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| Extremely uncivil to Indian users wikipedia. Has a bad habit of calling people meatpuppets, including insulting well-established users | |||
| . He was uncivil and provocative with this comment and and | |||
| .] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 17:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on ] ], was intended as a counterpart to ]. A person with complaints over ] could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page. | |||
| === ] === | |||
| I am an ex-member of an Eastern-based cult organization called the Brahma Kumaris that teaches and believes in World Destruction by Nuclear Holocaust, the incarnation of God into their founder, that they are the only true messangers, that they and they alone will inherit heaven on earth etc, etc etc. All the usual stuff. I have been documenting the group on the Misplaced Pages as a matter of public interest. Under the protection granted for personal attack under relgious persecution I wouldike to ask to have comments made and this Brahma Kumari teacher stopped from making them. He has gone on a campaign of exposure cross posting on public forums for recovering members attempting to expose and connect my IP address with administrators or contributors of it and publishing email on the Misplaced Pages in an unsubstantiate manner. I have not issued the npa shortcut and I did write extensive about personal attacks, explain why and asking him to remove all his offending and revealing statments. I have not removed any offending statements for fear of criticism but consider that I am under a "shoot the messanger" type attack where the cult cannot kill the message. I have gone out of my way to provide clear referencable citations. | |||
| Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While ] is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite ]. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and ] on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was ], with the result that the noticeboard was closed on {{#formatdate:10 January 2007}}. | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University#Personal_Attacks_and_NPOV | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72855765 | |||
| The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the ], ] or, as a last resort, ]. | |||
| He also uses a number of IP address including latterly ] | |||
| ===Procedure=== | |||
| He seems to have enrolled an ally ] who goes on to call me a " most bitter and twisted element ". | |||
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=next&oldid=72892492 | |||
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| Thank you. ] 05:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| The Brahma Kumaris does not espouse any of that (I'm a male, so I'm not a member). They are a spiritual org not some satanic cult. ] <font color = "blue"><sub>]</sub></font> 17:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Open reports== | |||
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| ==={{User|Holywarrior}}=== | |||
| :I believe that his edit on admin ]'s page | |||
| Is a violation of ] and is an attack against myself. he has made similar attacks before in his edit summaries to the ] article I have warned him but he has reverted the change with a threatening edit summary. | |||
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Kancha_Ilaiah&action=history | |||
| He has made threats of libel and bogus defwarns against me before | |||
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| He changed his stance suddenly and said that the edits were "in bad faith" whereas all good faith efforts were made | |||
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| When another user reverted the changes back, he makes accusations of libel, which, I believe, constitute a legal threat and are a violation of ]. | |||
| Then he made allegations in the talk page that did not even make any coherent sense to me (or, for that matter, to any of the other involved parties). | |||
| In other edits , he said "revert as per talk page", yet no legitimate reason was provided in the talk page, nor a single coherent sentence that qualifies as a logical argument. | |||
| I repeatedly requested him to debate the matter sensibly, but he has just kept re-iterating his accusations in the article talk page. | |||
| I request administrator intervention. Thank you and good morning.] 11:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I don't want to indulge in any talk with this person.All this person needs is a block for .] 11:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::By the way, the above post is by the subject of the complaint ].] 13:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *The point of this page is to halt current personal attacks with brief blocks. Since this appears to be more of an on-going problem, perhaps ] would be a better option? Shell <sup>]</sup> 12:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::The dispute is already being mediated by a user ]. My complaint here is not regarding the dispute. It is regarding his incivil tone and his personal attacks, which I feel must be addressed independent of the ongoing dispute resolution process.] 13:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I assume good faith that ] is ''perhaps'' a very new user and does not know much about wikipedia policies so he keeps repeating mistakes like .since none of the diffs suggest any policy violation,The complaint should soon be closed and this person be asked to stop misguiding others.] 13:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::By the way, the above post is by the subject of the complaint ].] 13:55, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::And the relevance of that earlier issue (which, by the way, was decided as a 3RR violation in spirit by admin) here is ...? (other than an obvious attempt at coloring my alleged 'character')] 13:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Since this ] has a history of cheating and misrepresenting facts,I choose not to answer any allegations put against me.But anybody before deciding may contact me regarding allegations.Thanks.] 13:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *It would be best if everyone worked with the mediator to resolve the dispute. In the meantime, please try to remain civil with each other and focus your comments on the article itself, not on the other editors. You might try focusing on your concerns with the article and writing up your discussion for the changes you'd like to see happen. Shell <sup>]</sup> 15:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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- This process has been discontinued per this discussion.
The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on 7 October 2005, was intended as a counterpart to the request for intervention against vandalism page. A person with complaints over personal attacks could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.
Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While vandalism is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite subjective. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and wikilawyering on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was nominated for deletion, with the result that the noticeboard was closed on 10 January 2007.
The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the administrators' noticeboard, dispute resolution or, as a last resort, arbitration.
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