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| == Vandalism Removal == | |||
| Please discuss the layout of ''The Signpost'' page and other general or technical issues here. Discussion about news items and stories themselves should be directed to the ''']'''. | |||
| I've just found out that an IP ] me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks ] (]) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{Ping|JPxG}} should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">]</span> (]) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| == Writer Request == | |||
| ==Contributors welcome== | |||
| If you're interested in writing about community news for The Misplaced Pages Signpost, please contact me (on my talk page or via email, however you prefer) so we can coordinate our efforts. As editor, I would at the very least need to have an idea of what topic(s) you're covering. If you use the wiki to write drafts of a news story, please do this in your user space. --] 09:29, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
| I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. ] (]) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Comments == | |||
| :Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! ] (]) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| Do you want article-specific comments on their respective talk pages, on an issue-specific talk page, or here? {{User:Brockert/sig}} 04:07, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced == | |||
| :On their talk pages is great, I do watch the articles for the week until they get archived. This page can be for discussion about the newspaper in general. --] 07:11, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC) | |||
| Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — ] ] 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Volumes? == | |||
| :@] it was announced, ]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of ] did not get it (). — ] ] 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Reply button is not working == | |||
| So far, we are at volume I issue V. How large will the volumes be, out of curiosity (OK yes, I am really bored ATM) - ] 04:24, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| *Presumably the volume will change with the year. ] 04:38, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC) | |||
| While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said | |||
| == Stories by the type == | |||
| " Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page" | |||
| ] (]) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I was just reading the ] article and thought that it might be useful (or failing that, look neat) if the stories were divided by their content under headings or a background colour scheme or both. Say one section for "Misplaced Pages style, policy and guidelines" one for "Misplaced Pages in the press" one for T.R.O.L.L. articles etc. | |||
| :{{ping|R1F4T}} - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. ]<sub>(])</sub> | |||
| Or maybe I think too much, heh. - ] 20:01, May 30, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :I think we may head that direction in the future, when there are more articles up at any given time. Then having different groupings, like the sections of a newspaper, will be more useful to guide readers to what they're most interested in. For the time being, I don't think it's that hard to glance at the page and find what you want to read. Also, waiting to take this step will give us a better idea of how to divide up the sections. --] 04:27, 31 May 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::Is there any chance of a sport section any time soon? ] 18:16, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :::Sport section? Meaning a section on articles and projects related to sports? Or dealing with what one might call WikiSports (the sort of stuff at the ])? --] 19:54, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==Question about article submission== | |||
| Can anybody just submit an article to this newspaper? Or, what's the submission process? Can one write about themself, if they use the third person? (And is good gramma 'n speeling a pre-wreck-squizit?) ] ] 11:52, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :]. ] ] 12:47, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::A better link might be ] ''Reporters: note here what items you are working on ... editing each other's work is encouraged''. In short, yes, anyone can submit an article (either simply suggest a topic or actually write the text themselves). This is a ] - it will all be "edited mercilessly", of course! -- ] ] 13:14, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == January 9, 2006? == | |||
| AAAAAH! Am I missing something? —]]] ] 02:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :It should be published shortly, if that's what you mean. Thanks! ] <small>(])</small> 03:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Should ] be deleted? Nothing links to it. ] | ] 16:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :It's for those who are using the RSS feeds, I presume. ] <small>]</small> 20:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Yeah; I occasionally create pages like that specifically for RSS readers when appropriate. ] ] 22:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Wikisource News == | |||
| Wikisource very recently created ], the local variant of the Misplaced Pages Signpost. Many of the stories, such as ], are likely to apply equally well to both wikis. I'd like to occasionally use content from the Signpost in WN stories, with appropriate credit. Signpost editors are free to use WN content, though the relationship would no doubt favour the more undermanned Wikisource. Would do you think? // ] (<sub>''''</sub> / <sup>'']''</sup>) 06:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I think collaboration would be good; also note ], a news source more focused on meta and issues surrounded all Wikimedia projects, not a specific language or project. Thanks! ] <small>(])</small> 00:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Fine with me, certainly. You're certainly welcome to use any of our articles under the terms of the GFDL. I'd appreciate a note on this page when you borrow content. ] (]) 03:04, 6 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: A section from ], "Interesting mentions", prompted the Wikisource News story "]". Thanks. :) // ] (<sub>''''</sub> / <sup>'']''</sup>) 12:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: You might want to mention this new development at ]. User:Ceyockey (<small>'']''</small>) 00:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Nah, I don't think it's necessary there. ] (]) 23:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Trouble with RSS feed == | |||
| The following email was sent to Jimbo Wales and forwarded to the Misplaced Pages information team. I think it would be more likely to be addressed on this page. | |||
| <div style="padding:1em; border:1px dashed #2f6fab; text-align:left; color:#000; background-color:#f9f9f9;"> | |||
| Subject: WikiNews RSS feed<br /> | |||
| Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:47:51 +0100<br /> | |||
| From: <br /> | |||
| To: jwales@wikia.com<br /> | |||
| Hi!<br /> | |||
| I tried to get the RSS feed:<br /> | |||
| http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dapete/wikinews-rss/rss-de.php<br /> | |||
| it looks like "utf8" is not a valid encoding name<br /> | |||
| i guess it has to be utf-8. | |||
| I am using RSSOwl 1.2 : http://www.rssowl.org/ | |||
| bye</div> | |||
| // ] (<sub>''''</sub> / <sup>'']''</sup>) 18:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :That's the ] feed, not the Signpost feed. ] <small>]</small> 21:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Will the Signpost be back this week?== | |||
| After skipping last week? ] 00:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Um, see ] for Volume 2, Issue 10, dated ] ... -- ] ] 01:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: I think this may have been regarding the RSS feed, which hasn't been updated in a while. It's something that seems to get easily forgotten. I apologize. ] (]) 07:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: And I've had trouble with SSHing to the server recently. Probably human error on my part; I'll see what I can do. ] (]) 19:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC) | |||
| The last issue available through RSS is vol 2 issue 9. Is there some kind of problem? I hate to complain, since this is all a volunteer effort, but the RSS feed would seem to be useless at this point. --]] 05:09, 2 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : Right now my laptop, which had all my stuff for connecting to the server, is basically dead. I should get my new laptop Tuesday or Wednesday; then, I'll work on getting the RSS feed back up. My apologies on this. ] (]) 00:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Oh, that's crummy news! I hate it when that happens :-( Anyway, your efforts are greatly appreciated. I'm wondering, why isn't this automated? I was very surprised to hear that a human was responsible for updating the feed. --]] 03:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: What's the process for sending out the RSS feed? ]] 19:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == RSS feed IS BROKEN == | |||
| I just tried adding it to Firefox and found it had very little. I checked things out, look at the URL myself and...<br/> | |||
| http://tools.wikimedia.de/~ral315/signpost.rss has not updated itself since '''February''', despite it stating "This feed will update itself weekly". | |||
| The RSS feed is broken, does anyone have the technical knowledge to fix it or set up a new, working one? --] 13:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :A RSS to HTML parser, or manual? ]] 16:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::See ]; we've had issues with the RSS feed for a while now. Thanks! ] <small>(])</small> 21:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Shouldn't this be handled by the Misplaced Pages servers and not rely on individuals having to update it manually on laptops? That would be a much better way of running things. I'm surprised such a large organization can find it so hard to set up something as simple as a working RSS feed. --] 22:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Erm... Misplaced Pages Signpost is run by Wikipedians, not the Wikimedia Foundation. — <span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;">]</span><sup style="font-family:serif;">(])</sup> 23:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Well they could at least help us. I mean, they provide the server for Misplaced Pages. --] 23:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::By "they" you are referring to one of the three full-time Foundation employees. One is responsible for dealing with complaints and legal threats from the irate public and the other two upgrade software and try to keep the site running on a budget that's laughable considering Misplaced Pages's prominence. I consider all these activities significantly more important than an RSS feed of the newsletter of one of the project editions that most readers appear to access through the template anyway. So, you see, there is no "large organization" - just servers, a few people to keep the essentials going and a lot of people who volunteer their time, skills and occasionally server bandwidth. You have posted notification that you cannot access the RSS to a large number of prominent pages. The combined tone is, to me, one of insistence that it be fixed, which may be counterproductive considering that you are in effect asking for someone with the relevant skills to volunteer their time. - ]] 00:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'll see if I can do something. You might or might not hear something from me about this. ] 14:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::'''''' Well, sort of... I am quite busy now, so I don't have time to finish all, but there need to be some things done. I neeed to find a server so it can autoupdate, and have the bot account approved. Also there are some things that need to be updated in the feed. But so far :) ] 16:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| The feed has not been updated recently. Does anybody object to completely removing the button from the page until the feed is restored? It is not currently useful, with or without the 'broken' notice. -]] 15:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I've commented it out for the time being. Sorry, as most of us operate more using wikis and watchlists, we're not that heavily focused on RSS. If somebody wants to take the time to bring this back up, it looks like that would certainly be welcome, though. --] 17:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Working on this. Hopefully by this issue. ] (]) 05:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I'm just waiting on a developer on the toolserver to process my new key, so I can FTP to the server again. At that point, the RSS feed will be updated. ] (]) 02:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: For the time being, I have some sort of backup RSS :) ] 08:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Unwikified headlines == | |||
| Is there any particular reason why the headlines have not been wikified? ]<sup>]</sup> 22:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :They have been wikified. What you did was to change the capitalization style, which does not always follow the same conventions as article titles in the encyclopedia. --] 05:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Where is your documentation of this? Some of the capitalization, e.g., "Of," doesn't even follow most standard styles in the not-wiki world. Please cite your rationale and support in guidelines or wherever you have it. ]<sup>]</sup> 11:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Why would we need documentation? It has been ever thus. | |||
| :::*Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages is MANIA | |||
| :::*Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News is BRION | |||
| :::*The Report On Lengthy Litigation is TROLL. | |||
| :::I'm not entirely sure why News ("in the News") or Notes ("...and Notes:...") are capitalised, though. <s>But if you are going to change the capitalisation, you could at least ensure that redirects are in place so you don't create redlinks.</s> -- ] ] 11:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I did look at the links. Everything I changed was a "pipe" that actually ''changed the capitalization of the source page'' in some cases. Acronyms typically refer to proper nouns. These hardly seems to qualify. Here's a citation for removing the acronym caps: ]. For such a high-profile page, I would think you would not resist citing your justification for ignoring common usage. ]<sup>]</sup> 11:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Sorry - mea culpa - you only changed the name of the link after the pipe. I should not have my original reply :x) | |||
| ::::::But, as ] says, your citation is part of the manual of style, which is of course just a guide to making articles more consistent. Even it is is applicable to the Misplaced Pages namespace (for the same of consistency), it is not holy writ. As I said, the capitalisation on ] is just the way it has always been done; it may be slightly inconsistent with usual practice, but that is deliberate. -- ] ] 13:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::You have linked the Manual of Style (]). The MOS states in the box at the top "Misplaced Pages articles should heed these rules." The Signpost is not an article. It is a newsletter in the project namespace. Please provide the link for acronym use for internal volunteer-written newsletters of the Wikimedia projects. Thanks! - ]] 12:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Apparently, you all have your own idiosyncratic and inconsistently applied "the way it's always been done" manual of style for "internal volunteer-written newsletters of the Wikimedia projects." It certainly reflects well on your project. Keep up the good work. ]<sup>]</sup> 13:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::It's common usage to capitalize the letters that make up the initialism (and not the ones that don't) when spelling out an initialism. That's exactly what the page does. Anyway, this minor issue doesn't require a "manual of style", and it certainly doesn't require hostility and sarcasm. ] / ] 22:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'm afraid your citation to the Manual of Style misunderstands what that section is referring to. It's talking about a situation where both the acronym and the full phrase that is the source of the acronym are provided, such as ''MOS (Manual of Style)''. In the ''Signpost'''s headlines, only the full text is given, not the acronym, so we capitalize the letters to emphasize the fact that they create an acronym. --] 17:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Interactive M.A.N.I.A. == | |||
| This week's dose of M.A.N.I.A. is currently interactive. Is there any reason not to do this? I turned off the <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> and asked readers to contribute; since the point of the column is to highlight conversations suggested for Wikimania 2006, and note that the list is dynamic and open to change. Next week will be back to normal, for better or for worse. ]] 03:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : Not a problem for me. ] (]) 19:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == in-jokes == | |||
| I don't find the vaguely humorous but very contrived acronyms (such as T.R.O.L.L.) on the contents page to be particularly helpful. In the interest of wider accessibility, it would be better to scrap the in-jokes and rename the titles to the names of the pages to which they point (such as Arbitration Report). This is particularly because the contents list, as it appears in ], is one click away from the main page, so ought to be more outsider-friendly. Thanks. ] 21:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :There's been some ] on this. Thanks! ] <small>(])</small> 00:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Maybe there was, but I have to say that I agree with Arbitrary username. It isn't particularly funny and it looks unprofessional. ] 02:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Yes, the acronyms are very contrived. But that's what makes it fun. I'm not personally trying to make this the ] or ]. It's a community in-joke that's been around for nearly a year and a half, and one that most people gloss over without recognizing its significance. I guess I don't see how someone recognizing an acronym as "TROLL" (if they did) could be unfriendly. ] (]) 06:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::To clarify, I used "outsider-friendly" in the context of accessibility. I don't of course think the acronyms are "unfriendly" in the sense of hostile, but they are less helpful than more descriptive titles would be. ] 16:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I think that the fact they've been around for a year and a half could also be interpreted to mean that the joke is getting kind of stale, although I'm certainly flattered by having everyone imitate my original model. What I'm inclined to suggest is that we continue the acronyms through this year's Wikimania, so as not to disrupt their use for that particular series, and then gracefully retire them. I'm sure we can still find ways to inject a little fun into the ''Signpost''. --] 16:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| T.R.O.L.L. doesn't seem notably unprofessional when taken in the context of WP's different nature from conservative publications like the Wall Street Journal. There seems to be utility in it's humourous and light-hearted approach to an often heated area, and it is consistent with the general views of WP readers and editors.--] 17:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I agree with ] and ] that the acronyms are contrived and unprofessional. Also, I was not aware at first that they were acronyms, and I changed the capitalization only to be reverted and told that they were acronyms. Well, in that case, they should be explicitly shown as such, and I made this change instead , only to be reverted again. I don't understand the reasoning behind this. If editors support the use of the acronyms, then why try to hide them, making the capitalization look extremely odd and unprofessional to viewers of the Signpost who are not aware of the acronyms? And if my change was reverted because explicitly noting the acronyms makes the Signpost look unprofessional, then does that not raise questions about whether we should be using the acronyms at all in the first place? —] (]) 11:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I would be interested to know why you would think that an internal newsletter for the enjoyment and enlightenment of contributors to Misplaced Pages should need to look "professional". This is not the sort of road down which we want to start travelling, because the next thing will be edit-wars between groups of people with their own ideas about what constitutes "professional". This is not the place for enforcing strict nomenclature, it's supposed to be fun and informative. HTH HAND —] | ] 13:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ditto Phil. I don't see what's wrong with in-jokes, considering this is a publication for in-house consumption. It's like suggesting the company newsletter shouldn't make references to internal terminology that an outsider wouldn't get. (Of course, this newsletter is unabashedly public, but nevertheless, its first audience is the editors of Misplaced Pages.) If we want to change the acronyms, then we should find a better reason to (e.g., better titles?) than just them being in-jokes or self-references. ] | ] 13:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Agree. Keep the titles they are fine. The signpost is not press releases nor is it wikinews, so in-jokes are prefectly fine. I remeber getting a chuckle when I figured out the title was B.R.I.O.N and Brion Vibber is one of the main developers. -] 14:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::If it's supposed to be fun and informative, how about coming up with something that is either a) fun or b) informative? These are just irritating. ] 06:41, 13 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I like the Signpost a lot. It's generally well-written, and I greatly appreciate the work of those who contribute to it. It plays a invaluable role in keeping the most-involved Misplaced Pages editors well-informed, but it is more than that: it is also a newspaper for the larger Misplaced Pages community of casual editors, and is increasingly extending beyond that, to the point that occasional viewers of Misplaced Pages read over it and outside bloggers and media/news agencies use it as a reference and a source of information. As such, I want it to be as good as possible. Of course it should look professional! Otherwise, let's just throw good grammar and spelling out the window as well. —] (]) 18:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == In light of other comments . . . == | |||
| I just wanted to drop you guys a note and say that, generally, I think you all do a very good job with this thing. People tend to focus on the problems with this free, non-paying, Misplaced Pages newsletter instead of on the interesting stories that are put out weekly by this free, non-paying, Misplaced Pages newsletter. Anyway, that's it, keep up the good work :) - <font color="#013220">]</font>·''<font color="#465945" size="1">]</font>'' 13:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Laudatio == | |||
| *1: You do a great job! | |||
| *2: Thanks for mentioning the two logo contests I initiated, I hope we'll get more input soon now. =] | |||
| :—]<font color="green">]</font>] ] 06:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *I'd like to add my praise. TWS is a ''really good idea.'' - ] 16:21, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Strong support''' Misplaced Pages Signpost is an excellent way to keep the community informed! --] 18:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''100% agree''' - fantastic job, signposters :-) Required reading for myself every Tuesday, I very much look forward to it! ] 14:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Something to do == | |||
| I'll cover something or do something. Just leave a message on my talk page. ]]]] ] 00:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == 100 x 1000 == | |||
| This week's ], um, notes: | |||
| :''The most recent Misplaced Pages to reach 1,000 articles was the Misplaced Pages in Northern Sami.'' | |||
| Unfortunately, this isn't true. The ] reached 1,000 articles ] (and a week before the date on the article). And by my reckoning, Northern Sami was only the 99th Misplaced Pages to reach 1,000. This is supported by the tables at ] (which I help maintain) and ] (which I mostly don't). <small>(Note that the ] just broke 1,000... ''and'' 2,000 — it actually shot up from 150 to 3,500 articles in one day!)</small> - ] <small>(])</small> 02:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Milestones == | |||
| This section has gotten a bit large in the last months, so it would be kind of nice to break it up a bit. How about into article milestones, user milestones, etc? ] ] 23:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :On the matter of article milestones, and since I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, we're going to hit one and a quarter million articles in the next day or so... ] | ] | 11:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == HRE not covered == | |||
| I was expecting to read the executive summary of the ] death scandal, which was probably a major event in the world of English and Serbian Misplaced Pages this week. -] <sup>] </sup> 04:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :As usual, lack of coverage basically indicates that we could use more people helping out and writing stories. In this case, I'm guessing nobody who works on the ''Signpost'' can read Serbian, so that kind of inhibits us a bit. It also seems to be a particularly challenging incident in terms of sorting out what real facts can be reported. And given the appearances, it may be the sort of thing that responsible journalism would avoid covering unnecessarily, so as not to reward manipulative conduct with additional publicity. --] 05:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I can certainly appreciate that this is difficult to report on, because it's difficult to separate facts from rumors. But given the massive response (mostly here on en:, in English), culminating in an OFFICE action by Danny, I thought a mention was obligatory. Of course this is a wiki, so your response is a good one; if I think it should be there, then I should write it. -] <sup>] </sup> 07:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I have no idea what this is about, and HRE's talk pages don't help very much - did the user (or an imposter) claim that they were dead? -- ] ] 18:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Dont waste your time its not very interesting. I don't belive it should even be covered. Here's a summary (from what I understand): Person A posted info that person B was dead. Person B happened to be in the middle of a request for admin. Much confusion ensued, person B showed back up and claimed that his "cousin" was the one who said he was dead. High ranking wikiperson C blocked B and asked him to verify his identity, person B has not done so and his writing style has changed, so it is still belived that person B had their account stolen by the person A. -] 18:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: And then person B oppened an account D and claims that his account B was stolen and that he had nothing to do with that. ;-) --] 20:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| He's back as ]. Apparently his account had been hijacked. -] <sup>] </sup> 10:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| ] was amendment today, discussion can be found at ]. - ] 15:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Problem yet again with RSS feed == | |||
| I posted a version of this to ], but he hasn't responded yet, nor fixed the problem... | |||
| My RSS reader (Thunderbird) has been refusing to give me the ] for the last couple of weeks (Vol. 2, Issues 27 and 28), complaining that it's "not a valid RSS feed". I think the problem is , which is: | |||
| <pre><nowiki>h<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?></nowiki></pre> | |||
| I guess Thunderbird doesn't like that "h" as the first character. I can't believe I'm the first one to notice this. Am I wrong about the "h" being a problem?? - ] <small>(])</small> 01:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : It is a problem, I'm sure. I'll fix it later tonight after Michael publishes, but there's no reason to fix it right before an issue comes out. ] (]) 20:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: . - ] <small>(])</small> 04:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Thank you, ], for fixing the feed. - ] <small>(])</small> 04:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Yes - thx !!! | |||
| :::: Apologies for the delay; I was on vacation and was unable to connect to the internet for a little while. I'm currently working on a way to streamline the updating of everything, including the RSS feed. In time, Michael and others will have the ability to directly change the RSS feed; again, that's still in progress. ] (]) 02:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Arbitration report formatting.== | |||
| Numbered lists (#) instead of ] (*), and less repitition and clearly indicating what pages link to? | |||
| #] involving user ] on Islam-related talk pages. | |||
| #] involving editors and administrators on ] (formerly at ]) being repeatadly moved during a poll about the article's naming. | |||
| instead of | |||
| * ''']:''' A case involving the actions of ]. The case involves the actions of His excellency on Islam-related talk pages. | |||
| * ''']:''' A case involving the actions of editors and administrators on ] (formerly at ]). The article was the site of a move war during a poll to determine the article's naming. | |||
| -- ], 2006-07-18]16:32z | |||
| : The reason I don't, and won't use numbered lists is because there's no rhyme or reason to the numbering. What makes case #6 come before case #5? The answer is nothing; they're ordered as shown on the ArbCom page, where the ordering is newest cases first. But that doesn't mean anything, and would confuse someone looking at next week's reports, trying to find case #6, which is now case #8. | |||
| : As far as the page links, I personally like the way it's done now, because it uses the case name (something that isn't always present in the write-up, and is important for keeping the report similar to the ArbCom page). Also, it makes the page longer, but I like a longer write-up because it's easier to read as compared to one-sentence statements. That's just my opinion; I don't know if there's a better way to handle that. ] (]) 20:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I now understand the lack of numbering, but I still don't like "''']:''' A case involving the actions of ]. The case involves the actions of His excellency on Islam-related talk pages.". Which user is it again? | |||
| ::How about "Arbitration report" to replace " Lengthy Litigation"? -- ], 2006-07-25]12:48z | |||
| :::It simply uses the subpage's name, whatever it might (for clarity, I'd say), which is usually how the entire arbitration case is also named, even though it might end up taking actions against another user than the one named. ] 17:11, 25 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Single page view for archives possible? == | |||
| It's convenient and enjoyable for me to read/skim through all articles for an issue on the single-page view, rather than clicking back and forth for each headline. I'd like to have that option for the archived issues as well. Presently the dates for each issue go only to the day and year articles. Does anyone mind if this is an option, and how can this be accomplished? ] 20:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'd really enjoy a single-page subscription option. Currently, I just keep ] on my watchlist, and then click-through when they're published. ] <small>]</small> 22:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Just look at the ] page every week. ] (]) 04:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : To TransUtopian: I'll look at doing it. ] (]) 04:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks Ral315! ] 23:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Where's B.R.I.O.N.? == | |||
| There hasn't been a B.R.I.O.N. for two issues now… I miss it… ] ] ] ] 14:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : Ditto. -] 16:57, 3 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| On this topic, I'm working on it, but ], who used to give me write-ups on software changes, left last month, so it's tough to do. ] (]) 18:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Have you tried diffing the every week? If you download a ] client, you should be able to do that, and since every nontrivial change is supposed to be added to the release notes, you should get a reasonable list of things changed. —] (] • ]) 22:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Anyone try emailing him for how he assembled it? -] 01:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| There's a *LOT* of information floating around from the hacking days. ] 18:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Maybe you can ask ], or ] if they will give you any software info. <font color="purple">]</font><font color="green">]</font><font color="red">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><font color="mediumseagreen">]</font> 22:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Seems you don't need an SVN client after all. 's a link to changes made to the release notes since July 17. Is that useful? —] (] • ]) 04:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: To some extent. The only thing is it's not weekly. Someone bugged JeLuF about this a day or two ago; if nothing happens, I'll poke Brion or Tim. ] (]) 05:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: You can make it weekly. Just go (takes a long time to load), find the version prior to the one you want the earliest changes from (namely, the latest change that was included in the previous BRION), click "select for diffs" next to it, wait a while for the page to reload, find the top revision, and click "diff to selected #####". —] (] • ]) 19:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Signature disambig? == | |||
| *] comes here, obviously. ;) Can an {{tl|Otheruses4}} be added here to include a link to ] to help people find their way to that page, a la "sign (verb) your comment"? — ] | ] 15:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| **I think so, seems very much in the Wiki spirit. But I fancy there are many who would disagree, since it will break the pretty formatting. I wonder if the template could be added to the ''bottom'' of the page? -- ] 16:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *** I'd like it to be displayed at the top; I think a few times I have accidentally directed people here as opposed to WP:SIG. Whoops. But if it breaks the formatting, then I ''suppose'' we could have it at the bottom. Eh, I could go either way. ] <small>]</small> 16:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ***It doesn't break it and it's a good idea, so I've added it. -] - ] 16:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| **** I don't like the look of it now, but I'd be open to a different way of displaying it. ] (]) 18:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| **So far the disambig at the bottom seems the best option. Still noticable, but not disruptive of the formatting. — ] | ] 13:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Latest Audio link == | |||
| I have recorded an of the Signpost for the still in alpha development, and I am curious as to why the link was removed (edit: nm -- just now saw header and contacted Ral315). I can understand if people might think of a better position for the link, but I think it made sense placed between the RSS feed and single-page version as an alternative means of receiving the Signpost. I intend to update the audio feed weekly to reflect the Signpost's latest content. I have also done work for ], and I was hoping that even while Wikicast is still in development, people can still benefit from an audio version of the Signpost as a standalone offering. --] 20:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : I like the idea, but if we use it, we should use something like the audio icon, because there are a lot of links already. On another note, I originally placed that note because the way I'm trying to get Ralbot going, I'll revert any changes accidentally I update. Please don't revert for the sake of reverting. ] (]) 05:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == RSS MIA YA == | |||
| Not to sound like a broken record, but the is broken again. (Issue 32 was the last one that worked.) - ] <small>(])</small> 07:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : I'll investigate; I thought I successfully FTP'ed it this week. ] (]) 14:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Uploading it somehow failed, the file was there, but completely empty. In any event, it's fixed now, and sorry for all the troubles :) ] (]) 19:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: That's not . - ] <small>(])</small> 01:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Now that's really, really weird. I uploaded it again, and even checked it after uploading it to double check that the file was there. I'll investigate in the morning, but I have no idea why it wouldn't be working. ] (]) 06:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Ral315, I am still seeing issue 32 - are you uploading as Feed.rss, feed.RSS or some other capitalization? thx in adv --<font color="#06C">]</font> 18:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: I'm having trouble uploading the feed- it's being uploaded, but the content is immediately removed from the file. I'm talking to my provider. ] (]) 19:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::: Good luck --<font color="#06C">]</font> 13:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggestion: listserv reports == | |||
| I'm not sure if this would be appropriate for the Signpost or not, but I think many readers would greatly appreciate some sort of report/summary of the more significant discussions of problems and policy from the wikien-l listserv. There's definitely plenty of content for a regular slot, but it may be too personality-based for widespread consumption.--] 02:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :This should most likely go to ]. Thanks. <font color="blue">]</font> ]/] 23:14, 3 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : It's fine to post it here. The problem I've found with listserv discussions is they too often are glorified IRC banter (coming from someone who uses IRC regularly and reads listserv on a semi-regular basis). When and if they lead to things on-wiki, we cover them (and you'll note that many of our articles on major events contain a link to a relevant listserv posting). But it's hard to say what's relevant and what's just people saying "that's a great idea!" and then never implementing it. If someone can come up with a decent-looking mockup of what an article would look like, I'll consider the issue, but it just seems to hard to decipher the content. ] (]) 01:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Next issue == | |||
| Is everything OK with the Signpost? When is the next issue due? - ] 22:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Ral's yet to log on yet; and if he doesn't log on in the next few hours some one may have to cover him. All stuff has been proofread, and moved for publication, it's just that he's yet to log on to finish his articles and do finishing touches to aritcles. Issue should be out by 03:00, if Ral's not one. Should Ral log on before that he'll publish. Several stories that can be seen at ] have not been finished such as wikicharts etc. <font color="blue">]</font> ]/]/] 00:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Published. <font color="blue">]</font> ]/]/] 02:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::A bumper issue: well worth the wait! Great work folks. - ] 12:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Italian Wiki article == | |||
| I think it needs a bit of copyediting. How can this be done? ] 17:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks to some help, I figured out how to do it. ] 20:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Lets drop the "Good Article" mentions, eh? == | |||
| Almost every single report on foreign Wikis has mentioned that they do not have an equivelant of our or deWiki's Good Articles. It's obvious that almost everyone has some form of Featured Article standard, but almost no-one has anything like GAs. So, why continue to mention it unless they do? --] - '']'' - ] 17:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : A good point, though I think the point was partially to emphasize that the GA standard is in its infancy in that it hasn't yet been adopted by many languages. I fully expect it to take hold on many other wikis in the next 3-6 months. ] (]) 03:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::It could also illustrate that GA was never a good idea and was simply ignored by the other 200 wikis... --] - '']'' - ] 02:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Missing: Misplaced Pages in the news== | |||
| Why is this section missing from this edition? Did nobody write a new article about us this week?? Or do we need more volunteer-power for the 'post?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 02:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| : More volunteers are always helpful. This week, nobody else took it and I was unable to get it, so we published without it. We haven't had anyone really doing it on a week-to-week basis since July, so if someone wants to handle it, that's great. ] (]) 03:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I'd be happy to chip in as I consider that section to be one of the most interesting and valuable :) Any templates, tips (Google News:Misplaced Pages?) etc. for info where to look for new stories?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::: ] actually just volunteered to do that this week. Feel free to help him on that, or if you see an article worth a full story (I think the Jimbo/Chinese censorship stories in the news this week would merit a full article, for one thing), go ahead and chip in there. | |||
| ::: As to where to find stories, we've mostly used Google News and such in the past. Let me know if you have any other questions. ] (]) 19:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Also, a just a note, there wasn't many stories in the news last week; so it wasn't really worth of an article. If you remember we published 9/6 so there was only a couple days for an ITN story, and nothing really big came out. <font color="blue">]</font><font color="green">]</font><sup>]</sup> 23:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Tnx for the info. Where is the draft article being prepeared?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 04:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Some people collect articles at ], if you need a list. —] (] • ]) 21:23, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Trodel's doing this one at ]. <font color="red">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><font color="green">]</font><font color="darkyellow">]</font><font color="orange">]</font><font color="purple">]</font> <font color="oceanblue">]</font><font color="aqua">]</font> 23:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == WP:SIGN == | |||
| I find the note | |||
| :<small style="line-height:130%">''WP:SIGN redirects here. You may be looking for ].''</small> | |||
| at the bottom of the signpost to be rather distracting. I understand the need for having notes of disambiguation in articles, but having a note about a shortcut disambig (no less!) in the official Misplaced Pages newletter strikes me as rather poor taste. I would suggest removing it or embedding it as a comment (even at the risk that some people looking for ] would end up here). Comments? ] (]) 05:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Agreed; I had meant to bring this up when the note was first added, but it slipped my mind. Perhaps changing the link of "shortcut" to a new subpage of ] with a small note there? Thanks! ] <small>(])</small> 16:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::Disagree, helping people find what they're looking for is more important than teh pretty. -- ], 2006-09-23]18:40z | |||
| ::: Yeah, you are right, on principle. But that disambig note is not that useful, really. And the signpost being the main news publication on Misplaced Pages, one should consider really carefully the placement of any text in there. It is like visiting the ] page, and in a very proeminent place seeing the note: | |||
| :::: ''Typing "times" may have brought you here, for the ] jounal, see www.timesonline.co.uk. '' | |||
| ::: That statement would be distracting enough to the vast majority of visitors, that it would not be worth putting it for the very few which may get confused. ] (]) 22:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Depending on how many pages link to ], the ideal solution might be to make ] a disambiguation shortcut that gives people the option of clicking onwards to either ] or ]. To be honest, if I am directing people to the Signpost, I wouldn't think of the shortcut ] (just as I wouldn't say "have you read the Sign this week?"), rather, I would direct people to ] (hopefully that shortcut works). Maybe ] might also work. Once the disambig has been set up at ], people should hopefully, after seeing it a few times, start to use the correct shortcut themselves, and, slowly but surely, people will learn the new shortcuts (it really shouldn't take long) - though there may be a bit of an outcry at first. ] 14:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Vandalism Removal
I've just found out that an IP removed me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks Nobody (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JPxG: should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. jp×g🗯️ 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Writer Request
I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. WikiEditor5678910 (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! Carrite (talk) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced
Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — Alien 3
3 3 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Alien333 it was announced, for me at least. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of the interwiki list did not get it (random example). — Alien 3
3 3 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of the interwiki list did not get it (random example). — Alien 3
Reply button is not working
While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said " Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page" R1F4T (talk) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- @R1F4T: - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. Smallbones(smalltalk)