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	== Did Robert Merton really coin the expression? ==
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	Acoording to the article he did, or at least he is credited with it. But how about then (from 1841)? Or (from 1854)? ] (]) 14:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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	:Good find. Cite as 1841 article<ref name=Carlyle-1841>{{Citation
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	\| quote = We say, let the ''idea'' of ''what we want'' penetrate our rulers and our people, and it will be a ''self fulfilling prophecy of what we shall have.''
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	== Your complaints about the article at the top ==
			== Introduction (non psychological aspects missing?) ==

			The introduction only deals with psychological, whereas the article also includes literature and causal loop. Is there maybe something missing in the introduction (non psychological) ... sci fi -> ] ... self fulfilling prophecies? --] (]) 15:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
	Either research and put in the references yourself, or stop complaining and making this article unreadable.

			== Tow very important examples ==
	Your quality assurance nazis have run amuck. It is easy to pick at and dismiss work because of format. It is extremely difficult to create the content in the first place.

			One is Voltaire, Francois Marie Arouet, the other is Marx, voltaire with the french revolution, marx with the communist revolutions ] (]) 02:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
	Maybe that is why the original content folks are disappearing. Once the "not notable" and pickiness folks start criticising and piling on ... it is not worth tangling with them.

			== "Moore's law predicting that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit (IC) doubles about every two years is often considered as a self-fulfilling prophecy." ==
	Have a nice day. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			By whom? It is certainly true that everybody in the industry has heard of it, and a case could be made that they feel a subconscious drive to keep up with the pace set by this law. But such a drive would be superfluous - even if the law had never been enunciated, the industry would ''still'' be highly motivated to make things smaller and faster. If we accept the latter proposition (and I think it eminently plausible) then the prophecy cannot be considered self-fulfilling. ] (]) 13:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
	== Lack of References and Information ==

	There are not enough references to each fact that are both reliable and relatable to the individual fact. For example, "In Canadian hockey, junior league players are selected based on skill, motor coordination, physical maturity, and other individual merit criteria." Where did this statistic come from and how reliable is it?
	Also, according to whom did the following take place?
	"Merton took the concept a step further and applied it to recent social phenomena."
	There needs to be clarification as to where this information came from.
	Where is this "extensive evidence"?
	"There is extensive evidence of "Interpersonal Expectation Effects" where the seemingly private expectations of individuals can predict the outcome of the world around them."
	There is a lack of information as to what the "extensive evidence" is. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:00, 20 February 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	==Lack of Cites, Irrelevant Info, and Direct Quotes ==

	There are many different citations missing from different parts of the article.. It directly from different articles several times, for example the 1948 . Doesn't have enough evidence to support the statement that self-fulfilling prophecy stems from Merton's theorem. Goes out of topic talking about economic theories and models. Give conclusion on how to break the prophecy cycle, but Misplaced Pages is about facts not how to's. Directly quotes from Karl Popper article. Goes way off topic giving too many examples(over presented) of where self fulfilling prophecies can be found in literature. The Canadian Hockey reference is irrelevant, and just confuses or distracts from giving facts of what a self fulfilling prophecy is.] (]) 01:40, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

	== Missing citations ==

	It is great to use so much information, but certain sections have no research to verify their information. Without a source it is hard to determine if the information is unbiased and correctly relayed. In the sections about Russia and India non e of this information ties back to a source. Without sources these sections can easily be labeled as false information.

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Introduction (non psychological aspects missing?)

The introduction only deals with psychological, whereas the article also includes literature and causal loop. Is there maybe something missing in the introduction (non psychological) ... sci fi -> timetravel ... self fulfilling prophecies? --Alien4 (talk) 15:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Tow very important examples

One is Voltaire, Francois Marie Arouet, the other is Marx, voltaire with the french revolution, marx with the communist revolutions 114.122.104.195 (talk) 02:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

"Moore's law predicting that the number of transistors in an integrated circuit (IC) doubles about every two years is often considered as a self-fulfilling prophecy."

By whom? It is certainly true that everybody in the industry has heard of it, and a case could be made that they feel a subconscious drive to keep up with the pace set by this law. But such a drive would be superfluous - even if the law had never been enunciated, the industry would still be highly motivated to make things smaller and faster. If we accept the latter proposition (and I think it eminently plausible) then the prophecy cannot be considered self-fulfilling. 2A01:CB0C:761:5B00:7908:56A4:D005:CA3F (talk) 13:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

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