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==Juan Martin==


== Blocking Theposterizer ==
Hi - i have decided to continue with my edits for Juan Martin - any facts that i include into the artist will be citable. I ask in the interests of good natured writing,that you simply dont delete what you feel is incorrect, my information about Juan martins texhnique for instance comes from many books and articles.] 10:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


For one edit? ] (]) (]) 21:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thanks for your help on the ] page. I was going through the tit for tat thing for ages and saw no hope in sight. You seemed to be the only person willing to help and I appreciate it. Nick ] 06:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


: I think it's likely they were a returning user. ] (]) 22:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
== ''Family Guy'' ==
::I wanted to say, I'm sorry for writing disrespectful comments to you PhilKnight. ] (]) 00:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Also, for the Nurburgring article, the format's messed up (I swear I didn't do it), and someone keeps putting the wrong record for the Nordschleife section. I put 5:19.546, while the previous one put Stefan Bellof's time. Anyway, I'm sorry for being rude PhilKNight. ] (]) 00:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


== IP Edit Warrior at ] ==
You're welcome. So, do you have an opinion on ]? ] 23:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


Back again with their IPv6 range: . Grateful if you could take care of that when you have a minute. Thanks. ] (]) 12:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
== Margana ==


== <span class="plainlinks"></span> ==
Thanks for telling me. I will ask em. --]<sup>(])</sup> 05:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


Restore talk page access? ] (]) 16:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
== MedCab ==


:{{tps}} That's written by an LLM. ] (]) 16:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I see that you're active at quite a few pages that are in the active caseload. Does this mean that you've joined us in our pursuits? Let me know. ] 17:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


:: {{u|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, are you sure? According to Zerogpt it's human written. {{u|Deepfriedokra}}, I think it's good enough to restore talk page access. ] (]) 18:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I'm planning to join the cabal (not that it exists) after I get some more experience. I've only been editing for two months and lack understanding of many procedures. For example, if I had taken the ] case, at the start I wouldn't have realised the advice in ] states the description terrorist shouldn't be used. Also, if I had more experience, I would have a better appreciation regarding the consensus of what separates reliable from unreliable sources that was the central issue of ]. Hopefully, my editing doesn't get in the way... ] 17:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I'd bet at least 10 dollars on it. The use of language is entirely different from all prior appeals, as is the use of punctuation. The layout of
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:::is written exactly as a lot of LLMs crap things out. The last sentence also uses that open ended in conclusion style that LLMs use, and the request for reconsideration bullet point sets alarm bells ringing.
:::GPTzero gives it 100%, and zerogtp gives it 2.83%. My using ChatGPT as a tool for running dungeons and dragons games gives me 90+%. ] (]) 18:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)


:::: Okay, fair enough, perhaps don't restore talk page access. ] (]) 18:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
: Hey, after noticing your case involvement in several articles, don't you think you're ready to become a mediator yet? Regarding the sources issue, there sometimes is a fine line but Wiki does give some general guidelines to adhere to, like in the Political effects of Hurricane Katrina case (It's Misplaced Pages's policy on Reliable Sources). Anyway, it'll be great if you're willing to join the MedCab for real (that way you can be properly acknowledged)! ] 22:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::Okie dokie. Thanks. ] (]) 18:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::If you don't believe it's LLM generated you can restore access and let other admins and editors review it. I've been wrong before, and I'll certainly be wrong again. In this case I'm pretty sure, pulling TPA again is cheap. ] (]) 18:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::That is absolutely LLM-generated. -- ] (]) 18:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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::::::::The unblock request in question shows clear signs of human authorship due to its nuanced understanding of the context and the careful application of discretion. Unlike a Language Learning Model (LLM), which generates responses based on patterns and rules, a human writer often incorporates domain-specific expertise, subjective reasoning, and a personalized tone. These qualities are difficult to replicate convincingly in LLM-generated content.
::Ok, thanks for the encouragement. ] 11:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


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== CSICOP ==
Thanks Adhoc. I added some comments to the CSICOP talk page explaining my corrections. I also restored my corrections, which Davkal deleted. I think you noticed that my factual corrections (and addition) are not involved in the material being mediated. Nevertheless, Davkal deleted them, incorrectly claiming that I had agreed not to correct anything in the article. Hardly. I was particularly amused by his statement that he removed my "claim" about what the Robert P. Balles 2005 Prize was awarded. No, I inserted a fact that's clearly in the Skeptical Inquirer source that was cited. And then he suggests that if the information must be included, a very derogatory opinion must be included with it. Who is '''''this''''' guy?


::::::::The unblock request provides a structured argument that goes beyond simple logic or direct response generation. For example, it might anticipate objections, incorporate external factors such as organizational policies, or make references to specific scenarios. This layered reasoning suggests deliberate thought and an understanding of elements that an LLM would not infer without direct user input.
I haven't participated much in the CSICOP mediation to date because I have almost no knowledge of the dispute involving the Mars effect. I prefer to leave arguing out of ignorance to the woo-woos.] 22:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


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==Johnny Lee Clary==
I have been working on the Johnny Lee Clary article for a while now. It was deleted a while back (see http://en.wikipedia.org/Johnny_Lee_Clary) and I felt that it need to be revised. I have made a draft http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Potters_house/Johnny_Lee_Clary#See_also and have also worked on ] and made ]. If you have any imput or suggestions it would be appriciated. Oh and by the way I don't watch much TV and have only ever seen half an episode of family guy (seriously), thus why I can't really comment. ] 08:05, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


::::::::LLM outputs often follow predictable patterns or templates, particularly when handling requests like unblocking. A unique writing style, use of idiomatic expressions, or context-aware references in the unblock request points to human creativity rather than automated response generation. The presence of these elements demonstrates an understanding of subtleties that are beyond the capacity of an LLM without being explicitly prompted.
== Peoples' Global Action ==


::::::::These points indicate the unblock request's origin as human-generated, driven by expertise and adaptive reasoning. ] (]) 19:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC){{sup|{{small|(and totally not an LLM)}}}}
Hi Addhoc. As you are somewhat engaged with the ] article, I was wondering if you would mind giving your opinion on a debate taking place on the Talk page between myself and ]. The subject of the controversy is whether or not sources support linking PGA to the concept of ]. See ]. Your opinion would add a useful third-party perspective. Thanks! - ] 20:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::youre killing me ] (]) 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::An LLM cannot kill, even figuratively, because it has no physical presence, intent, or consciousness—it is a passive tool designed to process and generate text. Any harm attributed to an LLM comes from human misuse or interpretation, not from its own actions. The response provided here demonstrates nuanced reasoning and an intentional tone that clearly reflect human authorship, as an LLM would not self-reference or engage in this type of verification. By its nature, an LLM lacks the capacity for independent decision-making, let alone causing harm, and this explanation was crafted without relying on an automated system. ] (]) 19:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::When the LLMs get just a little better we're going to buried under such an incredible deluge of bullshit. ] (]) 19:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::My semi-professional opinion is that unless someone comes out with another bombshell like ], they're not headed to get ''much'' better, unless highly specialized. Not looking forward to the ANI thread about the first guy who spins up a solid ] or ] article generator. -- ] (]) 20:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


== NikeTalk == == Block evasion ==


Greetings, Phil,
Hello Addhoc. You recently placed a 'delete' vote in the following article: ]
I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to draw your attention towards one of the LTAs, ], aka ], who has been here to promote his spam blog for years, ]. ] was blocked by Rosguill as the sock of ], who is the only founder of The Chenab Times and a long-term spammer. It seems they are again with another ] account {{No ping|ParineetiShah}} to have their website's Misplaced Pages article. In March 2024, {{u|Courcelles}} blocked the new account ] for the same purpose and salted the page (autoconfirmed) based on the discussions and . I believe this time they are back with the autoconfirmed ] account and a different strategy to have their blog's Misplaced Pages article. I think it needs a tougher salting this time to prevent this long-term abuse. A quick look at the history of the previous version of the deleted draft will be helpful here. I will request you to kindly look into this case. Regards, ] (]) 20:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)


: Hi {{u|Maliner}}, I think the evidence you have provided would be enough for a checkuser, but isn't sufficient for a block. The problem is that the accounts to compare a checkuser to are stale. Other admins may disagree, so I suggest you file a ] to bring this to a wider audience. ] (]) 20:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
You mentioned that you'd consider changing your vote if notability were further substantiated. Please check the article again, if you would. You'll find that the article has been completely rewritten by Wiki user Pixelface and all of the references check out. The included links to articles from Newsweek, Time, Adbusters magazine, the LA Times, and others are all valid and the site has independently collected webstats to verify its 85,000 unique visitor per day average.
::@] Thanks Phil I will do that. ] (]) 09:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks, Phil, for your guidance. They are blocked now. Since I have done some work with you at SPI, I just need your opinion, whether I should apply for {{tq|trainee}} SPI clerk or should I take some more time to familiarize myself with sock masters and sock puppets before applying? You can have a look at the ]. Your opinion in this regard will be appreciated. Regards. ] (]) 16:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::: Hi {{u|Maliner}}, I would suggest applying as you have nothing to lose. ] (]) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] Thanks! ] (]) 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)


== Kinda delayed rename request ==
I think you'll agree that this crosses the notability threshold, and given that the article has been completely rewritten I'm hoping you'll consider changing your vote to 'keep.' Those who care about this entry have done everything asked of them. This issue shouldn't be decided by those who haven't taken but a second to judge it. Please take the time to review the sources and make the right call. It's possible that no one else will vote, and your decision may very well determine whether this little entry stays or goes.


I just noticed ]. Usually the renaming parts of unblock-spamun are done before I notice it; might this have been overlooked, or am I missing a detail? ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 23:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)


: Hi Jpgordon, I have renamed the user. ] (]) 23:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your time. {{unsigned| 69.243.118.30}}


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FYI: I have no intention of editing the article. I indicated in one of my posts
that I cannot possibly be objective -- at least not at this moment, and probably
not for some time. I would consider it the job of someone else to sort through
the talk page stuff and make changes to the article that they deem appropriate.


== Blocked for reverting CITE SPAM?!? ==
It is not (quite) a matter of being "convinced by the OM approach".
That's not the main point of my posts. THe main point is to understand the total
dynamic that surrounds this issue, and the very powerful forces that underlie
the dynamic, and the way in which the pedestrian "skeptic" stuff plays-in
to the agenda of those forces. In other words it is a matter of ''understanding''
what is going on, not so much agreeing with one or other (trivial) system of medical
techniques. My very last posts today, I hope, outlined the bredth of the point I
am trying to make. My objective was to place the (relatively trivial) "OM" issue
in what I believe to be its proper, broad context.


I wish you would have BOTHERED TO CHECK THE EDIT HISTORY. I have been everting obvious COI CITESPAM.
Also, I have no ''personal'' issues with anyone, i.e. with any individual. I am
talking about a social/group phenomenon. The specific individuals are quite
unimportant. I hope I made that clear, but maybe I failed. I consider other
individuals "guilty" not AS individuals so much as as participants in a social
and group/psychic process of which they might not be entirely aware (or even
aware at all). To whatever extent they ARE aware, then they do have some
personal responsibility.
Hope all that coheres.


https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Traffic_simulation&oldid=1258419722
Thanks again.


Misplaced Pages is EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND UNPLEASANT.
aka "AEL" --> ] 22:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


:: Yes, I made a mistake and undid it moments later. In my defense, you could have left an edit summary on edit and the mistake wouldn't have happened. ] (]) 20:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
== "Use short sentences and lists"? ==


== Harry the house ==
Regarding your comment on my talk page just now, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Please clarify. ] 23:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for blocking ]. ]. ] (]) 17:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
:Wasn't my text, I was reverting it due to the temporary edit stop we had agreed upon for that article. We'll make sure to write it in a better way when it is edited later, after the mediation has run its course. ] 15:50, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


: Thanks. Done. ] (]) 17:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
== RfC Tatsuma ==


== Croissant ==
Hi. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your comments and did reply (twice). I just wanted to leave a note here incase you're not watching that page, and I think you are right. I should have tried ] first, but after a month I just wasn't sure of how to deal with the situation on ], and an RfC was suggested by another editor via IRC. Anyway, thank you for your input. - ] 18:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi PhilKnight, someone added Austria in infobox again as the origin of ] despite the discussion and consensus agreeing to put France only. ] (]) 07:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
== Welcome to the AMA ==


We're glad to have you. --] <small>('']'')</small> 17:28, 2 September 2006 (UTC) : Thanks. I undid their edit, and asked them to take it to the talk page. ] (]) 19:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)


== Sockpuppet investigations ==
== Thanks ==
Wow! thank you for the award. that's my first one.] 19:30, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi, an (which I'm sure is part of this investigation ]). Since I don't know how to open a new discussion, please check and block this ] editor. Thanks! ] (]) 14:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
==Herding cats==
Well, I will look forward to your future edits on ]. Best wishes. ] (]) 23:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC) : {{done}}. ] (]) 15:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::@] Hi, I come back with the same problem, a . Please review and if necessary block it. Thanks! ] (]) 10:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
::: Blocked. Thanks. ] (]) 11:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:@] {{tpw}} For what it's worth, Twinkle can help with opening new SPI discussions. However, experienced as I am, I've never used that feature, and might be tempted do as you just did if I were to mess up. ] ] ] 21:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
::@] Thanks for the advice I will try using Twinkle in the future. ] (]) 10:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


== Completely false information how to edit? ==
== Michel Thomas article: Mediation Cabal ==
You wrote: "Probably close soon, as not within our remit." Can you explain a bit? Can you suggest what steps I should take next regarding the edit war here? ] 18:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi PhilKnight,
Hi, you listed your principal objective as "to bar or restrict Rivenburg from further edits", this isn't part of the mediation-cabal's remit. If you want to place restrictions on someone (probation) or ban them completely, there is a process that is described in ]. ] 18:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


I am navigating a Czech language version and have come across a person who has created a totally false Misplaced Pages page with totally false information about himself and his relationship to a well-know family. He has appropriated a last name that is not his and is stating that he is directly related to people to whom he is not related at all. How can I edit this false information ( basically all the page?) This is the page- https://cs.wikipedia.org/Wikipedista:Pavel_Kinsk%C3%BD I appreciate any response ] (]) 09:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
== List of terrorist organisations - Hindu ==


: You need to contact the administrators on the Czech language Misplaced Pages. I don't have any relationship to the Czech language version. ] (]) 11:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
My views in a nutshell as requested.
::Thanks, it's a bit hard to find who to contact but I will try ] (]) 06:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
==Open proxy==
Can you have a look at ], it appears to be an open proxy as well ]. Thanks. - ] (]) 17:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)


: {{done}}. ] (]) 17:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
] is a controversial article. It attracts people with strong and often polemical views that often go to the heart of a person's identity. Hence it is always going to have arguments and disagreements. I have contributed a significant amount to this article and other related ones such as ].


== Administrators' newsletter – December 2024 ==
I would prefer that this article '''only''' considered organisations that had been designated as terrorist by a governmental or supragovenmental body which had the power to have a significant impact on that organisation. This is how the intro is currently worded - largely as a result of my edits. However, others have different views, including some who think that all organisations who have done acts that are generally accepted as "terrorist" should be included, even if they haven't been designated as such. I don't feel that the intro at the moment - despite its wording - reflects a strong consensus, which is why I haven't (yet) gone through and pruned out all the organisations listed that haven't been designated.


] from the past month (November 2024).
On the Hindu ones, my understanding is that VHP, RSS and Shiv Sena are others are certainly extremist organisations that have been involved in anti-Muslim (and for that matter anti-Christian) agitation and violence including the ] and 1992 ]. However, I am not aware of any Hindu organisations (except the ] which is listed as a Tamil rather than Hindu organisation and the ] website) which are actually proscribed by anyone. Throughout all the edits none of the sources provided have indicated that an organisation is banned.


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My preference is that VHP etc are therefore '''not''' included, although as I said above I recognise that other criteria - which would have them listed - may be equally valid to mine.


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User sm ashiq has re-introduced the Hindu section on that List. This time he/she hasn't even provided viable links. No links to govts that actually ban these organizations. And the question is how will you ban them? They are functioning political groups in India. I have to disagree with AndrewRT about the inclusion of these groups as extremist. They are extremist only because the current govt is pseudo-secularist and derives most of its vote-bank from muslims, communist parties etc who have no interest in maintaining communal harmony or a secular environment. When hindus are killed in kashmir, there is no action against the terrorists(early 2006) when hindus are killed in bombay, the govt does nothing(other than saying we must maintain restraint.) This kind of a status-quo is not acceptable to most Hindus. Either the govt takes action against the terrorists and extremist muslims who connive with pakistani intelligence agencies or Hindus will have to take matters into their own hands. After the bombing of a temple and railway station in varanasi, nothing really happened. Because those who carried out the bombings were related to muslims who voted for the current govt in that state, the govt therefore was not inclined to take any action against them. Expecting Hindus to sit back and do nothing when their security is threatened is not really possible in India. And that is why you see such retaliations. Mob behaviour is not limited to just religious tensions. It also occurs frequently in traffic accidents and accidental deaths. Open a newspaper in India and you will find one or two accounts a week. ] 09:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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:Ok, I don't want to get into a lengthy debate here, we agree the groups are not listed as terrorists by any governments. Unfortunately, if Sm ashiq doesn't respond to the message I've left for him, the mediation would have to be closed. ] 10:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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== ] ==

Phil, I know Sean posted after your decline. I also knew that he hadn't pinged you. That's why I did. I didn't mean to imply that you had missed the comment when you declined.--] (]) 14:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

: Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. ] (]) 14:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

== Thank you! ==

Thank you so much for resolving the misunderstanding and unblocking me, I really-really appreciate it!

While I was blocked and reading virtually everything there is on blocking, I read that there is a practice of giving a short block to a person and writing the reason the previous block was cancelled. If it is possible and appropriate, I would like to request it so that my block log can reflect that we've established that I am not Hamish Ross. I understand that I got on the radar because all I do is revert unconstructive edits and sending out warnings, so I am worried that this situation may repeat in the future.

And another small question, is it appropriate for me to clean up my talk page and remove the block/unblock discussions? Once again, huge thank you for your time and effort! ] (]) 10:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

: No problem. I blocked you for one second, and left a note. You are free to remove the block/unblock discussions. ] (]) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

== QC Concern ==

Hello; I don't know if this is the right place or format to raise this issue, but I trust that an administrator would be able to figure it out.

A brief look at the edit history of the ] page led me to ] (is this the right page to link here?) - This contributor has a bad track record of low-quality posts from what I saw in the edit history pages; poor changes and habits which lead to confusingly worded, obfuscated, or outright false information. I am not sure what to do with this information since I do not use much of the community part of Misplaced Pages, but I felt it should be noted somewhere. ] (]) 15:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi, if you feel administrative action such as a ] should be used against them, the correct forum to post your concerns is ]. You will need ] of problematic conduct. However, given the user is quite new, I would recommend you let it go for now, ans see how they develop as they continue editing. ] (]) 15:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

== YGM ==

{{ygm}} ] (]) 19:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

== New article for Appian Capital Advisory ==

Hello {{u|PhilKnight}}. I am the ] for Appian Capital Advisory, the private equity company. I noticed your participation in ] and am reaching out to ask you to review ] I put together for the firm. I'd appreciate your feedback and help in getting this article to mainspace Misplaced Pages. Thank you, ] (]) 14:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi {{u|AT for Appian}}, I see that Paper9oll has to you. He knows more than I do about drafts. ] (]) 22:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

== IP-block ==

Can you extend the block for to ], or protect that page? {{yo|Doug Weller|El C}} informing the two of you as well, as I am now involving multiple admins, with apologies for the inconvenience. ] - ] 17:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)<br>
See also , , and the . ] - ] 18:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

:Just letting you know that I am a different person, so I can save you from totally becoming paranoid. It's better if you take part in the Talk page discussion started by that other IP. However, whenever your POV pushing is challenged, this seems to be your natural reaction instead of proper engagement. Anyway, I reverted your latest revert of that IP because you are unilaterally and relentlessly pushing your views on these pages without any discussion with anyone. ] (]) 18:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

== Reblock a range, please ==

The range ] could use your attention again. The person keeps inserting the name Laura Aguirre. Thanks in advance. ] (]) 20:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
: Blocked the /64 for 3 months. Thanks. ] (]) 20:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

== Re:Unblock request ==
I saw you ping to me at the blocked user’s page. If you guys want to downgrade the indef to a partial block I’m cool with it, however this account has shown a preponderance for both ignoring consensus and mild ownership issues, if we downgrade the indef block we should be prepared to monitor the account for compliance. - (an unclogged in TomStar81) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Autoconfirmed ==

'''When I go to: Misplaced Pages:User access levels, it says I am autoconfirmed; but I have a template on my user page and when I click it, it says no matching logs.'''

Here is the link to Misplaced Pages:User access levels for me:

<u>
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Autoconfirmed_users</u>

Here is the link of what it goes to when I click verify on the template:

<u>
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:UserRights&user=MersmanD</u>

Any ideas? ] (]) 13:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

: Sorry, no idea. ] (]) 19:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for looking into it. ] (]) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== NextEditor123 ==

Could I get you to reconsider your decision to unblock this editor as they have gone right back to the edit wars that led to the block in the first place? Their first two edits back were to restore their preferred versions of ] and ]. Thank you. ] (]) 17:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
: If you think their actions are block worthy, I won't object if you block them. ] (]) 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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== Blocking Dngmin ==

The user ] deleting several informations and section on ] article for past few days, thus creating a lot of work for others to undo. ] (]) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

: Hi {{u|Puchicatos}}, I would suggest making a thread on the ] board. Remember to include ]. ] (]) 03:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you ] (]) 03:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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Blocking Theposterizer

For one edit? UnsungHistory (Questions or Concerns?) (See how I messed up) 21:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I think it's likely they were a returning user. PhilKnight (talk) 22:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to say, I'm sorry for writing disrespectful comments to you PhilKnight. 23.242.152.4 (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Also, for the Nurburgring article, the format's messed up (I swear I didn't do it), and someone keeps putting the wrong record for the Nordschleife section. I put 5:19.546, while the previous one put Stefan Bellof's time. Anyway, I'm sorry for being rude PhilKNight. 23.242.152.4 (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

IP Edit Warrior at Second Life

Back again with their IPv6 range: . Grateful if you could take care of that when you have a minute. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

UTRS appeal #92777

Restore talk page access? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:04, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) That's written by an LLM. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
ScottishFinnishRadish, are you sure? According to Zerogpt it's human written. Deepfriedokra, I think it's good enough to restore talk page access. PhilKnight (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I'd bet at least 10 dollars on it. The use of language is entirely different from all prior appeals, as is the use of punctuation. The layout of
  • Point
    explanation
  • point
    explanation
  • point
    explanation
is written exactly as a lot of LLMs crap things out. The last sentence also uses that open ended in conclusion style that LLMs use, and the request for reconsideration bullet point sets alarm bells ringing.
GPTzero gives it 100%, and zerogtp gives it 2.83%. My using ChatGPT as a tool for running dungeons and dragons games gives me 90+%. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Okay, fair enough, perhaps don't restore talk page access. PhilKnight (talk) 18:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Okie dokie. Thanks. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:45, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
If you don't believe it's LLM generated you can restore access and let other admins and editors review it. I've been wrong before, and I'll certainly be wrong again. In this case I'm pretty sure, pulling TPA again is cheap. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
That is absolutely LLM-generated. -- asilvering (talk) 18:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Expertise and Human Oversight
The unblock request in question shows clear signs of human authorship due to its nuanced understanding of the context and the careful application of discretion. Unlike a Language Learning Model (LLM), which generates responses based on patterns and rules, a human writer often incorporates domain-specific expertise, subjective reasoning, and a personalized tone. These qualities are difficult to replicate convincingly in LLM-generated content.
  • Structured Justification
The unblock request provides a structured argument that goes beyond simple logic or direct response generation. For example, it might anticipate objections, incorporate external factors such as organizational policies, or make references to specific scenarios. This layered reasoning suggests deliberate thought and an understanding of elements that an LLM would not infer without direct user input.
  • Adaptive and Non-Patterned Language
LLM outputs often follow predictable patterns or templates, particularly when handling requests like unblocking. A unique writing style, use of idiomatic expressions, or context-aware references in the unblock request points to human creativity rather than automated response generation. The presence of these elements demonstrates an understanding of subtleties that are beyond the capacity of an LLM without being explicitly prompted.
These points indicate the unblock request's origin as human-generated, driven by expertise and adaptive reasoning. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
youre killing me asilvering (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
An LLM cannot kill, even figuratively, because it has no physical presence, intent, or consciousness—it is a passive tool designed to process and generate text. Any harm attributed to an LLM comes from human misuse or interpretation, not from its own actions. The response provided here demonstrates nuanced reasoning and an intentional tone that clearly reflect human authorship, as an LLM would not self-reference or engage in this type of verification. By its nature, an LLM lacks the capacity for independent decision-making, let alone causing harm, and this explanation was crafted without relying on an automated system. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
When the LLMs get just a little better we're going to buried under such an incredible deluge of bullshit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
My semi-professional opinion is that unless someone comes out with another bombshell like Attention Is All You Need, they're not headed to get much better, unless highly specialized. Not looking forward to the ANI thread about the first guy who spins up a solid WP:NSPECIES or WP:NPROF article generator. -- asilvering (talk) 20:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Block evasion

Greetings, Phil, I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to draw your attention towards one of the LTAs, User:TheChunky, aka User:Anzer Ayoob, who has been here to promote his spam blog for years, Draft:The Chenab Times. User:TheChunky was blocked by Rosguill as the sock of User:Anzer Ayoob, who is the only founder of The Chenab Times and a long-term spammer. It seems they are again with another WP:SPA account ParineetiShah to have their website's Misplaced Pages article. In March 2024, Courcelles blocked the new account User:Augum for the same purpose and salted the page (autoconfirmed) based on the discussions and . I believe this time they are back with the autoconfirmed WP:SPA account and a different strategy to have their blog's Misplaced Pages article. I think it needs a tougher salting this time to prevent this long-term abuse. A quick look at the history of the previous version of the deleted draft will be helpful here. I will request you to kindly look into this case. Regards, Maliner (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Maliner, I think the evidence you have provided would be enough for a checkuser, but isn't sufficient for a block. The problem is that the accounts to compare a checkuser to are stale. Other admins may disagree, so I suggest you file a WP:SPI to bring this to a wider audience. PhilKnight (talk) 20:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Thanks Phil I will do that. Maliner (talk) 09:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, Phil, for your guidance. They are blocked now. Since I have done some work with you at SPI, I just need your opinion, whether I should apply for trainee SPI clerk or should I take some more time to familiarize myself with sock masters and sock puppets before applying? You can have a look at the User:Maliner/SPI log. Your opinion in this regard will be appreciated. Regards. Maliner (talk) 16:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi Maliner, I would suggest applying as you have nothing to lose. PhilKnight (talk) 19:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Thanks! Maliner (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Kinda delayed rename request

I just noticed User talk:Creatives Garage. Usually the renaming parts of unblock-spamun are done before I notice it; might this have been overlooked, or am I missing a detail? --jpgordon 23:39, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jpgordon, I have renamed the user. PhilKnight (talk) 23:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Blocked for reverting CITE SPAM?!?

I wish you would have BOTHERED TO CHECK THE EDIT HISTORY. I have been everting obvious COI CITESPAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Traffic_simulation&oldid=1258419722

Misplaced Pages is EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND UNPLEASANT.

Yes, I made a mistake and undid it moments later. In my defense, you could have left an edit summary on this edit and the mistake wouldn't have happened. PhilKnight (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Harry the house

Thanks for blocking this one. Here's another. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 17:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Done. PhilKnight (talk) 17:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Croissant

Hi PhilKnight, someone added Austria in infobox again as the origin of croissant despite the discussion and consensus agreeing to put France only. 2A02:8388:8C45:BD00:294C:15BC:37D7:945D (talk) 07:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I undid their edit, and asked them to take it to the talk page. PhilKnight (talk) 19:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations

Hi, an editor intentionally has an indentic name (which I'm sure is part of this investigation Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Herktik78/Archive). Since I don't know how to open a new discussion, please check and block this WP:SOCK editor. Thanks! Plugaru (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done. PhilKnight (talk) 15:29, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
@PhilKnight Hi, I come back with the same problem, a new account was created by the same person. Please review and if necessary block it. Thanks! Plugaru (talk) 10:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Blocked. Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 11:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
@Plugaru (talk page watcher) For what it's worth, Twinkle can help with opening new SPI discussions. However, experienced as I am, I've never used that feature, and might be tempted do as you just did if I were to mess up. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 21:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
@I dream of horses Thanks for the advice I will try using Twinkle in the future. Plugaru (talk) 10:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Completely false information how to edit?

Hi PhilKnight,

I am navigating a Czech language version and have come across a person who has created a totally false Misplaced Pages page with totally false information about himself and his relationship to a well-know family. He has appropriated a last name that is not his and is stating that he is directly related to people to whom he is not related at all. How can I edit this false information ( basically all the page?) This is the page- https://cs.wikipedia.org/Wikipedista:Pavel_Kinsk%C3%BD I appreciate any response Rebellion47 (talk) 09:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

You need to contact the administrators on the Czech language Misplaced Pages. I don't have any relationship to the Czech language version. PhilKnight (talk) 11:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, it's a bit hard to find who to contact but I will try Rebellion47 (talk) 06:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Open proxy

Can you have a look at Special:Contributions/14.192.213.202, it appears to be an open proxy as well ]. Thanks. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done. PhilKnight (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/AndresHerutJaim

Phil, I know Sean posted after your decline. I also knew that he hadn't pinged you. That's why I did. I didn't mean to imply that you had missed the comment when you declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry for the misunderstanding. PhilKnight (talk) 14:52, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for resolving the misunderstanding and unblocking me, I really-really appreciate it!

While I was blocked and reading virtually everything there is on blocking, I read that there is a practice of giving a short block to a person and writing the reason the previous block was cancelled. If it is possible and appropriate, I would like to request it so that my block log can reflect that we've established that I am not Hamish Ross. I understand that I got on the radar because all I do is revert unconstructive edits and sending out warnings, so I am worried that this situation may repeat in the future.

And another small question, is it appropriate for me to clean up my talk page and remove the block/unblock discussions? Once again, huge thank you for your time and effort! Cryo Cavalry (talk) 10:54, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

No problem. I blocked you for one second, and left a note. You are free to remove the block/unblock discussions. PhilKnight (talk) 11:56, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

QC Concern

Hello; I don't know if this is the right place or format to raise this issue, but I trust that an administrator would be able to figure it out.

A brief look at the edit history of the Annoying Orange page led me to User talk:TheFlamer2024 (is this the right page to link here?) - This contributor has a bad track record of low-quality posts from what I saw in the edit history pages; poor changes and habits which lead to confusingly worded, obfuscated, or outright false information. I am not sure what to do with this information since I do not use much of the community part of Misplaced Pages, but I felt it should be noted somewhere. HabrosNitwit (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, if you feel administrative action such as a block should be used against them, the correct forum to post your concerns is WP:ANI. You will need diffs of problematic conduct. However, given the user is quite new, I would recommend you let it go for now, ans see how they develop as they continue editing. PhilKnight (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

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New article for Appian Capital Advisory

Hello PhilKnight. I am the declared COI editor for Appian Capital Advisory, the private equity company. I noticed your participation in WikiProject Companies and am reaching out to ask you to review the wiki draft I put together for the firm. I'd appreciate your feedback and help in getting this article to mainspace Misplaced Pages. Thank you, AT for Appian (talk) 14:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi AT for Appian, I see that Paper9oll has replied to you. He knows more than I do about drafts. PhilKnight (talk) 22:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

IP-block

Can you extend the block for this IP to Arthashastra, or protect that page? @Doug Weller and El C: informing the two of you as well, as I am now involving multiple admins, with apologies for the inconvenience. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
See also diff, diff, and the IP-hopping. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Just letting you know that I am a different person, so I can save you from totally becoming paranoid. It's better if you take part in the Talk page discussion started by that other IP. However, whenever your POV pushing is challenged, this seems to be your natural reaction instead of proper engagement. Anyway, I reverted your latest revert of that IP because you are unilaterally and relentlessly pushing your views on these pages without any discussion with anyone. 103.92.120.14 (talk) 18:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Reblock a range, please

The range Special:Contributions/2603:8081:8BF0:3B30:0:0:0:0/64 could use your attention again. The person keeps inserting the name Laura Aguirre. Thanks in advance. Binksternet (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Blocked the /64 for 3 months. Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Re:Unblock request

I saw you ping to me at the blocked user’s page. If you guys want to downgrade the indef to a partial block I’m cool with it, however this account has shown a preponderance for both ignoring consensus and mild ownership issues, if we downgrade the indef block we should be prepared to monitor the account for compliance. - (an unclogged in TomStar81) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B13B:4672:D8B7:9D43:C2E7:20B1 (talk) 00:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed

When I go to: Misplaced Pages:User access levels, it says I am autoconfirmed; but I have a template on my user page and when I click it, it says no matching logs.

Here is the link to Misplaced Pages:User access levels for me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:User_access_levels#Autoconfirmed_users

Here is the link of what it goes to when I click verify on the template:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:UserRights&user=MersmanD

Any ideas? MersmanD (talk) 13:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea. PhilKnight (talk) 19:37, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it. MersmanD (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

NextEditor123

Could I get you to reconsider your decision to unblock this editor as they have gone right back to the edit wars that led to the block in the first place? Their first two edits back were to restore their preferred versions of Yannick Carrasco and Jimmy Greaves. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

If you think their actions are block worthy, I won't object if you block them. PhilKnight (talk) 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello PhilKnight, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,
Abishe (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Blocking Dngmin

The user Dngmin deleting several informations and section on Byeon Woo-seok article for past few days, thus creating a lot of work for others to undo. Puchicatos (talk) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Puchicatos, I would suggest making a thread on the WP:ANI board. Remember to include diffs. PhilKnight (talk) 03:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you Puchicatos (talk) 03:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)