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	Can you help me: I would like to create my user name under Natalia Toreeva and also if I click on Google this User name I will be directed to http://en.wikipedia.org/Natalia_Toreeva. How I can do it? I can't find this info. Currently my User is Toreeva.

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			==Draft==

			This article is not about myself, but to show that the info in the ''Unofficial art in Russia'' article and in another articles, is contributed by the ''real person'' who was part of that movement. The article needs just to be improved and submitted in the format that appropriate to pass the requirements. But if you or someone will not have time, or for any other reason, to work on it, that's OK, even though it is the lost for the history of the Russian art, if look at the bigger picture. ] (]) 16:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
	This is not an article but my biography. I'm doing my input about art in Russia, and I need to include my name there, so people know who is writing the articles. Also it is not finished yet. I just checking how links are working, bec. this is my first try. Thanks, Natalia

			:However, creating page ] or improving pages like ] definitely could if that is your concern. ] (]) 05:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
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			: Hello ], thanks for suggestion to move addition material about Draft to the Sandbox, so I did. Thanks for your input.] (]) 15:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

			: Hello ], thanks for looking into it!Toreeva 23:36, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
	I don't understand why you want to delete? I'm looking into the same kind of the articles the artists created, so you can look at those examples: Anatoly Belkin, Mikhail Chemiakin etc.

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	I have moved this to a draft called ] as perhaps there is notability, but when I look for online references I see none. Once you can support the page with a claim of importance, and reliable independent and substantial references on the person, then it can be considered again as an article. Most who write about themselves here are disappointed with the result, as it is usually deleted or edited. ] (]) 09:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
			Hello ] (]), would you correct in the Article Natalia Toreeva the year in the references #6. It said 8 November 1920. Thanks for your input. Toreeva 04:39, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
			:The date reads 8 November 1920. Is it supposed to be a different date? That date comes up when I check the source. Please let me know. Thanks. ] (]) 05:02, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

			If you look into the article, it is July 1971, so this date should be. Or you can leave the path as it was before the changes: http://smena-online.ru/stories/leto-71 Thanks a lot for help with your editing! Toreeva 05:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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			It looks OK now. I don't have any request for this article. Thanks! But I have a question: In the Soviet Unof. Art article, I found the way to connect en.wikipedia and ru.wikipedia if the artists have both, it is valuable information. For example, one artist just had exhibition in museum in St. Petersburg, and I'm going to write her to include this info to the ru wikipedia which she has, so we can read it outside of the Russia. But I don't like in (ru). Do you know the way how to avoid and to have only (ru) in this connection of both wikipedia's? If you don't know, or don't have time, it is OK, at least it works. I just wanted to improve it. Thanks!Toreeva 22:04, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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			Hello ] (]), I found the way to avoid extra for the ru wikipedia link, so I have only (ru) for it. You can see it as an example for E. Rukhin artist in the Soviet Nonc. Art article. Thanks.Toreeva 02:55, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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			* If it would be something big, I would ask independent editor to do so, but I just moved around, for example, to move ISBN number from one section to another. But thanks for your comments.] (]) 00:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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			::] (]), Than you have to delete all other people by your approach. Stop doing retaliation. And do professional approach. Regards, ] (]) 20:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
			:: And in " ..Art of Russia - did you check where N.Toreeva's name included in St. Petersburg's encyclopedia as the student of School of Sidlin"? Why you need it in citation, where it just shown the art work? Oh, it just shows again, you can't read in Russian. But to make the wise decision you have to know and understand Russian lang. and Russian art. Your retaliation attitude will not help. Stop doing what you are doing. Regards, ] (]) 20:50, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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			* ] (]), I don't have any COI you are trying to put here. I try to help to preserve the HISTORY, but what is your goal behind retaliation for any course? Even if you will delete any name or art movement, you will delete it only from Misplaced Pages, but not from the HISTORY itself. So don't be proud of yourself, you do nothing, just damage the truth in Misplaced Pages. And stop discussion what I should do. It is not my interest. Good luck in your life. Enjoy. Regards, ] (]) 22:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
	Hello ], Thanks for your feedback on possible improvement! I will try to follow your suggestions. Thanks, Natalia T.] (]) 18:19, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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			* No further discussion is needed. Waste time and energy. Regards, ] (]) 14:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
			* The article "Natalia Toreeva" has been deleted (11/9/2019), so NO need any further discussion about it.] (]) 14:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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			* ] (]), since you did not look into imdb.com as References, where the information is included (in English), I added Ru Misplaced Pages, where the same info about the film is included. Hope someone can read it in Russian. All info that included there can be verified. Just take your time to read or see the film. Regards, ] (]) 19:46, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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			::: The article about film has the same info in Ru Misplaced Pages I included there. If you think it is not reliable sources, than why the article exists and accepted by Ru Misplaced Pages? Probably someone wrote in both lang. and included the same info in both Ru and En wikipedia. I can include there another site: https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/44339/ where included also the info about film, cast and crew (in Russian), but I am sure you will not accepted it for any reason as well. So, whatever you want to do, do it, I don't have time and willingness to discuss it further. Regards, ] (]) 21:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
			::::The Russian Misplaced Pages has no connection to the English Misplaced Pages and sourcing standards are stronger on the English version, ] is a Russian equivalent of IMDb and is not a reliable source, because it is user edited. ] (]) 21:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
			:::::But in En wikipedia page you have already IMDb, so why you not accept it as the source? Stop attacking me. And write that you don't accept whatever is in Ru Misplaced Pages and Ru sources. They are official sources. Than I will submit to investigate it to verify if it is correct your statement to reject any of my input.] (]) 23:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
			::::: And I don't want to communicate with you anymore. You have only one goal in your mind - reject my input by any way. Stop staking me. I am done. I have no interest in any discussion.] (]) 23:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
			::::::IMDb is used as an external link in that article, not a reference. If you would like independent advice you can ask at the ] or ]. ] (]) 08:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
			* I am done with it. Good luck.] (]) 17:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
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			* ] (]),] (]), If you would follow the problem I have from the beginning, you would understand the problem. People asked me to do contributions to Unofficial art in Russia article, because in Russia almost no one knows English, and the Art Movement of 1970-80 just started to be opened to the public. So, it would be a good info for the scholars. So, I did my input and also created the article about the author, so people would know that it is a real person behind that article and art movement. And editor suggested to use Help desk to help in editing. So, I did, and they started deleting very important info from the article, as the education, membership, participating in exhibitions etc, nothing left. He also started deleting in other articles where the name was mentioned. I asked him why he deleted if in Ru wikipedia someone included the name, he said - ru wikipedia is not reliable. All deletion was done as not reliable sources and promotion. I have real docs where the art works were accepted in 5 museums, the person is the member of Artists Trade Union of Russia, Russian database, where shown the real films with her name is in the titles. If the editor(s) would know Russian lang and art of that time, it would not be a problem, bec. all docs and citations are real. Or to see the movie(s) and see the titles there. But because the editor(s) don't know Russian lang, it is easier to just delete the article with any course saying not reliable. And because of it, I submitted complains, so that editors started in my opinion, retaliation, voting, so the article was deleted. And I told them that you can delete the name from wikipedia, but not from the History. I am not going to fight for restore, it is just a shame to use power of editor(s) to do whatever they want to do. That's why I don't want to be a part of wikipedia anymore and I am not planning to participate in any future contribution.That's why I wanted to delete my account in wikipedia, and the same editor deleted that request. So, because wikipedia don't permit to delete my account, I am not planning to participate in my contribution. I am done. Thank you for your time.] (]) 18:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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			* This is an example why I don't want to do my contributions anymore. If you look into article "Soviet Nonconformist Art", where I did my contributions, specifically in St. Petersburg and "School of Sidlin" sections, the name of the school and his students were included in the following citation - http://www.encspb.ru/object/2855704621?lc=ru. This citation is from St. Petersburg Russian encyclopedia and it was deleted. Another citations also were deleted. And the name N.Toreeva as artist was deleted at all. All under "not reliable sources". You can look it at 17:36, 22 November 2019. And after I mentioned it, Theroadislong and others put it as I am attacking the editors. Who can verify the correctness of his deletion, and what is behind of it, personal satisfaction, politics, retaliation, bias etc? But definitely not the good faith? Nobody, trying even look into this matter. That's why, I am not going fight because I don't see to find the "truth" is the goal here. This is an example of wrong doing, and I don't want to be part of it. Thanks for your time. My best regards,] (]) 17:29, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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			::* '''I stop my participation'''. It is annoying for you, but distraction for me, so I thought to give at least one example of wrong doing by Misplaced Pages's editor(s), to delete the content w/o knowledge of the original language the citations are written, without knowledge of the Soviet Art, and without any support of others to resolve the problem. Happy Thanksgiving and X-Mas!] (]) 19:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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			* ] (]), stop telling me what to do. This is not promotion or ad. Don't you see that your citation was put 2 times repeatedly (30 and 31)? That's why I substituted it by another, not poorly but the good one. Oh..] (]) 17:09, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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			::Refs Toreeva replaced it with:
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			::In my opinion, this situation needs to be escalated to ]. --] (]) 17:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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			* ] (]), you put already your opinion to your Talk page suggesting already to Theroadislong to do the same. Nothing new. Instead to be objective, and to bring the editor(s) who knows Russian lang and culture, it is easier to just delete it. What a shame for Misplaced Pages to have these kind of editors who use their editor's power to be biases and w/o good faith. You have to be supportive that I found another citations that can be used for the article. What is the disappointment.] (]) 18:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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	===Status and Advice===
	As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article. The immediate question isn't notability, but promotionalism. If you want to rewritethe article, try to do it as follows:
	# write one or two paragraphs about her general biography , education, and any long-term appointments or positions.
	# List the ''major'' exhibitions in which she had works, including only those in major museums and the like., not everything possible
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	::and yes, you can use references in both English and Russian--and you should do that. ''']''' (]) 19:43, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
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	I'm banning you indefinitely from my talkpage, as you seem only here to self-promote, rather than building the encyclopedia. ] (]) 17:54, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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			:For years, you have engaged in self-promotion on Misplaced Pages, and have continued despite promises to stop. No more. ] ] 20:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
			{{unblock-un reviewed \| 1=Supart_41 \| reason=Wrong reason to block \| decline={{Decline reason here}} ] ]] 08:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)}} I am not going to convince you why you block my input, it is waste time, if you did not see it before. But main problem is that you have editor(s) who don't know Russian lang. to read the citations and Soviet Culture to estimate the value of my contributions. Small example of it: if you see the article and "Publications and late Exhibition" section the citation (65) shows "failed verification", but if you read citation there 2 names correctly mentioned (ru:Анатолия Басина и Наталии Тореевой..) meaning that the editor can't read Russian text, so how editing can be done w/o knowledge the lang.? That's why easier to tell that the article is self promotion which is not true. But suggestion to use another user name is correct, bec. it puts off the editor(s) to hunting my real name.
			: Also you mentioned the "Compensation for contribution". Who should compensate? There is NO business or any ad for the company in the article. No Company even exists in the article, because it is the Art movement of 1970-80 I contributed in the article, so "NO" is the answer for this question.
			: If I will contribute in future, I am willing to contribute only to the Art in general, specifically to the Soviet time, which I am familiar with before my emigration to USA. Or any items written using the Russian citations but need some corrections. Or will not contribute at all. Thank you for your time.] (]) 16:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

			{{unblock reviewed \| 1=It was not necessary to be blocked. \| decline = ] is not going to get you unblocked. You still have not addressed the reason for the block, the spam/advertising edits you made. You need to address these, NOT the conduct of other editors. ] (]) 19:28, 4 December 2019 (UTC)}} I forgot to add the reason why I should be unblocked. I did not do any damage or disruption to the article. I did not do anything wrong, but because my criticism of the editor(s) who used their editors power to put me out of my contributions due to their personal or political interests w/o knowledge of Russian language and culture, they tried to block me. It was not for the incorrect content of the articles in my contributions or promotional reason, but for my criticism of editor(s) actions. That's why I ask to be unblocked.] (]) 18:21, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
	Hi Toreeva. Thank you for contributing to Misplaced Pages. I noticed that you have uploaded quite a few images as well, whose copyright status is unclear. It would be helpful if you provide some information. Are you by any chance related to ]? (are you Natalia Toreeva herself/a friend/family member/employer/employee/student etc.) This is important for us. You can reply here on this page. In addition, I would request you to read the ] notice I have provided above and familiarise yourself with the guidelines. Thank You. --] (]) 00:19, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

			:], right after being told...
	Hello ], I don't understand about all questions related to the article, so only any person can write about the 'dead' person but not who are still alive? I am doing the contributions to wiki several years already in the diff. articles about Russia. Now I'm doing my input to the "Unofficial art in Russia", about the "School of Sidlin", "Sterligov Group", "Arefiev Circle", and others. I'm part of the "School of Sidlin" art group, and at that time of 1970s-1980s, this art movement was unofficial, and many artists have to emigrate, including me. I almost knew all the artists from another art groups like Sterligov, Arefiev, etc, and because many of them are died, I feel it is my obligation to show to the art world about the art Russian movement at that time, which eventually brought to fall the Soviet Union in 1991. I'm also 75 years old, and from our group we have alive 4 artists left alive, and since in Russia almost no one speak/write in English, I feel that I have to do my input. This movement is under study in art museums in Russia and abroad, and they need the information from the 'real' person who is not 'dead' yet. I'm not going to promote any person or any art group, I just want to show the names of the artists/groups and their role in the art movement of that time.
			::'''"] is not going to get you unblocked. You still have not addressed the reason for the block, the spam/advertising edits you made. You need to address these, NOT the conduct of other editors."'''
	If I'm doing my input in that section and you ask to give more details/references about those artists/group, how come you restricted this my article that is written to support that section in the unofficial art in Russia? I even asked the State Museum "Tsarskoselskaya Collection" who has the art works many of the artists, the permission to use their museum name in this article. So, it is more just about Natalia Toreeva, it is the art movement of 1970s-1980s. And it is shame not to give the permission to have this article in wiki encyclopedia. I agree to have some editing to the text, but to reject it, it is wrong from the art history point of view. I don't represent any art groups, I don't receive any payment from any one, I just follow my passion in art, and the history of art, specifically in Russian art, and to give any information about the Russian art at that time. It is the missing part of the history. And we have less and less artists alive who can really tell the story. For example, in Arefiev's group, only one person is still alive..
			:...you decided that it was a good idea to respond by criticizing other users, claiming you did nothing wrong. and not addressing the spam/advertising edits you made? ಠ_ಠ

			:In my opinion the time has come to revoke Toreeva's talk page access. he us either ] or ] to follow the simplest of instructions. --] (]) 20:51, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
	Regarding the copyrights: I included 5 drawings and I also submitted the copyright info about them. They are all copyrighted, and I sent email about any info they needed. You can verify, for example:
	#2016042210018206 ("The new Beginning", 1992), ...10017118 ("Song of Songs", 1997), ...10016815 ("The End of USSR", 1992),
	...10015932 ("Pantocrator", 1992), 10017369 ("Song of Songs", 1999).
	You can verify with them about if they are looking into my emails, with copyright info, but I thought they are still busy. You can verify on their progress These drawings should not have any problems since they are copyrighted and have all the info when they were submitted to wiki.

	~~Hope~~ I ~~answer~~ on ~~all~~ ~~your~~ ~~concerns. Hope~~ you ~~will~~ ~~see~~ ~~behind~~ ~~not~~ the ~~person who wants to promote the artists~~/~~group,~~ ~~but~~ ~~who~~ ~~wants to~~ ~~make~~ the ~~input~~ to ~~give~~ ~~the~~ ~~knowledge to~~ the ~~world~~ ~~about~~ ~~the~~ ~~Russian~~ ~~art~~ ~~movement~~ of ~~1970-1980s.~~ ~~Hope~~ ~~you~~ ~~understand~~ it.] (]) 01:47, 30 ~~April~~ ~~2016~~ (UTC)		] (]), Do you think to talk like "the spam/advertising edits you made" is the right way you talk with the contributor? What a shame Misplaced Pages should have and those who involved in it.] (]) 22:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
			:Good point Guy. Seeing as they clearly are ignoring the spam edits at this point, I've revoked talk page access. No need to continue with this. ] (]) 23:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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New/old information for the Draft:Natalia Toreeva

This section is moved to a Sandbox: User:Toreeva/sandbox. Toreeva (talk) 14:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Draft

This article is not about myself, but to show that the info in the Unofficial art in Russia article and in another articles, is contributed by the real person who was part of that movement. The article needs just to be improved and submitted in the format that appropriate to pass the requirements. But if you or someone will not have time, or for any other reason, to work on it, that's OK, even though it is the lost for the history of the Russian art, if look at the bigger picture. Toreeva (talk) 16:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

However, creating page Osip Sidlin or improving pages like Kazimir Malevich definitely could if that is your concern. My very best wishes (talk) 05:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello Softlavender, thanks for suggestion to move addition material about Draft to the Sandbox, so I did. Thanks for your input.Toreeva (talk) 15:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello hta94, thanks for looking into it!Toreeva 23:36, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Article

Hello Lacypaperclip (talk), would you correct in the Article Natalia Toreeva the year in the references #6. It said 8 November 1920. Thanks for your input. Toreeva 04:39, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

The date reads 8 November 1920. Is it supposed to be a different date? That date comes up when I check the source. Please let me know. Thanks. Lacypaperclip (talk) 05:02, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

If you look into the article, it is July 1971, so this date should be. Or you can leave the path as it was before the changes: http://smena-online.ru/stories/leto-71 Thanks a lot for help with your editing! Toreeva 05:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Done You are welcome. Let me know if I can help with any other edit requests. Lacypaperclip (talk) 19:39, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

It looks OK now. I don't have any request for this article. Thanks! But I have a question: In the Soviet Unof. Art article, I found the way to connect en.wikipedia and ru.wikipedia if the artists have both, it is valuable information. For example, one artist just had exhibition in museum in St. Petersburg, and I'm going to write her to include this info to the ru wikipedia which she has, so we can read it outside of the Russia. But I don't like in (ru). Do you know the way how to avoid and to have only (ru) in this connection of both wikipedia's? If you don't know, or don't have time, it is OK, at least it works. I just wanted to improve it. Thanks!Toreeva 22:04, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Hello Lacypaperclip (talk), I found the way to avoid extra for the ru wikipedia link, so I have only (ru) for it. You can see it as an example for E. Rukhin artist in the Soviet Nonc. Art article. Thanks.Toreeva 02:55, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

As per the talk page of Natalia Toreeva you are strongly advised not to directly edit the article. See Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. You may request corrections on or suggest contenton the Talk page for independent editors to review, or contact us if the issue is urgent. Theroadislong (talk) 21:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

If it would be something big, I would ask independent editor to do so, but I just moved around, for example, to move ISBN number from one section to another. But thanks for your comments.12.50.32.250 (talk) 00:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
And if you feel that the article needs any editing, please help with it. Thank you.12.50.32.250 (talk) 03:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

November 2019 A

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Aleksei Yuryevich German, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 20:17, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Theroadislong (talk), Than you have to delete all other people by your approach. Stop doing retaliation. And do professional approach. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 20:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

And in " ..Art of Russia - did you check where N.Toreeva's name included in St. Petersburg's encyclopedia as the student of School of Sidlin"? Why you need it in citation, where it just shown the art work? Oh, it just shows again, you can't read in Russian. But to make the wise decision you have to know and understand Russian lang. and Russian art. Your retaliation attitude will not help. Stop doing what you are doing. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 20:50, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Toreeva. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Soviet Nonconformist Art, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. It is extremely bad form to continue to promote yourself across Misplaced Pages with poor sources. Theroadislong (talk) 21:54, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Theroadislong (talk), I don't have any COI you are trying to put here. I try to help to preserve the HISTORY, but what is your goal behind retaliation for any course? Even if you will delete any name or art movement, you will delete it only from Misplaced Pages, but not from the HISTORY itself. So don't be proud of yourself, you do nothing, just damage the truth in Misplaced Pages. And stop discussion what I should do. It is not my interest. Good luck in your life. Enjoy. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 22:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

If you could try and stop attacking me and assume good faith for one minute (I have the best interests of Misplaced Pages at heart)...please could you list the three best sources for your own article Natalia Toreeva, the ones you consider to be in-depth and independent, it doesn't matter if they are in Russian or English. Theroadislong (talk) 20:12, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

No further discussion is needed. Waste time and energy. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 14:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
The article "Natalia Toreeva" has been deleted (11/9/2019), so NO need any further discussion about it.Toreeva (talk) 14:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

November 2019 B

Please stop adding unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did on Twenty Days Without War. This violates Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Theroadislong (talk) 15:34, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Theroadislong (talk), since you did not look into imdb.com as References, where the information is included (in English), I added Ru Misplaced Pages, where the same info about the film is included. Hope someone can read it in Russian. All info that included there can be verified. Just take your time to read or see the film. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 19:46, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Please understand that IMDb and Misplaced Pages are NOT reliable sources, we CANNOT use them in articles, whatever language they are written in! Theroadislong (talk) 19:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

The article about film has the same info in Ru Misplaced Pages I included there. If you think it is not reliable sources, than why the article exists and accepted by Ru Misplaced Pages? Probably someone wrote in both lang. and included the same info in both Ru and En wikipedia. I can include there another site: https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/44339/ where included also the info about film, cast and crew (in Russian), but I am sure you will not accepted it for any reason as well. So, whatever you want to do, do it, I don't have time and willingness to discuss it further. Regards, Toreeva (talk) 21:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

The Russian Misplaced Pages has no connection to the English Misplaced Pages and sourcing standards are stronger on the English version, KinoPoisk is a Russian equivalent of IMDb and is not a reliable source, because it is user edited. Theroadislong (talk) 21:43, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

But in En wikipedia page you have already IMDb, so why you not accept it as the source? Stop attacking me. And write that you don't accept whatever is in Ru Misplaced Pages and Ru sources. They are official sources. Than I will submit to investigate it to verify if it is correct your statement to reject any of my input.Toreeva (talk) 23:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

And I don't want to communicate with you anymore. You have only one goal in your mind - reject my input by any way. Stop staking me. I am done. I have no interest in any discussion.Toreeva (talk) 23:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

IMDb is used as an external link in that article, not a reference. If you would like independent advice you can ask at the Misplaced Pages:Help desk or Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Theroadislong (talk) 08:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

I am done with it. Good luck.Toreeva (talk) 17:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

You repeatedly attack good faith editors here. Despite your years of editing, you still fail to grasp the absolute basics of editing Misplaced Pages. User's do not require any specialist knowledge, all we do is report on what reliable sources have said about a subject, if there are no such sources then we cannot add the content. I am not retaliating, I sympathise with your quest to be published on Misplaced Pages but unless you can provide suitable sources it isn't going to happen and nobody including you has managed to find those sources yet. I wish you well in your artistic endeavours. Theroadislong (talk) 20:04, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

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November 2019 C

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:10, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I think Guy Macon lacked diplomacy in using that (standardized) warning. Nonetheless, I would encourage you to reconsider the way you interact with other editors.

You can ask that someone stop posting on your talk page. However, you cannot ask that others refrain from editing articles you started or contributed to (see Misplaced Pages:Ownership), and you cannot ask to be left alone while you do mistakes (see Misplaced Pages:Communication is required). Tigraan 12:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I see zero need for diplomacy when dealing with an editor who writes things like

"How 'low' you can go? Not me. Where is the purpose in your life, God has given you? Where is your integrity? You reached your destination. Have a peace in your decision"

and

"..unqualified editors (, , ) started deleting my input without good faith... I don't know what motive of using the editor's power is behind of it, but I tiered of this unqualified editing and unneeded discussion and accusations".

I know an Internet Flamer when I see one. These flamers have typically had some success at beating down their "enemies" with insults and aggression on Usenet, Facebook, Twitter, 4Chan and YouTube comments. When they fire up their flamethrowers on Misplaced Pages, they either quickly figure out that we don't allow such behavior and stop, or they get blocked. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Guy Macon (talk),Tigraan (talk), If you would follow the problem I have from the beginning, you would understand the problem. People asked me to do contributions to Unofficial art in Russia article, because in Russia almost no one knows English, and the Art Movement of 1970-80 just started to be opened to the public. So, it would be a good info for the scholars. So, I did my input and also created the article about the author, so people would know that it is a real person behind that article and art movement. And editor suggested to use Help desk to help in editing. So, I did, and they started deleting very important info from the article, as the education, membership, participating in exhibitions etc, nothing left. He also started deleting in other articles where the name was mentioned. I asked him why he deleted if in Ru wikipedia someone included the name, he said - ru wikipedia is not reliable. All deletion was done as not reliable sources and promotion. I have real docs where the art works were accepted in 5 museums, the person is the member of Artists Trade Union of Russia, Russian database, where shown the real films with her name is in the titles. If the editor(s) would know Russian lang and art of that time, it would not be a problem, bec. all docs and citations are real. Or to see the movie(s) and see the titles there. But because the editor(s) don't know Russian lang, it is easier to just delete the article with any course saying not reliable. And because of it, I submitted complains, so that editors started in my opinion, retaliation, voting, so the article was deleted. And I told them that you can delete the name from wikipedia, but not from the History. I am not going to fight for restore, it is just a shame to use power of editor(s) to do whatever they want to do. That's why I don't want to be a part of wikipedia anymore and I am not planning to participate in any future contribution.That's why I wanted to delete my account in wikipedia, and the same editor deleted that request. So, because wikipedia don't permit to delete my account, I am not planning to participate in my contribution. I am done. Thank you for your time.Toreeva (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

You say you are leaving a lot, but you never actually leave.

"I am done. I have no interest in any discussion." --Toreeva, 23:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
"I don't want to be a Contributor anymore to this 'charitable' org. I am done with it." --Toreeva, 17:34, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
"I am done with it" --Toreeva, 17:38, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
"I am done with it" --Toreeva, 17:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
"I am not planning to do the contributions anymore...I am done." --Toreeva, 19:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
"I don't want to continue the discussion. I don't see the respect and see only waste of time. I am out of it." --Toreeva, 03:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
"I am not planning to participate in my contribution. I am done." --Toreeva, 18:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

"In the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade;

And he carries the reminders, of every glove that laid him down,

or cut him till he cried out, in his anger and his shame;

'I am leaving, I am leaving', But the fighter still remains..."

--The Boxer by Simon & Garfunkel

Free clue: Go to your user page. Delete everything. Go to your user talk page. Delete everything. Log out of Misplaced Pages forever and never look at those two pages again.

Or you can stay, keep insulting people, and see what happens. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:45, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Stop Participation

Since I will stop my participation in Misplaced Pages, I am asking you not to include your input in this Talk page, because I am not planning to do my contributions, and I will not read any input you might want to include here. So, no more talk or discussion here. Thank you,Toreeva (talk) 18:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea who you are talking about. Are you asking everybody to not post to your talk page?

Again: Go to your user page. Delete everything. Go to your user talk page. Delete everything. Log out of Misplaced Pages forever and never look at those two pages again. Nobody will post anything to your talk page if you actually "stop your participation in Misplaced Pages" instead of just talking about it. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

This is an example why I don't want to do my contributions anymore. If you look into article "Soviet Nonconformist Art", where I did my contributions, specifically in St. Petersburg and "School of Sidlin" sections, the name of the school and his students were included in the following citation - http://www.encspb.ru/object/2855704621?lc=ru. This citation is from St. Petersburg Russian encyclopedia and it was deleted. Another citations also were deleted. And the name N.Toreeva as artist was deleted at all. All under "not reliable sources". You can look it at 17:36, 22 November 2019. And after I mentioned it, Theroadislong and others put it as I am attacking the editors. Who can verify the correctness of his deletion, and what is behind of it, personal satisfaction, politics, retaliation, bias etc? But definitely not the good faith? Nobody, trying even look into this matter. That's why, I am not going fight because I don't see to find the "truth" is the goal here. This is an example of wrong doing, and I don't want to be part of it. Thanks for your time. My best regards,Toreeva (talk) 17:29, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

In my experience, the best way to stop your participation in Misplaced Pages is to stop your participation in Misplaced Pages. I'm just saying. If you are unwilling to do that, could you please stop saying that you are leaving? It is getting to be really annoying. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:03, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I stop my participation. It is annoying for you, but distraction for me, so I thought to give at least one example of wrong doing by Misplaced Pages's editor(s), to delete the content w/o knowledge of the original language the citations are written, without knowledge of the Soviet Art, and without any support of others to resolve the problem. Happy Thanksgiving and X-Mas!Toreeva (talk) 19:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

This and this are not stopping participation. If you want to find another topic to edit, fine. If you want to keep trying to cite yourself or otherwise being disruptive and failing to assume good faith in areas where you have a conflict of interest, you need to stop participating. If you cannot stop such "participation," you will be made to stop. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:21, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

December 2019 A

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you use Misplaced Pages for promotion or advertising. Theroadislong (talk) 16:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Theroadislong (talk), stop telling me what to do. This is not promotion or ad. Don't you see that your citation was put 2 times repeatedly (30 and 31)? That's why I substituted it by another, not poorly but the good one. Oh..Toreeva (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit:

Revert:

Original Ref:

Refs Toreeva replaced it with:

Google translate:

In my opinion, this situation needs to be escalated to WP:ANI. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Guy Macon (talk), you put already your opinion to your Talk page suggesting already to Theroadislong to do the same. Nothing new. Instead to be objective, and to bring the editor(s) who knows Russian lang and culture, it is easier to just delete it. What a shame for Misplaced Pages to have these kind of editors who use their editor's power to be biases and w/o good faith. You have to be supportive that I found another citations that can be used for the article. What is the disappointment.Toreeva (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

I thought you said "I stop my participation". --Guy Macon (talk) 18:32, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

December 2019 B

There have been ongoing problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising and self-promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Misplaced Pages. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

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For years, you have engaged in self-promotion on Misplaced Pages, and have continued despite promises to stop. No more. Cullen Let's discuss it 20:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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I am not going to convince you why you block my input, it is waste time, if you did not see it before. But main problem is that you have editor(s) who don't know Russian lang. to read the citations and Soviet Culture to estimate the value of my contributions. Small example of it: if you see the article and "Publications and late Exhibition" section the citation (65) shows "failed verification", but if you read citation there 2 names correctly mentioned (ru:Анатолия Басина и Наталии Тореевой..) meaning that the editor can't read Russian text, so how editing can be done w/o knowledge the lang.? That's why easier to tell that the article is self promotion which is not true. But suggestion to use another user name is correct, bec. it puts off the editor(s) to hunting my real name.

Also you mentioned the "Compensation for contribution". Who should compensate? There is NO business or any ad for the company in the article. No Company even exists in the article, because it is the Art movement of 1970-80 I contributed in the article, so "NO" is the answer for this question.

If I will contribute in future, I am willing to contribute only to the Art in general, specifically to the Soviet time, which I am familiar with before my emigration to USA. Or any items written using the Russian citations but need some corrections. Or will not contribute at all. Thank you for your time.Toreeva (talk) 16:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Toreeva (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

It was not necessary to be blocked.

Decline reason:

Criticizing other users, then claiming you did nothing wrong is not going to get you unblocked. You still have not addressed the reason for the block, the spam/advertising edits you made. You need to address these, NOT the conduct of other editors. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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I forgot to add the reason why I should be unblocked. I did not do any damage or disruption to the article. I did not do anything wrong, but because my criticism of the editor(s) who used their editors power to put me out of my contributions due to their personal or political interests w/o knowledge of Russian language and culture, they tried to block me. It was not for the incorrect content of the articles in my contributions or promotional reason, but for my criticism of editor(s) actions. That's why I ask to be unblocked.Toreeva (talk) 18:21, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Toreeva, right after being told...

"Criticizing other users, then claiming you did nothing wrong is not going to get you unblocked. You still have not addressed the reason for the block, the spam/advertising edits you made. You need to address these, NOT the conduct of other editors."

...you decided that it was a good idea to respond by criticizing other users, claiming you did nothing wrong. and not addressing the spam/advertising edits you made? ಠ_ಠ

In my opinion the time has come to revoke Toreeva's talk page access. he us either unwilling or unable to follow the simplest of instructions. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Guy Macon (talk), Do you think to talk like "the spam/advertising edits you made" is the right way you talk with the contributor? What a shame Misplaced Pages should have and those who involved in it.Toreeva (talk) 22:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Good point Guy. Seeing as they clearly are ignoring the spam edits at this point, I've revoked talk page access. No need to continue with this. RickinBaltimore (talk) 23:08, 4 December 2019 (UTC)