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== On Sanskrit inscriptions in a mosque ==
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Revolving around Akshant Kautilya Sharma, this story<ref>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYY0DMA</ref> is an alarm for the Indian nation's authorities to rise before two major problems, namely misoriented youth and the caste-based reservation system take India to the depths of darkness. I also request that an article about the same be written if you consider it fit. It is somewhat popular on Facebook with a cult following for itself on its Facebook page.<ref>https://www.facebook.com/7SecondsAKS/</ref>. -- <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
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== Look at Sher Shah's coin. His name is written in Sanskrit. ==


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My prof told me that Sher Shah issued coins with inscription both in Persian and Sanskrit. It was a unique thing in the Medieval Period. But, I could not get material in its support. Suddenly, I looked into the wiki article of ]. Just look at the bottom of the first coin. His is written. --] (]) 05:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
: Really cool. I can see the Devnagari "clothes line" at the bottom clearly. As to what is written, I have to squint a lot to read "Sher Shah." I also remember from my high school history that Sher Shah was an administrative genius, and he vastly improved the administrative systems many of whose elements are still in use today. Akbar was lucky to have had him as a predecessor.
: Asher and Talbot say that the exclusion of Afghanistan from Indian history is a colonial hangover. A truly modern history of India should regard Afghanistan as an integral part of historical "India." -- ] (]) 08:00, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
:: Not quite "unique" in medieval times. You have seen ]'s coins of course? -- ] (]) 08:05, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Yes, Ghaznavi also did so in the 11th century.] (]) 12:23, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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I am also beginning to think that the so-called "insularity" of Indians was propaganda by Al Beruni and later by the British, both of whom hung out a lot with chauvinist Brahmins and imagined that they represented all of India. The trade routes had always been open, despite Islam, until the British closed them as part of their imperialist policies. The ] route might be the greatest legacy that Modi is likely to leave behind. -- ] (]) 08:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Hari Singh Nalwa closed the Khyber pass and the Britishers cemented it.] (]) 12:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
::::BTW, I do not think that Al Beruni was propagandist. He talked about the 11th century Hindus specifically and observed that their ancestors were not so narrow minded. The Muslim rulers of N. India in the medieval period were very cosmopolitan and maintained relations with the Central and West Asia. ] (]) 12:31, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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:An interesting fact - the commander-in-Chief of the army of Sher shah was a Hindu (Brahmajit Gaur). He was really a unique ruler. We still use his land revenue system, GT Road. He was also the pioneer in introducing civilian postal system in India. We use the term Sarkar (Government) invented by him.--] (]) 12:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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I don't mean to say that Al Beruni was making up stories that weren't true. But I think he was being selective, and was hearing what he wanted to hear. We don't find him talking about the bonhomie that existed between Hindus and Muslims that Romila Thapar narrates. He was the first one to have written that Hindus hated Muslims. There begins a long line that ends with Jinnah. -- ] (]) 21:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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The famous quote of Al Beruni, which Thapar called the "most incisive" one of the 11th century : {{Quote|"The Hindus believe that there is no country but theirs, no nation like theirs, no kings like theirs, no religion like theirs, no science like theirs.They are haughty, foolishly vain, self-conceited, and stolid. They are by nature niggardly in communicating that which they know, and they take the greatest possible care to withhold it from men of another caste among their own people, still much more, of course, from any foreigner ... Their haughtiness is such that, if you tell them of any science or scholar in Khorasan and Persis, they will think you to be both an ignoramus and a liar. If they traveled and mixed with other nations, they would soon change their mind, for their ancestors were not as narrow-minded as the present generation is."}} --] (]) 14:12, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


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:: I am sure Al Beruni has earned his due to say such things. But we should just wince and ignore it.
:: I, on the other hand, think that Hinduism had been defensive and insecure from the fall of the Gupta empire until about the time of Sankaracharya. It was under attack, by Buddhism, Jainism and Islam. And it didn't have a powerful empire to protect it. The bravado that Al Beruni speaks about was actually insecurity. -- ] (]) 15:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


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== Edit Request for Audrey truschke ==
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: Yes, it is. ] sources can only be used to provide additional detail to ] sources. In this case, there was no secondary source at all. You can try looking up what the Noorani book says about the issue. Personally, I don't think much importance can be placed on the quote because China was going to war with India and lots of people would have said lots of nasty things. It has to be seen context, which only secondary sources can provide. Cheers, ] (]) 10:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


Hi! I am proposing a new edit request for Audrey truschke. This edit will include an author named girish shahane who issued a critique of her work on aurangzeb. This seems like a legitimate edit since the review was published in a reputable indian news outlet called scroll in.
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I really don't see why this can't be used as a valid critique even if the critique isn't is a historian. I'm just wondering why criticism has to come from only a historian for it to be valid. Can it not come from a reputable news outlet? Hope to hear from you thanks............... ] (]) 00:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== Annexation of ] ==
I am surprised you did not add the fact that India annexed the state? every single source on planet earth states this and this needs to be added please stop your nationalist vomit on wikipedia. ] (]) 09:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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On Sanskrit inscriptions in a mosque

You might like this. Upd Edit (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Kautilya

I ginally understand, I think, why you use the name "Kautilya." I always wondered why you would use a reference to a 'prime minister' of Chandragupta, but it's a reference to encyclopedic collecting and compiling information. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 16:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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Wow! Thank you ToBeFree. I am blushing... :-) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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Edit Request for Audrey truschke

Hi! I am proposing a new edit request for Audrey truschke. This edit will include an author named girish shahane who issued a critique of her work on aurangzeb. This seems like a legitimate edit since the review was published in a reputable indian news outlet called scroll in.

https://scroll.in/article/856178/aurangzeb-was-a-bigot-not-just-by-our-standards-but-by-those-of-his-predecessors-and-peers

I really don't see why this can't be used as a valid critique even if the critique isn't is a historian. I'm just wondering why criticism has to come from only a historian for it to be valid. Can it not come from a reputable news outlet? Hope to hear from you thanks............... Ker3243 (talk) 00:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Academic works get academic reviews, published in journals. They get a lot higher weightage than those published in news outlets. History is a very ancient subject dating back to Herodotus and Aristotle. There is a long tradition of how to assess historical data, which scholarly historians follow. Popular historians know nothing about it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Season's Greetings

When he took up his hat to go, he gave one long look round the library. Then he turned ... (and Saxon took advantage of this to wag his way in and join the party), and said, "It's a rare privilege, the free entry of a book chamber like this. I'm hoping ... that you are not insensible of it."

(Text on page 17 illustrated in the frontispiece in Juliana Horatia Ewing's Mary's Meadow and Other Tales of Fields and Flowers, illustrated by Mary Wheelhouse, London: G. Bell and Sons, 1915.)

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you Fowler&fowler. What a lovely greeting! Happy holidays for you too! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Wishing you a Merry Christmas filled with love and joy, a Happy Holiday season surrounded by warmth and laughter, and a New Year brimming with hope, happiness, and success! 🎄🎉✨ Baqi:) (talk) 10:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Jannatulbaqi. Happy holidays to you too! Let us hope that 2025 will be better than this year has been! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)