| Revision as of 14:15, 23 April 2017 editSW3 5DL (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers21,544 edits →Donald Trump: A friendly word of caution: cmt← Previous edit | Latest revision as of 00:05, 19 November 2024 edit undoMediaWiki message delivery (talk | contribs)Bots3,134,948 edits →ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message: new sectionTag: MassMessage delivery | ||
| (955 intermediate revisions by more than 100 users not shown) | |||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
| == Mention in the news == | |||
| Not sure if you've noticed, but . It definitely has some interesting commentary. Can't say I'm surprised by what it says about working on election-related articles. ] (] / ]) 15:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I hadn't noticed, thanks.] (]) 15:38, 27 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::That's pretty cool! Congrats! --] (]) 17:45, 27 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Grats! Pretty cool.] (]) 13:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Constructive suggestion == | |||
| ⚖️ | |||
| If you follow da rulez and work collaboratively with your fellow editors more consistently--not just superficially, but actually--then I posit that the Misplaced Pages hierarchy will stop you. --] (]) 17:37, 27 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :I disagree with your premise.] (]) 17:41, 27 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::Which part? Da rulez or collaboration? --] (]) 16:00, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Yes. Anyway, have a fun couple weeks, feel free to email, and otherwise I'm away from here.] (]) 16:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Help with adding to Talk page == | |||
| ==You're famous== | |||
| You have been mentioned and quoted in a Washington Post article (27 October 2016) . Does this mean I have been editing with someone who is famous? When will autographs be available? ---] (]) | |||
| I would like to add a sentence to the Hunter Biden laptop controversy article. I see that you have made edits to the page. The page is protected, so I went to the Talk page | |||
| I see someone already told you - oh well. ---] (]) | |||
| :Infamous if you believe AE.] (]) 04:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::I was laughing so hard at the coverage of the photos and the corresponding comments (because this is exactly how we editors are). I think this shows the we Misplaced Pages editors are excessively nitpicky :-) :-) In any case, I am glad the photo selection process was covered because it shows the work we put into these articles. ---] (]) 04:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ] | |||
| == Allegation of disruptive canvassing == | |||
| and clicked "Click here to start a new topic", then composed my suggestion. But when I click "Add topic", it just shows moving slanted lines for a second, and then gives up. I have tried this several times. What do I need to do to actually add the topic? ] (]) 03:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Please stop it with the ]ing . The policy is clear: ''"However, canvassing which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate. This is because it compromises the normal consensus decision-making process, and therefore is generally considered disruptive behavior."''. This is exactly what you are doing, and on an article subject to discretionary sanctions, barely a few days after your topic ban expired. You are going around basically asking other editors to edit war for you. This is disruptive behavior.] (]) 16:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| : |
::I reported the glitch at ]. I assume you’re not a registered user, but if you become one then it will likely work for you.] (]) 05:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | ||
| :::I have a login, Swan2024, which I created several hours ago in case that was the reason I couldn't add the topic. Is that sufficient for "registered user"? ] (]) 05:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Anything, here's a thought. Since so many folks are telling you to cut out the TE and disruptive editing on abortion and politics, why don't we all agree -- you can draft your own AE complaint and then we'll get it adjudicated once and for all, up or down, one way or another, and then we can all ] ? ]] 16:47, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Should work without logging in, but almost certainly will work when you’re logged in, ]. Good luck. The likely cause of your difficulty is that you were trying to add a topic with just one or two words in the header, and/or one or two words in your comment. Misplaced Pages requires more words from users who aren’t logged in, so as to filter out spam.] (]) 05:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::You are not "broadening the discussion". You are asking others to revert for you.] (]) 16:49, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Bullshit. I notified other editors to participate in a discussion of their edits. And the edits were diametrically opposed to each other.] (]) 16:50, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I must have missed the part where you notified ''me''. ]] 17:25, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I contacted the people involved in the edit war that followed the RFC closure.] (]) 21:25, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Very clever. I never edit war, so I was out of the loooop. ]] 21:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Regarding ] == | |||
| == ]: Voting now open! == | |||
| First, thank you for restoring the text I mistakenly removed. I have restored directly from Carguychris' edit. If you believe your version is better, than just revert my last two edits. | |||
| {{Ivmbox|Hello, Anythingyouwant. Voting in the ''']''' is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. | |||
| ], here is my perspective. You made a claim there are not reliable sources, which was refuted. You made a claim that it was the media that amplified the hoax, which has not been proven outside unreliable sources like Fox News. When you provide your list of sources, then we can see your perspective and discuss. Until then, it looks like the three of us don't agree with your perspective. Alternatively, if you want to suggest alternative wording, then go ahead and do so. I already made one such change when you didn't agree with the word 'they' and am willing to work together on wording. I just am opposed to the removal of details about what happened. --] (]) 04:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| The ] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the ]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose ], ], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The ] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. | |||
| :To explain why I didn't get your other ping and seemed to be ignoring your message, you put your signature on a newline. As noted at ], "he edit must be signed by adding <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> to the end of the message." The system acted as if you had made two messages and ignored the ping to me in the first message. Hope that clears things up a bit. --] (]) 05:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review ] and submit your choices on ''']'''. ] (]) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :], thanks for visiting my user talk. Regarding nazis, please see ], which says, “The first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific.” You say above that you’re “opposed to the removal of details about what happened.” But I don’t object to putting nazi details in the article body, or even later in the lead if people feel strongly about it. Just not in the opening paragraph. As far as I know, nazis had no effect on what happened in Springfield, nor any effect on what GOP politicians did. What a horror show Misplaced Pages’s articles on political events would become if they all began with commentary from the nazis on the left, and the Marxists on the right.] (]) 05:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| |Scale of justice 2.svg|imagesize=40px}} | |||
| ::Sources say that neo-Nazi groups were spreading the message along with far-right groups. Given the prominence in reliable sources, we are following a ] by mentioning it in the lede. As for the order of stuff, the only thing I could see that has a shot would be splitting off everything after the first sentence of the first paragraph into a new second paragraph and moving all of the old second paragraph into the first paragraph following the first sentence. | |||
| <!-- Message sent by User:Mdann52 bot@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Mdann52_bot/spamlist/3&oldid=750539315 --> | |||
| ::{{Blockquote|text = Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.<br />The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered, then spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups. These claims were amplified by prominent figures in the American right, most notably Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.<br />The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.}} | |||
| ::I don't know if it could be considered an improvement or not as it waits until the second paragraph to explain what is debunked, though it does put more emphasis that the claims are false. Other than that, I don't have much of a suggestion outside of this other one: | |||
| ::{{Blockquote|text = Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered and rose to national prominence by Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, followed then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.<br />Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist and having been spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups in the area. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.<br />The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.}} | |||
| ::If either of the two work for you, then go ahead and try it. --] (]) 07:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh and I am ]d to this discussion, so feel free to ping or not as I will know either way. --] (]) 08:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::I always prefer being chronological where possible, which helps people to comprehend what happened, one step at a time. That’s why I generally like the opening paragraph as it stands now: it summarizes the major developments one step at a time, in a clear manner. Except that I just think the nazi detail needs to be moved lower in the lead or removed from the lead. As I explained here at my talk page, I am not aware that any nazis affected what happened in Springfield, or affected how GOP politicians reacted to the whole thing. When nazis spread rumors, they typically do so on nazi websites and other places where nazis hang out, but AFAIK they’re not able to spread rumors into the mainstream, and the latter might be significant if it happened, but I’m not aware that it did happen.] (]) 10:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Understood. I did reply on the talk page about what they did in Springfield. As for lowering it in the lead, try it and see if it works. --] (]) 20:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Invitation to participate in a research == | |||
| == ]: Voting now open! == | |||
| Hello, | |||
| {{Ivmbox|Hello, Anythingyouwant. Voting in the ''']''' is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. | |||
| The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Misplaced Pages, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this ''''''. | |||
| The ] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the ]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose ], ], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The ] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. | |||
| You do not have to be an Administrator to participate. | |||
| If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review ] and submit your choices on ''']'''. ] (]) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| |Scale of justice 2.svg|imagesize=40px}} | |||
| <!-- Message sent by User:Mdann52 bot@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Mdann52_bot/spamlist/3&oldid=750539315 --> | |||
| ==] nomination of ]== | |||
| ] | |||
| The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its ] and view its ] . | |||
| A tag has been placed on ] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under ] because it is an unused duplicate of another template, or a hard-coded instance of another template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted. | |||
| Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns. | |||
| If the template is not actually the same as the other template noted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page explaining how this one is different so as to avoid any future mistakes (<tt><nowiki><noinclude>{{substituted}}</noinclude></nowiki></tt>). | |||
| Kind Regards, | |||
| If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by visiting ], where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with ]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request ]. <!-- Template:Db-t3-notice --><!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> – ] (]) 07:13, 28 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ] | |||
| == ] == | |||
| <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">] (]) 19:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC) </bdi> | |||
| <!-- Message sent by User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/search/?title=UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Research_announcement_list_for_enwiki_Potential_Admins&oldid=27650229 --> | |||
| ==Merry, merry!== | |||
| From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! ] (]) 03:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC) ] | |||
| == ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message == | |||
| ::Thanks and to you too!] (]) 21:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| <div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; "> | |||
| == Talk:Donald Trump == | |||
| <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;">]</div> | |||
| <div class="ivmbox-text"> | |||
| Hello! Voting in the ''']''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|end}}-1 day}}. All ''']''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. | |||
| The ] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the ]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose ], ], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The ] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. | |||
| Hi, anything! I was going to reply to your joking comments in the spirit in which you offered them. But I was afraid it might be misunderstood. So about reflexly agreeing with me, I would have said: yes, I've been meaning to speak to you about that, it's been getting embarrassing. As for your Brownie points, I have deposited them to your account. Three more and you get a box of cookies. ] (]) 04:19, 30 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks Melanie. 🙂 I don't know why I bother with Misplaced Pages, but it's generally been nice dealing with you, even when we disagree. Cheers!] (]) 05:39, 30 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == BLP violation == | |||
| I reverted your revert of my . This edit was made by an IP. Just because the source, which is not reliable, is making this association, does not mean Misplaced Pages should go along with this. This suggests Donald Trump had a hand in this and there are no reliable sources associating him with this event. ] (]) 18:31, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Please look carefully at . Did it remove anything about a bombing at Canary Wharf?] (]) 18:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :It's not relevant to that article, and you know exactly what this source is implying. It does not belong on Misplaced Pages. I don't know if you are attempting to be deliberately provocative or not, but this source is not reliable. ] (]) 18:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::I . Would you please acknowledge that?] (]) 18:41, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::See ], ]. ] (]) 18:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Please acknowledge that you have looked at the link I gave in my previous comment. Thank you.] (]) 18:46, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::What I saw was that you reverted my removal of the BLP violation and then thought you could just leave off the mention of the Canary Wharf bombing while also leaving in place the source, which leaves no doubt it wants to imply Trump had something to do with the bombing. This is why I said I did not know if you were trying to be provocative. ] (]) 19:13, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::There's nothing provocative about saying Trump attended a fundraiser that he did attend. You're apparently criticizing me for other stuff in the footnoted source that I ''removed'' from the text of the article. I have never been criticized at Misplaced Pages for including stuff when I instead actually removed it from the text of the article. The stuff I removed, by the way, explains that Trump attended the fundraiser before he could possibly have known about a bombing by the beneficiaries of the fundraiser, so I'm not even convinced that the stuff I removed was in any way a BLP violation.] (]) 19:20, 3 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == FYI == | |||
| I have filed a DRN case at https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Donald_Trump - please add your summary of the dispute there. Thanks! ] (]) 00:32, 20 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in. == | |||
| ] | |||
| This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the ] regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. | |||
| Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!<!--Template:DRN-notice--> --] (]) 00:36, 20 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Please correct the formatting at Trumptalk == | |||
| I failed. ]] 20:41, 23 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :I wouldn't know what to do except delete the three colons.] (]) 20:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::So, Doctor you are recommending a colonectomy? Have at it !!! ]] 23:34, 23 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| Hey, I moved this back pending a discussion; this was agreed on (sort of) at the talk page. Do note that the page title will be changed per convention to "Executive Order #####" tomorrow or whenever the Federal Register officially publishes it. ] <sup>]] ]]</sup> 22:17, 29 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :I commented at your talk page.] (]) 22:19, 29 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Barnstar == | |||
| {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" | |||
| |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ] | |||
| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Movie Geek barnstar''' | |||
| |- | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | For citing "authentic internet gibberish" in a way that would be instantly recognized by fans of '']''. (Sorry about the picture; couldn't find one of the real Gabby Johnson.) ] (]) 18:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| |} | |||
| :😍Thanks ]. I must admit, however, that I walk in illustrious footsteps, namely those of ], who has used this same expression at Misplaced Pages. But it's too late for you take back the barnstar, as I'm sure Bugs would agree!] (]) 19:14, 30 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Good quotes like that deserve to be <s>propagated</s> stolen. I'll probably use it myself. Without attribution, of course. --] (]) 19:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Of course. Thanks again.] (]) 19:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == 1RR == | |||
| Re . I'm sorry I don't see a "consensus of several editors" for these changes (which actually reflect original wording), all I see is you and G1729 completely disregarding the 1RR active on this page to edit war your preferred warning into the article. G1729 has already been warned about 1RR. You just recently came off a topic ban in this topic area. Please observe the restrictions imposed by discretionary sanctions and self-revert. You're welcome to start a separate section on talk or even file an RfC.] (]) 17:27, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Yeah, I hadn't noticed that 1RR was slapped on this article on January 29. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages does not have any corresponding limits on propagandistic edits like yours. The cited sources very obviously attribute the "religious test" characterization to "commentators" so putting that commentary into wikivoice is pretty egregious on your part. Not surprising though. Get sources for your edits, please.] (]) 17:40, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == A toast to you! == | |||
| {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ] | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Beer is the world's most widely consumed and probably oldest alcoholic beverage. It is the third most popular drink after water and tea. Just sayin'. - ] (]) 23:52, 18 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
| |} | |||
| Thanks!] (]) 12:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ==Disambiguation link notification for March 10== | |||
| Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Misplaced Pages appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited ], you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ] ( | ). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. <small>Read the ]{{*}} Join us at the ].</small> | |||
| It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 10:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ==Disambiguation link notification for March 17== | |||
| Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Misplaced Pages appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited ], you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ] ( | ). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. <small>Read the ]{{*}} Join us at the ].</small> | |||
| It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 10:11, 17 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == ANI notice == | |||
| Apparently SW3 5DL thinks ANI notices are not required if they refer to you without using your username. See ]. ―] ] 16:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks.] (]) 16:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{reply|Mandruss}} ANI notices were not required for Anything or you since the ANI thread does ask for blocks, it asks only for an admin to reopen an RfC that had a disruptive close. ] (]) 15:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::{{ping|SW3 5DL}} The notice at the top of ] reads: "When you start a discussion about an editor, you must notify them on their user talk page." It does <u>not</u> read: "When you start a discussion requesting a block of an editor, you must notify them on their user talk page." If there is something in policy to that effect, please point it out and I'll see about getting the notice updated to reflect it. If not, you're just incorrect. ―] ] 15:54, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == 1RR violation == | |||
| Greetings Anythingyouwant! With these edits you technically violated the one-revert-per-day provision in effect at ]: | |||
| * {{diff||771979515||16:34, 24 March 2017}} | |||
| * {{diff||772075420||05:10, 25 March 2017}} | |||
| * {{diff||772171861||19:00, 25 March 2017 }} | |||
| Please self-revert the last edit to get back on track. Thanks! — ] <sup>]</sup> 05:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :The first diff did not involve me. I have reverted the second per your request, though I did not revert "Sr." more than once. Cheers pal.] (]) 06:08, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sorry, I referred to the wrong edit for the first case, here is yours: {{diff||771980445||}}. Besides, I asked you to undo the last diff, not the second one. The addition of "Sr." goes against established consensus. — ] <sup>]</sup> 06:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Why the hell did you list my "Sr." edit as the second diff in your 1RR accusation above, if you think that edit of mine was covered by the list of consensuses that are exempt from 1RR? You are really pushing the envelope here, ].] (]) 06:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Please don't take my remarks as aggressive; I said you "technically" violated the rule, I'm sure you acted in good faith, which is why I'm notifying you here instead of a drama board. Now, will you please redo your second revert which was consensual and undo the third one which wasn't? — ] <sup>]</sup> 06:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Of course I'm not going to revert my edit at 19:00 on 25 March, because you have not shown that any edit of mine within the preceding 24 hours was a revert within the meaning of the 1RR rule. Have you? What kind of bullshit is this?] (]) 06:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Fine, let it be. I removed "Sr" again. Happy Sunday,— ] <sup>]</sup> 07:03, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{od}}{{small|Why wasn't I notified of this dispute? You resolved it in just an hour and I can't watch these pages constantly. Also you were WAY too friendly here, with only two feeble attempts to escalate this (hell, bullshit). Please try harder next time. ―] ] 07:22, 26 March 2017 (UTC)}} | |||
| :{{re|Mandruss}} I don't see that you were involved in the contested edits, hence I saw no need to notify you or anyone else than Anythingyouwant. I'm friendly, yes, you probably noticed as much over the last year of discussions. — ] <sup>]</sup> 07:33, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :{{ec}} Or maybe you were saying Anythingyouwant was being too friendly towards me? Well, friendly or not, we did resolve the dispute within an hour, as you noted, so I suppose that's the spirit of Misplaced Pages… — ] <sup>]</sup> 07:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sorry, thought you'd recognize satire when you saw it, so I omitted the smiley. ―] ] 07:37, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::And I thought you were talking to me instead of Any. I should have known better, it's his talk page not mine. {{wink}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 07:41, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| All is well, no worries. I think maybe this recent fiasco in the House of Representatives sent out bad vibes, but the good vibrations shall return. Best wishes to JFG and Mandruss.] (]) 07:43, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ==Disambiguation link notification for March 26== | |||
| Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Misplaced Pages appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited ], you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ] ( | ). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. <small>Read the ]{{*}} Join us at the ].</small> | |||
| It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 10:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == not my president == | |||
| I was not aware of this movement. Do you really think that's why editors don't want the word 'current' in the article? ] (]) 16:54, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Certainly not ]. However, I don't know about every editor who ends up having commented on this RFC.] (]) 16:58, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks for the AGF! ―] ] 17:00, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| {{reply|Anythingyouwant}} And I never once suggested he was. Let me rephrase this, Why do you believe this involves "not my president?" I've never seen this on any of the Trump pages I've edited, including the BLP. ] (]) 17:10, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::It may well be coincidence, but by omitting from the hatnote and lead that he is the president, we (perhaps inadvertently) cater to that movement, even if we mention lower in the article or in the infobox that he's the president. Whether it's entirely coincidental will probably become more evident as the RFC rolls along.] (]) 17:23, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::That still makes no sense to me to make such a leap in thinking. I've never seen anyone even remotely make such a suggestion in any discussion on Donald Trump talk. Least of all, the editor you apparently leapt to your mind above. ] (]) 17:56, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::] (]) 18:06, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == FYI == | |||
| You seem to be disrupting your own RfC . It would be better to use the 'reply' feature in the discussion section to direct a comment to a particular editor. But in any event, it really isn't good form to challenge every editors comment. You started an RfC, editors are now giving you their opinions. They didn't come there for an argument with you. They came there in good faith to answer your RfC. Just a suggestion. ] (]) 17:14, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Good suggestion, thanks.] (]) 17:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Precious three years! == | |||
| {{User QAIbox | |||
| | title = Precious | |||
| | image = Cornflower blue Yogo sapphire.jpg | |||
| | image_upright = 0.3 | |||
| | bold = ] | |||
| }} | |||
| --] (]) 06:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks Gerda, I hope you're doing well. :-)] (]) 07:37, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
| {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" | |||
| |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ] | |||
| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Brilliant Idea Barnstar''' | |||
| |- | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | NPOV...try it you'll like it. Best wishes from your friend, ]] 17:52, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| |} | |||
| :This may be the first barnstar in the short history of Misplaced Pages awarded for (allegedly!) not being NPOV. As much as it pains me, I will have to decline this honor from an editor who seems to be engaged in ]. Cheers.] (]) 18:01, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Template-editor granted == | |||
| ] | |||
| Your account has been granted the "{{mono|templateeditor}}" user permission, allowing you to edit ] and ] that have been protected with ]. It also allows you to bypass the ], giving you the ability to create and edit ]. Before you use this user right, please read ''']''' and make sure you understand its contents. In particular, you should read the section on ] and the ]. | |||
| You can use this user right to perform maintenance, answer edit requests, and make any other simple and generally uncontroversial edits to templates, modules, and edinotices. You can also use it to enact more complex or controversial edits, '''after''' those edits are first made to a test sandbox, and their technical reliability as well as their ] among other informed editors has been established. If you are willing to process ] on templates and modules, keep in mind that you are taking responsibility to ensure the edits have consensus and are technically sound. | |||
| This user right gives you access to some of Misplaced Pages's most important templates and modules; it is critical that you edit them wisely and that you only make edits that are backed up by consensus. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to ]. | |||
| If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. | |||
| ;Useful links | |||
| * <span class="plainlinks"></span> | |||
| * ] – outstanding template-protected edit requests (bot-generated) | |||
| * ] | |||
| Happy template editing! <!-- Template:Template editor granted --> <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— ] // ] // ] // </small> 19:32, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :Now please do ensure that you only use it ''when absolutely necessary'' (and according to the rules inside the editonotice at the /consensus page), and if you ever run into an area where a TE is needed (outside of just the Trump-space) please ensure you are editing with solid consensus/policy behind you. I trust we will have no issues, so I've given you this right. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— ] // ] // ] // </small> 19:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks Coffee. I intend to use it very sparingly, if at all.] (]) 19:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::Welcome! And I second Coffee's remarks: be very cautious with these template edits, either when operating on widely-used templates or on emotionally controversial subjects. {{p}} — ] <sup>]</sup> 21:06, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Like I said, very sparingly, if at all. Cheers.] (]) 21:10, 7 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Signature spacing == | |||
| Greetings Anythingyouwant! Just a quick ping to suggest that you add an empty space in front of your signature file. It often looks weird when sticking to the prior sentence like "Here's what I had to say.Anythingyouwant" — ] <sup>]</sup> 22:09, 12 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll look into it, thanks.] (]) 23:36, 12 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::Done.] (]) 02:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| <s>If you make a comment like again, I will <s>block</s>report you. You should know better than that.—] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 11:12, 15 April 2017 (UTC)</s> | |||
| :My apologies. I misread your comment. Sorry about that.—] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 11:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tpw}} {{reply|Cyberpower}} If I can just butt in- I don't think it was malicious, CP- I think AYW was quoting , and being a bit clever with the ]. Although I would suggest that playing with such nuances of language in such a delicate matter is probably best to be avoided, AYW- too easily isundestood! (In some languages, a double neg. ''doesn't'' cancel itself out, I believe, so it could look like you did say what SP thought you were saying- if you get my drift. Just my HO :) — ]] 11:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ::When I made the revert, I didn't pick up on the double negatives. It was after it was pointed out to me, did I realize I misread the statement and retracted my warning.—] <span style="font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 11:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::No problem. All's well that doesn't end badly. 😊] (]) 17:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == Donald Trump: A friendly word of caution == | |||
| If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review ] and submit your choices on the ''']'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>] (]) 00:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</small> | |||
| {{caution|Hi. Some editors are becoming concerned that you may have been overly assertive in your editing on ]. Please remember that BOLD is not an excuse for running roughshod over other editors or their edits. A lot of what has been in the article got there after extensive talk page discussions so making drastic changes w/o discussing first can be seen as showing a lack of respect for CONSENSUS. This article deals with one of the most controversial figures in modern politics and we all have to proceed cautiously. Your views carry no more weight than that of other editors. While your motives are not in question, your method is. Please slow down and seek consensus before making big changes on the article and maybe show a little deference to the views of other contributors. Thanks. -] (]) 01:01, 23 April 2017 (UTC)}} | |||
| :"Some editors" are editors with whom I have a current content dispute. Please keep that in mind.] (]) 01:06, 23 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| </div> | |||
| {{reply|Ad Orientem}} His motives most definitely are in question. This is an editor who is only there for disruption. I will bring you diffs of this behavior. You will see. His motivation is to keep this page roiling. Look at the number of edits he makes both on the talk and the article. Dozens of them in a manic editing spree with no regard for opinion of other editors. He goes back over editors and rearranges things, moves content, changes headings, all without a single word on the talk page prior to doing this. He makes cutting, caustic comments. He has flares of anger and obvious fails of AGF. He never modulates his behaviors after having it brought to his attention. Look at the comment he just left you. He blames others, me especially, for calling out his behavior, but it must be done. Look at the mess he made with the RfC. He subverted a gathering consensus. Then he did it again after all the drama he created had ended with your great edit. He opened another thread to get things roiling again. This is clearly ] behavior and I will keep saying it must be addressed until someone finally takes him to task for this. If he were not there, the page would not have anywhere near the 'contention' it has been claimed to have now. ] (]) 14:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| </div> | |||
| <!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Coordination/MM/01&oldid=1258243333 --> | |||
Latest revision as of 00:05, 19 November 2024
⚖️
Help with adding to Talk page
I would like to add a sentence to the Hunter Biden laptop controversy article. I see that you have made edits to the page. The page is protected, so I went to the Talk page
Talk:Hunter Biden laptop controversy
and clicked "Click here to start a new topic", then composed my suggestion. But when I click "Add topic", it just shows moving slanted lines for a second, and then gives up. I have tried this several times. What do I need to do to actually add the topic? Swan2024 (talk) 03:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I reported the glitch at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(technical)#IP_editor(s)_cannot_edit_talk_pages. I assume you’re not a registered user, but if you become one then it will likely work for you. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have a login, Swan2024, which I created several hours ago in case that was the reason I couldn't add the topic. Is that sufficient for "registered user"? Swan2024 (talk) 05:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Should work without logging in, but almost certainly will work when you’re logged in, User:Swan2024. Good luck. The likely cause of your difficulty is that you were trying to add a topic with just one or two words in the header, and/or one or two words in your comment. Misplaced Pages requires more words from users who aren’t logged in, so as to filter out spam. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have a login, Swan2024, which I created several hours ago in case that was the reason I couldn't add the topic. Is that sufficient for "registered user"? Swan2024 (talk) 05:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I reported the glitch at Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(technical)#IP_editor(s)_cannot_edit_talk_pages. I assume you’re not a registered user, but if you become one then it will likely work for you. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Regarding Springfield, Ohio, cat-eating hoax
First, thank you for restoring the text I mistakenly removed. I have restored directly from Carguychris' edit. If you believe your version is better, than just revert my last two edits.
Regarding the neo-Nazi debate, here is my perspective. You made a claim there are not reliable sources, which was refuted. You made a claim that it was the media that amplified the hoax, which has not been proven outside unreliable sources like Fox News. When you provide your list of sources, then we can see your perspective and discuss. Until then, it looks like the three of us don't agree with your perspective. Alternatively, if you want to suggest alternative wording, then go ahead and do so. I already made one such change when you didn't agree with the word 'they' and am willing to work together on wording. I just am opposed to the removal of details about what happened. --Super Goku V (talk) 04:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- To explain why I didn't get your other ping and seemed to be ignoring your message, you put your signature on a newline. As noted at Template:Reply to, "he edit must be signed by adding
~~~~to the end of the message." The system acted as if you had made two messages and ignored the ping to me in the first message. Hope that clears things up a bit. --Super Goku V (talk) 05:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC) - User:Super Goku V, thanks for visiting my user talk. Regarding nazis, please see WP:OPEN, which says, “The first paragraph should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view, but without being too specific.” You say above that you’re “opposed to the removal of details about what happened.” But I don’t object to putting nazi details in the article body, or even later in the lead if people feel strongly about it. Just not in the opening paragraph. As far as I know, nazis had no effect on what happened in Springfield, nor any effect on what GOP politicians did. What a horror show Misplaced Pages’s articles on political events would become if they all began with commentary from the nazis on the left, and the Marxists on the right. Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sources say that neo-Nazi groups were spreading the message along with far-right groups. Given the prominence in reliable sources, we are following a Neutral point of view by mentioning it in the lede. As for the order of stuff, the only thing I could see that has a shot would be splitting off everything after the first sentence of the first paragraph into a new second paragraph and moving all of the old second paragraph into the first paragraph following the first sentence.
Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.
The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered, then spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups. These claims were amplified by prominent figures in the American right, most notably Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.
The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.- I don't know if it could be considered an improvement or not as it waits until the second paragraph to explain what is debunked, though it does put more emphasis that the claims are false. Other than that, I don't have much of a suggestion outside of this other one:
Starting in September 2024, baseless claims and rumors spread online that Haitian immigrants were stealing pets in Springfield, Ohio, and eating them. The claims began with a local Facebook group post sharing a neighbor's story that her daughter's friend's cat had been butchered and rose to national prominence by Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance whose constituency includes Springfield, followed then by his running mate Donald Trump, along with allies such as Laura Loomer, and X owner Elon Musk. The person whose Facebook story started the controversy later admitted she never spoke to the cat owner and admitted the story lacked credibility.
Springfield and county law enforcement said that no credible reports or evidence support the claims, and the city's mayor, the city manager, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine have all denounced them. The claims were widely described as racist and having been spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups in the area. Fact-checking website Snopes called the claims unfounded, while others characterized them as a hoax or a lie.
The pet-eating claims spread amid existing racial tensions in Springfield, where recent legal Haitian immigration reversed population decline, but strained some public resources. There had been previous incidents of hostility towards the local Haitian community and unfounded local rumors of Haitians stealing waterfowl and food. After the claims spread, dozens of bomb threats prompted Springfield officials to close public buildings, including the city hall and elementary schools, and DeWine deployed state police to conduct daily sweeps of the facilities.- If either of the two work for you, then go ahead and try it. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh and I am Subscribed to this discussion, so feel free to ping or not as I will know either way. --Super Goku V (talk) 08:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I always prefer being chronological where possible, which helps people to comprehend what happened, one step at a time. That’s why I generally like the opening paragraph as it stands now: it summarizes the major developments one step at a time, in a clear manner. Except that I just think the nazi detail needs to be moved lower in the lead or removed from the lead. As I explained here at my talk page, I am not aware that any nazis affected what happened in Springfield, or affected how GOP politicians reacted to the whole thing. When nazis spread rumors, they typically do so on nazi websites and other places where nazis hang out, but AFAIK they’re not able to spread rumors into the mainstream, and the latter might be significant if it happened, but I’m not aware that it did happen. Anythingyouwant (talk) 10:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. I did reply on the talk page about what they did in Springfield. As for lowering it in the lead, try it and see if it works. --Super Goku V (talk) 20:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I always prefer being chronological where possible, which helps people to comprehend what happened, one step at a time. That’s why I generally like the opening paragraph as it stands now: it summarizes the major developments one step at a time, in a clear manner. Except that I just think the nazi detail needs to be moved lower in the lead or removed from the lead. As I explained here at my talk page, I am not aware that any nazis affected what happened in Springfield, or affected how GOP politicians reacted to the whole thing. When nazis spread rumors, they typically do so on nazi websites and other places where nazis hang out, but AFAIK they’re not able to spread rumors into the mainstream, and the latter might be significant if it happened, but I’m not aware that it did happen. Anythingyouwant (talk) 10:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to participate in a research
Hello,
The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Misplaced Pages, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this anonymous survey.
You do not have to be an Administrator to participate.
The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its Meta page and view its privacy statement .
Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns.
Kind Regards,
BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message
Hello! Voting in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)