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| Cole was concurrently working for ] and ] (], i think). PBS fired or otherwise discontinued him after his remarks, i think on Fox, about his personal gut discomfort with some characteristically Islamic garb, i think in the context of flying. I'm not sure ''how much'' coverage there was beyond Fox and PBS, but it seems likely to be worth mention in the article, even if we don't furnish any detail, if only to clarify that the article's Juan Cole (and e.g. not the other ] another colleague asked about on this talk page) is he.<br />--]•] 08:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)<br /> | |||
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| I apologize for the misunderstanding, and will try to edit the text in line with the above (unless some more neutral person can be enlisted to do it first). Incidentally, Cole writes that he "now not interested in organized religion as a personal matter." --] | I apologize for the misunderstanding, and will try to edit the text in line with the above (unless some more neutral person can be enlisted to do it first). Incidentally, Cole writes that he "now not interested in organized religion as a personal matter." --] | ||
| Maybe we should try to keep Misplaced Pages pages about living individuals as "about" them, not "by" them. Never heard of Juan Cole before today. His page is only marginally shorter than Mark Twain's... ] (]) 19:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ==Cole responded to the Walsh/Cockburn Charges at his Blog== | |||
| I place a link to Professor Cole's response to Mr. Walsh. Since he replied it is fair to make a note of it. | |||
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| == Censorship == | |||
| This page needs to balance Cole's claim of being anti-imperialist with his support and love for Muslim colonisation of Europe in the Middle Ages. You can't just have a page of the good things people call themselves, imagine the pages for world leaders. | |||
| I was reverted twice by different users for no reason. The other time I was told that I had submitted an "unreliable source". The source was written by Cole. Logically, if that is an unreliable source, delete all 19 references from the article that were sourced from juancole.com | |||
| I have also been threatened with a block for "personal attacks" (telling someone to justify their cherry picking so they don't appear to be a hypocrite). Very frail users are getting upset. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :Please do not add your interpretation into the article. You need sources that back up your statement rather than ones that you think illustrate it. ] (]) 16:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC) | |||
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| ⚫ | Concur. Trim by 80%. ] (]) 23:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
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| Cole has said different things at different times. This is common with most of us. However Cole's position im the media and prominence equates with something more specific, learned and intentional. Being both opposed and for a major war, sometimes both within the context of a single essay isn't a criticism of the writer, i.e a criticism of Mr Cole. Identifying propaganda, and refraining from the natural inclination to assume the description is used in the perjorative sense can help readers identity content that may be harmful to them. Most of Cole's writing is to convince readers of something more than informing them of anything outside that first goal. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Cole responds to Misplaced Pages content (though indirectly)
In the "autobiography" section of his blog, Cole "vigorously disputes the baseless and misleading editorializing in his current Misplaced Pages article that his views of international politics in the twenty-first century are still shaped by his youthful Baha’i misadventure." I'm afraid this was my doing--I sincerely believed this to be true, even obvious. Instead,
- Cole was all along an American liberal, and had thought the Baha’is were on his side, which he discovered to be an error, at least with regard to the secretive and duplicitous leadership. His political and social philosophy is rooted in American traditions going back to the Transcendentalists and going forward to Martin Luther King, Michael Harrington, and other progressives, and all along has been.
I apologize for the misunderstanding, and will try to edit the text in line with the above (unless some more neutral person can be enlisted to do it first). Incidentally, Cole writes that he "now not interested in organized religion as a personal matter." --Dawud
Maybe we should try to keep Misplaced Pages pages about living individuals as "about" them, not "by" them. Never heard of Juan Cole before today. His page is only marginally shorter than Mark Twain's... Klod (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Concur. Trim by 80%. Zezen (talk) 23:16, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- And only slightly less self-congratulatory than Cuomo's pandemic book. SamuelRiv (talk) 04:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Supported US violence to destroy Saddam Hussein (Iraq)
Cole has said different things at different times. This is common with most of us. However Cole's position im the media and prominence equates with something more specific, learned and intentional. Being both opposed and for a major war, sometimes both within the context of a single essay isn't a criticism of the writer, i.e a criticism of Mr Cole. Identifying propaganda, and refraining from the natural inclination to assume the description is used in the perjorative sense can help readers identity content that may be harmful to them. Most of Cole's writing is to convince readers of something more than informing them of anything outside that first goal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.221.96.101 (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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