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== Civility == == Welcome back ==
Regarding : You're once again walking the line for personal attacks. Be respectful, or you will be blocked again. --] 17:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi BV,
Hey guy, this is --] 05:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC). You said you were removing my link to Bhagavadgiitaa on my site because I am promoting myself personally and providing inaccurate information. Next time you speak those lies, I'll have to denounce you for vandalism and you'll have to prove your point. A link to my translation is again functional. Besides, I am working for the Lord and have been working for Him for more than twenty years. Thus, He is supporting me so that all people can obtain Sanskrit knowledge for free on my site. Touch His work and He'll t-o-u-c-h you. No doubt about it. His ways are always mysterious but you have been warned. Put your dirty hands on my sacred work and He'll put His on your miserable life. And I am a yogii with knowledge and experience, and never pronounce words in vain. I am not violent at all, but if I attacked with lies and gratuitous violence such as erasing that link to my translation, which is a service to the Lord, you'll know how powerful the Lord is. You'll know what you will do. Be wise, act wisely. To erase is easy, to tolerate the consequences of one's own bad acts is always difficult. Hopefull you understood.
Welcome back. Hope you'll have a constructive time here. All the best. --] (]) 07:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


:You are most welcome. --] (]) 17:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
BTW: Since you have an intermediate level in Sanskrit according to your own user page, and I am a Sanskrit scholar, you cannot judge my website and work seriously. Thus, your justification to erase my link is not valid because your knowledge is not enough. Lies only lead to pain. Remember this always.


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::Gabriel, Pls See .AFAIK, I deleted your link as per wiki guidelines.] 07:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
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:::I have supported your action on Gabriel's talkpage. ] | ] 07:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC).
:::Is that Gabriel dude an xtian missionairy? Why does he call himself a yogi? 100% of Swami's, yogis I've met wouldn't act so pompous.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 00:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


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== Romila Thapar ==
Stop deleting well researched works by others by calling them POV. All the material in this article under "Criticism" is well referenced. Do not delete just because your feelings!!! This is an encyclopedia, not a Saffron Brigage ] 12:26, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


Tomorrow - I promise! --] <small>(])</small> 02:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:I see that you are also a "blatant Hindu vandal". Join the club growing every day. It is an encyclopedia not dalitstan. Keep up the good work. Anyways major religious texts have criticism on a different page not a main page. ] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 14:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


== Note ==
Hello Bharatveer. Try not to cede the moral high ground by the usage of aggressive edit summaries the way Anwar used to. Thanks, ''']''' <nowiki>|</nowiki> ] 02:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC).


Please see ]. ] (]) 11:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
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== about ] ==

The category you re-inserted to the article, does not exist. --]]]] 08:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

== Happy New Year! ==

ചിങ്ങമാസം വന്നേ.....ഓണം ഇനി ദിവസങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം അകലെ... ഈ കാത്തിരിപ്പിനും ഒരു സുഖം.....പുതുവല്‍സരാശംസകള്‍ നേരുന്നു....ഈ വര്‍ഷം സന്തോഷങ്ങളും ഐശ്വര്യങ്ങളും നിറഞ്ഞതായിരിക്കെട്ടെ എന്നാശംസിക്കുന്നു--]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">]</font>epu<font color="white">&nbsp;</font>Joseph&nbsp;|<font color="green">]</font></sup>14:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


== Christian Ladakh ==

Perhaps you can refer to (book name: A Journey In Ladakh) - anotehr source for the content. As you can see, almost every travel guide certainly does mention the small and significant christian population in Ladakh. You may also check out some other books on the christians in leh--, though small, they are very significant. Please probe these sources before questioning iys notability. You might also want to read ] or ] about removing content and inclusion of what type of content. Feel free to express your comments and objections. Thanks. ] 08:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
:They make up approximately 2% of Ladakh's population. Yes, in terms of populatiopn wise they are unnotable, but did you ever considered their social standings? Many, many books mentioned about their standings in Ladakh, which I have given several bilbographies meant for you to refer on. On the question of notability you might also want to read the Importance Criteria section of ]. Thanks. ] 12:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

::Look here. Where else in Ladakh can you find Christian communities? If they can form 1-2% of total Ladakh's population, the percentage of Christians in leh is even greater. Also, please do not forget their social standing in Leh's society. Other small but significant communities forming even less than 1% of a region/country's population include the Muslims in Korea: ]. Apparently wikipedia permits any thing that is notable at least to a certain extent in nature. Please read ] and the other inputs I provided you first. Thanks. ] 15:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

:::My content is extracted from here meets the ] guideline and is a good enough source. Secondly, I know that the Christians form a small minority, but the ]'s Travel Guide, on the Jammu and Kashmir/Ladakh portion (see the People section) of the book The Himalayas stated the Ladakhi Christians are of the aristocrat/elite caste. You might also read this about the Moravian community's contribution to the local Ladakhis.

On the travel guide, you may have it at home, or you can easily borrow it from the library. I'm sorry, but I can't show you the page because I borrowed it from the library, and I have returned. Furthermore, these Christians being of a high social caste can't be deemed as unnotable. I have already given you the best of directions to locate the page where my source was. ] 11:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, please read the article on ] alone. The presence of Christianity is clearly mentioned, and I see no reason that it is very unnotable. You might also want to read on the Christian small but significant presence in Leh. Thanks. ] 07:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Residential schools in New France ==

I finally had the brilliant of trying to resolve the dispute at ] about the pressure on First Nations to send their children to residential schools by looking up sources. I ran across what is widely touted as a definitive source, ''Shingwauk's Vision'' by J. R. Miller. I've edited the article to cite Miller's account. There were both pressure and inducements to attend, but since the students could easily run off into the woods where it would be next to impossible to find them.

I left out any assertion about the strength of the pressure because from one perspective it was strong (because exerted by the government as a long-term policy of high priority) and weak (because the government couldn't enforce this policy). I think the current text gives a fair impression from which readers can deduce this. I also added a link to a website based on ''Shingwauk's Vision''. ] 18:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

:That also means that if you want to add the word ''strong'' I won't object. The context is clear now. ] 19:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

== Kalarippayattu ==

I only count two, but let's sort this out amicably before this becomes an edit war.

I went to some trouble (interlibrary loan) to get a hold of Zarrilli's book and now we have an opportunity to get a lot of the material in the article well-sourced. Please reply at ] because this discussion would be more fruitful there. ] 08:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Making outlandish claims even if supported by a book is not going to help. You cannot transfer the southern style of kalaripayattu to Varma Ati just like that.Finally adding that "chinese" connection to "chinna ati" makes your POV very clear.] 09:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:# So what suggestion do you have for making sure the two aren't confused?
:# Don't throw around accusations of POV. It's not ].
::In future respond only to ] so there's no unnecessary duplication.
::] 14:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

==Norah Jones==
Shes under ]. Good enough, and it says she's ravi shankars daughter. If shes not proudof her desi roots, forget it. Focus on other articles if you want to, theres other successful desis the world over.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 17:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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I'm just asking you to chill out, bro. In other words, instead of saying "POV! POV!", it would be more constructive if you made specific suggestions or something. ] 04:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe in giving credit where credit is due. That means giving credit for the Chinese martial arts to the Chinese. Sometimes that means taking credit away from Chinese when someone else has incorrectly given it to them. And sometimes that means I give India that credit it deserves. And I do so because that's where reliable sources have led me, not because of preconceptions.

OK?
<br>] 17:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi! You might be interested ]. --]<sup>a.k.a.D<font color="green">]</font>epu<font color="white">&nbsp;</font>Joseph&nbsp;|<font color="green">]</font></sup>07:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

== Leh ==

The christians in Leh, being of aristocrats, I can't see why they are unnotable or POV/bised in character. Furthermire, the education section of ] mentions firmly on the local Christian population, and I have noted that among the editors who edited ], nobody seemed to oppose the presence of the paragraph besides you, neither did I violate any policies and guidelines in adding the material, one of which I have provided a notable source. Rather, please read the 3rd policy of ], which rules against your decision of removing the content without sufficient reason.

If you still oppose otherwise, please explain why the details of the christian population is biased directly to me or stop reverting. Thanks. ] 07:36, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, but your explanation of your stance that it is POV is insufficient and only tells that the paragraph you removed is POV without further reason, solely on the grounds that their population is very small. Yes, very clear, but not enough, evidently too '''little'''. I have also showed you about other content in wikipedia comparable to those you removed, such as ], where the percentage of Muslims in Korea is comparable to the Christians in Leh.

:I have shown you my Lonely Planet book references that the Christians converts are from the aristocrat caste, and all you have to do is to find the book in your shelf, bookshop or library. The source I obtained form meets the ] very well.

:I have told you to '''relate''' the removal of the paragraph with the Christian presence in Leh at the ], but apparently it doesn't get into your head. Furthermore, people who have edited the article apparently shown no cause of complaint of the paragraph, and in this way you are violating the communal ]. I cannot forsee to which policy or guideline I have violated. Also, please read ]. Please note that removal of content is only permitted with sufficient grounds in this aspect, which you have been unable to fufil anyone of them. I need sufficient grounds and good reasons to justify the removal of the paragraph. Thanks. ] 11:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

::I apologise if I'm too harsh, but please read carefully the message above. Apparently such an immediate response from you I can forsee that you never took the message seriously. You are claiming that my paragraph is POV, but you have neither explained why you think is POV on the basis that the Christian population is miniscule, nor being able/bothered to establish your stance to why, while other related articles contain content about miniscule communities. While reading ], I can't see anywhere unnotabilty is one of the factors of being POV/biased. Neither could I forsee to where my tone of writing the paragraph is biased. As I have said, I can't accept your stance without sufficient reasoning, just by dictating your point at me without further ado. ] 12:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:All right. One family can vary in size, depending on the number of family members. On the other hand, I give you an example. Does a country with 0.5% out of 30,000 people being followers of Buddhism exactly tells the number of Buddhists. Secondly, I don't see any violation of Policies and guidelines on the inclusion of the paragraph on being unnecessary, but rather you violated the 3rd '''policy''' of ], which supports the inclusion of all relavant content in an article. If you are so picky abou this I will not reinstate this fact, but I believe others would reinclude that on the basis of WP:V, which I strongly support.

Thirdly, you removed the rest of the content alongside, not only on the family issue, and this you did not explain. ] 12:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

:That is what the source, the Lonely Planet travel guide, I have provided stated. It is a reputable source, accepted as a travel guide on an international basis. Please contact ] and not ask me, for this is not ], neither this is my very own opinion. The content of that paragraph does not come from me, but the sources. Please see ]. Thus the issue of Policies and guidelines apply, and go to the library to check out the travel guide provided if you don't believe me. I am sure that such a travel guide is internationally circulated, and can be found easily in any community library, any bookshop, and I have read it myself. Thanks. ] 13:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

::Please stop removing the paragraph by claiming that it is against NPOV. I have proven my citations (See ] and ]). Furthermore, other editors of the article did see my paragraph as POV except you. I have explained everything, and apparently there is no reason why you can't get my message. As I have said, the Lonely Planet guide I have cited is a reputable source, and I am not lying because I have hyperlinked the alibris page of the sale of that particular guide. I am not the one and I never '''concorted''' personally that the Christians are of the top ranks, and I got it from the very source. If you still doubt my truth please clarify with me or other editors, but stop doing blind reverts or I"ll have to take sterner measures. Book sources are accepted in wikipedia. Thanks. ] 09:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

::Bharatveer please calm down. Mr Tan I believe, is merely trying to show how missionaries are attacking traditional Ladakhi culture. The third source he placed is well-written. He is portraying the negative effect of Western missionaries on Ladakhi culture.] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font>

==Thanks==

thanks for neat editing(induchoodan's page.thanks a lot
] 10:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Hi BV, Welcome back. Hope you'll have a constructive time here. All the best. --Ragib (talk) 07:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

You are most welcome. --Ragib (talk) 17:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

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Tomorrow - I promise! --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 02:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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