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== April 2015 == ==AN notice==
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::What are you talking about?? How is there any disputing the fact that ISIS is a Muslim group? That's the core of how they would classify themselves, what motivates them, and what inspires them. By the way, please learn to assume good faith. Also, I will be working to clarify the description of the article. The facts will help me build a consensus on the talk page. ] (]) 02:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
:::They are an ] group, as the article stated before your edit. You needn't instruct me as to what I need to learn. ''Watch your step.'' <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:100;">]</span> <sup>''] ''</sup> 02:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Are you denying the fact they are Muslim??? If so do you want to go on the article about the Pope and say we can't call him Catholic??? Please respond to my explanation on the talk page. ] (]) 02:47, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::Saying that Islam is the guiding ideology of ISIL is like saying that American Patriotism was the guiding ideology of ]. ] (]) 03:16, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
::::::McVeigh was just one guy and does not represent American patriotism. ISIS is huge movement and large enough to represent Islam. ] (]) 03:21, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
You are not large enough to represent scholarship about Islam. ] (]) 03:51, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


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== Accusations of "threat/harassment" and "stalking" ==


You should read ] so you know what this entails. Basically, do not post to '''any page''' related to Hilary Clinton and do not mention or refer to Hilary Clinton anywhere. This ban can be appealed at the ], and will be logged at ]. --] <sup>]</sup> 04:50, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Joe, I'm responding to your recent edit summaries here {{tq|remove threat/harassment. You are not an administrator; and you seem to be stalking me, reverting everything I do, despite my use of talk page explanations and citations}} and {{tq|rv. please stop stalking me. I did not violate the 3RR. So please spare me the cut & paste spam/threats. respond to me on the relevant talk page}}. First, the messages left for you here did not need to be left by an administrator (which I happen to be). They were normal content and 3RR warnings that editors (admins or not) leave for other editors all the time. Second, leaving those messages on your User Talk page here is a crucial part of the purpose of this page. A User Talk page is a place where messages can be left about editor behavior, because article Talk pages aren't supposed to be used for that purpose. I'm not convinced I'm not wasting my time leaving this message for you here, but you should understand that those sorts of messages are basically what your User Talk page is for. Thanks... <code>]]</code> 03:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
::Hi Zad68, I wasn't directing those comments to you. Another user has been following me around. Thanks for the note. ] (]) 01:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


== A beer for you! == == If it's any consolation... ==


I wasn't involved in your RFA; looking at your contributions, a ten year absence from Misplaced Pages and then only a year of being back, I can certainly understand why most people believed you didn't have ] of passing an RFA. However you were right in questioning Floquenbeam's civility. Floquenbeam is a terrible administrator. Admins should be exemplars of civility, should hold themselves to an even higher standard than the average Wikipedian is expected to maintain, should be impassive and diplomatic, even when/especially when dealing with difficult people or intervening in heated disputes, but Floquenbeam regularly injects snark, sarcasm, and thinly veiled insults even into things like his closures of dispute resolution discussions. When even politely asked to consider changing his comments to something more neutral, he defensively lashes back with more insults. He lacks the temperament and self-control required to be an admin and should have been desysopped long ago. So no, it wasn't just you. Whether or not your RFA was clumsy or premature, your request to Floquenbeam was politely worded, and his response was unnecessarily and inappropriately obnoxious, especially for an admin. Just remember that if you ever pass an RFA, strive to maintain a polite, professional tone; be a good admin, not one like Floquenbeam. ] (]) 14:01, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
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:: Because this is such a fantastic example of a civil, neutral edit summary coming from an admin: . Or this . Or this ] ] (]) 14:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | I know where you're coming from. Keep on keeping. It's impressive how far back you go. Oh, the nostalgia... ] (]) 07:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=original unblock reason | decline = I agree with Bbb23's findings. The checkuser tool shows that you are still using multiple accounts, including {{user|Wenteng}} and {{user|Paektu}}. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> ] • ]</span> 19:59, 15 October 2016 (UTC)}} Can someone please help me! Granted, I used sockpuppets over 10 years ago. But I was unblocked afterwards-- personally by Jimbo Wales, after serving my sentence and apologizing. By virtue of the fact I've continued to use the same account for 13+ years, everyone should see my commitment to transparency. If I were using sockpuppets, why would I even come back as JoeM, given the baggage I have to carry from my admittedly provocative behavior during the early days of Misplaced Pages. Please unblock my account. The reasoning for the block is complete nonsense. ] (]) 19:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)


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Topic ban

As you were warned of discretionary sanctions here and almost immediately after made edits that triggered an AN report here I am imposing a temporary 6-month topic ban on all articles and pages related to Hilary Clinton, broadly construed. Past unacceptable editing includes , , , , and the edits on Clinton Body Count.

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If it's any consolation...

I wasn't involved in your RFA; looking at your contributions, a ten year absence from Misplaced Pages and then only a year of being back, I can certainly understand why most people believed you didn't have snowball's chance in hell of passing an RFA. However you were right in questioning Floquenbeam's civility. Floquenbeam is a terrible administrator. Admins should be exemplars of civility, should hold themselves to an even higher standard than the average Wikipedian is expected to maintain, should be impassive and diplomatic, even when/especially when dealing with difficult people or intervening in heated disputes, but Floquenbeam regularly injects snark, sarcasm, and thinly veiled insults even into things like his closures of dispute resolution discussions. When even politely asked to consider changing his comments to something more neutral, he defensively lashes back with more insults. He lacks the temperament and self-control required to be an admin and should have been desysopped long ago. So no, it wasn't just you. Whether or not your RFA was clumsy or premature, your request to Floquenbeam was politely worded, and his response was unnecessarily and inappropriately obnoxious, especially for an admin. Just remember that if you ever pass an RFA, strive to maintain a polite, professional tone; be a good admin, not one like Floquenbeam. Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:01, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I would put zero stock in Mmyers1976's opinion of Floquenbeam. --NeilN 14:10, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Because this is such a fantastic example of a civil, neutral edit summary coming from an admin: "you are not admin material (that *could* be a compliment, but in this case it isn't". Or this " I'll just block whoever continues this stupidity". Or this "perhaps if you acted like you were an adult..." What does it say in the Civility policy's section on edit summary Dos and Don'ts? "Do: Use neutral language. Don't: Make snide comments." Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Blocked????????

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I agree with Bbb23's findings. The checkuser tool shows that you are still using multiple accounts, including Wenteng (talk · contribs) and Paektu (talk · contribs). Mike V • Talk 19:59, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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Can someone please help me! Granted, I used sockpuppets over 10 years ago. But I was unblocked afterwards-- personally by Jimbo Wales, after serving my sentence and apologizing. By virtue of the fact I've continued to use the same account for 13+ years, everyone should see my commitment to transparency. If I were using sockpuppets, why would I even come back as JoeM, given the baggage I have to carry from my admittedly provocative behavior during the early days of Misplaced Pages. Please unblock my account. The reasoning for the block is complete nonsense. JoeM (talk) 19:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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Please return Joe. Youbmay have violated rules and not been the best but you were still a fine contributor. And you helped balance out opinions among Wikipedians with a certain opinion. 2600:1:F1A7:FB21:2DB1:634A:3E3A:2B8E (talk) 22:56, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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