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	== Copying from Village Pump (Miscellaneous) ==

			== Removal of Admin rights request (BozMo) ==
	The bureaucrat who usually does the username changes (] will be inactive on Misplaced Pages until the end of October (as per his user page), and there is a long list of Wikipedians awaiting name changes who seem to be getting increasingly rowdier. Is there possibly another free bureaucrat who can take over his duties until he gets back? ] 13:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC) (or, hopefully, ]) <small> copied by -- ]]</small>
			:{{rfplinks\|BozMo}}
			I am unlikely in the next year (until I retire Jan 2026) to be able to put much time into this project so would be happy to be de-sysoped. Thanks ] ] 22:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

			:Thank you for your service. I'll remove the bit now. Do you have any advanced rights that you'd like to retain? '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 22:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
	== Copied from ] - username change queue ==
			::{{replyto\|BozMo}} Indeed, thanks for your service both as an admin and as an editor; we've only met briefly on this project, but I remember your editing here and had very good impressions of it. There's one thing I think it's worth noting though: you won't be able to get your admin status back without an RFA because your last logged admin action was more than five years ago, in ], after ]. ] (]) 09:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

			== +bot for ] (userspace only bot) ==
	The bureaucrat who usually does the username changes (] will be inactive on Misplaced Pages until the end of October (as per his user page), and there is a long list of Wikipedians awaiting name changes who seem to be getting increasingly rowdier. Is there possibly another free bureaucrat who can take over his duties until he gets back? ] 13:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC) (or, hopefully, ])
	:The backlog is only two days, but still looks a bit long, so I decided to post this here. ] ] 13:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			Per the consensus established at ] here: ], my bot ] is authorized to edit within it's userspace making edits to ] (a BRFA is not required per ]).
	::We don't have any one Bureaucrat who is reponsible alone for any particular duty, Nichalp just prefers to focus on username change. This waiting period in answering the requests is happening because we only have 4 Bureaucrats who are active on a regular basis, and two of them are temporarily inactive. Don't worry, Taxman and I will get around to answering all of the requests. We always try to answer requests as soon as possible, but a waiting period of 48 to 72 hours is not uncommon in those cases. Regards, ] 13:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			I've tested for only a couple edits and can confirm it is working fully correctly, identifying the "egress" IPs of VPNgate (see discussion on VPT for what this means and why a bot is needed) and logging them in the userspace page - identifying ones used in past by MAB (59.129.113.197) and concerningly some unblocked ones (126.126.190.85, 222.98.171.131) in only a 7 IP sweep.
	:::Actually Essjay did the lion's share by far, and he's not as active now. I started a thread on ] relating to reducing the number of allowed reasons to change a username to reduce administrative and server overhead. Please comment there. - ] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 18:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

			Can it please get flagged with the bot perm, as currently it's running into very low rate limits preventing it from functioning correctly (as seen by the very few IPs its been allowed to add to the list)?
	:I'm back from a lengthy holiday, and will be available to help with bureaucrat duties for the foreseeable future. — ] \| ] 04:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

			Thank you. :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 05:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
	== Making it up as you go along ==
			:While BRFA is not required for userspace-only bots, it's better to file it anyway if you want a bot flag. – ] (]) 06:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
			::Okay, thank you! :) ] <sup>]]</sup> 06:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
			:{{not done}} per above, bots that needs flags need to go to ]. — ] <sup>]</sup> 10:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

			== RfA with no candidate acceptance or required disclosures ==
	I don't recall approving bureaucrats to hand out arbitrary lengths of adminship service because they don't really know how to make the decision. Adminship has ''never'', ''ever'' been handed out for 8 weeks at a time as a result of an RfA. Did you actually tell anyone anywhere taht you planned to do this if they supported Carnildo? Or are you just making it up as you go along? You don't own RfA, you merely implement its decisions, and no part of its decision referred to two months. -] - ] 13:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

			There is currently a ] which does not have a signature accepting or perform required disclosures. Best, ] (]) 18:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
	: I also object. I did not comment on ]; I can't recall having anything to do with this editor; so perhaps I'm neutral on him. I have been occasionally active on RfAs. This editor may be rehabilitated, a fine admin -- or not; I have no idea. I do see that the RfA was contentious and the tally borderline. My instinct in such matters is to err on the side of caution; I would invite the candidate to reapply in a few months and see if community sentiment changes. Guesstimating from the change since ], clear consensus may well form in favor -- then.

			:I'm not a crat but I un-transcluded it and left notices at various places. I know it's overstepping but I felt this was a very urgent situation since it may be an unauthorized RFA and the voters didn't seem to notice/care. (And the instructions are clear about acceptance before transclusion.) ] (]) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
	: I definitely ''don't'' like the precedent set by "temporary" adminship. Has this ever been done before? Has the community expressed any desire for this measure in general? Where does this door lead? B'crats are expected to make tough judgement decisions; it's routine. Is this a creative solution or a failure to make the call? Also, exactly under what circumstances and by what method will Carnildo's sysop privs "expire"? Who will make the decision to revoke or extend them? Sorry, but evaluating admin performance is ''not'' a b'crat function; it is ArbCom's or a steward's, if not the community's. ]] 15:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
			::Thanks for doing that. We can't have that. Maybe we need to change the RfA Template so it stops transcluding being possible without a parameter being met.
			::Happy for the transclusion to be reverted again when it is signed. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 19:28, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::Should the !votes be blanked? Given the answers to the three questions, I would presume Areaseven was not ready for this to be live. I think that it would be unfair to retain !votes based on incomplete information. ] (]/]) 19:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
			::::I have rolled back the nomination to the point pre-submission. If and when Areaseven is ready to run, they can accept the nomination and proceed as normal. ] (]) 20:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::::Yeah. Shame about the casual personal attack thrown in of course: the wholly unnecessary speculation as to the motives of those who voted. --]'']''] 21:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

			::::::{{ping\|Primefac}} . ] (]) 01:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
	::I was not involved in the decision that led to Carnildo's resysopping, but to clarify: his adminship is not temporary exactly. It is under probation. This means that, after a given period of time (two months), the ], not the Bureaucrats, will review his record as an admin for this period of time and decide on whether or not to remove his admin bit again or let it stay. If the decision is made to remove his adminship again, a member of the ArbCom will post on ], at a forum called ], where a ] will take care of the request and remove the flag. ] 16:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
			:::::::I've asked them to reconsider on their talk page, where they received bad advice to immediately accept after Levivich removed the transclusion. ] (]/]) 01:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

			== Resysop request (Daniel) ==

			*{{rfplinks\|Daniel}}

			Hi Bureaucrats, requesting return of the admin tools which I gave up in October. Was originally planning on waiting until the new year, but per ], upholding my timeline commitment of requesting back in late December instead (], ).

			Original desysop request ] in the BN archives for ease of reference.

			Thanks,<br>] (]) 01:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
			:Seems fine, admin activity as recently as October this year. Standard 24-hour hold applies. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
			::An early Welcome Back, ]! I look forward to seeing you at AFDLand should you want to spend some time there again. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 00:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::<small>I hope you also look forward to seeing him on the ArbCom mailing list where I expect you two will run into each other frequently... Best, ] (]) 00:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
			{{done}}

			Welcome back. I have restored your admin rights. '']]<span style="color:#CC5500">Chequers</span>'' 13:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
			:Thanks all. Looking forward to a busy 2025! Cheers, ] (]) 17:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Removal of Admin rights request (BozMo)

BozMo (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)

I am unlikely in the next year (until I retire Jan 2026) to be able to put much time into this project so would be happy to be de-sysoped. Thanks BozMo talk 22:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your service. I'll remove the bit now. Do you have any advanced rights that you'd like to retain? Lee Vilenski 22:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

@BozMo: Indeed, thanks for your service both as an admin and as an editor; we've only met briefly on this project, but I remember your editing here and had very good impressions of it. There's one thing I think it's worth noting though: you won't be able to get your admin status back without an RFA because your last logged admin action was more than five years ago, in December 2013, after this rule change. Graham87 (talk) 09:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

+bot for User:MolecularBot (userspace only bot)

Per the consensus established at WP:VPT here: WP:VPT#VPNgate blocking bot, my bot User:MolecularBot is authorized to edit within it's userspace making edits to User:MolecularBot/IPData.json (a BRFA is not required per WP:EXEMPTBOT).

I've tested for only a couple edits and can confirm it is working fully correctly, identifying the "egress" IPs of VPNgate (see discussion on VPT for what this means and why a bot is needed) and logging them in the userspace page - identifying ones used in past by MAB (59.129.113.197) and concerningly some unblocked ones (126.126.190.85, 222.98.171.131) in only a 7 IP sweep.

Can it please get flagged with the bot perm, as currently it's running into very low rate limits preventing it from functioning correctly (as seen by the very few IPs its been allowed to add to the list)?

Thank you. :) MolecularPilot 05:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

While BRFA is not required for userspace-only bots, it's better to file it anyway if you want a bot flag. – SD0001 (talk) 06:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! :) MolecularPilot 06:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done per above, bots that needs flags need to go to WP:BRFA. — xaosflux 10:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

RfA with no candidate acceptance or required disclosures

There is currently a live RfA which does not have a signature accepting or perform required disclosures. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a crat but I un-transcluded it and left notices at various places. I know it's overstepping but I felt this was a very urgent situation since it may be an unauthorized RFA and the voters didn't seem to notice/care. (And the instructions are clear about acceptance before transclusion.) Levivich (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. We can't have that. Maybe we need to change the RfA Template so it stops transcluding being possible without a parameter being met.

Happy for the transclusion to be reverted again when it is signed. Lee Vilenski 19:28, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Should the !votes be blanked? Given the answers to the three questions, I would presume Areaseven was not ready for this to be live. I think that it would be unfair to retain !votes based on incomplete information. voorts (talk/contributions) 19:55, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I have rolled back the nomination to the point pre-submission. If and when Areaseven is ready to run, they can accept the nomination and proceed as normal. Primefac (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. Shame about the casual personal attack thrown in of course: the wholly unnecessary speculation as to the motives of those who voted. --SerialNumber54129 21:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac: They've accepted. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I've asked them to reconsider on their talk page, where they received bad advice to immediately accept after Levivich removed the transclusion. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Resysop request (Daniel)

Daniel (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)

Hi Bureaucrats, requesting return of the admin tools which I gave up in October. Was originally planning on waiting until the new year, but per WP:ACE2024, upholding my timeline commitment of requesting back in late December instead (statement, comment).

Original desysop request here in the BN archives for ease of reference.

Thanks,
Daniel (talk) 01:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Seems fine, admin activity as recently as October this year. Standard 24-hour hold applies. — xaosflux 01:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

An early Welcome Back, Daniel! I look forward to seeing you at AFDLand should you want to spend some time there again. Liz 00:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I hope you also look forward to seeing him on the ArbCom mailing list where I expect you two will run into each other frequently... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Done

Welcome back. I have restored your admin rights. Ϣere SpielChequers 13:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks all. Looking forward to a busy 2025! Cheers, Daniel (talk) 17:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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