them. —''']''' (]) 03:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

	Sorry, I am new to this wiki editing. I am a grad student, trying to make edits to the page. So did you delete all my edits? How can I get them back to "discuss my changes at Talk: Palliative Care". <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:50, 17 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	Thanks for the links. Do I have to get permission from an article "owner"? Also, since you undid my revisions I can't see them??? (it took me hours, especially all the citations). I saved multiple times as "content editing" and then my last revision was spelling <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:59, 17 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:{{tps}}{{ping\|PCnurse}} Your work is kept safe and sound on . <span style="text-shadow:.1em .1em .2em #000">]</span> <sup>]</sup> <small>(Please {{]}} when replying)</small> 04:01, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

	How do I submit my major page edit for review? Without it just being undone? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:26, 17 April 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	@C.Fred how do I submit my major page edit for review? Without it just being undone?] (]) 04:30, 17 April 2016 (UTC)PCnurse

	:{{mention\|PCnurse}} Part of the problem was that the revisions were so major. You're better off to work in smaller chunks so it's easier to see what's being changed. And there's no way to guarantee it won't be undone. As I said, the best thing is to go to the article's talk page and explain the changes ("I want to add X based on source Y"; "I want to change K to L because of what's in source M"). Best case, other editors say it's a great change and you should go ahead and make it. Next best, they have some minor improvements to suggest, and you go ahead and make the change. Worst case from your perspective, they have objections ("That contradicts what source Z elsewhere in the article says"; "That doesn't follow the Manual of Style"), and you have to keep discussing or back down from that change. —''']''' (]) 12:46, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

	== Andrew Peach ==

	Most of the links in the ] article are dead and some refs are not cited. How can these be flagged for deletion? There is a comment on his talk page which suggests the article is purely for self promotion. There seems to be "too much" information for suck a minor person. ] made lots of cut backs a few years ago and I have not heard Peach reading the news om the station for a while. He was in the same pool of freelancers as Ricky Salmon, Fran Godfrey and Fenella Fudge. He has also not presented on BBC 5 Live since his stint covering Stephen Nolan. ] (]) 11:49, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

	:{{mention\|RadioAnorakUK}} Dead references don't get deleted, but you can tag them with {{tl\|dead link}} so others know they need repaired. Or, you can fix them yourself by finding na archived version of the page. Any material that isn't supported by a reference can be flagged with the {{tl\|citation needed}} template. —''']''' (]) 16:59, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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	I wonder if you could have another word with {{user\|Iistal}}. He has resumed reverting at ], this time with an edit summary that he is not discussing because "." I'm not asking for a block at this time. But he might listen to reasoning better with you. Thanks. ] (]) 19:39, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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	Hello, I've noticed that you reverted my edits in the Flag of Syria and Coat of Arms.
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	I'll start with the coat of arms first. I know that we need to change the picture not remove it, but I can't upload pictures. Every time I try to upload it doesn't let me. And I do have the picture.
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	Second, the Flag of Syria article. What is in their is truly false and biased. The two stars flag DOES NOT represent the loyalist of the regime or Assad. And we don't want to use the opposition flag as a new flag to Syria. It's used as a symbol for the revolution, just like as a symbol to a party. I work in the Syrian Interim Government, what am I giving to you is official. If you ask the Syrians today, the majority of them want the two-stars flag and sees it as a representation for the people of Syria, even the FSA and those who support it. So please, let us be accurate. After all it's our country and our revolution, gentlemen!] (]) 23:43, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
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	:: Sir, How is that a biased attitude if I work for the opposition, I am not defending the revolution flag, I am defending the Syrian flag. I do understand the policies her, but I kinda see that some users here are the ones who are radical and biased, and they keep edit warring. I don't mean to attack anybody, I'm just keeping you aware that some users here are being biased.] (]) 01:54, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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	:::{{mention\|JaberEl-Hour}} Precisely because you work for the opposition! Your professional connection to the subject is viewed as inhibiting your neutrality toward the subject—or at least as giving the appearance that your edits will not be neutral. —''']''' (]) 01:56, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

			This is an English sweet so why do you feel American English should apply ] (]) 12:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
	:::: My edits are being natural and accurate when I put the Syrian flag as the flag, and I delete the part where it says that only loyalist people rise this flag. Let me notify you that there is an official opposition group who only rise this flag that you relate to as "Assad's Flag". You can find it in the link below. Also, let me remind you that the flag is also raised by people who are neutral and don't side with anyone. So let's be accurate, and we can include a part where it says that the opposition held areas rise this flag to distinguish themselves from the government.
	https://7al.me/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/%D9%A6%D9%A61.jpg

	~~It's~~ ~~called~~ the ~~National~~ ~~Coordination~~ ~~Committee~~ ~~for~~ ~~Democratic~~ ~~Change~~. ~~Thank you.~~] (]) 02:03, 22 ~~April~~ ~~2016~~ (UTC)		:@] Because the article is written in American English. —''']''' (]) 14:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

			== modification cancelled ==
	::::: Also, let me remind you something, Syria is our homeland. We rise the flag that we want. It's not America's 51st State. Thank you.] (]) 02:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

	~~::::::Comments~~ ~~like~~ ~~that~~ ~~are~~ ~~precisely~~ ~~what~~ ~~causes~~ ~~other~~ ~~editors~~ to ~~conclude~~ ~~your~~ ~~edits are not neutral. —'''~~]~~'''~~ (]) ~~02:~~17, 22 ~~April~~ ~~2016~~ (UTC)		Hi, can I ask you why my change was cancelled by you? ] (]) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

			:@] For obviously going against consensus and concealing relevant information from the article. —''']''' (]) 17:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
	::::::: I am a busy man. I came here to fix the huge mistakes that are caused by Misplaced Pages about Syria. As Syrians, the Interim Government encouraged us to edit the articles in Misplaced Pages and fix those kind of mistakes. Syrians should be the ones who participate more to Syrian-related topics I believe. Because we know more about our country. I don't think you're going to teach me what is my flag and what's not my flag. I know more than you do. You are saying I am not neutral, because I am the one who work with the OPPOSITION is defending the "ASSAD'S REGIME" FLAG. Think about it that is non sense to call me unnatural.] (]) 02:23, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
			::I understand your point, however, I believe the information I previously removed, and which was later reinserted by you, is quite irrelevant. There does not appear to be any connection between the police officer's skin colour and the homicide committed by him. ] (]) 17:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@] This has been discussed before, and consensus is that it is rather relevant. —''']''' (]) 17:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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	::::::::No. You said you are not neutral, but you admitted you work with the opposition. —''']''' (]) 02:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

	~~:::::::::~~ I ~~work~~ ~~with~~ ~~the~~ ~~'''OPPOSITION~~ ~~AND~~ ~~NOT~~ ~~THE~~ ~~REGIME'''.~~ I ~~suggest~~ ~~you~~ go ~~and~~ ~~look~~ ~~which~~ ~~flag~~ I am ~~defending~~.] (]) 02:27, 22 ~~April~~ ~~2016~~ (UTC)		I recalled that you previously blocked this ip for edit warring and has resumed edit Warring using an different ip see ] ] (]) 01:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

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Regarding Al-Bukhari.

Hello threre, regarding my edits on Al-Bukhari article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? Bakkouz (talk) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bakkouz You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —C.Fred (talk) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then User:شاه عباس comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. Bakkouz (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bakkouz I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking administrative action related to the article, I am not wading into the content discussions related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —C.Fred (talk) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello

I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay Wwew345t (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@Wwew345t The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity Wwew345t (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too Wwew345t (talk) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Wwew345t What part of the WP:Deletion review instructions is unclear? —C.Fred (talk) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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This is an English sweet so why do you feel American English should apply Sharnadd (talk) 12:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sharnadd Because the article is written in American English. —C.Fred (talk) 14:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

modification cancelled

Hi, can I ask you why my change was cancelled by you? Slancio2 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Slancio2 For obviously going against consensus and concealing relevant information from the article. —C.Fred (talk) 17:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

I understand your point, however, I believe the information I previously removed, and which was later reinserted by you, is quite irrelevant. There does not appear to be any connection between the police officer's skin colour and the homicide committed by him. Slancio2 (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Slancio2 This has been discussed before, and consensus is that it is rather relevant. —C.Fred (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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I recalled that you previously blocked this ip for edit warring and has resumed edit Warring using an different ip see Special:Contributions/74.87.19.246 Untamed1910 (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)