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<includeonly>==Speedy renaming and merging==</includeonly> | |||
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<includeonly>== Speedy renaming and merging ==</includeonly> | |||
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'''Speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' of categories may be requested <em>only</em> if they meet a ''']''', for example ] (consistency with main article's name) or ] (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below. | |||
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# '''Determine''' which '''speedy criterion''' applies | |||
Categories may be listed for '''speedy renaming''' or '''speedy merging''' if they meet one or more of the criteria spefcified below. They '''must be tagged''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. A request may be processed '''48 hours''' after it was listed if there are no objections. This delay allows other editors to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. | |||
# '''Tag category page''' with {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} or {{tlsx|cfm-speedy|''Merge target''}} | |||
# '''List request''' along with ] reason under "]" below on this page | |||
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at ]. | |||
Categories that qualify for speedy ''deletion'' (per ], e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for seven days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}}, and no delay is required to process these. Renaming under ] can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on ]. | |||
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change. | |||
Contested requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed, after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{tlx|moved discussion from|<nowiki>]|2=~~~~</nowiki>}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, they need to submit the request as a regular CfD in accordance with <noinclude>]</noinclude><includeonly>the instructions here</includeonly>. | |||
Categories that qualify for '''speedy deletion''' (per ], e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{tlx|db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{tl|db-empty}}. Renaming under ] may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on ]. | |||
=== Speedy criteria === | |||
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination: | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are '''''strictly''''' limited to: | |||
*'''Oppose''', (the reasons for your objection). <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> | |||
{{#section:Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion|C2}} | |||
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section ] or the page ] (]). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search ] to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy. | |||
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{tlx|moved discussion from|<nowiki>]|2=~~~~</nowiki>}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at ] (CfD) in accordance with ]. | |||
* A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, | |||
** And no objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination. | |||
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who . If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion. | |||
* If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
===Speedy criteria=== | |||
{{shortcut|WP:C2}} | |||
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are <strong style="font-style:italic;">strictly</strong> limited to: | |||
{{Anchor|C2A|c2a}} | |||
====C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2A}} | |||
* Correction of spelling errors and ]. Differences between ] (e.g. ''Harbours → Harbors'') are <strong>not</strong> considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under ]. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged. | |||
* Appropriate conversion of hyphens into ] or ] (e.g. ''Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations''). | |||
*Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing ] (e.g. ''Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads''). This includes ]izing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a ]. | |||
{{Anchor|C2B|c2b}} | |||
====C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2B}} | |||
* ] (e.g. ''U.S. → United States''). | |||
* ] fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. ''Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state)'' or ''Category:Washington, D.C.''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2C|c2c}} | |||
====C2C: Consistency with established category tree names==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2C}} | |||
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "''x by y''", "''x of y''", or "''x in y''" categorization conventions specified at ] | |||
* This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory. | |||
* This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination. | |||
* This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. '']'' and '']''). | |||
{{Anchor|C2D|c2d}} | |||
====C2D: Consistency with main article's name==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2D}} | |||
* Renaming a ] to match its eponymous page (e.g. ] and ]). | |||
* This applies <strong style="font-style:italic;">only</strong> if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is: | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">unambiguous</em> (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the ] of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and | |||
**<em style="font-style:normal;text-decoration:underline;">uncontroversial</em>, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at ], or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a '''no consensus''' result, or it is controversial in some other way. | |||
*This criterion may also be used to rename a ] in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district. | |||
* Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category. | |||
{{Anchor|C2E|c2e}} | |||
====C2E: Author request==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2E}} | |||
*This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category. | |||
*The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming. | |||
====C2F: One eponymous page==== | |||
{{Shortcut|WP:C2F}} | |||
* This criterion applies if the category contains ''only'' an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{tlsx|cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at ], you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them. | |||
===Admin instructions=== | |||
When handling the listings: | |||
# Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria. | |||
# With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously. | |||
# Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition. | |||
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at ], in the section "If the decision is to '''Rename''', '''Merge''', or '''Delete'''"; to list it for the bots, use the ]. | |||
====Applying speedy criteria in full discussions==== | |||
* A nomination to '''merge''' or '''rename''', brought forward as a full ], may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that: | |||
** The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and | |||
** No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination. | |||
* If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus. | |||
{{Anchor|Add requests for speedy renaming here}} | {{Anchor|Add requests for speedy renaming here}} | ||
==Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here== | |||
''If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, {{em|do not list it here}}. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.'' | |||
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, |
'''If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, {{em|do not list it here}}.''' | ||
Use the following format on a new line at the |
Use the following format on a new line at the {{strong|beginning}} of the list: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | ||
If the current name ] rather than deleted, use: <syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | |||
'''Remember to tag the category with:''' <code>{{tlsp|Cfr-speedy|''New name''}}</code> | |||
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use: | |||
<syntaxhighlight lang="wikitext">* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~</syntaxhighlight> | |||
{{strong|Remember to tag the category page with:}} {{tlsx|cfr-speedy|''New name''}} | |||
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests {{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}. | A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than {{#time:H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"| -48 hours}}. Currently, there are '''{{PAGESINCATEGORY:Categories for speedy renaming}}''' open requests {{smaller|({{Purge|refresh}})}}. | ||
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===Current requests=== | |||
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D). | |||
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**:That is not necessary — these categories will be deleted. –] (]]) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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***:{{ping|LaundryPizza03}} That actually is necessary, as this is the page for ''speedy renaming'' or ''speedy merging'' of categories, not ''speedy deletion''. If you believe these need outright deletion, then they need to be nominated at CfD. - ] <sub>]</sub> 03:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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****:In that case, I have listed one target for each. Agin, this will have no effect because each article is already in all of the parent categories. –] (]]) 03:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} presumably it should become ]. ] (]) 07:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:*:oops; yes! Good catch! ] 15:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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* ] to ] – C2D: ]. Retain cat redirect for common name and also rename sub- and sub-sub-cats. —]<span style="color:red">❤]☮]☺]☯</span> 03:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::Yeah - I'd agree with Hugo, for the reasons of the current category system. If you want to be picky and pedantic about it, timber is usually converted to lumber before being used in construction anyway. It's worth noting that the current ] article arrived at its current length after a merger with the similarly sized article ] (now a redirect). Judging by the earlier content of the two articles, it could be yet another instance of one name (timber) used in the US and one (wooden) used in the rest of the English-speaking world - in which case C2D may suggest "yes", but C2A suggests "no". ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 06:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::'''Comment''': The American country category ] and 20 subcategories by state use "Wooden" not "Timber" ] (]) 04:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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***{{ping|Good Olfactory}} I'm not sure this would be an improvement. The main article ] begins "Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine involved paramilitary actions carried out by Jewish underground groups against the British forces and officials in Mandatory Palestine between 1939 and 1948." So it does not seem accurate to refer to "the Jewish insurgency" as an event; perhaps "the period of Jewish insurgency"? Meanwhile, the term "Palestine Emergency" is used elsewhere for this period, in ] (dates stated as 1945–48) and <s>]</s> ]. Perhaps the most specific term would follow the section ]. However, "British military personnel of the Jewish Resistance Movement" or the nomination "British military personnel of the Jewish insurgency" might imply involvement in or support for the Movement/insurgency. I'd be inclined to just add dates at the end of the existing name. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 15:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** I revised the section link in the "friendly fire" article to 1945–48, as this also matches the dates given in the biographies in the subcat. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 21:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
***'''Oppose''' these two, not uncontroversial. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 23:18, 26 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
****Moved the first one to a ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 02:54, 30 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*: I do not think this satisfies any speedy criteria.--] (]) 06:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:Definitely not a criteria under "C2A", or any speedy for that matter. ] 11:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A: ]; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are ]s. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. ] (]) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*] to ] – C2D per ]. ] ]] 16:17, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Speedy oppose'''. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have ] as the parent category. ] 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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***'''Hold''' these three pending RM at ]; it appears to me that the article is mis-named, and should include Molenbeek. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 20:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:* {{ping|Couiros22}} not sure that this fits speedy because ] is a valid category tree too. ] (]) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --] (]) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
***'''Oppose''', because of the ambiguity already discussed at ]. ] (]) 17:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::In that case, just create a new category? - ] <sub>]</sub> 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
****Ah, well spotted. Wouldn't the same arguments apply to all of ] and ]? Mass nomination, anyone? – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
*****{{re|Fayenatic london}} Good point. I agree the same arguments would apply to all of these, and am preparing a mass nomination for the smaller one, {{cat|Explorers by nationality}}. Cheers, ] (]) 23:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
****** I can't really see how the same argument applies generally to ], ] etc. The earlier debate arose because there is no descriptive adjective for people from the Republic of Venice. ] (]) 12:24, 19 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
******* Maybe it's unnecessary in Europe, but the category names in Europe should follow those required for places that were explored (OK, by Europeans, we know...) | |||
******* Anyway, this speedy nomination for Explorers will not be C2C if the rest are renamed the other way at ]. Historians should probably follow. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 12:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
*** {{ping|Sionk}} As there was a strong consensus at that CfD to keep the existing convention for Fooian explorers, the proposal here is C2C after all; so do you withdraw your opposition, at least for the explorers category? – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:18, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** Why would I do that? The category has already been renamed following a CfD. These are explorers/historians ''from'' the Republic of Venice, not ''of'' the Republic of Venice. Unlike many other nationalities, there is no adjective to describe people ''from'' the Republic of Venice. It's pointless blndly following convention when there is no 'one size that fits all'. ] (]) 17:30, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
***** {{ping|Sionk}} Because the parent is {{cat|Republic of Venice people}}, which contains many more occupations named like that. The point of the 2014 CfD was to insert "Republic of" in place of Venetian. By the consensus of the latest CfD, which rejected using "from" in all other cases, the 2014 participants worried too much when they put the location at the end of the name instead of the beginning to avoid ambiguity. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 19:13, 1 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
******We could just renominate it for a full discussion. I supported the previous renaming, but in light of the more recent outcome, I would be happy to support changing it back. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*****{{ping|Fayenatic london}} As you can see the previous CfD discussion for historians and explorers (separate from all other professions) was raised to avoid ambiguity in these two specific categories. As was raised in the ], New Zealand suffers the same issues (there's no adjective 'Newzealandish'). Well, if the consensus is to restore this confusing ambiguity then so be it, I don't have the time or inclination to spend more time on these daft 'one size fits all' arguments. ] (]) 18:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
******{{ping|Sionk}} Category definitions can be used to resolve any ambiguity that exists for a category based on its name if the ambiguity results from the name conforming to a convention. A sizable portion of category names are not 100% unambiguous, so this is not a new problem. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
*******Who reads category definitions before adding a category? No one. A simple and practical solution would be to name categories so they are unambigious, rather than a rigid "This category was named that way, so all similar categories must follow regardless". ] (]) 22:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
********{{ping|Sionk}} We have no way of knowing one way or the other the percentage of readers that read category headers, so I'm not sure how you are so sure that "no one" does. (I, for one, do read them when they are there – so your (perhaps exaggerrated?) opinion can't be correct.) Anyways, thinking more broadly, categories cannot always be 100% unambiguous, so the solution you propose is neither simple nor practical in many circumstances. Thinking of the category scheme as a whole, I think it makes more sense (and would generally be more helpful) to bring as much predictability and standardization as possible to the system, and then issues of relatively minor ambiguity could be dealt with through category definitions. It has the added beauty of being generally in line with current and historical practice on Misplaced Pages. ] <sup>]</sup> 08:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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**: '''Oppose speedy''' for the project-related category, as it's still called ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 18:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:I need help tagging all of these; I accidentally interrupted the ] during tagging. –] (]]) 04:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*** '''Oppose''' renaming ] only, since this is pre-independence. ] (]) 14:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:Added borders. –] (]]) 03:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:'''Oppose the year categories'''. Any year category that dates before the country was known as "Timor-Leste" shouldn't be renamed. ] (]) 11:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::Also '''oppose the WikiProject related categories''' as the project hasn't been renamed. ] (]) 11:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:::Okay, so that means everything except "WikiProject East Timor" and pre-2002 year categories. –] (]]) 19:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Comment''' The problem with this and similar moves when countries change their names is twofold: as noted above, it is inappropriate for topics that date before the change, and it can become inconsistent with external sources. Thus, for example, the ] is used by many plant taxonomic databases to define the unit areas of plant distributions. It uses "East Timor", so we do at ]. This ensures the distribution categorization is consistent with sources used in the article. This isn't a knockdown argument against moving, but nominating so many categories of different kinds at once makes it difficult to consider them carefully. ] (]) 16:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:: In these cases, we need redirects.--] (]) 08:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*'''Note to closing admin''' If processing the project categories, please make sure all templates are changed before letting the bot loose on these. ] (]) 09:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:] was the name of a military unit. ] is for notable persons who belonged to that force. Neither of these articles was approved for speedy renaming. I have reverted the changes. ] ] 10:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** {{ping|LaundryPizza03}} I guess you aren't planning to take any of the above to full CfD, are you? ] (]) 15:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:No. –] (]]) 22:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:* {{ping|Ymblanter}} could you have the CFDS tags from the above category pages removed by the bot? There is too many of them to process them manually. Wait, only do this after processing Fayenatic london's alternative in Current requests. ] (]) 07:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:*:Despite the above notes on years, categories such as ] have been moved despite being in the earlier period. ] (]) 14:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:*::I can not really check every single one if hundreds of cats are being nominated. Will be happy to move back what needs to be moved back. ] (]) 20:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:*:I feeded all of them to the bot, let us keep them here for a couple of days in case there are further considerations/objections. ] (]) 20:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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**'''Oppose''': {{ping|BDD}} this is not eligible for speedy processing under C2D due to recent move of ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 21:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::*], do you disagree that the current title is "unambiguous and uncontroversial"? (bird genus) is irregular, overprecise disambiguation. Would ]? --] (]) 00:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:::* {{ping|BDD}} As it happens, I do; a linnet is a bird, but Linaria is a bird genus. I'm surprised to see that there are a few others in ] named likewise. However, my opposition is not on the merits of the case, but solely on the process; C2D specifies two forms of evidence of "unambiguous and uncontroversial": either longstanding name, or RM. By all means do make a full CFD nomination; I shan't object to it. Easy CFDs are closed promptly these days. There is no need to quote or refer to this speedy nomination, as it's only opposed on process. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 08:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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::::* Now at ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 20:59, 6 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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*:'''oppose''' as per MOS:JOBTITLES ''They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself'' the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well ]] 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., ], categories under ], categories under ], and categories under ]; see also articles like ], ], etc.) ] (]) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* {{ping|WikiEditor50}} are you planning to move these to full discussion? ] (]) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:*:Hi. Yes, please do ] (]) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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** I'll treat this revert by {{user|Andy Dingley}} as an oppose Full nomination at ]. ] (]) 20:14, 30 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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***{{ping|Tim!}} are these right, though? Some of these are contrary to C2D. Most of the pages beginning ] are redirects; there are more beginning ]. – ] '''<font color="#FF0000">]</font>'''] 17:13, 20 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
**** {{ping|Fayenatic london}} moved to a full discussion at ]. ] (]) 18:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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:* '''Oppose all''' needs discussion. ] (]) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::* What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--] (]) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::*I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. ] (]) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::*So why don't you discuss it on ] instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (])? Here's an excerpt: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East. | |||
:::::Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--] (]) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the ] page, ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ] for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? ] (]) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* {{ping|Russian Rocky}} are you planning to move this to full discussion? ] (]) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::* Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with ] on ] who said the following: ''"According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."'' | |||
::* See ''The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies'' (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: .--] (]) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:* {{ping|Smasongarrison}} arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". ] (]) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:*:Both parents? ] also uses of ] 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:*:* Right. There is ]. I guess "in" is technically more correct. ] (]) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:*:*:Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? ] 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:* The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see ]. ] (]) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed ] 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Oppose speedy''' There are fare more subcategories of {{cat|People whose existence is disputed}} that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. ] <sup>]</sup> 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::Those are all being renamed to match this parent. ] ] 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::: In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2D: Match ]. ] (]) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Oppose''' ambiguous with ], see ]. ''']''' (]) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:'''Postpone''' until we know the result of the proposed move of ]. ]...''<small>]</small>'' 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
====Moved to full discussion==== | |||
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* ] to ] - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of ]. ] (]) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:I do not think this is the speedy material. {{ping|OGBC1992}}, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? ] (]) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*::Hi @] I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. ] (]) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** Moved to ]. ] (]) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2A. I have already modified the category in the articles ] and ] to the new name. --] (]) 07:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::] is an empty category so it could have just been tagged for CSD C1 or moved without going through CFD. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 08:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::It became empty after the nominator moved the two entries to the proposed target. I will now move them back and will move the category in 48h provided no objections have been raised against speedy move. ] (]) 08:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::* Moved to ]. ] (]) 17:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War ] 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**] I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. ] is a parent of ] and a grandparent of ]. ] (]) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:Why is ] a parent of ]? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. ] 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. ] (]) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**:::If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? ] 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
**::::Done at ]. ] (]) 20:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: Per all other subcategories of ]. ] (]) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*: '''Oppose speedy''' The main article is ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*:* Brought up for ].--] (]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ] to ] – C2C: Per other categories in ]. ] (]) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
** '''Oppose for speedy''', we should discuss whether ] is perhaps a better target. ] (]) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
*** Agreed and brought up for ].--] (]) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
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- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
ShortcutThe category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
Shortcut- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Misplaced Pages naming conventions and practices
Shortcut- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
ShortcutBringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Misplaced Pages:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
Shortcut- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
Shortcut- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
Shortcut- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
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* REDIRECT ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
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* NO BOTS ] to ] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 12:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 340 open requests (refresh).
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Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Engro Corporation to Category:Engro – C2D: to match the category name with the article. Veldsenk (talk) 10:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Matthews family (US) to Category:Matthews family (United States) – C2C: Per subcategories of Category:Families of the United States. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Young family (Baseball) to Category:Young family (baseball) – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of Bottom-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of Bottom-importance – C2C: Per Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Category:Category-Class articles. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 02:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles by work groups to Category:Category-Class Animation pages by work groups
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of High-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of High-importance
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of Low-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of Low-importance
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of Mid-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of Mid-importance
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of NA-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of NA-importance
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of Top-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of Top-importance
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Animation articles of Unknown-importance to Category:Category-Class Animation pages of Unknown-importance
- Category:1828 in Iran to Category:1828 in Asia – C2F: Only article is already in all parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy I added Treaty of Turkmenchay to the category and now there are two categories in the article. Armbrust 04:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:1831 in Iran to Category:1831 in Asia – C2F: Only parent is already in all categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:1833 in Iran to Category:1833 in Asia – C2F: Only article is already in all parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Category:1834 in Iran to Category:1834 in Asia – C2F: Only article is already in all parents. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: You seem to have not specified a target? - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- That is not necessary — these categories will be deleted. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: That actually is necessary, as this is the page for speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories, not speedy deletion. If you believe these need outright deletion, then they need to be nominated at CfD. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I have listed one target for each. Agin, this will have no effect because each article is already in all of the parent categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:22, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: You seem to have not specified a target? - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Category-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages – C2C: Per Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Category:Category-Class articles BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 22:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Disambig-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Draft-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:File-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:NA-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:NA-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Portal-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Portal-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Project-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Redirect-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class Housing and Tenant Rights articles to Category:Template-Class Housing and Tenant Rights pages
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class British folk rock task force articles to Category:Category-Class British folk rock task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:List-Class British folk rock task force articles to Category:List-Class British folk rock task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class British folk rock task force articles to Category:Project-Class British folk rock task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Category-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Disambig-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Draft-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class European League of Football articles to Category:File-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Portal-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Portal-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Project-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Redirect-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Template-Class European League of Football pages
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Operation Majestic Titan articles to Category:Category-Class Operation Majestic Titan pages
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class Operation Majestic Titan articles to Category:Project-Class Operation Majestic Titan pages
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class Operation Majestic Titan articles to Category:Template-Class Operation Majestic Titan pages
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class Operation Majestic Titan articles to Category:Redirect-Class Operation Majestic Titan pages
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Category-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Disambig-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Draft-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Draft-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:File-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Project-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Project-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Redirect-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class Minnesota Legislature articles to Category:Template-Class Minnesota Legislature pages
- REDIRECT Category:Category-Class the Philippine politics task force articles to Category:Category-Class the Philippine politics task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:Disambig-Class the Philippine politics task force articles to Category:Disambig-Class the Philippine politics task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:File-Class the Philippine politics task force articles to Category:File-Class the Philippine politics task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:Template-Class the Philippine politics task force articles to Category:Template-Class the Philippine politics task force pages
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class European League of Football articles to Category:Redirect-Class European League of Football pages – C2C: Per Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Category:Category-Class articles BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 22:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Redirect-Class Vietnam articles to Category:Redirect-Class Vietnam pages – C2C. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 22:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Battles of the Abyssinian–Adal war to Category:Battles of the Ethiopian–Adal War – C2C: Child of Category:Ethiopian–Adal War Gjs238 (talk) 22:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Redirect-Class comics articles by work group to Category:Redirect-Class comics pages by work group – C2C. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 21:11, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Redirect-Class Baseball articles by project to Category:Redirect-Class Baseball pages by project – C2C. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 21:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Redirect-Class television articles by task force to Category:Redirect-Class television pages by task force – C2C. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:56, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class military history articles by task force to Category:Redirect-Class military history pages by task force – C2C. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 20:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class Animation articles by work groups to Category:Redirect-Class Animation pages by work groups – C2C. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 20:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Redirect-Class film articles by task force to Category:Redirect-Class film pages by task force – C2C. The bot should be able to do this one. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 20:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Arnold-Bridges-Pryor family to Category:Arnold–Bridges–Pryor family – C2A: These should all have en-dashes rather than hyphens, as they are not hyphenated names (see Category:Knowles–Carter family, as opposed to Category:Baden-Powell family, which is a hyphenated name). Mike Selinker (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Nethercutt-Richards family to Category:Nethercutt–Richards family
- Category:Medill-Patterson family to Category:Medill–Patterson family
- Category:Hulman-George family to Category:Hulman–George family
- Category:Gracie-King family to Category:Gracie–King family
- Category:Conway-Johnson family to Category:Conway–Johnson family
- Category:Baskin-Robbins family to Category:Baskin–Robbins family
- Category:Poitras-Cuthand family to Category:Poitras–Cuthand family
- Category:McGarrigle-Wainwright-Roche family to Category:McGarrigle–Wainwright–Roche family
- Category:Wahlgren-Ingrosso family to Category:Wahlgren–Ingrosso family
- Category:Byington-Duvivier family to Category:Byington–Duvivier family
- Category:Galvão-Pires family to Category:Galvão–Pires family
- Category:Dowie-Easton family to Category:Dowie–Easton family
- Category:Redknapp Lampard family to Category:Redknapp–Lampard family
- Category:Verón/Verde family to Category:Verón–Verde family
- Category:Barros Schelotto/Cataldi family to Category:Barros Schelotto–Cataldi family
- Category:Fernández/Villagra family to Category:Fernández–Villagra family
- Category:Bachop-Mauger family to Category:Bachop–Mauger family
- Category:2013 Czech legislative election to Category:2013 Czech parliamentary election – C2D: Per this move discussion, which resulted in moves. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cusco Province to Category:Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lima Province to Category:Lima province – C2D: Lima province. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bafatá Region to Category:Bafatá region – C2D: Per this move discussion that resulted in "Region" being downcased to "region" for regions of Guinea-Bissau. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Biombo Region to Category:Biombo region
- Category:Bolama Region to Category:Bolama region
- Category:Cacheu Region to Category:Cacheu region
- Category:Quinara Region to Category:Quinara region
- Category:Gabu Region to Category:Gabu region
- Category:Oio Region to Category:Oio region
- Category:Tombali Region to Category:Tombali region
- Category:People from Bafatá Region to Category:People from Bafatá region
- Category:People from Quinara Region to Category:People from Quinara region
- Category:People from Cacheu Region to Category:People from Cacheu region
- Category:People from Tombali Region to Category:People from Tombali region
- Category:People from Oio Region to Category:People from Oio region
- Category:People from Bolama Region to Category:People from Bolama region
- Category:People from Biombo Region to Category:People from Biombo region
- Category:Gorgol Region to Category:Gorgol region – C2D: Per this move discussion that resulted in "Region" being downcased to "region" for regions of Mauritania. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guidimaka Region to Category:Guidimaka region
- Category:Brakna Region to Category:Brakna region
- Category:Assaba Region to Category:Assaba region
- Category:Adrar Region to Category:Adrar region
- Category:Hodh Ech Chargui Region to Category:Hodh Ech Chargui region
- Category:Inchiri Region to Category:Inchiri region
- Category:Tagant Region to Category:Tagant region
- Category:Trarza Region to Category:Trarza region
- Category:Tiris Zemmour Region to Category:Tiris Zemmour region
- Category:Hodh El Gharbi Region to Category:Hodh El Gharbi region
- Category:People from Adrar Region to Category:People from Adrar region
- Category:People from Trarza Region to Category:People from Trarza region
- Category:People from Inchiri Region to Category:People from Inchiri region
- Category:People from Gorgol Region to Category:People from Gorgol region
- Category:People from Brakna Region to Category:People from Brakna region
- Category:People from Hodh Ech Chargui Region to Category:People from Hodh Ech Chargui region
- Category:People from Hodh El Gharbi Region to Category:People from Hodh El Gharbi region
- Category:People from Tiris Zemmour Region to Category:People from Tiris Zemmour region
- Category:People from Assaba Region to Category:People from Assaba region
- Category:People from Tagant Region to Category:People from Tagant region
- Category:People from Guidimaka Region to Category:People from Guidimaka region
- Category:People from Dakhlet Nouadhibou Region to Category:People from Dakhlet Nouadhibou region
- Category:People from Nouakchott-Sud Region to Category:People from Nouakchott-Sud region
- Category:Communes of Hodh Ech Chargui Region to Category:Communes of Hodh Ech Chargui region
- Category:Communes of Adrar Region to Category:Communes of Adrar region
- Category:Communes of Assaba Region to Category:Communes of Assaba region
- Category:Communes of Brakna Region to Category:Communes of Brakna region
- Category:Communes of Trarza Region to Category:Communes of Trarza region
- Category:Dakar Region to Category:Dakar region – C2D: Per this move discussion that resulted in "Region" being downcased to "region" for regions of Senegal. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Diourbel Region to Category:Diourbel region
- Category:Fatick Region to Category:Fatick region
- Category:Kaolack Region to Category:Kaolack region
- Category:Kolda Region to Category:Kolda region
- Category:Ziguinchor Region to Category:Ziguinchor region
- Category:Tambacounda Region to Category:Tambacounda region
- Category:Thiès Region to Category:Thiès region
- Category:Saint-Louis Region to Category:Saint-Louis region
- Category:Matam Region to Category:Matam region
- Category:Louga Region to Category:Louga region
- Category:Kaffrine Region to Category:Kaffrine region
- Category:Kédougou Region to Category:Kédougou region
- Category:Sédhiou Region to Category:Sédhiou region
- Category:People from Dakar Region to Category:People from Dakar region
- Category:People from Thiès Region to Category:People from Thiès region
- Category:People from Fatick Region to Category:People from Fatick region
- Category:People from Kaolack Region to Category:People from Kaolack region
- Category:People from Ziguinchor Region to Category:People from Ziguinchor region
- Category:Populated places in Ziguinchor Region to Category:Populated places in Ziguinchor region
- Category:Populated places in Matam Region to Category:Populated places in Matam region
- Category:Populated places in Kaolack Region to Category:Populated places in Kaolack region
- Category:Populated places in Tambacounda Region to Category:Populated places in Tambacounda region
- Category:Populated places in Diourbel Region to Category:Populated places in Diourbel region
- Category:Populated places in Thiès Region to Category:Populated places in Thiès region
- Category:Populated places in Louga Region to Category:Populated places in Louga region
- Category:Populated places in Saint-Louis Region to Category:Populated places in Saint-Louis region
- Category:Populated places in Dakar Region to Category:Populated places in Dakar region
- Category:Populated places in Kédougou Region to Category:Populated places in Kédougou region
- Category:Populated places in Fatick Region to Category:Populated places in Fatick region
- Category:Populated places in Kaffrine Region to Category:Populated places in Kaffrine region
- Category:Populated places in Kolda Region to Category:Populated places in Kolda region
- Category:Populated places in Sédhiou Region to Category:Populated places in Sédhiou region
- Category:People from Diourbel Region to Category:People from Diourbel region
- Category:People from Louga Region to Category:People from Louga region
- Category:People from Sédhiou Region to Category:People from Sédhiou region
- Category:People from Tambacounda Region to Category:People from Tambacounda region
- Category:People from Kaffrine Region to Category:People from Kaffrine region
- Category:People from Kédougou Region to Category:People from Kédougou region
- Category:People from Kolda Region to Category:People from Kolda region
- Category:People from Matam Region to Category:People from Matam region
- Category:People from Saint-Louis Region to Category:People from Saint-Louis region
- Category:Wahhabi War to Category:Wahhabi war – C2D: To match Wahhabi war, which was moved after this RM. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Vitebsk Region to Category:Vitebsk region – C2D: Per this move discussion that resulted in "Region" being downcased to "region" for Belarus regions. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Minsk Region to Category:Minsk region
- Category:Mogilev Region to Category:Mogilev region
- Category:Grodno Region to Category:Grodno region
- Category:Brest Region to Category:Brest region
- Category:Gomel Region to Category:Gomel region
- Category:Districts of Vitebsk Region to Category:Districts of Vitebsk region
- Category:People from Vitebsk Region to Category:People from Vitebsk region
- Category:Rivers of Vitebsk Region to Category:Rivers of Vitebsk region
- Category:Districts of Minsk Region to Category:Districts of Minsk region
- Category:People from Minsk Region to Category:People from Minsk region
- Category:Rivers of Minsk Region to Category:Rivers of Minsk region
- Category:Districts of Gomel Region to Category:Districts of Gomel region
- Category:People from Gomel Region to Category:People from Gomel region
- Category:Rivers of Gomel Region to Category:Rivers of Gomel region
- Category:Districts of Brest Region to Category:Districts of Brest region
- Category:People from Brest Region to Category:People from Brest region
- Category:Rivers of Brest Region to Category:Rivers of Brest region
- Category:Districts of Grodno Region to Category:Districts of Grodno region
- Category:People from Grodno Region to Category:People from Grodno region
- Category:Rivers of Grodno Region to Category:Rivers of Grodno region
- Category:Districts of Mogilev Region to Category:Districts of Mogilev region
- Category:People from Mogilev Region to Category:People from Mogilev region
- Category:Rivers of Mogilev Region to Category:Rivers of Mogilev region
- Category:Geography of Brest Region to Category:Geography of Brest region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Brest Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Brest region
- Category:Populated places in Brest Region to Category:Populated places in Brest region
- Category:Museums in Brest Region to Category:Museums in Brest region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Brest Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Brest region
- Category:Museums in Gomel Region to Category:Museums in Gomel region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Gomel Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Gomel region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Gomel Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Gomel region
- Category:Geography of Gomel Region to Category:Geography of Gomel region
- Category:Populated places in Gomel Region to Category:Populated places in Gomel region
- Category:Geography of Grodno Region to Category:Geography of Grodno region
- Category:Populated places in Grodno Region to Category:Populated places in Grodno region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Grodno Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Grodno region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Grodno Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Grodno region
- Category:Geography of Minsk Region to Category:Geography of Minsk region
- Category:Populated places in Minsk Region to Category:Populated places in Minsk region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Minsk Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Minsk region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Minsk Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Minsk region
- Category:Geography of Mogilev Region to Category:Geography of Mogilev region
- Category:Populated places in Mogilev Region to Category:Populated places in Mogilev region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Mogilev Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Mogilev region
- Category:Geography of Vitebsk Region to Category:Geography of Vitebsk region
- Category:Populated places in Vitebsk Region to Category:Populated places in Vitebsk region
- Category:Buildings and structures in Vitebsk Region to Category:Buildings and structures in Vitebsk region
- Category:Museums in Vitebsk Region to Category:Museums in Vitebsk region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Vitebsk Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Vitebsk region
- Category:Tourist attractions in Mogilev Region to Category:Tourist attractions in Mogilev region
- Category:Lakes of Vitebsk Region to Category:Lakes of Vitebsk region
- Category:Culture of Grodno Region to Category:Culture of Grodno region
- Category:Pukhavichy, Minsk Region to Category:Pukhavichy, Minsk region
- Category:People from Pukhavichy, Minsk Region to Category:People from Pukhavichy, Minsk region
- Category:Sport in Minsk Region to Category:Sport in Minsk region
- Category:Druzhny, Minsk Region to Category:Druzhny, Minsk region
- Category:Sportspeople from Gomel Region to Category:Sportspeople from Gomel region
- Category:Sportspeople from Grodno Region to Category:Sportspeople from Grodno region
- Category:Sportspeople from Brest Region to Category:Sportspeople from Brest region
- Category:Sportspeople from Minsk Region to Category:Sportspeople from Minsk region
- Category:Sportspeople from Mogilev Region to Category:Sportspeople from Mogilev region
- Category:Sportspeople from Vitebsk Region to Category:Sportspeople from Vitebsk region
- Category:Footballers from Vitebsk Region to Category:Footballers from Vitebsk region
- Category:Footballers from Mogilev Region to Category:Footballers from Mogilev region
- Category:Footballers from Minsk Region to Category:Footballers from Minsk region
- Category:Footballers from Grodno Region to Category:Footballers from Grodno region
- Category:Footballers from Gomel Region to Category:Footballers from Gomel region
- Category:Footballers from Brest Region to Category:Footballers from Brest region
- Category:Colonial American expatriates in Great Britain to Category:American expatriates in Great Britain – C2C: parents are American expatriates in the United Kingdom, and Expatriates in the Kingdom of Great Britain., and the norm isn't to distinguish era MasonGarrison 00:51, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: presumably it should become Category:American expatriates in the Kingdom of Great Britain. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- oops; yes! Good catch! MasonGarrison 15:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: presumably it should become Category:American expatriates in the Kingdom of Great Britain. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:South Africa men's national ice hockey team to Category:Ice hockey in South Africa, Category:National ice hockey teams in Africa, Category:National sports teams of South Africa, Category:Men's national ice hockey teams – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ryan Murphy (producer) to Category:Works by Ryan Murphy (producer) – C2C per other cats in Category:Works by American filmmakers and Category:Works by American writers. Inpops (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Songs written by Ricky Wilson (British musician) to Category:Songs written by Ricky Wilson (singer) – C2D per Ricky Wilson (singer). Inpops (talk) 21:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English rugby union administrators to Category:English rugby union executives – C2C per Category:Rugby union executives. Inpops (talk) 20:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pattaya United F.C. to Category:Pattaya United F.C. (2008) – C2D: These are about the 2008 club. There's a new club now occupying the name. Article was renamed in 2023. Paul_012 (talk) 18:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pattaya United F.C. templates to Category:Pattaya United F.C. (2008) templates
- Category:Pattaya United F.C. seasons to Category:Pattaya United F.C. (2008) seasons
- Category:Pattaya United F.C. managers to Category:Pattaya United F.C. (2008) managers
- Category:Pattaya United F.C. players to Category:Pattaya United F.C. (2008) players
- Category:Women in American professional sports management to Category:American women sports executives and administrators – C2C per Category:Women sports executives and administrators and Category:American sports executives and administrators. Inpops (talk) 15:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Microfinance Banks in Nigeria to Category:Microfinance banks in Nigeria – C2A, sentence case. Wikishovel (talk) 14:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events – C2C: Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @LIrala: it should rather become Category:Intersex events per e.g. Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Groups of entertainers to Category:Loosely defined groups of entertainers – C2A: More specific phrasing to communicate the premise of the category. TheActualDamnPeterGriffin (talk) 1:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this satisfies any speedy criteria.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely not a criteria under "C2A", or any speedy for that matter. MasonGarrison 11:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Silent film actors to Category:Silent-film actors – C2A: Compound modifier; it's not about film actors (or comedians) that are silent, it's the films they appear in that are silent films. Tagging only the top two levels to begin with. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy oppose. I'm not sure this works under the wikipedia hypenation rules. Especially since we have Silent film people as the parent category. MasonGarrison 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Extinct monotypic bird genera to Category:Prehistoric monotypic bird genera – C2C: a few birds such as the Choiseul pigeon or the broad-billed parrot are contemporarily extinct ; the others are prehistoric ans should be moved to a relevant category (by renaming this one?) --Couiros22 (talk) 12:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Couiros22: not sure that this fits speedy because Category:Extinct animals is a valid category tree too. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, just create a new category? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- the point is to have a 'prehistoric monotypic bird genera' cat embedded in a 'extinct monotypic bird genera' cat. (we can reput the two examples above into the latter) just as 'prehistoric animals' is embedded in the 'extinct animals' cat. --Couiros22 (talk) 17:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- East Timor to Timor-Leste – C2D: Per RM at Talk:Timor-Leste#Requested_move_16_December_2024. Same as below, but covering all categories that are not borders or bilateral relations. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1940s in East Timor to Category:1940s in Timor-Leste
- Category:1970s disestablishments in East Timor to Category:1970s disestablishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1970s establishments in East Timor to Category:1970s establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1970s in East Timor to Category:1970s in Timor-Leste
- Category:1974 establishments in East Timor to Category:1974 establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1974 in East Timor to Category:1974 in Timor-Leste
- Category:1975 establishments in East Timor to Category:1975 establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1975 in East Timor to Category:1975 in Timor-Leste
- Category:1980s in East Timor to Category:1980s in Timor-Leste
- Category:1989 in East Timor to Category:1989 in Timor-Leste
- Category:1990s disestablishments in East Timor to Category:1990s disestablishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1990s establishments in East Timor to Category:1990s establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1990s in East Timor to Category:1990s in Timor-Leste
- Category:1991 establishments in East Timor to Category:1991 establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1991 in East Timor to Category:1991 in Timor-Leste
- Category:1999 establishments in East Timor to Category:1999 establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:1999 in East Timor to Category:1999 in Timor-Leste
- Category:2000 in East Timor to Category:2000 in Timor-Leste
- Category:2001 disestablishments in East Timor to Category:2001 disestablishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:2001 establishments in East Timor to Category:2001 establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:2001 in East Timor to Category:2001 in Timor-Leste
- Category:20th-century establishments in East Timor to Category:20th-century establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:20th-century disestablishments in East Timor to Category:20th-century disestablishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:2nd-millennium establishments in East Timor to Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Timor-Leste
- Category:2nd millennium in East Timor to Category:2nd millennium in Timor-Leste
- Category:Journalists killed while covering the Indonesian occupation of East Timor to Category:Journalists killed while covering the Indonesian occupation of Timor-Leste
- Oppose The main article of the category is Indonesian occupation of East Timor. Armbrust 18:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Years of the 20th century in East Timor to Category:Years of the 20th century in Timor-Leste
- Category:A-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:A-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:B-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:B-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Category-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Category-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Category-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Category-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:C-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:C-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Disambig-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Disambig-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Disambig-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Disambig-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:Draft-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Draft-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Draft-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Draft-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:FA-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:FA-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:File-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:File-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:FL-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:FL-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:FM-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:FM-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:FM-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:FM-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:GA-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:GA-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:High-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:High-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:List-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:List-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Low-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Low-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Mid-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Mid-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:NA-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:NA-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:NA-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:NA-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:NA-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:NA-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:NA-importance WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:NA-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:Pages using WikiProject East Timor with unknown parameters to Category:Pages using WikiProject Timor-Leste with unknown parameters
- Category:Project-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Project-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Project-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Project-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:Redirect-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Redirect-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Redirect-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Redirect-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:Start-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Start-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Stub-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Stub-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Template-Class WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Template-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Template-Class WikiProject East Timor pages to Category:Template-Class WikiProject Timor-Leste pages
- Category:Top-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Top-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Unassessed WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Unassessed WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:Unknown-importance WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:Unknown-importance WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:WikiProject East Timor articles by importance to Category:WikiProject Timor-Leste articles by importance
- Category:WikiProject East Timor articles by quality to Category:WikiProject Timor-Leste articles by quality
- Category:WikiProject East Timor articles to Category:WikiProject Timor-Leste articles
- Category:WikiProject East Timor participants to Category:WikiProject Timor-Leste participants
- Category:WikiProject East Timor to Category:WikiProject Timor-Leste
- Oppose speedy for the project-related category, as it's still called Misplaced Pages:WikiProject East Timor. Armbrust 18:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I need help tagging all of these; I accidentally interrupted the Mass CfDS tool during tagging. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose renaming Category:1940s in East Timor only, since this is pre-independence. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added borders. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the year categories. Any year category that dates before the country was known as "Timor-Leste" shouldn't be renamed. Gonnym (talk) 11:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also oppose the WikiProject related categories as the project hasn't been renamed. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, so that means everything except "WikiProject East Timor" and pre-2002 year categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also oppose the WikiProject related categories as the project hasn't been renamed. Gonnym (talk) 11:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The problem with this and similar moves when countries change their names is twofold: as noted above, it is inappropriate for topics that date before the change, and it can become inconsistent with external sources. Thus, for example, the WGSRPD is used by many plant taxonomic databases to define the unit areas of plant distributions. It uses "East Timor", so we do at Category:Flora of East Timor. This ensures the distribution categorization is consistent with sources used in the article. This isn't a knockdown argument against moving, but nominating so many categories of different kinds at once makes it difficult to consider them carefully. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- In these cases, we need redirects.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin If processing the project categories, please make sure all templates are changed before letting the bot loose on these. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- International Force East Timor was the name of a military unit. Category:Australian military personnel of the International Force for East Timor is for notable persons who belonged to that force. Neither of these articles was approved for speedy renaming. I have reverted the changes. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: I guess you aren't planning to take any of the above to full CfD, are you? Marcocapelle (talk) 15:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- No. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: could you have the CFDS tags from the above category pages removed by the bot? There is too many of them to process them manually. Wait, only do this after processing Fayenatic london's alternative in Current requests. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Despite the above notes on years, categories such as Category:2000s disestablishments in Timor-Leste have been moved despite being in the earlier period. CMD (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I can not really check every single one if hundreds of cats are being nominated. Will be happy to move back what needs to be moved back. Ymblanter (talk) 20:07, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I feeded all of them to the bot, let us keep them here for a couple of days in case there are further considerations/objections. Ymblanter (talk) 20:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Despite the above notes on years, categories such as Category:2000s disestablishments in Timor-Leste have been moved despite being in the earlier period. CMD (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: could you have the CFDS tags from the above category pages removed by the bot? There is too many of them to process them manually. Wait, only do this after processing Fayenatic london's alternative in Current requests. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- No. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:13, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Ceylon to Category:Chief secretaries of Ceylon – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 07:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Sierra Leone to Category:Colonial secretaries of Sierra Leone
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Cyprus to Category:Colonial secretaries of Cyprus
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Fiji to Category:Colonial secretaries of Fiji
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Gibraltar to Category:Colonial secretaries of Gibraltar
- Category:Chief Secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony) to Category:Chief secretaries of the Gold Coast (British colony)
- Category:Chief Secretaries for Ireland to Category:Chief secretaries for Ireland
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Kenya to Category:Chief secretaries of Kenya
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Mauritius to Category:Colonial secretaries of Mauritius
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New South Wales to Category:Colonial secretaries of New South Wales
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of New Zealand to Category:Colonial secretaries of New Zealand
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Nigeria to Category:Chief secretaries of Nigeria
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Northern Rhodesia to Category:Chief secretaries of Northern Rhodesia
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Palestine to Category:Chief secretaries of Palestine
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Singapore to Category:Chief secretaries of Singapore
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Tasmania to Category:Colonial secretaries of Tasmania
- Category:Chief Secretaries of Transjordan to Category:Chief secretaries of Transjordan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:37, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Western Australia to Category:Colonial secretaries of Western Australia – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The job titles are in plural, and we do not capitalize in such cases (see: "When a formal title for a specific entity... is not plural..."). Similar categories have also been moved to use lowercase based on this (e.g., Category:Vice presidents of the United States, categories under Category:Defense ministers by country, categories under Category:Governors-general, and categories under Category:Deputy prime ministers; see also articles like List of secretaries of state of the United States, List of secretaries general of the Western European Union, etc.) WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- oppose as per MOS:JOBTITLES They are capitalized only in the following cases: When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself the category is addressing the position in and of itself. This applies to all the other listed categories as well Gnangarra 11:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, please do WikiEditor50 (talk) 12:44, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: are you planning to move these to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Prince Edward Island to Category:Colonial secretaries of Prince Edward Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Newfoundland to Category:Colonial secretaries of Newfoundland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Bermuda to Category:Colonial secretaries of Bermuda – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of Barbados to Category:Colonial secretaries of Barbados – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Colonial Secretaries of the Bahamas to Category:Colonial secretaries of the Bahamas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Chief Secretaries of British Guiana to Category:Chief secretaries of British Guiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Provincial Mayors of Cusco Province to Category:Provincial mayors of Cusco province – C2D: Cusco province. Also C2A with MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
- Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East to Category:Sculpture of the ancient Near East
- Category:Ancient near eastern cosmology to Category:Ancient Near Eastern cosmology
- Oppose all needs discussion. Johnbod (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
- Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Russian Rocky: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Misplaced Pages articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
- See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Indigenous leaders in South America to Category:Indigenous leaders of South America – C2C: parent is "Indigenous leaders of the Americas", which uses "of" MasonGarrison 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hmmm. That's a good point. I don't have strong opinions about which is used. Should we take this to full to see if someone does? MasonGarrison 19:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right. There is Category:Indigenous leaders in Canada. I guess "in" is technically more correct. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both parents? Indigenous people of South America also uses of MasonGarrison 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- The parent category has been nominated for renaming in the opposite direction, see Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_29#Category:Indigenous_leaders_of_the_Americas. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: arguably the parent might be renamed to "in". Marcocapelle (talk) 18:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Possibly fictional pirates to Category:Pirates whose existence is disputed – C2C: parent is People whose existence is disputed MasonGarrison 06:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- In that case we should wait until that is concluded and if it does then we can process this. Armbrust 23:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are all being renamed to match this parent. Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 19#Category:Possibly fictional people from Europe MasonGarrison 06:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There are fare more subcategories of Category:People whose existence is disputed that use "Possibly fictional" than "whose existence is disputed", and therefore it's not a clear convention to apply C2C. Armbrust 10:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Stainton, south Cumbria to Category:Stainton, Westmorland and Furness – C2D: Match Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose ambiguous with Stainton, Dacre, see User talk:Hey man im josh#Stainton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Postpone until we know the result of the proposed move of Stainton, Westmorland and Furness. Grutness...wha? 03:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Peggy Jay family to Category:Jay-Garnett family - To better summarise the contents as the family is wider than just direct relatives of Peggy Jay. OGBC1992 (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Ymblanter I am not sure how to take something to CFD if you wouldn't mind assisting? Many thanks. OGBC1992 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I do not think this is the speedy material. @OGBC1992:, would you mind taking it to full CFD with literally the same justification? Ymblanter (talk) 10:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh to Category:1975 establishments in Chhattisgarh – C2A. I have already modified the category in the articles Gomardha Wildlife Sanctuary and Badalkhol Wildlife Sanctuary to the new name. --Cyfal (talk) 07:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh is an empty category so it could have just been tagged for CSD C1 or moved without going through CFD. Liz 08:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It became empty after the nominator moved the two entries to the proposed target. I will now move them back and will move the category in 48h provided no objections have been raised against speedy move. Ymblanter (talk) 08:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- It became empty after the nominator moved the two entries to the proposed target. I will now move them back and will move the category in 48h provided no objections have been raised against speedy move. Ymblanter (talk) 08:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh is an empty category so it could have just been tagged for CSD C1 or moved without going through CFD. Liz 08:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas to Category:Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas – C2C: parent is Russian military personnel killed in the Russo-Ukrainian War MasonGarrison 14:16, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then the category should either be renamed to Pro-Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas or purged to only include russian nationals. I personally don't care which way it goes, but the naming isn't consistent. Can you take it to full? MasonGarrison 19:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas contains Russians and Ukrainians so it is not really a nationality category. TSventon (talk) 19:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why is Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas? Pro-russian is a cause not a nationality. MasonGarrison 19:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Smasongarrison I would suggest a full discussion for both categories as the war in Donbas involved Pro-Russian military units rather than only Russian military units and the members of the category are almost all Pro-Russian Ukrainians. Category:Pro-Russian people of the war in Donbas is a parent of Category:Russian military personnel of the war in Donbas and a grandparent of Category:Pro-Russian military personnel killed in the war in Donbas. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alvarado wrestling family to Category:Alvarado professional wrestling family – C2C: Per all other subcategories of Category:Professional wrestling families. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neapolitan families to Category:Families of Naples – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Italian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed and brought up for full discussion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for speedy, we should discuss whether Category:Families from the Kingdom of Naples is perhaps a better target. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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