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| == Fresh start == | |||
| Hi Paul, | |||
| In an effort to stave off being stalked and harassed, I have since 2006 used the sockpuppets ] (]), ] (]), ] (]), ] (]) and ] (]). I am returning to my original account, renouncing all others, and hope to work in a collegiate spirit with my fellow editors. ] (]) 05:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| Just wanted to let you know now that the question has been archived that I haven't forgotten our discussion, I'd just got to the point where I wanted to refresh my memory of the stuff involved before I got myself in any deeper. I will get back to you when I've managed to find a decent chunk of uninterrupted time to really concentrate on it and get it straight in my own head before trying to explain it to you. Probably best if we carry on on talk pages, though, if that's OK with you? --] 15:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello Paul venter, I just thought I'd let you know that I saw your article ] in the New Articles list-- You did an excellent job uploading an image to the article.However, I think the article seems to contain a few errors: the references in the article do not follow Misplaced Pages guidelines. There is a tutorial on formatting citations at ].It would be great if you could also ] for the related article ]. | |||
| The world around us has waited for a few billion years for us to stumble on its mechanisms - a few weeks more will make no difference. However, I'm getting close to my threescore and ten.... never know when one's going to pop off! Thanks for the time and effort - I'm genuinely appreciative. --] 17:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| thx for coming to the rescue - i have uploaded an image of Canary Pine bark and would like to place it on the Canary Pine page.....how do i go about it. | |||
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| :Hi, simply put <nowiki>]</nowiki> on the page. For example, if the image was called CanaryPine.jpg, type <nowiki>]</nowiki>. The <nowiki>]</nowiki>, for example. There are many other features that are documented at ] and ]. Hope this helps! Cheers, ]]] 15:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| OK, I've done most of them. "]" and "]" are still unclear however... Also, some the common names correspond to more than one species, so for these I chose the most common reference. --] 12:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Hi Paul - ''Swietenia mahagoni'' is the correct spelling (I know it's not what one might expect, but it is the spelling used in the original scientific description) - ] 00:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the note; IPNI actually list all the variant spellings without favouring or rejecting any; looking through their ''Swietenia'' , the basionym is ''Cedrela mahagoni'' L. ; it was transferred to ''Swietenia'' by Jacquin in 1760, and as afr as I can tell from the IPNI listings, that remains the correct name in ''Swietenia''; the other spellings are all later (Lamarck on the early 1800s, and de Candolle a little later) and thus synonyms under the ICBN. The also use ''Swietenia mahagoni'', and they are generally very reliable in their nomenclature. I can't find any info to suggest there's been a formal proposal to change the spelling - ] 12:46, 13 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| == Comments in Big Bang Article == | |||
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| Paul, on the Big Bang talk page you wrote that, "The history of science revolves around the contributions of dedicated and brilliant amateurs.(Perhaps this is material for an article that might instil some hubris in arrogant professional scientists). My view of a scientist is perhaps slightly broader than that he should have some paper qualification certifying his expertise in some narrow field. As for experience, a lot of professional scientists seem to confuse that with growing older, or with how many trivial papers they have published in a suitably prestigious journal. I have found throughout my life, that the true scientist is neither arrogant nor patronising, that he is unstinting in giving of his time, and that his curiosity about the world around him, knows no bounds. These are the people who stand out from the common crowd. Science is shamed by such vainglorious strutting." | |||
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| Aside from your use of the word hubris as an antonym for arrogance (when it in fact is a synonym of it), I completely agree with the substance of your statement. Which is why - rather than strutting around in life talking about how great science is and lording it over other people - I have instead devoted myself to a tireless effort of public education, outreach, public lectures, tours of research facilities, volunteering at elementary schools, high schools, and colleges, tutuoring, collaborating with people from all over the world, and pushing myself to be a life-long learner, taking every difficult class I can and reading books for which there are no classes. In my enthusiasm for sharing this knowledge (and more to the point of improving the quality of articles here on Misplaced Pages), it may come across as hubris to you but you are honestly the first person who has mentioned something like that to me. And while your statements above ring true for science as a philosophy, that "amateurs" have been the backbone of scientific progress it is important to note that the amateurs you speak of have been individuals who have dedicated their lives and passion to studying those fields and support fields like physics and mathematics. They may have been amateurs but they also had aptitude. This category of lifelong passion is the one into which I fall, and in fact only recently did I finish my graduate degree and become, formally, a scientist. I have however been a scientist long before I got a degree, and while the degree doesn't make a scientist for sure the aptitude does and must. You cannot pick a person at random off the street and find that they have an aptitude for differential equations or the operation of x-ray spectrometers, or even basic calculus 101 for that matter. So when an individual with aptitude offers her or his expertise, it would be naive to call that hubris, especially when there is so much confusion and misconception on so many topics wihtin the sciences as fundamental as the second law of thermodynamics, basic vector algebra, and so on. So please don't take my comments on the Big Bang talk page as a personal slight against you. My desire, as always, is to hold Wiki articles to the highest standards and to share knowledge with others on topics for which many have opinions but few spend their lives devoted to the exploration of. My experience in the fields of astrophysics and engineering make me an asset to that end, not an arrogant liability. (please forgive all the prepositions) Regards, ] 22:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :Astrobayes, quite right about hubris - I should parse my writing before hitting SAVE. Competence and aptitude, I am afraid, are not sufficient qualities to vouchsafe a scientist. In all my years of working with and in the scientific community, I have come to realise that there are vapid people sheltering behind the protective mantle of PhD's and the security of tenure. These same people are regarded as competent in their field. What they lack is quite simply curiosity about any other areas of life. To me, this curiosity is the only redeeming quality that we have and supersedes altruism, charity, love and of course faith and hope. I could happily share a desert isle with Adolf Hitler or Gengis Khan, because I think they would be truly interesting people and not the thorough villains which society has brainwashed us into believing. I digress.... | |||
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| :To return, one of the necessary marks of the scientist (to my mind, obviously) is a curiosity about all things, and this desire to know can crop up in the most unexpected places. I have taught the basics of science to all sorts of people, and once in a while that golden moment arrives when you can sense the excitement and awe of someone's understanding a difficult concept for the first time - these occasions are precious. Somewhere in Misplaced Pages I wrote some rules for volunteers working on the reference desk to bear in mind before dismissing a question as frivolous or idiotic. Part of it was a reminder that potential scientists can come from the most unpromising backgrounds and that the treatment they receive, can douse the spark or turn it into a raging fire. Therefor, watch out for the facile use of labels like AMATEUR or INCOMPETENT, because they very easily turn into blinkers that can blind one to the truth. | |||
| To life!!! ] 12:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Please see my reply at ]. Thanks! ] (]) 19:21, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::Paul, you and I apparently share the same passion for life and curiosity about Nature. We might both agree with Einstein, who said "the great mystery of the Universe is its comprehensibility." I look forward to contributing to some of the same articles with you here on Wiki in the future, as we both have the same goal. And again, if what I stated came across as hubris, please accept my apologies. I cannot mask my enthusiasm to share my experiences working in the field of astrophysics and physics in general, but indeed you're right that it bears considering the backgrounds and sensibilities of others. Any can have passion about the natural world, and a little patience goes a long way. I must admit that I have grown frustrated over the years with some of my students not caring about science and math, and not only registering for the course ("to get the credit") but also then arguing about the subject material or sleeping through a discussion. I didn't intend for that frustration to translate over to my contributions and comments in Wiki. ...something for me to think about. Take care, and may the (],],],]) be with you! Cheers, ] 18:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| == Hieronymus Harder == | |||
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| Hello Paul! I've been following your edits at ]. I'm hoping you are adding inline sources to support your individual points, so they can stay in the article. I was waiting until you finish your ] article to make any changes (soon?), but in the Binomial article the Hieronymus info belongs in the history section (if it is sourced) instead of the lead. | |||
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| I'm very curious what your sources say about 1) whether he always used a binomial or only partially, and 2) how much, if any, he talked about a ''system'' of binomial nomenclature as proposed for use by everyone. Thanks for the info! --] (]) 10:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Hi Tom, No, I don't have any sources in which Harder made notes specifically about Binomial nomenclature, but only index pages from his ''Herbarium vivum'' which clearly display his use of the idea. From the image I posted at ] it should be apparent that he didn't always stick to a binomial style. "The introduction of this system of naming species is credited to Linnaeus" in the lead should certainly be balanced by a reference to earlier use of the idea by Harder and the Bauhins and others, lest a reader get the notion that Linnaeus got the idea straight from heaven rather than the tweaking of an idea that goes back much further in time! Go well ] (]) 13:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
| I sure do understand wanting to get the word out more about this great guy. His work is amazing, and I'm really enjoying the info you are adding at the other two articles, but the trouble here is that Misplaced Pages is about what the sources say, not about what may be true. Even if there were sources, we would still have to be careful not to give him credit for more than should apply. For instance, he did not publish a description of how to use a system of binomial nomenclature, nor is he even using a system of binomial nomenclature in his herbarium vivum, just a mix of different-sized names (although many are inividually binomials). We don't have any evidence that Linnaeus was influenced by him (we do have evidence that L. was influence by the Bauhins), nor that anyone was. | |||
| Dear Chris, I suppose one could use words like 'misrepresent', 'prevaricate', 'dissemble' and a dozen other euphemisms. However there is really no more polite or straightforward way of saying it. You provoke reaction by your unbelievably autocratic tactics, and your failure to apologise to your fellow editors for these actions, inclines one to believe that power has gone to your head. Then when your fellow editors respond in outrage, you shelter behind quotes from the Misplaced Pages policy. As I have pointed out to you, your actions might fall within the strict letter of Misplaced Pages rules, but the spirit you display is deplorable and will only serve to alienate other editors. ] 18:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Using a mixed system including binomials was not new or unique at his time, certainly less notable than the Bauhins who themselves only merit a minor mention in the History section. | |||
| So I'm sorry I'll have to drastically reduce your addition to just a part of a sentence in the History section, and remove the image. They're just not that relevant to the article, I hope you understand. Best regards. --] (]) 08:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)<br /> | |||
| Paul I removed the unsourced material per ] & ]. In the History section, the article currently says "The Bauhins... took some important steps towards the binomial system", and I would really like add info here about Hieronymus Harder, but I can't without a reliable source, so please let me know if you find anything. --] (]) 09:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :I just wanted to say that there has been a ]. Since you have been a contributor to the article, I encourage you to add to the debate and to contribute to the article, in the future. ] 05:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I've been extremely careful about my additions and did not make any unwarranted assumptions about Harder's contribution to binomial nomenclature - I simply posted the image which clearly shows that Harder made use of the binomial idea. His early use of binomialism is extremely relevant to the article, so that I am reverting the edit and hope that a wider group of editors may become involved in the discussion before deciding that Harder is really irrelevant. cheers ] (]) 09:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
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| Paul, I saw the list of passengers you added to the Comair article. I suggest that a separate page be added to Misplaced Pages to list the passengers and crew of Comair 5191. Other aircraft crash articles on Misplaced Pages do not include the entire passenger list. I have no intention of editing the article to change or remove the list, but if this were a separate article with a link to it from Comair 5191 then the same thing is accomplished. ] 12:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| Paul, one other thing, I noticed someone has used your User page to write something that ought to be on your talk page. You may want to edit it. Normally your user page should only be editted by you. ] 12:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ''''Cephalotaxus harringtonii'' redirects to ''Cephalotaxus harringtonia'' which is an incorrect name - see http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2709751 The correct name is ''Cephalotaxus harringtonii'' ] (]) 15:50, 4 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Dear Paul venter, you created the article Spirostachys africana in the english version from wikipedia. I worte the german article and i´m searching for a picture with a overall view of ''Spirostachys africana'' for my article. You upload the earliest Pictures in Commons. Do you maybe have a overall view-picture? Greetings, --] (]) 07:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Yes - but it involves some searching through slides - so be patient ] (]) 04:43, 27 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you for your work! I hope you´ll find a picture... --] (]) 19:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :Good morning! I saw your (maybe new) pictures in the en-Wiki. I put it to Commons, so that i can use it too. Do you´ve found any overall-view-picture from ''Spirostachys africana''? Greetings, --] (]) 08:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| ::I found a in the Internet an i think it´s yours. Maybe you can upload this with a CC-license? Greetings, --] (]) 10:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| :::No, not mine. Still on holiday for 2 weeks - till then ] (]) 14:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| Hello Paul, I hope you don't mind, but because this new article had not been edited in the last 4 hours, I changed the template at the top. I also slapped in a bunch of headings, but please feel free to change them any way you want to. Best wishes, ] (]) 22:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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| == Photos and provenance == | |||
| Paul, I've been looking at the photos you've uploaded, and several years ago, you uploaded multiple photos as "GFDL - own work" which clearly are not (for instance, ]). Could you go through these and add proper Nonfree - Fair Use notices instead? Thanks. ] (]) 22:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
| *Reminder! You said you'd get to this after the Christmas break? ] (]) 14:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the reminder! Fixed. You wrote 'multiple photos as own work' - could you list a few?.... the Sydney Skaife image came from the South African Museum, Cape Town after I'd requested a photo in the public domain to use on WP - I never tagged it as my own work!! cheers ] (]) 15:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == Tentamen == | |||
| Hallo, in you over-wrote a long-standing and helpful redirect (from alternate spelling of "Tentamun") and replaced it with an unsourced dictionary definition. I've reverted. If you have sourced information for something beyond a dictionary definition, then create an article but make a hatnote to replace the current redirect (or make a dab page to offer the two meanings), rather than losing that navigational assistance. Thanks. ]] 00:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Thank you for your note on my talk page refreshing my memory about edit-warring. I notice that you did not warn the other party PamD - was that deliberate or inadvertent? cheers ] (]) 21:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : That was deliberate. Your initial bold edit was proper; PamD's initial revert was proper; undoing the reversion without discussion was improper, and required a response. ] ] 23:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::PamD's initial revert may have been proper, but it was followed by 2 more reverts on the 24th - were they also proper and not falling within the meaning of edit warring? I think if one uses a system one should try to be even-handed.....] (]) 15:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I do not think that even-handedness requires ignoring clearly differing degrees of impropriety. ] ] 15:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Really? This is from your post on my page | |||
| *Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts. | |||
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| I do not see your "clearly differing degrees of impropriety" but rather a clear case of prejudice. ] (]) 16:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : I have explained above that your first move was proper, that PamD's first revert was proper, and that your following move was improper. You appear to have accepted that this was a correct judgment, so no further examination of the question is required. Cheers! ] ] 16:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::I don't know what gives you the impression that I have accepted your action as the "correct judgement"!!?? You obviously are not giving my notes close attention. I ask again "Why do you regard PamD's reverts after my 'improper' revert as being acceptable? ] (]) 19:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Let me ask you plainly, then. Do you agree that it was wrong for you to revert ]? ] ] 19:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::No! I do not think it was wrong. Her note read "revert to long-established redirect, instead of unsourced dicdef" As I pointed out to her a 'long-established redirect' was of itself not a compelling reason for her to revert. As regards 'unsourced dicdef', I with my next edit. ] (]) 06:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: You then created a page tagged as a disambiguation page, but which violates numerous aspects of ], including the express prohibition on external links appearing on disambiguation pages, and failing to actually disambiguate between ambiguously titled entries in the encyclopedia. Your actions in this regard were ultimately reverted by another administrator. Please do not create disambiguation pages unless and until there are multiple articles in Misplaced Pages that share an ambiguous title, or at least mention the topics by the name or term proposed to be ambiguous. ] ] 13:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Your gratuitous lecture is noted, but you have consistently failed to explain your bias in issuing edit-warring tags. ] (]) 15:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| : I thought I had explained things, but to be clear, yours was the first improper act, and the impropriety of your conduct grew worse with each successive edit. No other editor in this dispute was seeking to impose a page containing materials prohibited by ] (which I encourage you to review if you intend to continue editing disambiguation pages), which any editor could and should therefore have immediately removed from the page. ] ] 15:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::{{ec}}I don't remember why I'm a talk page stalker of BD2412...but I am. Get over it Paul. You made a bad edit and then edit warred over it. Did someone else edit war? Yes....but they were right. Get over it. I make mistakes here, and I am happy when people correct me. I want the wiki to be accurate. --] (]) 15:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| The edit-warring tag is intended for editors who are edit-warring - it doesn't ask who was right and who was wrong. Read this post with more care so that you can understand my concern, instead of rushing off half-cocked. ] (]) 09:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Hmm, interesting: I've just seen all the above for the first time, as Paul's talkpage is on my watchlist. I'd actually disagree with your (BD2412)'s statement above that " initial bold edit was proper": he over-wrote an existing redirect without supplying any replacement (such as a hatnote) for the reader looking for the Egyptian name. That was improper, and the reason that having initially PRODded the unsourced dicdef I instead reverted to the pre-existing redirect. ]] 12:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *: Proper in the sense that it wasn't straight-up vandalism. It could, in theory, have been a first step towards building a sourced and cited article on the topic. It turns out that it wasn't, but the edit by itself was merely poor editorial judgment, as opposed to something sinister. In any case, I do not think that there is any value to be gained by continuing this discussion. If anyone has anything further to say, please take it to ]. Cheers! ] ] 13:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *::Edit-warring is edit-warring, and if you're going to slap edit-warring tags on editors, then do so on ALL the parties involved - don't try to prejudge the situation by deciding who was right or wrong, or what was proper and improper - in this case your judgement was poor. ] (]) 08:16, 3 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Provenance == | |||
| Hm, could've sworn that there were more with incomplete or obviously bad metadata. That said, I'll accept that you might have been present to photograph Rosa Hope in the 60s/early 70s, or Judith Mason in 1980. But some of the pictures of Cuan and Phyllis McCarthy seem to be from the ''20s/30s.'' ] (]) 15:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Phyllis McCarthy was my mother-in-law while Cuan was her son - Phyllis was a painting companion of Rosa Hope and took the photo of her painting in the Drakensberg. The article on Phyllis states quite clearly "She established the Glenaholm Kennels in 1949" which was when she started breeding Ridgebacks, while Cuan was only born in 1929 - I have no idea which photos you presume to date from the "20s/30s". ] (]) 15:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Okay, I'll accept that these are family photos. (Also, I got the names and timeline bungled - Phyllis and Victor are one generation, Cuan and Gillian are a different generation! Good thing I got ''that'' sorted out before I renamed any files!) However, you weren't quite paying attention to what "own work" meant, back in '07 when you uploaded these. "Own work" specifically means that you were the one holding the camera — which you weren't. For the photos where you have no idea who the photographer was, you can get away with "family photo -- as a representative of the McCarthy estate by virtue of having married into it, I release the rights to this photo under <license>"; for the ones where you ''do'' know who the photographer was (e.g., the picture of Rosa, painting... the photo is by ], and so she owned the copyright, which will not expire until either 50 years after she took the photo (1970ish?, so 2020ish) or 50 years after her death (1986, so 2036). But, as a representative of the McCarthy estate etc etc etc. So if you could fix those details for the McCarthy family pictures, that'd be really helpful. Thanks. ] (]) 16:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :''However, you weren't quite paying attention to what "own work" meant, back in '07 when you uploaded these. "Own work" specifically means that you were the one holding the camera — which you weren't.'' - Which images specifically are you referring to when you say I tagged them as "own work"? ] (]) 19:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :: ], ], ], ], ], and ]. ] (]) 20:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *] "Own image of Cuan McCarthy during his Cambridge University years" - This image, taken c1952 by Cuan's friend and under South African PD, was given to me by Cuan McCarthy who also owned the copyright. | |||
| *] "Own photo showing McCarthy Twins with Rhodesian Ridgeback champion Glenaholm Dido and Glenaholm Cleopatra (1950)" - This image, taken c1950 by Phyllis McCarthy, was given to me by her; she also owned the copyright. | |||
| *] "Own image of Rosa Hope painting in Natal Drakensberg, South Africa" - Taken in 1950s and discussed previously. | |||
| etc. These photos, with their copyright, were left to me by Phyllis and Cuan McCarthy and it is in that sense that they were owned by me and labelled "own image" or "own photo" - in none of the descriptions did I claim to be the author or label them as "own work". ] (]) 06:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Hey, Paul, DS asked me to take a look at this. After looking at it, I think you're right; I would interpret "own image" as saying that you hold the copyright, not that it's necessarily your work. However, it might be easiest, if you're willing, to add a brief explanatory note to the ones that aren't your own work, saying that you inherited the copyright. It's up to you, though; I think you're all right regardless. Thanks, ] ]] 03:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi Writ Keeper, thanks for the suggestion - have re-labelled the photos accordingly. cheers ] (]) 09:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == Rising Star Cave == | |||
| Dear Paul, | |||
| I see you started the Rising Star Cave page and thank you for that. There are however a number of errors as well as speculation that is not factual nor supported and much of which is wrong (as you will see from my profile, I am in some position to weigh in on this matter. I have tried to change some of the inaccuracies and the keep re-occurring perhaps because you are an editor? I don't know, but I would appreciate assistance in getting the factual content correct. | |||
| For example: | |||
| "who, as part of an organised search commissioned of geologist Pedro Boshoff" in fact Pedro works for me (and was under my employ) and I commissioned the exploration with him as lead caver. | |||
| "for the exploration" should read "for the expedition" - we already had funds for the exploration from national geographic, the expedition was funded separately | |||
| "which commenced on 10 November" the expedition began on 7 November | |||
| Paul, thank you for your comments on my personal page. Please address the issues that you do not have issue with for which you are responsible. Rather than go into a tit for tat discussion, I believe we should call for a more senior editor to deal with our issues. Do you agree? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| this entire sentence "The large number of individuals found in a tiny underground chamber, though, invites speculation on the cause. The difficulty of access as well as apparent early age of the site would seem to rule out formal burial; the only possibilities remaining are transport by water from another location, or an attempted escape from a catastrophic surface event. Interestingly, the Tswaing crater, some 200,000 years old, lies only 70km distant." is entirely speculative, unsupported and in fact most probably wrong The first sentence is ok, because it does invite speculation of course, but to speculate in the absence of evidence does not support the encyclopedic nature of the wiki. | |||
| "The cave system has been previously visited by recreational cavers, though not the fossil chamber. " we have not said the latter part of this sentence and it is unsupported. | |||
| " Lee Berger noted on Facebook that he assembled a skeleton from UW-102 materials." I perhaps think your using a facebook posting to leap to assembling what is implied as a whole skeleton is perhaps a bit much don't you think? | |||
| I would very much appreciate your assistance in correcting these factual errors as soon as possible. I have tried and they keep bouncing back so your assistance as an editor and creator would be greatly appreciated. | |||
| ] (]) 12:21, 3 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Copied from Lee Berger's talk page: <br> | |||
| Dear Lee, Thank you for your notes on the cave. The first thing I should bring to your attention is that I am an editor of the article, but not the only editor. Misplaced Pages frowns on ownership of articles. | |||
| *The inclusion of Pedro Boshoff was done by an editor called Paleo Bonegirl. | |||
| *'''''"Lee Berger noted on Facebook that he assembled a skeleton from UW-102 materials." I perhaps think your using a facebook posting to leap to assembling what is implied as a whole skeleton is perhaps a bit much don't you think?''''' I do indeed think it's a bit much, but if you examine the history of the page you will find that it was editor 68.97.5.247 who added the piece - perhaps it might be a good idea to address him/her with your concern. Did you, in fact, post such a statement on Facebook? | |||
| *'''"The large number of individuals found in a tiny underground chamber, though, invites speculation on the cause. The difficulty of access as well as apparent early age of the site would seem to rule out formal burial; the only possibilities remaining are transport by water from another location, or an attempted escape from a catastrophic surface event. Interestingly, the Tswaing crater, some 200,000 years old, lies only 70km distant."''' The process by which the remains ended up in the chamber is indeed speculative. The sentence on the Tswaing crater has, as is noted, been added for interest - it is up to the reader to make a connection if he so desires. | |||
| *The lack of information forthcoming, though, is not speculative, but very real, and if you would like to add any data to the article, it would be most appreciated. ] (]) 13:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
| In response to the new note you posted on my page, I should point out that after your first note I amended the issues which you raised and which I did not consider problematic. ] (]) 17:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :Not a problem....] (]) 09:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :Try telling me things in your own words instead of just copypasting paragraphs from the MoS - stuff I already know. The degree of similarity between my source and my contribution to the article, calls for some degree of judgement, a quality in which you have shown yourself to be lacking. Your propensity for issuing threats, on the other hand, has not diminished with the passing of years.] (]) 13:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Paul, the message above is generated by {{tl|uw-paraphrase}} and is not a threat. The following is an analysis of your contribution on (parts in bold are exact): | |||
| :::Original : And some predators have evolved structures that are specifically designed '''to deal with the''' more '''common dextral snails - they have essentially become right-handed.''' ... Here, '''one of the claws is enlarged and''' operates '''with a scissor-like''' action '''that '''facilitates''' peeling open the snail.''' | |||
| :::Your text: ''Calappa'' species have evolved claws shaped '''to deal with common dextral snails - they have essentially become right-handed. One of the claws is enlarged and''' functions '''with a scissor-like''' motion '''that''' allows a '''peeling open''' of '''the snail.''' | |||
| ::It's quite clear that, whether knowingly or not, you have simply replaced a few words, dropped one, and added some others -- the word more was dropped, operates became functions, action became motion, facilitates became "allows a", and you added the word of. It's not significantly different. I am sympathetic to the fact that proper paraphrasing might be difficult when vocabulary is limited (there is only one way to describe the morphology of a leaf blade), but the structure of the sentences here and the imagery used is copied from the source instead of using the source to support text written in your own words that conveys the same meaning. Cheers, ] <sup><small>(])</small></sup> 13:33, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Ryan, then show me how you would rephrase the text you criticise (as I invited you to do after your initial revert) - being sympathetic to the problem of finding new words and phrases is not enough - lead by example and rewrite the offending text. The effort you have already expended on chastising me must be considerably less than correcting my transgression. ] (]) 15:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Paul, I'm not the one interested in including this information in that article. I saw a case of close paraphrasing and reverted. As I noted in my edit summary, the burden is on you to write in your own words if you think the article needs that information. The effort expended informing you that close paraphrasing is unnecessary and infringes on the copyright of other authors is just as valuable as writing article content. Hopefully you now know that close paraphrasing isn't permitted under most circumstances. This will prevent future problems. ] <sup><small>(])</small></sup> 15:57, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Ryan, your response is absolutely in line with what I expected......] (]) 16:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ==Atlantic puffin== | |||
| In 2013 I greatly expanded the article ] and brought it successfully to FAC. So I have an ongoing desire to see the article remain of high quality. The information you added seems inherently unlikely to me. Ravens are not usually considered as kleptoparasites in the way suggested and whether puffins have learned to behave in the way mentioned seems unlikely. Unless you can find a reliable source for the information I think it should be removed. I have raised this matter on the , so please respond there. Another point, during the FAC process, careful attention is paid to the formatting of references. You have left a bare url in the article as a result of your addition. When editing articles, and especially FAs and GAs, it is best to adopt the format of citations already present in the article. ] (]) 10:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :You are the person who wants to add the information so it is your responsibility to provide a reliable source. I tried ''"Corvus corax'' kleptoparasite ''Fratercula arctica''" in Google Scholar and found nothing useful. You could look at but the abstract does not mention fish being included in the raven's diet, and you would still need a source for the puffin behaviour. Do ravens steal puffins' catches? I couldn't find anything about that elsewhere. Some gulls and skuas do however so perhaps you misremembered what species of bird was involved. Or was it a throwaway remark "It almost seems as if the puffins have learned to ..."? I need convincing. ] (]) 18:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Are you unable to give the episode number and the timing within the episode? ] (]) 19:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::I don't want this to look like an edit war between the two of you, so I'll add my comments. | |||
| :::*Although audiovisual material can be used as a reference, you need to give episode and timing, particularly in a featured article. Otherwise it's like give a multi-volume book as a ref without volume or page number | |||
| :::*without pin-pointing the source, we don't know who has said this and with what authority. It could be an opinion from a non-expert, a mistake, or even a reflection of genuine research | |||
| :::*the latter seems unlikely. Two of us at least have failed to find any published source for the claims you have made. A vague reference which can't be examined or verified is not acceptable, particulalry in an FA ] - ] 05:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == Tree == | |||
| Hello Paul venter. As per ], I have reverted the ] article back to the version that does not mention "underground trees". This is so the subject can be discussed on the talk page and a consensus can be reached. Please note that my reversion of your edit is not a statement about my personal opinion on the matter. Please also note that if you undertake any further reversions, you will be contravening ]. Thanks. ] (]) 20:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Paul, please do not keep reverting back to your preferred version while the matter is under dispute - it doesn't solve anything. In order to stop the edit war, consensus must first be gained, and as per ], this should be done with the article in its original version. Thanks. ] (]) 08:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::PaleCloudedWhite, instead of telling me not to revert would you kindly be specific about YOUR reasons for removing an adequately sourced contribution? ] (]) 10:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Order of Little Bedlam == | |||
| Dear Paul, Thanks for creating the article on the ]. It's good to see the information here. There was a problem with the caption on the image you uploaded a year ago, of Thomas Barker. The portrait is in fact of Sir Thomas Barker 1648-1707 - who was, correctly, a member of the Club - but your caption (and the image File title in Wikimedia Commons) is for ] (1722-1809) - whom it is evidently not. So I have put the correct caption on the image in the article. | |||
| But (forgive me if I am wrong) I feel sure this photographic image has been taken from the 2010 issue of the magazine in which it appeared as an illustration (Bryan Waites, 'Sir Thomas Barker and the Order of Little Bedlam', ''Rutland Local History and Record Society Newsletter'' No. 1 Pt 10 (April 2010), pp 5-6. ), or else from an associated website - because it is cropped in the same way. I therefore wonder if the licence can really be free, as you put in the commons file? Sorry to ask but better safe than sorry! I have posted a query on the relevant talk pages. Thanks and sorry to trouble you about this. ] (]) 12:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Fixing up the new ghost shrimp article== | |||
| Hello Paul. I saw your new article on '']''. I fixed it up a bit to make it easier for a reader to find the info they want. I might also suggest that you start a very simple genus article on '']'' which is not hard to do by copying and cutting down the species article and adding a species list. That way you could link to the species article from the genus one. You can use WoRMS as a source. WoRMS even gives you the citation to use at the bottom of each taxon page: | |||
| http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=367974 | |||
| If you create a genus page, no matter how simple, your species article would no longer be an orphan. Best wishes, ] (]) 11:45, 6 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == Origin of the name San Diego == | |||
| Hello! Yes, I know that you believe San Diego is named for Santiago or Saint James. But it isn't. I just added an "etymology" section to the article, with a scholarly reference that clearly shows the area was named San Diego after Saint Didacus of Alcala (better known as San Diego). The still-exiting mission in San Diego is also called ] (not Santiago de Compostello or any other variant of Santiago). Thanks for caring about San Diego, but we have to go with what the references say - not what some people believe. --] (]) 18:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :P.S. Even if "Didacus" is a Latinized form of "Diego", which it probably is, the "Diego" or James that the city was named for was not James the Apostle, the patron saint of Spain. San Diego de Alcala was a 15th-century monk. --] (]) 18:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hi - that is not a compelling argument. Your scholarly reference has many 'scholarly' sources disagree with him - for one see http://www.behindthename.com/name/diego. Perhaps you might also read ] and ]. Failing to mention 'Santiago' in the etymology section and linking 'San Diego' directly with 'Saint Didacus' is blatantly ignoring dissident views and is a philological travesty. ] (]) 19:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :::This discussion has been copied to the article's ] and continues there. --] (]) 21:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC) | |||
| == ''Sefapanosaurus'' == | |||
| Hallo Paul venter! I noticed you created the article '']''. In the describing scientific article, the authors mention that A.W. Keyser found the fossils between 1936 and 1948. This obviously cannot be the famous palaeontologist ]. As you created the latter's article also, I wondered whether you knew who this other man (?) is. An elder relative maybe? | |||
| Greetings, --] (]) 18:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
| Hi MWAK - Yes, I noticed that.......I've been offline for the last 4 days, but will ask Bruce Rubidge about that tomorrow. I should think it was just a careless blunder, but a bad one since it implies that HE misidentified the fossils. | |||
| cheers | |||
| :Thank you! In any case, it would be interesting to determine the exact identity of the discoverer.--] (]) 15:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've talked to Bruce Rubidge and he agrees it's a blunder, but one of the co-authors Jonah is still unavailable..... | |||
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- Not my edit!! Paul venter (talk) 10:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Paul! I've been following your edits at Binomial nomenclature. I'm hoping you are adding inline sources to support your individual points, so they can stay in the article. I was waiting until you finish your Hieronymus Harder article to make any changes (soon?), but in the Binomial article the Hieronymus info belongs in the history section (if it is sourced) instead of the lead. I'm very curious what your sources say about 1) whether he always used a binomial or only partially, and 2) how much, if any, he talked about a system of binomial nomenclature as proposed for use by everyone. Thanks for the info! --Tom Hulse (talk) 10:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Tom, No, I don't have any sources in which Harder made notes specifically about Binomial nomenclature, but only index pages from his Herbarium vivum which clearly display his use of the idea. From the image I posted at Binomial nomenclature it should be apparent that he didn't always stick to a binomial style. "The introduction of this system of naming species is credited to Linnaeus" in the lead should certainly be balanced by a reference to earlier use of the idea by Harder and the Bauhins and others, lest a reader get the notion that Linnaeus got the idea straight from heaven rather than the tweaking of an idea that goes back much further in time! Go well Paul venter (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I sure do understand wanting to get the word out more about this great guy. His work is amazing, and I'm really enjoying the info you are adding at the other two articles, but the trouble here is that Misplaced Pages is about what the sources say, not about what may be true. Even if there were sources, we would still have to be careful not to give him credit for more than should apply. For instance, he did not publish a description of how to use a system of binomial nomenclature, nor is he even using a system of binomial nomenclature in his herbarium vivum, just a mix of different-sized names (although many are inividually binomials). We don't have any evidence that Linnaeus was influenced by him (we do have evidence that L. was influence by the Bauhins), nor that anyone was.
Using a mixed system including binomials was not new or unique at his time, certainly less notable than the Bauhins who themselves only merit a minor mention in the History section.
So I'm sorry I'll have to drastically reduce your addition to just a part of a sentence in the History section, and remove the image. They're just not that relevant to the article, I hope you understand. Best regards. --Tom Hulse (talk) 08:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Paul I removed the unsourced material per WP:NOR & WP:RS. In the History section, the article currently says "The Bauhins... took some important steps towards the binomial system", and I would really like add info here about Hieronymus Harder, but I can't without a reliable source, so please let me know if you find anything. --Tom Hulse (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- I've been extremely careful about my additions and did not make any unwarranted assumptions about Harder's contribution to binomial nomenclature - I simply posted the image which clearly shows that Harder made use of the binomial idea. His early use of binomialism is extremely relevant to the article, so that I am reverting the edit and hope that a wider group of editors may become involved in the discussion before deciding that Harder is really irrelevant. cheers Paul venter (talk) 09:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Discussion moved by Paul to Talk:Binomial nomenclature#Hieronymus Harder --Tom Hulse (talk) 10:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Paul. Thanks for your note regarding your article "Download sites". I took a look at it and as it was, I agree the deletion was appropriate. However, I can see that it could be useful to have a page listing relevant databases, sites, journals etc, so I have restored it and moved into your userspace here: User:Paul venter/Download sites. I don't recommend re-posting it into the article space as it will most likely be deleted again, but you can keep it in your userspace. You could also talk to the botany wikiproject about making it into a resources subpage of the wikiproject or possibly even writing a subject area database list, such as: List of biodiversity databases, List of neuroscience databases, List of online databases and List of academic databases and search engines. Unfortunately I don't know enough about botany or these websites to know if developing your page into such a list would be appropriate or not so I cannot advise you either way but it's just an idea that you might consider discussing with other editors more knowledgeable about this area and these databases. I noticed that someone has also started collection some links to botanical databases and catalogs here: Outline_of_botany#External_links. Also, in future, if you are starting a new article which you haven't finished and are still actively working on, you would be best to start the article in a sub-page of your userspace (for example, User:Paul venter/Drafts). We give people a lot of leeway with userspace drafts so you would generally be free to work on it in your own time and without having to worry about people interfering with it or nominating it for speedy deletion before you have even finished. Then once you have finished working on it, simply move the page to the main article space. Hope this helps. Cheers, Sarah 06:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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Why hello David! Most kind of you to notice and comment - your interest in matters forestry is quite unusual. Mine stems from having worked for 5 years for forestry when I was young. Regards Paul venter (talk) 22:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- You're most welcome, Paul. I teach at a forestry school and, while I'm not a forester, am interested in forest(ry) policy and history. I was impressed by South Africa's extensive Pinus radiata plantations when I visited several years ago (did not get to the Cape, though)... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
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- If I inadvertently left that fragment, why am I getting this entirely gratuitous sermon about stuff I already know? Paul venter (talk) 14:05, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Paul Venter, Before I saw your article on Helena Scott I created an entry on Helena and Harriet Scott. Now there are two similar articles which I think should be one article as they are always referred to together as the Scott sisters. This is why I entitled my version Helena and Harriet Scott. I therefore suggest we move the content you created along with the images and categories into the article with the jointly named title. Do you think this is a good solution? Elara7 (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Elara, My first reaction would be to leave both articles as is with a 'See also' note and/or piping in the lead paragraph. Some rabid editor is bound to object in order to do some grandstanding, but I can see no compelling reason to merge the articles. The other way to go may be to do a separate article on Harriet Scott, something which shouldn't be too difficult as the groundwork has already been done. Anyway, whatever we decide is bound to be set aside by a bunch of editors who would claim to know better and also claim to have consensus, so that in the end it doesn't matter. Cheers Paul venter (talk) 06:51, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Paul venter, Thanks for your suggestion. I will go ahead and do a separate article on Harriet, which as you said should be easier than merging the two articles. Thanks Elara7 (talk) 23:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Paul, I've initiated a peer review request for the List of historic schools of forestry article, and would appreciate your input on ways that it can be improved. Ultimately, I would like to nominate it for Featured List status. Please add any comments or suggestions at this link. Thank you & Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi David, Useful list indeed. After a cursory inspection (I'll return later) the only change I made was lifting the size restriction on the image of Heinrich von Cotta. Regards Paul venter (talk) 14:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, Paul. I look forward to learning of any further suggestions for improving the list that you might have. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the offer. The Androstachys account was blocked by Hesperian as a result of long-standing friction with him and Rkitko over interpretations of the MoS and consequent edit-warring. For the exact sequence of events one would have to inspect the history log of Androstachys. Also relevant was the removal by Hesperian to mainspace of about a dozen articles which had been developed by Rotational in his user space (for the history of one such article see here). Paul venter (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- This is also relevant. Paul venter (talk) 15:00, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for that information. On the face of it, it seems that the block log entry made by Hesperian is way out of line. However, I have asked Hesperian to comment, and am willing to wait a little while to see if he/she makes any response. Feel free to contact me about this if I don't get back on this within a couple of days, if you wish to. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:33, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Hesperian is still, it seems, of the opinion that you were community banned, but since nobody has produced a record of when or where this happened, I don't know whether it is true or not. However, it is evident that you created the article while evading at least one block, and whether the block was based on a ban or not is of little relevance, as the deletion reason "Creation by a banned or blocked user" is still valid. The undeletion of the article took place because the deletion was believed to have been made on the basis of a false impression, but it is now clear that that was not the case. On a different but related issue, your request for undeletion says "Previous nominations of other articles created by user Androstachys were dismissed since the articles were found to be useful, and that being banned or blocked did not automatically mean that work prior to the ban was without merit". However, the policy that pages created by editors evading blocks can be deleted does not depend on lack of "merit" of those pages. It is true that there are some administrators who choose to ignore this particular policy, because they personally disagree with it. My own belief, however, is that the job of an administrator is to administer policy, not to use one's administrative powers to further one's own personal view. No administrator is ever obliged to take action that he or she doesn't personally agree with, but undoing an existing action because of one's own view, even though that view is contrary to policy, is, in my opinion, unacceptable, and so requesting undeletion on such grounds is invalid. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
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- It seems that James is busy with some sort of crusade - I believe to the detriment of WP - and has also deleted Thomas Pearson Stokoe, Johannes Schumacher and Getaway (magazine). Deletions of this sort have come up before here and here. In my opinion the G5 policy is not so much punitive to the erring editor, but rather shoots WP in both feet. The G5 policy should be reviewed to align with WP's oft-stated goal of doing that which is in the best interest of the Encyclopaedia. Paul venter (talk) 19:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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repeated invocation of my name: "I first touched on it some while back when I pointed out to Sminthopsis84". It sounds as if you are criticizing me for not understanding everything that it is your mind, and, frankly, I find that unpleasant. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Peter coxhead wrote I'm baffled by your phrase "the plant". What plant? I and Sminthopsis84 have spent time trying to explain that "nettle" doesn't refer to one plant, so how can the primary meaning be "the plant"?. I found this surprising in view of the fact that I had commented to you at the very outset that the article was taking a very narrow view of 'nettle' if it didn't include all the other plants so named across the English-speaking world.. Please do not introduce inflammatory rhetoric where there was none before and also confine this sort of comment to the article's talk page. Paul venter (talk) 22:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't believe that this sort of thing belongs on the article talk page. Clearly, you and I are unable to communicate. What you've just said about "the plant" and a much earlier discussion when the page was about the genus Urtica still makes no sense to me, but I don't care to engage with someone who uses phrases like inflammatory rhetoric. However, please stop abusing me on the article talk page. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 23:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think the average person would regard my comments as abuse - or abstruse. Paul venter (talk) 23:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
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''Cephalotaxus harringtonii redirects to Cephalotaxus harringtonia which is an incorrect name - see http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2709751 The correct name is Cephalotaxus harringtonii Paul venter (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Done JamesBWatson (talk) 19:39, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you....Paul venter (talk) 20:20, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. Thank you for creating Charles de Worms. Could you please add references/citations for the page however? Please reply on my talkpage. I am working on his immediate ancestors btw. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- You added none. I add one a few hours ago. I wonder where you found all this info you added to create the page?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:40, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- No idea, but a quick search turns up http://books.google.co.za/books?id=cAUTW-ax-SgC&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=Charles+de+Worms&source=bl&ots=S0f--_zwVA&sig=NcNna5DDwZuHtEwutQoIH7ad9Yk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t1hSUs_xDLSb0AWPlIDwCA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ and http://books.google.co.za/books?id=cAUTW-ax-SgC&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=Charles+de+Worms&source=bl&ots=S0f--_zwVA&sig=NcNna5DDwZuHtEwutQoIH7ad9Yk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t1hSUs_xDLSb0AWPlIDwCA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Charles%20de%20Worms&f=false Paul venter (talk) 06:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Just to make sure we are on the same page. {{Under construction}} differs from {{in use}}. Since page stayed "in use" for 24 hours I thought something might have gone wrong. Happy editing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Quite right! It was the "In use" tag which was in place..... Paul venter (talk) 07:37, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- "In use" tag is used in case you want to open the editor and you need something like 1 hour to complete editing. If you need more please use your sandbox and place the "under construction" tag. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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Sorry - think I fixed it but I undid an edit of yours by mistake - had a bad minute of clicking on the wrong link. ◊ Antiqueight 12:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
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Dear Paul venter, you created the article Spirostachys africana in the english version from wikipedia. I worte the german article and i´m searching for a picture with a overall view of Spirostachys africana for my article. You upload the earliest Pictures in Commons. Do you maybe have a overall view-picture? Greetings, --M. Krafft (talk) 07:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
- Yes - but it involves some searching through slides - so be patient Paul venter (talk) 04:43, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work! I hope you´ll find a picture... --M. Krafft (talk) 19:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Good morning! I saw your (maybe new) pictures in the en-Wiki. I put it to Commons, so that i can use it too. Do you´ve found any overall-view-picture from Spirostachys africana? Greetings, --M. Krafft (talk) 08:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- I found a picture in the Internet an i think it´s yours. Maybe you can upload this with a CC-license? Greetings, --M. Krafft (talk) 10:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- No, not mine. Still on holiday for 2 weeks - till then Paul venter (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- I found a picture in the Internet an i think it´s yours. Maybe you can upload this with a CC-license? Greetings, --M. Krafft (talk) 10:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Paul, maybe you´ll find time for searching a photo. I searched in the whole Internet but can´t find a free-licensed picture, so you´re my only chance. In the next days i want to candidate for a good article-award and i think without a picture this will be very hard... Best wishes, --M. Krafft (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Paul, I've been looking at the photos you've uploaded, and several years ago, you uploaded multiple photos as "GFDL - own work" which clearly are not (for instance, File:Sydney Skaife.jpg). Could you go through these and add proper Nonfree - Fair Use notices instead? Thanks. DS (talk) 22:41, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Reminder! You said you'd get to this after the Christmas break? DS (talk) 14:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder! Fixed. You wrote 'multiple photos as own work' - could you list a few?.... the Sydney Skaife image came from the South African Museum, Cape Town after I'd requested a photo in the public domain to use on WP - I never tagged it as my own work!! cheers Paul venter (talk) 15:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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Please see WP:RS. There is no requirement for a reliable source to be available online; books are fine as sources. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:38, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it SHOULD be a requirement when challenged, lest enormous inaccuracies be perpetuated without the possibility of being reviewed. Paul venter (talk) 07:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hallo, in this edit you over-wrote a long-standing and helpful redirect (from alternate spelling of "Tentamun") and replaced it with an unsourced dictionary definition. I've reverted. If you have sourced information for something beyond a dictionary definition, then create an article but make a hatnote to replace the current redirect (or make a dab page to offer the two meanings), rather than losing that navigational assistance. Thanks. PamD 00:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for your note on my talk page refreshing my memory about edit-warring. I notice that you did not warn the other party PamD - was that deliberate or inadvertent? cheers Paul venter (talk) 21:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- That was deliberate. Your initial bold edit was proper; PamD's initial revert was proper; undoing the reversion without discussion was improper, and required a response. bd2412 T 23:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
- PamD's initial revert may have been proper, but it was followed by 2 more reverts on the 24th - were they also proper and not falling within the meaning of edit warring? I think if one uses a system one should try to be even-handed.....Paul venter (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- I do not think that even-handedness requires ignoring clearly differing degrees of impropriety. bd2412 T 15:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- PamD's initial revert may have been proper, but it was followed by 2 more reverts on the 24th - were they also proper and not falling within the meaning of edit warring? I think if one uses a system one should try to be even-handed.....Paul venter (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Really? This is from your post on my page
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
I do not see your "clearly differing degrees of impropriety" but rather a clear case of prejudice. Paul venter (talk) 16:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have explained above that your first move was proper, that PamD's first revert was proper, and that your following move was improper. You appear to have accepted that this was a correct judgment, so no further examination of the question is required. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know what gives you the impression that I have accepted your action as the "correct judgement"!!?? You obviously are not giving my notes close attention. I ask again "Why do you regard PamD's reverts after my 'improper' revert as being acceptable? Paul venter (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Let me ask you plainly, then. Do you agree that it was wrong for you to revert PamD? bd2412 T 19:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- No! I do not think it was wrong. Her note read "revert to long-established redirect, instead of unsourced dicdef" As I pointed out to her a 'long-established redirect' was of itself not a compelling reason for her to revert. As regards 'unsourced dicdef', I provided sources with my next edit. Paul venter (talk) 06:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- You then created a page tagged as a disambiguation page, but which violates numerous aspects of MOS:DAB, including the express prohibition on external links appearing on disambiguation pages, and failing to actually disambiguate between ambiguously titled entries in the encyclopedia. Your actions in this regard were ultimately reverted by another administrator. Please do not create disambiguation pages unless and until there are multiple articles in Misplaced Pages that share an ambiguous title, or at least mention the topics by the name or term proposed to be ambiguous. bd2412 T 13:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- No! I do not think it was wrong. Her note read "revert to long-established redirect, instead of unsourced dicdef" As I pointed out to her a 'long-established redirect' was of itself not a compelling reason for her to revert. As regards 'unsourced dicdef', I provided sources with my next edit. Paul venter (talk) 06:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Let me ask you plainly, then. Do you agree that it was wrong for you to revert PamD? bd2412 T 19:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know what gives you the impression that I have accepted your action as the "correct judgement"!!?? You obviously are not giving my notes close attention. I ask again "Why do you regard PamD's reverts after my 'improper' revert as being acceptable? Paul venter (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
Your gratuitous lecture is noted, but you have consistently failed to explain your bias in issuing edit-warring tags. Paul venter (talk) 15:03, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- I thought I had explained things, but to be clear, yours was the first improper act, and the impropriety of your conduct grew worse with each successive edit. No other editor in this dispute was seeking to impose a page containing materials prohibited by MOS:DAB (which I encourage you to review if you intend to continue editing disambiguation pages), which any editor could and should therefore have immediately removed from the page. bd2412 T 15:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I don't remember why I'm a talk page stalker of BD2412...but I am. Get over it Paul. You made a bad edit and then edit warred over it. Did someone else edit war? Yes....but they were right. Get over it. I make mistakes here, and I am happy when people correct me. I want the wiki to be accurate. --Onorem (talk) 15:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
The edit-warring tag is intended for editors who are edit-warring - it doesn't ask who was right and who was wrong. Read this post with more care so that you can understand my concern, instead of rushing off half-cocked. Paul venter (talk) 09:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm, interesting: I've just seen all the above for the first time, as Paul's talkpage is on my watchlist. I'd actually disagree with your (BD2412)'s statement above that " initial bold edit was proper": he over-wrote an existing redirect without supplying any replacement (such as a hatnote) for the reader looking for the Egyptian name. That was improper, and the reason that having initially PRODded the unsourced dicdef I instead reverted to the pre-existing redirect. PamD 12:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Proper in the sense that it wasn't straight-up vandalism. It could, in theory, have been a first step towards building a sourced and cited article on the topic. It turns out that it wasn't, but the edit by itself was merely poor editorial judgment, as opposed to something sinister. In any case, I do not think that there is any value to be gained by continuing this discussion. If anyone has anything further to say, please take it to WP:ANI. Cheers! bd2412 T 13:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Edit-warring is edit-warring, and if you're going to slap edit-warring tags on editors, then do so on ALL the parties involved - don't try to prejudge the situation by deciding who was right or wrong, or what was proper and improper - in this case your judgement was poor. Paul venter (talk) 08:16, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Proper in the sense that it wasn't straight-up vandalism. It could, in theory, have been a first step towards building a sourced and cited article on the topic. It turns out that it wasn't, but the edit by itself was merely poor editorial judgment, as opposed to something sinister. In any case, I do not think that there is any value to be gained by continuing this discussion. If anyone has anything further to say, please take it to WP:ANI. Cheers! bd2412 T 13:50, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Provenance
Hm, could've sworn that there were more with incomplete or obviously bad metadata. That said, I'll accept that you might have been present to photograph Rosa Hope in the 60s/early 70s, or Judith Mason in 1980. But some of the pictures of Cuan and Phyllis McCarthy seem to be from the 20s/30s. DS (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Phyllis McCarthy was my mother-in-law while Cuan was her son - Phyllis was a painting companion of Rosa Hope and took the photo of her painting in the Drakensberg. The article on Phyllis states quite clearly "She established the Glenaholm Kennels in 1949" which was when she started breeding Ridgebacks, while Cuan was only born in 1929 - I have no idea which photos you presume to date from the "20s/30s". Paul venter (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll accept that these are family photos. (Also, I got the names and timeline bungled - Phyllis and Victor are one generation, Cuan and Gillian are a different generation! Good thing I got that sorted out before I renamed any files!) However, you weren't quite paying attention to what "own work" meant, back in '07 when you uploaded these. "Own work" specifically means that you were the one holding the camera — which you weren't. For the photos where you have no idea who the photographer was, you can get away with "family photo -- as a representative of the McCarthy estate by virtue of having married into it, I release the rights to this photo under <license>"; for the ones where you do know who the photographer was (e.g., the picture of Rosa, painting... the photo is by Phyllis McCarthy, and so she owned the copyright, which will not expire until either 50 years after she took the photo (1970ish?, so 2020ish) or 50 years after her death (1986, so 2036). But, as a representative of the McCarthy estate etc etc etc. So if you could fix those details for the McCarthy family pictures, that'd be really helpful. Thanks. DS (talk) 16:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- However, you weren't quite paying attention to what "own work" meant, back in '07 when you uploaded these. "Own work" specifically means that you were the one holding the camera — which you weren't. - Which images specifically are you referring to when you say I tagged them as "own work"? Paul venter (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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- File:Cuan McCarthy02.jpg "Own image of Cuan McCarthy during his Cambridge University years" - This image, taken c1952 by Cuan's friend and under South African PD, was given to me by Cuan McCarthy who also owned the copyright.
- File:Phyllis McCarthy05.jpg "Own photo showing McCarthy Twins with Rhodesian Ridgeback champion Glenaholm Dido and Glenaholm Cleopatra (1950)" - This image, taken c1950 by Phyllis McCarthy, was given to me by her; she also owned the copyright.
- File:Rosa Hope00.JPG "Own image of Rosa Hope painting in Natal Drakensberg, South Africa" - Taken in 1950s and discussed previously.
etc. These photos, with their copyright, were left to me by Phyllis and Cuan McCarthy and it is in that sense that they were owned by me and labelled "own image" or "own photo" - in none of the descriptions did I claim to be the author or label them as "own work". Paul venter (talk) 06:36, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, Paul, DS asked me to take a look at this. After looking at it, I think you're right; I would interpret "own image" as saying that you hold the copyright, not that it's necessarily your work. However, it might be easiest, if you're willing, to add a brief explanatory note to the ones that aren't your own work, saying that you inherited the copyright. It's up to you, though; I think you're all right regardless. Thanks, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 03:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Writ Keeper, thanks for the suggestion - have re-labelled the photos accordingly. cheers Paul venter (talk) 09:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, I wonder if you might know whether or not there was any connection between this William Felton and a Colonel Arthur Felton Mulliner, coach builder and part of a coach making etc dynasty see Arthur Mulliner. I've accumulated quite a bit of bumpf about the Mulliner family and they had a habit of marrying into other coachbuilding families - I suppose because of the practice of sending each other's sons for apprenticeship to someone of at least equal standing. Anyway do you know much of William Felton's family? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 21:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, Sorry, no I don't. I would suggest you start with a Google search including the 2 terms "William Felton" and "Colonel Arthur Felton Mulliner". Cheers Paul venter (talk) 06:46, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Paul,
I see you started the Rising Star Cave page and thank you for that. There are however a number of errors as well as speculation that is not factual nor supported and much of which is wrong (as you will see from my profile, I am in some position to weigh in on this matter. I have tried to change some of the inaccuracies and the keep re-occurring perhaps because you are an editor? I don't know, but I would appreciate assistance in getting the factual content correct.
For example:
"who, as part of an organised search commissioned of geologist Pedro Boshoff" in fact Pedro works for me (and was under my employ) and I commissioned the exploration with him as lead caver.
"for the exploration" should read "for the expedition" - we already had funds for the exploration from national geographic, the expedition was funded separately
"which commenced on 10 November" the expedition began on 7 November
Paul, thank you for your comments on my personal page. Please address the issues that you do not have issue with for which you are responsible. Rather than go into a tit for tat discussion, I believe we should call for a more senior editor to deal with our issues. Do you agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profberger (talk • contribs) 17:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
this entire sentence "The large number of individuals found in a tiny underground chamber, though, invites speculation on the cause. The difficulty of access as well as apparent early age of the site would seem to rule out formal burial; the only possibilities remaining are transport by water from another location, or an attempted escape from a catastrophic surface event. Interestingly, the Tswaing crater, some 200,000 years old, lies only 70km distant." is entirely speculative, unsupported and in fact most probably wrong The first sentence is ok, because it does invite speculation of course, but to speculate in the absence of evidence does not support the encyclopedic nature of the wiki.
"The cave system has been previously visited by recreational cavers, though not the fossil chamber. " we have not said the latter part of this sentence and it is unsupported.
" Lee Berger noted on Facebook that he assembled a skeleton from UW-102 materials." I perhaps think your using a facebook posting to leap to assembling what is implied as a whole skeleton is perhaps a bit much don't you think?
I would very much appreciate your assistance in correcting these factual errors as soon as possible. I have tried and they keep bouncing back so your assistance as an editor and creator would be greatly appreciated.
Profberger (talk) 12:21, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Lee, Thank you for your notes on the cave. The first thing I should bring to your attention is that I am an editor of the article, but not the only editor. Misplaced Pages frowns on ownership of articles.
- The inclusion of Pedro Boshoff was done by an editor called Paleo Bonegirl.
- "Lee Berger noted on Facebook that he assembled a skeleton from UW-102 materials." I perhaps think your using a facebook posting to leap to assembling what is implied as a whole skeleton is perhaps a bit much don't you think? I do indeed think it's a bit much, but if you examine the history of the page you will find that it was editor 68.97.5.247 who added the piece - perhaps it might be a good idea to address him/her with your concern. Did you, in fact, post such a statement on Facebook?
- "The large number of individuals found in a tiny underground chamber, though, invites speculation on the cause. The difficulty of access as well as apparent early age of the site would seem to rule out formal burial; the only possibilities remaining are transport by water from another location, or an attempted escape from a catastrophic surface event. Interestingly, the Tswaing crater, some 200,000 years old, lies only 70km distant." The process by which the remains ended up in the chamber is indeed speculative. The sentence on the Tswaing crater has, as is noted, been added for interest - it is up to the reader to make a connection if he so desires.
- The lack of information forthcoming, though, is not speculative, but very real, and if you would like to add any data to the article, it would be most appreciated. Paul venter (talk) 13:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
In response to the new note you posted on my page, I should point out that after your first note I amended the issues which you raised and which I did not consider problematic. Paul venter (talk) 17:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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Whoops, editing quickly I missed your "in use" notice. Apologies! Peter coxhead (talk) 09:09, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not a problem....Paul venter (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Try telling me things in your own words instead of just copypasting paragraphs from the MoS - stuff I already know. The degree of similarity between my source and my contribution to the article, calls for some degree of judgement, a quality in which you have shown yourself to be lacking. Your propensity for issuing threats, on the other hand, has not diminished with the passing of years.Paul venter (talk) 13:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Paul, the message above is generated by {{uw-paraphrase}} and is not a threat. The following is an analysis of your contribution on this edit (parts in bold are exact):
- Original source: And some predators have evolved structures that are specifically designed to deal with the more common dextral snails - they have essentially become right-handed. ... Here, one of the claws is enlarged and operates with a scissor-like action that facilitates peeling open the snail.
- Your text: Calappa species have evolved claws shaped to deal with common dextral snails - they have essentially become right-handed. One of the claws is enlarged and functions with a scissor-like motion that allows a peeling open of the snail.
- It's quite clear that, whether knowingly or not, you have simply replaced a few words, dropped one, and added some others -- the word more was dropped, operates became functions, action became motion, facilitates became "allows a", and you added the word of. It's not significantly different. I am sympathetic to the fact that proper paraphrasing might be difficult when vocabulary is limited (there is only one way to describe the morphology of a leaf blade), but the structure of the sentences here and the imagery used is copied from the source instead of using the source to support text written in your own words that conveys the same meaning. Cheers, Rkitko 13:33, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ryan, then show me how you would rephrase the text you criticise (as I invited you to do after your initial revert) - being sympathetic to the problem of finding new words and phrases is not enough - lead by example and rewrite the offending text. The effort you have already expended on chastising me must be considerably less than correcting my transgression. Paul venter (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Paul, I'm not the one interested in including this information in that article. I saw a case of close paraphrasing and reverted. As I noted in my edit summary, the burden is on you to write in your own words if you think the article needs that information. The effort expended informing you that close paraphrasing is unnecessary and infringes on the copyright of other authors is just as valuable as writing article content. Hopefully you now know that close paraphrasing isn't permitted under most circumstances. This will prevent future problems. Rkitko 15:57, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ryan, then show me how you would rephrase the text you criticise (as I invited you to do after your initial revert) - being sympathetic to the problem of finding new words and phrases is not enough - lead by example and rewrite the offending text. The effort you have already expended on chastising me must be considerably less than correcting my transgression. Paul venter (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Paul, the message above is generated by {{uw-paraphrase}} and is not a threat. The following is an analysis of your contribution on this edit (parts in bold are exact):
Ryan, your response is absolutely in line with what I expected......Paul venter (talk) 16:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Atlantic puffin
In 2013 I greatly expanded the article Atlantic puffin and brought it successfully to FAC. So I have an ongoing desire to see the article remain of high quality. The information you added seems inherently unlikely to me. Ravens are not usually considered as kleptoparasites in the way suggested and whether puffins have learned to behave in the way mentioned seems unlikely. Unless you can find a reliable source for the information I think it should be removed. I have raised this matter on the article's talk page, so please respond there. Another point, during the FAC process, careful attention is paid to the formatting of references. You have left a bare url in the article as a result of your addition. When editing articles, and especially FAs and GAs, it is best to adopt the format of citations already present in the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- You are the person who wants to add the information so it is your responsibility to provide a reliable source. I tried "Corvus corax kleptoparasite Fratercula arctica" in Google Scholar and found nothing useful. You could look at this but the abstract does not mention fish being included in the raven's diet, and you would still need a source for the puffin behaviour. Do ravens steal puffins' catches? I couldn't find anything about that elsewhere. Some gulls and skuas do however so perhaps you misremembered what species of bird was involved. Or was it a throwaway remark "It almost seems as if the puffins have learned to ..."? I need convincing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:24, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- Are you unable to give the episode number and the timing within the episode? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't want this to look like an edit war between the two of you, so I'll add my comments.
- Although audiovisual material can be used as a reference, you need to give episode and timing, particularly in a featured article. Otherwise it's like give a multi-volume book as a ref without volume or page number
- without pin-pointing the source, we don't know who has said this and with what authority. It could be an opinion from a non-expert, a mistake, or even a reflection of genuine research
- the latter seems unlikely. Two of us at least have failed to find any published source for the claims you have made. A vague reference which can't be examined or verified is not acceptable, particulalry in an FA Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't want this to look like an edit war between the two of you, so I'll add my comments.
- Are you unable to give the episode number and the timing within the episode? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello Paul venter. As per WP:BRD, I have reverted the Tree article back to the version that does not mention "underground trees". This is so the subject can be discussed on the talk page and a consensus can be reached. Please note that my reversion of your edit is not a statement about my personal opinion on the matter. Please also note that if you undertake any further reversions, you will be contravening WP:3RR. Thanks. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
- Paul, please do not keep reverting back to your preferred version while the matter is under dispute - it doesn't solve anything. In order to stop the edit war, consensus must first be gained, and as per WP:BRD, this should be done with the article in its original version. Thanks. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:53, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
- PaleCloudedWhite, instead of telling me not to revert would you kindly be specific about YOUR reasons for removing an adequately sourced contribution? Paul venter (talk) 10:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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- Sorted out - thank you Paul venter (talk) 08:57, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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Fixing up the new ghost shrimp article
Hello Paul. I saw your new article on Callichirus kraussi. I fixed it up a bit to make it easier for a reader to find the info they want. I might also suggest that you start a very simple genus article on Callichirus which is not hard to do by copying and cutting down the species article and adding a species list. That way you could link to the species article from the genus one. You can use WoRMS as a source. WoRMS even gives you the citation to use at the bottom of each taxon page:
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=367974
If you create a genus page, no matter how simple, your species article would no longer be an orphan. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 11:45, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Origin of the name San Diego
Hello! Yes, I know that you believe San Diego is named for Santiago or Saint James. But it isn't. I just added an "etymology" section to the article, with a scholarly reference that clearly shows the area was named San Diego after Saint Didacus of Alcala (better known as San Diego). The still-exiting mission in San Diego is also called San Diego de Alcala (not Santiago de Compostello or any other variant of Santiago). Thanks for caring about San Diego, but we have to go with what the references say - not what some people believe. --MelanieN (talk) 18:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- P.S. Even if "Didacus" is a Latinized form of "Diego", which it probably is, the "Diego" or James that the city was named for was not James the Apostle, the patron saint of Spain. San Diego de Alcala was a 15th-century monk. --MelanieN (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hi - that is not a compelling argument. Your scholarly reference has many 'scholarly' sources disagree with him - for one see http://www.behindthename.com/name/diego. Perhaps you might also read Santiago (name) and Diego. Failing to mention 'Santiago' in the etymology section and linking 'San Diego' directly with 'Saint Didacus' is blatantly ignoring dissident views and is a philological travesty. Paul venter (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- This discussion has been copied to the article's talk page and continues there. --MelanieN (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hi - that is not a compelling argument. Your scholarly reference has many 'scholarly' sources disagree with him - for one see http://www.behindthename.com/name/diego. Perhaps you might also read Santiago (name) and Diego. Failing to mention 'Santiago' in the etymology section and linking 'San Diego' directly with 'Saint Didacus' is blatantly ignoring dissident views and is a philological travesty. Paul venter (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hi MWAK - Yes, I noticed that.......I've been offline for the last 4 days, but will ask Bruce Rubidge about that tomorrow. I should think it was just a careless blunder, but a bad one since it implies that HE misidentified the fossils.
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- Thank you! In any case, it would be interesting to determine the exact identity of the discoverer.--MWAK (talk) 15:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've talked to Bruce Rubidge and he agrees it's a blunder, but one of the co-authors Jonah is still unavailable.....
- We can only wait :o).--MWAK (talk) 19:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've talked to Bruce Rubidge and he agrees it's a blunder, but one of the co-authors Jonah is still unavailable.....
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Hi Paul. I see you're working on the Drosera magnifica article. You might want to use this piece of news for a source as well: http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/scienceandhealth/2015/07/1662281-biologists-discover-new-species-of-giant-carnivorous-plant.shtml --Pikolas (talk) 12:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Yes indeed!! I put up the tag "in use" to convey the impression that I was busy on the article, while I went off for a spot of lunch. I had hoped that the message "This article is actively undergoing a major edit for a short while. To help avoid edit conflicts, please do not edit this page while this message is displayed" would be sufficient to stave off editors who were itching to tell me the various respects in which the article was still incomplete - but, to no avail. On a positive note, I'm sure that you perform a useful service on Misplaced Pages. cheers Paul venter (talk) 12:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Agreed that this has no content, but I am working on an article with the same title at https://en.wikipedia.org/Francisco_Javier_Mat%C3%ADs and am concerned that deleting the zero content article will affect the other one. The duplication of titles came about when I attemped a redirect which went wrong. cheers Paul venter (talk) 21:35, 12 April 2020 (UTC) Paul venter (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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The new Johann Jakob Walther (artist) article
Hi Paul. I just compared the Johann Jakob Walther (artist) article you created today and the article Johann Walter (painter). Is there any chance these two articles might refer to the same person? They both worked for Count Johann of Nassau-Idstein in the seventeenth century and they both produced floral anthologies, two of which survive today. Best regards — Hebrides (talk) 20:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Hebrides, Undoubtedly the same. The Wiki search engine and Google search both missed this, perhaps because most reliable sources spelled 'Walther' with an 'h'. I will merge the articles after looking again into the Walter/Walther spelling issue. Thank you for the heads-up. Cheers Paul venter (talk) 04:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
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Archibald Fullarton
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- Biographical info on Fullarton himself
- Biographical info on John MacNab - see https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/3c969ae5-056b-44ca-8440-dab40736c661
- History of the company (when did it begin, what happened to it?) - maybe about 1810 to 1880?
- Glasgow, or Edinburgh - see https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1824-beauties-rev-ralph-erskine-1732808127 - appears Edinburgh from circa 1843 onwards; New York enterprise of Fullarton, MacNab & Co; printing enterprise of Fullarton and MacNab, Leith Walk, Edinburgh
- Connection and separate existence with Khull, Blackie and any other Blackie connections - see Blackie_and_Son; "Blackie, Fullarton, and Co" in late 1820s to 1830
- Legal case of Atlas Company against Fullarton
- Connection with the Secession Church (Seceders, Associate Presbytery) as Fullarton's published works by Ralph and Ebenezer Erskine, John Brown of Haddington, and Ralph Wardlaw, as well as other evangelical authors from Scotland and elsewhere
I have had some 70 items for sale over the past 20 years with Fullarton included in the publisher name. Can provide records sorted by date showing different associations of names during the 19th century. --PeterR2 (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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