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== How to join the CVU? ==


How do I officially join the CVU? ] (]) 19:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
==Umm... Help==
I have not logged on nor edited articles in a while however,
I just recieved a message saying that my Ip ({{user|70.50.199.91}}) has been vandilising articles and will be banned if i don't stop. Umm... what the hell, I have not vandilized any articles nor know of anyone else in my household who even goes on wikipedia. It could be because we have a wireless interet conection and someone is stealing it or something and i have no idea what else to do or where else to complain. So could you help me out and give me some sugestions, seriously, this is pissing me off. --] 18:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


:Add any of the banners at ] to your userpage. ] (]) 19:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
where did you recieve this message? --] 19:14, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::Do I need to get any sort of training? ] (]) 19:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
:::No formal training is required, but we have lot of resources linked here: ] and also at the ] to understand what specifically ] and also on common ] that can help you spot vandalism, such as RedWarn and Twinkle to name two of the most popular tools to help with things such as ] and RedWarn being able to help group them with likely problematic edits. ] (]) 19:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Last question, how do I join “wiki projects” and how do I join other roles such as page reviewer, rollbacker, check user, ect.. ] (]) 19:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
:::::Most of them have a membership list that you can add yourself, which is usually linked at the frontpage of the wikiproject and some you join by simply placing a banner such as the CVU one on your userpage.
:::::As for other more advanced roles, such as ] or ], again all of those typically have the instructions on those respective pages, many of which will require you to first gain more experience in editing on Misplaced Pages and then if the permission is relevant for the type of editing you decided interests you, you can request them at ], which also has a listing of many common advanced permissions and the high level requirements.
:::::Note that you don't necessarily need many advanced permissions to do a lot of useful things on Misplaced Pages, it just depends what area of editing sounds interesting to you.
:::::In general, if you want to learn more and have more questions, you can check out the ], which serves as a forum for newcomers to ask questions on any topic around editing on Misplaced Pages. I also just posted a ] on your User talk page with more helpful links to help you get started. Happy editing. ] (]) 21:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Also want to point out that another important area of vandalism to look for is subtle/undetected vandalism, which can stick around much longer than new changes. I've written some about it but even just searching questionable words/phrases can turn a lot up. ] (]) 05:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)


== Zombo getting targeted ==
A fe minutes before posting this. --] 19:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't log in to Misplaced Pages frequently enough to do this justice, so I thought I'd throw this out there in case someone else cares to. ] appears to be getting targeted by an IP-address vandal for "silly" (and tasteless/offensive, IMO) vandalism. Multiple edits have needed to be reverted in the past month. The last incident had "revert obvious vandalism" as the edit summary, muddying the water.
] (]) 00:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)


== Does anti-vandalism detect bad faith reverts? ==
:yes, but ''where''? i can't see a vandalism warning on your userpage, or your ip's userpage? --] 12:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


if so, is there any way of seeing a list for a project? ] (]) 10:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:If it's your wireless, you should secure it. Someone could do a lot worse than vandalize WP from you IP, and if they're vandalising, they might not be the sorts of people you want sharing your bandwidth anyway. ----]|<sup>]</sup>|<sub>]</sub> 20:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

==CVUtan==
]
Just to show that I want everyone to suffer: <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
:/me applauds! — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::Not bad. :) Me likey. I'd prefer her with a mop though since people will call us military because she is holding riot gear... --<small>] ]</small> 14:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::so will that be a gateling mop or a howitzer mop?] 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Gently cleaning/holding (just like how a maid would do). A new wiki-tan image might be drawn for it. :) --<small>] ]</small> 14:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::I can see why a mop would be appropriate, but I think she'd look very cute with a feather duster, and maybe a little frilly maid's cap. Her costume already looks a bit like a french maid outfit. -- ] | ] 16:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::I'm would think that would be more sutiple of the various syntax repair people. Unless you are tlaking about a RPFD with a tandem warhead.] 18:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I would advise a mop as the mop represents admins, something we aren't. ] 19:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

AAAHHHHHHH *dumps alcohol in eyes* --] ] 20:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:Is this some sort of bad joke? Did I just die and go to hell? What the hell is that... that... thing over there -> ?--<b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]<sup>(]•])</sup></span></b> 21:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
::It an attempt to blackmail the foundation.] 21:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, I certainly think that it will accomplish that ;) --<b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;">]]<sup>(]•])</sup></span></b> 21:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Geni, that is '''brilliant'''. Best laugh I've had all week. ]] 21:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

OMG that is OUTSTANDING I feel out of my chair I was laughing so hard. <font color="SteelBlue">]</font> <font color="red"><sup>]</sup></font><sub><font color="Green">]</font></sub> 03:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

:All chuckles aside, this little "joke" is evidence - obviously intended to belittle and insult a group of Users within the Misplaced Pages organization, those devoted to actively cleaning up vandalism. At this point we need a mature independent Administrator, who is not a stakeholder in the argument whether the CVU should or should not be allowed to exist, to look at intervening on the behalf of some Users, who are clearly under attack as a group for whatever reason. --] 14:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::Being POV (PRO-CVU) I think this logo is great, and am in NO way insulted by it, not think it should be seen in any way as a personal attack by . — ] <sup>]</sup> 15:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
:::the logo is not an attack on the CVU. While I would not describe myself as being pro CVU (I hate being pro things people expect you to get involved and stuff) I'm yet to see what I think logicaly sound argument against their existance. The image is mostly a joke (I have a very strange sense of humor) but not one aimed at the CVU (if anything it contains a slight dig at the foundations policy on the use of their logos).] 16:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
:Attack on the CVU or not, you guys plagiarized the ] logo and I thought you guys ''didn't'' vandalise other people's work, considering yourselves part of an ''anti-vandal organization.'' What i'm trying to say is...you guys '''vandalized''' the logo of WikiProject Anime and manga! I thought you guys were supposed to PREVENT vandalism, not PROMOTE it! Is the CVU trying to have a good laugh before it dissolves by its own ]? ] 18:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::credit is given to the two works it is derived from. That covers both plagiarism and copyright. One of the side effects of the GFDL is that people can create derivative works.] 18:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Exactly, and this is one of the potential project mascots for all of wikipediak ]. Vandalism would be if the production copy was chaged, forking is NOT vandalism. — ] <sup>]</sup> 18:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::::even if it weren't licenced under GFDL, the fact remains that ]. --] 19:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Nice job, CVU. I, at least, find the juxtaposition of girl+riot gear hilarious. --] 18:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Abso-freaking-lutely hilarious. ] 18:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

To above I didn't think of it as a Personal Attack. I think the image is cute and funny! <font color="SteelBlue">]</font> <font color="red"><sup>]</sup></font><sub><font color="Green">]</font></sub> 00:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
:With the help of ], I created a new logo. Its released with a free license and does not use any wikipedia/wikimedia logos. Enjoy. --<small>] ]</small> 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== Current Deletion Discussions ==
#THE COUNTER-VANDALISM UNIT IS NOW BEING CONSIDERED FOR DELETION AT ]. Please feel free to vote there. --<small>] ]</small> 16:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
#] is up for renaming at ], please discuss it there. — ] <sup>]</sup> 03:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

:Huh. Checkuser shows that Dr Chatterjee = Bobby Boulders ''= WoW''. Looks like that funny stuff in my eyes was just wool after all! Well, back to vandal thumping... --] | <sup>]</sup> 20:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::No suprise there... Really... --<small>] ]</small> 23:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

== New logo avalible under a free license ==

]
New logo, will certainly slience the copyright complaits. The previous logo will undergo a board review. --<small>] ]</small> 21:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:The "Wikimedia Foundation" text still needs to be removed. —]→]&nbsp;&bull; 21:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Why? In anycase asuming we have to do that, can someone mirror the top text to the bottom? My photoshop doesnt go that far... --<small>] ]</small> 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't know if it is a legal necessity, but this page/project/group is not a affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation; having "Wikimedia" or "Misplaced Pages" might be fine, but "Wikimedia Foundation" is the non-profit organization in its official capacity. —]→]&nbsp;&bull; 22:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::We are affiliated in a volunteer sense in no war are we official. I think the logo should have some connection to the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects and since I cant use the logos, this is the only thing that comes to my mind. "Misplaced Pages", "Wikimedia", and "Wikimedia Foundation" are equaly problematic on the image (or not problematic at all).
::::I'll wait for what the board/trademark commitee has to say. If they complain I'll react accordingly... If they dont, there really isnt a problem anyways.
::::--<small>] ]</small> 22:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::Oh, nevermind, someone was eager to censor it already. --<small>] ]</small> 22:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::I don't think it is the foundation you will have to worry about but all the people complaining you are trying to appear official. You will find a foundation free copy of the logo in the history on commons. oh And I can't find a way to mirror the top text on the bottem without creating it from scratch. What is the font?] 22:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::Don't circular logos where the text goes around the entire image usually go upside down on the lower half? In that case, all you'd need to do would be copy-paste and rotate the upper text to the bottom. (Example: ]) --] 22:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I tried that it sucked.] 23:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::::I didnt add the text as my photoshop skills suck. ] chose that font and I doubt he'll remembers it. --<small>] ]</small> 23:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:Win, very win. I liked the old Wikipe-tan one to start with, and since this doesn't have that supposedly negative police force connotation, the new one is less controversial. Good job. --] 21:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::Shouldn't she have a paint roller instead :)? --]|<sup>]</sup>|<sub>]</sub> 23:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Why paint roller? --] 23:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Well cleaning vandalism up sound more approporate, and paint roler wouldnt fit the maid outfit. --<small>] ]</small> 23:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I like! <font color="SteelBlue">]</font> <font color="red"><sup>]</sup></font><sub><font color="Green">]</font></sub> 23:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::The array of userboxes has been updated, and is on display at ]. — ] <sup>]</sup> 02:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
That's humiliating. Oh well, it's worth it if it keeps the CVU alive. --] <sup>]</sup> 05:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:What's humiliating? That you now have the ]? --] 05:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
::Oh I have no probelm with Wiki-Tan. It's the house-wife-with-a-mop that gets to me. We are '''not''' sysops. Also, did you see the expression? She looks hardly successful, even though the CVU is meeting its objectives quite nicely. --] <sup>]</sup> 06:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:::It's not a housewife, it's a maid. You may have a point with the sysop thing. Her expression is a happy/determined one, not sad or anything. You must not have zoomed in on the image. --] 06:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I still don't like it. Maybe if her legs weren't like that... and she was smiling... Yeah, like the Russian oar girl. But still, the mop... What was wrong with riot gear anyway? --] <sup>]</sup> 08:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

:::::You mean asside from the image not scaleing down to well? andyway you can use ] if you want.] 15:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I am. I even substituted it so my user page doesn't change every time PC is in. I just offered my opinion about the official CVU logo.--] <sup>]</sup> 15:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

:could use both but it isn't really my place to make any judgments.] 16:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

:What's with the new logos with anime? Can't we have more designs like the blue logo. The wierd anime girl logo is wierd/ ]] 11:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::I've remade the blue logo, smoothing out some of the rough spots and making the seal round again (it was cut off at the edges). I also added a new version with "CVU" in the center, which should be beneficial to the userboxes, etc. I may come out with a new design soon. As you may know, the logos are based on ]. --] 12:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
::The anime logo is necesary because people are complaining that we are some sort of millitary organization strictly based on the logo. Since no millitary has an anime charater as their logo, that slicences that. Also, she is cute. :P --<small>] ]</small> 20:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Yeah. All she needs now is some sort of a battlemech with the letters VP engraved on it...--] <sup>]</sup> 20:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

== remove deletion at the top? ==

It's five days should the deletion tag be removed?---] <sub>]</sub> <sub>]</sub> <sub> </sub> 00:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:MFD runs for 8 days, but it has now been closed. — ] <sup>]</sup> 01:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

== ??? ==
Why did the CVU logo go through so many changes? ] 01:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:In a nutshell, there were copyright issues with the derrvited images, out of a nutsehll:see above. — ] <sup>]</sup> 06:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

== Name to suit our logo? ==

Why not change our name to suit the logo? ] is under trademark no doubt, unless someone wants to claim fair-use. What about "Anime Maids of Misplaced Pages" or "Wikipe-tan Janitors Association"? I'm sorry... The logo just makes me want to drop on the floor laughing every time I see it. But seriously is the logo staying? And what about choosing a new name?--] 03:46, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:"Maids of Misplaced Pages" and "Janitors association" make ''me'' want to drop on the floor and die. CVU is perfectly good as it is.--] <sup>]</sup> 06:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:: Well, about the matching uniforms: you can always get the ones as pictured on ]... ]]<sup>(])</sup> 06:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Now '''that's''' a logo I can live with. --] <sup>]</sup> 06:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Maybe we can use that one to replace the {{tl|test4}} hand hrm.--] 06:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::Agree with Chodorkovskiy above, leave it be, especially now that we just got done with rounds and rounds of deletion disucssions. — ] <sup>]</sup> 06:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I like "CVU" to be honest. --] 18:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:"Anime Maids of Misplaced Pages" is too long. How about "Animaids of Misplaced Pages"? ] 20:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::Lets leave the name alone. but I do like the french maid. Just picture it a vandal sitting there vandaising a way and the message pops up with a french maid saying this is your last warning, I would die laughing if that happened to me. <font color="SteelBlue">]</font> <font color="red"><sup>]</sup></font><sub><font color="Green">]</font></sub> 05:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
:::While I like the idea, the image in question is copyrighted. --] <sup>]</sup> 08:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

==MfD messageboxes==
I'd like to see a message box at the top of this page that says something like "All prior nominations of this page for deletion have been made in bad faith by known vandals. Nominators of this page for deletion should provide evidence substantiating their reasons for nomination". Just a hurdle, the wording can change -- <font color="#CC0000">Clappingsimon</font> ] 09:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
:Those boxes are being transcluded from ], although they may have been started that way, the third nomination was full of content/context based discussion as well (non-consensus, closer to keep then delete it felt like though). — ] <sup>]</sup> 21:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
::Why not just mention that they (the first two) were "bad-faith nominations"? --] 17:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

== Watching the FAs ==

How about putting the following suggestion into the "detection" part of the project page: "temporarily put the daily featured article on your watchlist, as it is bound to become a target for vandals". Or something of the sort, you get my point. --] <sup>]</sup> 15:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

:A good idea. I generally try to do it if I have the time, and I've caught a lot of vandalism like that (even if I did have to sully my contribution list with a Pokemon character...). ] 16:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

==]==
Please watch out for vandalism at ] due to its obious atractiveness. Our glorious RCP'ers missed today. - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 18:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
:It lasted a full 20 minutes. How fucking horrible. I'm going home. --] <sup>]</sup> 18:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
::Oy vey... Some articles seem ''made'' for vandalism... added to watchlist. ] 18:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I know it lasted 20 minutes, but I had a notion that someone had an eye on RCP at all times, more or less, and an IP edit to ] must be on of the most suspicious recent changes ''ever''!! :) - <b>]</b><small> ]/]</small> 18:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I use ], which singles out that kind of vandalism really well. (Of course, I wasn't using it ''this morning''...) --] <sup>] · <font color="green">]</font></sup> 20:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

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How to join the CVU?

How do I officially join the CVU? John Bois (talk) 19:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Add any of the banners at Category:Wikipedians in the Counter-Vandalism Unit to your userpage. Raladic (talk) 19:23, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Do I need to get any sort of training? John Bois (talk) 19:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
No formal training is required, but we have lot of resources linked here: Misplaced Pages:Counter-Vandalism Unit and also at the Misplaced Pages:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy to understand what specifically constitutes vandalism and also on common Misplaced Pages:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools that can help you spot vandalism, such as RedWarn and Twinkle to name two of the most popular tools to help with things such as patrolling recent changes and RedWarn being able to help group them with likely problematic edits. Raladic (talk) 19:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Last question, how do I join “wiki projects” and how do I join other roles such as page reviewer, rollbacker, check user, ect.. John Bois (talk) 19:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Most of them have a membership list that you can add yourself, which is usually linked at the frontpage of the wikiproject and some you join by simply placing a banner such as the CVU one on your userpage.
As for other more advanced roles, such as rollerbacker or page reviewer, again all of those typically have the instructions on those respective pages, many of which will require you to first gain more experience in editing on Misplaced Pages and then if the permission is relevant for the type of editing you decided interests you, you can request them at WP:PERMS, which also has a listing of many common advanced permissions and the high level requirements.
Note that you don't necessarily need many advanced permissions to do a lot of useful things on Misplaced Pages, it just depends what area of editing sounds interesting to you.
In general, if you want to learn more and have more questions, you can check out the WP:TEAHOUSE, which serves as a forum for newcomers to ask questions on any topic around editing on Misplaced Pages. I also just posted a Welcome message on your User talk page with more helpful links to help you get started. Happy editing. Raladic (talk) 21:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Also want to point out that another important area of vandalism to look for is subtle/undetected vandalism, which can stick around much longer than new changes. I've written some about it but even just searching questionable words/phrases can turn a lot up. Gnomingstuff (talk) 05:49, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Zombo getting targeted

I don't log in to Misplaced Pages frequently enough to do this justice, so I thought I'd throw this out there in case someone else cares to. Zombo (singer) appears to be getting targeted by an IP-address vandal for "silly" (and tasteless/offensive, IMO) vandalism. Multiple edits have needed to be reverted in the past month. The last incident had "revert obvious vandalism" as the edit summary, muddying the water. Bsammon (talk) 00:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Does anti-vandalism detect bad faith reverts?

if so, is there any way of seeing a list for a project? Wakelamp db (talk) 10:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)