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One guy did not bother with a edit summary, the next figures the Times of India is linkspam and the views of the Minister of Home Affairs is undue weight to a non legal opinion, since when has that been policy? ] (]) 22:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Please try and restrict the POV in the investigations section. There's a lot of selective quoting happening there. ] 19:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

:You mean the non-qualified opinion of a ] politician should be included on the page? Its very interesting that no investigation has been concluded as to the culprits behind this attack. Nobody has been convicted. This is purely a political statement and not an announcement, as is quite obvious from the source. Hence it gives ''undue weight'' to Shinde's views. It is linkspam because the same user pasted the same article across a swath of pages in the lead section, when these pages are generally limited to the announcements of investigators (the actual people qualified to comment on whether training camps exist or on who planted the bombs). Misplaced Pages has policies against undue weight and spamming, and on reliable sourcing, which the user I reverted violated. Obviously this sort of nuance doesn't fit in an edit summary.]<sup>]</sup> 23:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
::Erm, no. Pages like this also have statements from politicians and other commentators, show me the policy which says articles cannot have such. The opinion of the minister for home affairs is relevant to the article and can stay. It is not link spam nor undue weight. If you disagree feel free to seek a third opinion or call an RFC. 23:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)] (])
:::This page has a "reactions" and an "investigations" section. Which of these does a comment made six years after the fact by a partisan political hack belong to? Furthermore, the part about "terrorist training camps" has no other cachet in reliable sources outside Shinde's statement, hence a clear violation of ]. The literal part of the policy that concerns this is the line "discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic." Shinde's statement in this case is not even impartial. It definitely is being used, however, as a spot to throw allegations about BJP/RSS terror camps in the mainspace (these terror camps are not verifiable in any reliable source, and as such are "allegations").]<sup>]</sup> 23:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
::::The statement is attributed, it is reliably sourced. There is no policy for not including it. Get a ] and I'll abide by that. ] (]) 23:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
::::I also see a great many sources discussing this so undue weight is not an issue at all. ] (]) 23:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

the article lacked reality that people held in the name of SIMI activist were innocent and baised by not naming Abhinav Bharat,a Hindu terrorist organization who was behind the attack and not mention the sarcasm of Indian society for electing a Hindu terrorist in parliament <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</small>

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The article don't have prevailing narrative that in early investigation Maharashtra ] spot ] hand behind Malegaon bomb blast<ref> 'Times Of India, October 30 2006'</ref><ref> 'Economics Time, November 28 2006'</ref>
But, When ] took the over the case then a new chargesheet filed in 2013 charged Abhinav Bharat as "Perpetrators"<ref></ref> -- <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>
: The prime suspect has been elected to the Parliament. So you can go take a nap. -- ] (]) 23:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

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One guy did not bother with a edit summary, the next figures the Times of India is linkspam and the views of the Minister of Home Affairs is undue weight to a non legal opinion, since when has that been policy? Darkness Shines (talk) 22:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

You mean the non-qualified opinion of a United Progressive Alliance politician should be included on the page? Its very interesting that no investigation has been concluded as to the culprits behind this attack. Nobody has been convicted. This is purely a political statement and not an announcement, as is quite obvious from the source. Hence it gives undue weight to Shinde's views. It is linkspam because the same user pasted the same article across a swath of pages in the lead section, when these pages are generally limited to the announcements of investigators (the actual people qualified to comment on whether training camps exist or on who planted the bombs). Misplaced Pages has policies against undue weight and spamming, and on reliable sourcing, which the user I reverted violated. Obviously this sort of nuance doesn't fit in an edit summary.Pectore 23:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Erm, no. Pages like this also have statements from politicians and other commentators, show me the policy which says articles cannot have such. The opinion of the minister for home affairs is relevant to the article and can stay. It is not link spam nor undue weight. If you disagree feel free to seek a third opinion or call an RFC. 23:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Darkness Shines (talk)
This page has a "reactions" and an "investigations" section. Which of these does a comment made six years after the fact by a partisan political hack belong to? Furthermore, the part about "terrorist training camps" has no other cachet in reliable sources outside Shinde's statement, hence a clear violation of WP:UNDUE. The literal part of the policy that concerns this is the line "discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic." Shinde's statement in this case is not even impartial. It definitely is being used, however, as a spot to throw allegations about BJP/RSS terror camps in the mainspace (these terror camps are not verifiable in any reliable source, and as such are "allegations").Pectore 23:24, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The statement is attributed, it is reliably sourced. There is no policy for not including it. Get a WP:3O and I'll abide by that. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I also see a great many sources discussing this so undue weight is not an issue at all. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

the article lacked reality that people held in the name of SIMI activist were innocent and baised by not naming Abhinav Bharat,a Hindu terrorist organization who was behind the attack and not mention the sarcasm of Indian society for electing a Hindu terrorist in parliament — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.43.126.144 (talk) 08:43, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

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The article don't have prevailing narrative that in early investigation Maharashtra ATS spot SIMI hand behind Malegaon bomb blast But, When NIA took the over the case then a new chargesheet filed in 2013 charged Abhinav Bharat as "Perpetrators" -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.43.107.232 (talkcontribs)

The prime suspect has been elected to the Parliament. So you can go take a nap. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. < Malegaon blast SIMI activist held 'Times Of India, October 30 2006'
  2. < Police crack malegaon serial blast spot SIMI hand 'Economics Time, November 28 2006'
  3. The state Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) initially blamed the bombings on the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), but a chargesheet filed in 2013 blame on the Abhinav Bharat
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