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*'''Delete''' She does not pass even the low notability criteria we have set for pornographic actors.] (]) 15:18, 6 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Delete''' She does not pass even the low notability criteria we have set for pornographic actors.] (]) 15:18, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' -- coverage does not suggest notability. ] (]) 18:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Delete''' -- coverage does not suggest notability. ] (]) 18:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - she won individual award, she meets the notability criteria of WP:PORNBIO. <span class="unicode" style="white-space:nowrap;">]<span style="display:inline-block; margin-bottom:-0.3em; vertical-align:-0.4em; line-height:1.2em; font-size:85%; text-align:left;">]<br/><small>(en-2)</small></span></span> 01:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Keep''' - she won individual award, she meets the notability criteria of WP:PORNBIO. <span class="unicode" style="white-space:nowrap;">]<span style="display:inline-block; margin-bottom:-0.3em; vertical-align:-0.4em; line-height:1.2em; font-size:85%; text-align:left;">]<br/><small>(en-2)</small></span></span> 01:35, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
**Comment: an award confers some nature of ''possible'' notability, but ''actual'' notability still needs to be demonstrated via "significant coverage in reliable sources" as per ]. ] (]) 09:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC) **Comment: an award confers some nature of ''possible'' notability, but ''actual'' notability still needs to be demonstrated via "significant coverage in reliable sources" as per ]. ] (]) 09:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
**'''Comment'''. The PORNBIO standard requires a "well-known" and "significant" award, which is a higher standard than an "individual" award. This !vote misrepresents the applicable guideline and should therefore be disregarded. ] (]) 13:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC) **'''Comment'''. The PORNBIO standard requires a "well-known" and "significant" award, which is a higher standard than an "individual" award. This !vote misrepresents the applicable guideline and should therefore be disregarded. ] (]) 13:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Keep'''. Passes ] with her ] for Best Actress (Couples-Themed Release), which is a well-known/significant industry award that is not a scene-related/ensemble category. ] resulted in keep due to several award wins, among them XBIZ and Best Actress. Winning a subcategory of Best Actress is just as valid under PORNBIO as winning a generic Best Actress award. It's not unusual for porn awards to have Best Actress subcategories instead of a generic Best Actress award. XBIZ having subcategories is no different from ] having subcategories, ] having subcategories, or ] having , subcategories. The Eva Angelina AfD I cited above had participants who voted keep with her AVN Best Actress (Video) award, a subcategory/not generic, being one of the reasons why. Even if, in addition to a Best Actress subcategory, an award show had a generic Best Actress award, the recipient of the subcategory would also pass PORNBIO. , and participants in her AfD (]) voted keep with her Venus Best Actress (International) award being one of the reasons why. XBIZ's Best Actress (Couples-Themed Release) is just as valid under PORNBIO as AVN's Best Actress (Video) and Venus's Best Actress (International). ] (]) 07:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Keep'''. Passes ] with her ] for Best Actress (Couples-Themed Release), which is a well-known/significant industry award that is not a scene-related/ensemble category. ] resulted in keep due to several award wins, among them XBIZ and Best Actress. Winning a subcategory of Best Actress is just as valid under PORNBIO as winning a generic Best Actress award. It's not unusual for porn awards to have Best Actress subcategories instead of a generic Best Actress award. XBIZ having subcategories is no different from ] having subcategories, ] having subcategories, or ] having , subcategories. The Eva Angelina AfD I cited above had participants who voted keep with her AVN Best Actress (Video) award, a subcategory/not generic, being one of the reasons why. Even if, in addition to a Best Actress subcategory, an award show had a generic Best Actress award, the recipient of the subcategory would also pass PORNBIO. , and participants in her AfD (]) voted keep with her Venus Best Actress (International) award being one of the reasons why. XBIZ's Best Actress (Couples-Themed Release) is just as valid under PORNBIO as AVN's Best Actress (Video) and Venus's Best Actress (International). ] (]) 07:18, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
::What is the coverage that demonstrates the subject's notability? An awards confers some measure of ''presumed'' notability, but the ''actual'' notability still needs to be demonstrated via significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as per ]. ] (]) 09:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC) ::What is the coverage that demonstrates the subject's notability? An awards confers some measure of ''presumed'' notability, but the ''actual'' notability still needs to be demonstrated via significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as per ]. ] (]) 09:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as nothing at all close for the substance of independent notability. ] ] 22:50, 8 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Delete''' as nothing at all close for the substance of independent notability. ] ] 22:50, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''. All delete votes above are either claiming that Nicole fails ], even though she undeniably passes it ("Has won a well-known and significant industry award"), or asking that the article be deleted because she fails GNG, which doesn't matter. ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]. ] (]) 15:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC) *'''Comment'''. All delete votes above are either claiming that Nicole fails ], even though she undeniably passes it ("Has won a well-known and significant industry award"), or asking that the article be deleted because she fails GNG, which doesn't matter. ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]. ] (]) 15:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
**] may apply. As part of AfD, each article is evaluated on its own merits, I believe. ] (]) 15:32, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' The keep-ers seem to have neglected to read the introduction to PORNBIO, which says: "People are likely to be '''notable''' if they meet any of the following standards. ... <u>meeting one or more does '''not''' guarantee that a subject should be included.</u>" (bolding in original, underlining added) The article says absolutely '''nothing''' about Keira Nicole except that she's won and been nominated for awards. That's just not enough to be notable. —&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 18:14, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - While the ]s are certainly a ], the "Best Actress—Couples-Themed Release" award appears to be a niche award category instead of a "significant" award category. The ] award categories for "Best Actress, Video" & "Best Actress, Film" are apparently a relic of the days when certain ]s were release in certain theaters or just ]. In general, well-developed Misplaced Pages articles need to have significantly more information in them than is displayed here ]. ] (]) 02:38, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' -- I am also curious why this (and related) articles prominently display ''Nominated'' entries. Are these awards like the Oscars, with a nomination being a rare honour, or are dozens of people get nominated in each category? It also seems there is an awful lot of awards and all of them are claimed to be ''significant''. ] (]) 02:46, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. MBisanz 20:41, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Keira Nicole

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Fails PORNBIO and the GNG. No qualifying awards, just nominations. No independent reliable sourcing. No non-trivial biographical content. "Best Actress—Couples-Themed Release" is a recently created, little-noted award category with no discernible selection criteria; in fact. "Couples-Themed Release" is an arbitrary/meaningless category -- the term gets no GBooks hits, and virtually all, if not all, the Ghits relate to this or related award categories, not do any topic with independent meaning. Even if this were to get a technical, tenuous PORNBIO pass, that is outweighed by the utter failure to even remotely approach meeting the GNG. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 13:13, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

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What is the coverage that demonstrates the subject's notability? An awards confers some measure of presumed notability, but the actual notability still needs to be demonstrated via significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as per WP:GNG. K.e.coffman (talk) 09:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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