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Hello. Welcome to my Talk page. Feel free to leave a comment at the bottom of the page. Please sign your comments by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end. Thanks, Gwernol.


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==Umm...==
I think you're SERIOUSLY over estimating your power on this fine website. You do NOT have final say on my article's signifigance, there are several people above you, and many more in your same rank. I'm not here to please you, please get off that high horse. Just a suggestion.
<small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

==Test templates==
I mainly do recent changed patrolling and welcoming commitee work, but i had a question I was having trouble finding the answer to. If a user or IP make a blatant vandalism edit, do I have to be an admin to add the test template? <small><span style="border: 1px solid">]]]</span></small> 13:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
: No! You're encoraged to warn vandals, then when they are up to a final warning and continue, report them to ] so an admin can block them. See ] for a load of templates you can use, and ] for a guide to cleaning up vandalism. ] 14:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
::PS. Gwernol: Hi :) ] 14:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==]==
Hello, Gwernol. I wanted to sincerely thank you for the extra effort you have put into getting the ] article up to standards. As you well know, it has been no small effort to monitor that very active article. I noticed that you have recently placed the article in ''"Protected"'' status. Might I make a humble request? Would you please consider changing the status to ''"Semi-Protected"''? That way, I and some of the other, more experienced editors could help with the clean-up. And almost all of the inappropriate edits have come from unregistered IP users. I will respect whatever decision you make, and, again, thanks for your efforts and guidance. --<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 17:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
*Thanks so much. If there are any other articles you need a hand keeping an eye on, please don't hestitate to ask. --<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">]</span> 18:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hi its 578 ==

Hello Gwernol,

Since you are the admin that I have had the most contact with and that I feel is the one of the more leveled headed ones, I would like to ask you a question. Yesterday AlphaChimp blocked an IP because I left I note on your talk page saying "I wasn't going to use the (fill in the blank) bot". S/he claimed that I was "threatening to commit vandalism" the other part of my note was also taken off your talk page. Now the rest of the note had nothing to even remotely do with vandalism yet it was still taken off. I was looking at the entries on U-boats the other day and in my view they are rather meager. I want to bring them up to the status that I fell they should be at. I would like to do this under my "578" screen name, but that is currently banned as you correctly linked it to the other IP's I was using. If you unblock my account I swear that I wont do any more vandalism to wikipedia again. If you (or any other admin) finds that 578 or any IP that traces to where I live is doing vandalism you can ban it for life. If you don’t want to unblock 578 I understand and I will make another account but openly state that its for my editing U-boat entries.

The reason why I started to vandalize wikipedia was because I did not like some of the new rules/policies and some of the users. Fram would follow a group of us around like a troll and try to Speedy Delete, AfD or RfA every article that we made (they were all legit despite what he claims)Though I reported this to admins and filled a legit RfA against him I was shot down saying I filled it wrong and if I did it again I would get banned. At that point it was pointless to even try to do anything more. I then became a vandal, I want to go back to being a legit editor (if you look at all the edits 578 made in around 2004-2005 all were legit). Let me know what you think.

TO ALL THE RC PATROLS PLEASE DONT BAN ME OR REMOVE THIS FROM GWERNOL'S TALK PAGE I AM NOT AND WILL NOT DO ANY MORE VANDALISM TO WIKIPEDIA. IF GWERNOL WANTS TO TAKE THIS OFF HIS TALK PAGE SO BE IT BUT PLEASE LEAVE THAT UP TO HIM.

Kind Regards
-578 ] 18:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

== Tynllwynhen ==

Further to my previous comments: coincidentally, I went to Tywyn today. I didn't have time to travel on the Talyllyn, but I did pick up a copy of the latest guide book. In that, they spell the halt with two words, i.e. Tynllwyn Hen. I suspect either is correct.&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;] <small>(]/]/])</small>&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp; 21:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

== Pixies ==

Hey. Uh...thanks. I messed up. I admit it. I'm...really sorry. I should have been upfront and either requested a move or contacted an admin. I didn't realize you could move an article to an existing redirect as long as it only has one edit in its history, which ] did. I just knew it couldn't stay at the title "]". I'm...sorry. Oh. I said that? Sorry. D'oh! There I go again. Anyway...thanks for fixing my mistake. I swear it won't happen again.

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== Help disambiguating ==

Hello, I've seen you've been editing UK related articles, and there is a current need to help disambiguate the term ]. At ], ''British'' is the disambiguation pages with the most links (by far), and ideally there should be no links to disambiguation pages. So if possible, please take a look at the ], and try to disambiguate the links to a more correct location. It's actually pretty easy, and most get disambiguated to ]. If we could get 10 or so people doing 50 links a day, we'll be done in no time. Thanks in advance , -- ] 03:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Just wanted to say thanks for the quick revert on my user page :) --]<sup>]</sup> 20:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

== Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/joeferret ==

Hi - I see you've removed my edit to ]. Could you advise why you've done this, as I'm unsure why you've taken this course of action. Thanks. --] 21:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
:Apologies - I now see that the nomination was quickly closed, hence your correct action. --] 21:55, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

==Anousheh Ansari==

Thanks for your quick work blocking the vandal on Anousheh Ansari. It's great to know fans of ] railways show an interest in more modern forms of travel too :-) --]] 01:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Hi Gwernol , No. Fi m mo Cymraeg , jyst gwyntyll chan 'n delynegol enwau. Cara Gwernol , seiniau cara afon , beth feddwl? Fel ydy 'r hyffordda erthyglau yn cerdded? Dremiau cara steamy gweithia. :-)--]] 02:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:PS I don't actually speak Welsh. So I hope that translates properly! --]] 02:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

== You seem to be a well experienced admin ==

You seem to be a really popular and well experienced admin, so I was wondering if you could give me some advice on things I would need to improve on if I ever wanted to become an admin. I was thinking about nominating myself on ], but I seriousley doubt I would be made an admin at this point. Looking at my own Logs and Contributions I have already noticed a few things that I'm lacking, but I'd really apreciate it if you could tell me specifically what I need to do to have a good chance at having a sucessful RfA. Thanks in advance =) --]] ] ] 07:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

:Hi, I saw what you did for KojiDude, and was wondering if you ever have any spare time, if you could do the same for me. Don't worry about it if you're busy, thanks. ] 18:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Blocking ==

While you were right to temporarily block both me and the user Cliesthenes (try saying that one three times quickly) for bickering over the ] article, at least I didn't try to change the wiki guidelines page to justify my actions, as that user apparently did:
] 09:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

==explain what I'm are doing?==
Re: Your message on ].

I made these categories for ] to have upper-level categories at the top of the list instead of sub-categories at the top of the list. I don't like sub-categories being at the top of the list. Also, the !!! Albums is a sub-category and not a list of sub-categories. Therefore, it's name should be changed to Albums !!! so it's no longer at the top of the list. The top of the list should be lists of sub-categirues like any other Categorization plan. Using the exclamaation point I discovered is how the software gets the general categories at the top of the list, where they belong.

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Those are the general categories from the list you get to from the main page. It is possible to
put them on the Special page, Categories as well that you get to from clicking Categories at
the foot of any article. There's no talk page on that page, and the improvements were obvious.
-- ] 09:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Sorry, edit conflict there. I had opted to take the whole statement about "40 acres" out, as most of the time those kind of things are never backed up by facts. About the same time you tagged it as "citation needed". Feel free to put it back though. Happy editing! ] 19:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thanks for your reversion of my user page, but as the notice says at the top, I decided to let it go however users want it to go, and there would be no such thing as vandalism on User page anymore; I would appreciate it if you revoked any warning to the IP that did it. — ''']](])''' <small>(<font color=#6688AA>]</font>|<font color=#666666>]</font></small>)04:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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==Hi==

Hi Gwernol. :) I've replied on my RFA btw. <font color="red">]</font><font color="blue">]</font><font color="green">]</font><font color="darkyellow">]</font><font color="orange">]</font><font color="purple">]</font> <font color="oceanblue">]</font><font color="aqua">]</font> 23:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== British ==

See ]. ] is a disambiguation page and from that page: "''Misplaced Pages articles should not link to disambiguation pages (with rare exceptions where the ambiguity of a term is being discussed); instead links should go directly to the appropriate article.''". British actually is the biggest disambiguation page and is the coloboration project of the month. The standard practice for adjectives for countries such as "American" or "Persian" is to disambiguate them to their country such as <nowiki>]</nowiki> and <nowiki>]</nowiki>. If you want more information ask ], he's kind of the user with the most experience disambiguating. -- ] 00:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
:Also note, that I don't always disambiguate to ]. I check the date and location that the adjective is referring to, and then decide. Some go to ], some go to ], some go to ], and some go to ]. Given the recentism that is in Misplaced Pages, however, its no surprise that many go to ], as usually all the film/song/pop/etc articles actually relate to the current country. -- ] 00:52, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Sugarpine's RfA ==

Thanks for pointing that out; those imposters somehow had me believing they were the real deal. I made the appropriate changes to my post. -- ''']''' 02:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== User Page ==

Hi there; thank you for reverting my userpage. Why would Coolioolio choose my page for such an extended and time-consumimg piece of destructive writing? I have never, I think, touched any writing of his.--] 08:11, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I think that that is the biggest, though not the most obscene, vandalism that my userpage has so far been subjected to. I had forgotten (of course) delete-tagging his article, and as it has long gone I didn't find it on his contribution list. I don't know how to search at a deeper level for deleted articles, or pehaps as a non-admin am not allowed to.--] 11:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to second the thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page. ] 13:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== stds ==

well i created the STD template myself and have been adding in all the relevant articles that i can, we were talking about herpes in class yesterday and roseola is a type of herpes and can be passed on through sexual contact, my friends father has it. which made me think its an std regardless of what the article said] 11:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

how did i list it wrong? im going to sleep now btw. but yeah it didnt look legitimate the title made it seem made up or whatnot no links or referances and when i googled it i didnt really get much. as for ''hearing it in class'' i really dont care if thats not good enough, if im wrong someone will fix it, if im right someone will cite it thats the beauty of wikipedia and i think youre asking me to stop is rather discouraging, but ive gotten used to a tone of clinical rhetoric and subtle animosity on here, people really should be more friendly and word things nicerly, i think it sends the wrong message. as for the other STDs i worked my ass off making that template, its easy to criticize when you havnt done anything, i also noticed you removed hepitius without mentioning it on your edit summary, thats rather deceptive. anything else? ] 11:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

look over my edits, most of them are damn good, i wrote every single Category Childrens books with LGBT themes article except for heather has two mommies. and i created the template for stds so give me a break so i got one wrong. ok sorry yeah youre right u didnt take hep off, i thought u did, i am dislexic and i really did think u did, assume good faithe why dont you. what do you mean by cavalier attitude, i think blocking me will do great damage to wikipedia because i have plenty to contribute and even if u do it wont stop me, there are thousands of computers on campus i can just use another one if u block me theres lots and lots and lots of ISPs regardless you shouldnt block me cuz i havnt done anything wrong and yeah i de belong here, and you are harsh, hmm im glad Stephen Colbert is messing with you guys, because many of you should really lighten up, as for my afd so i messed it up, jeez and i didnt know that the afd should have keep/delete sections they do in the spanish version which your potential block wont effect me, plus i would contest it anyways. haha. ok fine i said "haha" i bet thats like pure evil on here, i swear some of the rules are extremely anal-retentive and im going to propose that AfD's allow keep/delete/other/comment/merge sections for the sake of ''simplicity'' and fluidity. i dont know what your angle is, i think you are targeting me and being mean for no reason. i am not damaging wikipedia, i have had misunderstandings in the past, so what i also called mrs. fergueson a bitch in kindergarden, does that mean i should be admitted to Cal or San Diego state? i mean im confused, like what have i dont wrong? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

i didnt threaten to vandalize anything, i just want to stay! =) <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

==Moved from user page==
Help.. I'm totally confused trying to navigate in this site..

You sent me a message that I had edited an entry (yes, I remember that..) and that I had inserted a link to my own private site ?? I certainly do not recall that, nor would I deliberately do that... Please help me to determine what I did wrong, and how to prevent it in the future.. I only did it thinking I was doing a useful service... Jim... {{unsigned|Djmbs}}

== Vandalism ==

Gwernol, the anonymous user 68.11.131.52 , whom you threatened earlier with blockade; was that threat in response to his vandalism of my talk-page? If it was not, please be advised that he just did so. (I have self-reverted).--] 20:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you again. Looking at the phraseology used by the anon editor and by Scorcherman, I would lay odds that they are one and the same. I was about to suggest this to you when you suggested it to me.--] 20:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks Gwernol ==

Hey Gwernol, thank you so much for supporting my recent RfA. It passed with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. It was just fantastic having the support of so many wonderful administrators and editors. I really appreciated your support.:) Thankyou. ] (]) 21:38, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

==Narrow gauge==
Sorry if I've mucked things up there; are ROF Eastriggs and the other entry in the table actually different entities? I thought they were one and the same but I have a feeling you know more about this than I do. --] 00:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks for your reply. I used to live down that way and know the Carlisle- Dumfries line very well. There are certainly many standard gauge sidings and branches leading to Longtown depot in that area. --] 01:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

==Image deleted==
The image of astronaut Ansari you deleted from the article is a free one, NASA material, uploaded from it's official biography on NASA site, as you can see here.

It was an abuse from you. You're just an administrator, not the owner of the reason. If you don't understand about copyright, please read my comments about this matter in the discuss of Ansari article, before any act, ok? Thank you] 01:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)machocarioca

==Admin Tips==
Sorry to bother you, but I've been considering becomeing an admin (in a few years, ofcourse) and I was wondering if you could give me a few tips that I can practice while I'm still a regular user here at Misplaced Pages. Any pointers on being an admin or become one would be great.

P.S. - A reply can be left on your talk page. Thank you for your time and good luck on any future contributions to Misplaced Pages. Keep up the good work! ]]]] 01:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

==Image deleted 2==
I apologyse, your username was the last in article's history after you desprotected. Who did that?

Now, it´s protected again, for other reasons , I think. I can't place it in the infobox. Could you do that as administrator? The image is

here, I uploaded again. Thanks and sorry. ] 08:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)machocarioca

== Categorisation of Wales Railway Stations ==

Is there a policy for how Wales Railway Station pages should be categorised? There does not appear to be a consistent approach.

For example, stations on the ] are put into ], whereas other stations are put into (for example) ].

Matters are also comlicated with heritage railway stations. For example, ] is currently in categories
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Similar issues are evident within ]

Do any guidelines exist that specify how the stations should be categorised, and also how the categories are related? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== ] - ] ? ==

Hi Gwernol,

The <span class="plainlinks">] (] • ] • <font color="002bb8"></font> • ] • <font color="002bb8"></font>)</span> has vandalized the Butuan City article again (Diff). This appears to be a ] having been used on 5 occassiona sicne creation on August 18th and each time to vandalize the Butuan city article. You blocked this user before on September 2. I was wondering if this was sufficient to block indeffinately. Thanks --] 11:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you! I'll let you know if s/he starts up again. --] 13:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

== Comment moved from archive 12 ==
Yea I'm new to Wiki, but why are you taking out what I said about THQ. The statement I origanlly put in was already changed to '''It is also known in the gaming community that THQ has made some bad games. This is usually due to the fact they do movie/toy tie-in games or take prior video game properties and dumb down the gameplay.'''
I feel that that was enough of a significant change to stay. Also the statement is true and should not just be deleted. ] 07:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)


== Leeds Student ==

Yes please update the Leeds Student Page as you suggested on my talk page

Thanks

] 19:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Hi there; I have been fairly active today annoying vandals, and I seem to be a current target anyway. I will not be looged in again for about 24 hours. Could I ask you to do me a favour, keep an occasional eye on my pages, and revert any idiots who have nothing better to do than to attack me? Can my userpage be protected from new and unregistered users?--] 23:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

:Got home earlier than expected, and nothing seems to have happened; they must have got bored (or got blocked). If possible, I would still like my userpage blocked to new and unregistered editors. I know it can be done. Can you do it? Please?--] 17:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

::OK fair enough. I am happy to follow wiki policy, although allowing free editing of other editor's userpages could be seen as a discussion point.--] 21:20, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:::Please do not misunderstand me; I had and have no intention of making any sort of issue out of it. Take it as residual irritation caused by 14 vandalisms. And yes, I know that some people have been hit a lot more. Thanks for your help.--] 21:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for reverting my userpage. I seem to be a popular target with the vandals lately. ;) --] <sub>]</sub> 01:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for for reverting vandalism on my talk page. Keep up the good work.--<font style="background:white">]</font> 12:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

== User Stats ==
Hi, I noticed on another users' page you provided that person with stats regarding number of edits/block log/edit summaries/etc. I was just wondering if there's anyway for me to check my own stats (without manually counting on "my contribs"). Any help is appreciated. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

:Thanks for the help, and apologies for not signing last time. ] 00:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Assistance with a difficult editor ==
Hi, We've interacted in the past and I appreciated the manner in which you dealt with the issue. (cuckold) I am hoping that you might give some assistance in dealing with a problem. Unfortunately I am involved in a revert war with a fellow named ] on the ] article and the ] article. He seems like a nice enough guy, but he keeps reverting editing changes that I have made. From the talk page on those articles, as well as his talk page, you can see I have worked hard to work it out. As a result of the difference of opinion that we have, I submitted an RfC], and got no response after a wait a few weeks. I then posted to the ] with no response. Eventually Michaelbluejay asked a friend of his to comment, (an admin I believe) who gave weak support. Now, I am not trying to get you involved in that really. Basically MichaelBluejay is a very good friend of Nikki Craft, and edits the content for her web sites, and insists on including references to those web sites numerous time in the indicated articles. ( and ] web sites does not qualify as a reliable source, and is largely original research and pushes a POV with little verifiable data (in my opinion). I've just asked Michael to pull the information relevant to the article INTO the article, and cite the original source, rather than the opinion on said sites. Lately in the Nikki Craft web site I have made improvements to her Bio, and asked for references for some of the information stated there, but where to references are cited. I keep being reverted, over and over, even though I am making what I believe to be meaningful changes. I find it disruptive to have to deal with being reverted over and over, and embarrassing to be involved in a revert war. I tried to negotiate that we would just leave the site alone until we got meaningful response on the RfC, but that brought that we could leave it alone as long as his citations remain. My other attempts to work with have failed too.

I guess I am not sure what I expect from you. I'm not asking for him to be blocked, or anything, I just wish someone who is an admin would step in and give a more authoritative opinion. If your opinion is in his favor, rather than mine, then so be it. At least the issue will be resolved. I suppose my ideal would be a request that we leave out the cited disputes until we get meaningful response from the RfC, or an admin willing to take on the issue of whether or not the web sites violate wikipedia standards, as I discuss in too much detail elsewhere. Even just a word of advice would be welcome.
Thanks, ] 19:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I see you have been really busy. If you'd rather not assist with this, that's no problem. ] 13:53, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

== Spammer block ==

Just thanks - some of the stuff went back a way but I think I've cleared it now - regards --] <b><sup><small>(])</small></sup></b> 14:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

==stop being a fool==
If he's going to post up racist lies and claim he's following policy, I'm going to call that fool Feldspar what he is, a racist fool. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== Question about edit removed. ==

Hello. Today I made my first edit - and I wonder if you can tell me why you removed it. I know I have a lot to learn about how this works, so I thought I'd just ask...

The edit was made on this page ]. The change I made was to add an external link to the web page of Benton High School in Columbia County. Perhaps only links to other Misplaced Pages pages are allowed? Or perhaps it isn't deemed useful to have a link to the website of the school?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this, ] 04:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Awesome rfA vote ==

Hi, no don't worry, you didn't miss anything on that RfA. I occasionally support users' RfA's if they don't stand a chance of passing. It's not the first time I've done it either. Why you ask? Well,
#There's no harm in it, as it won't actually affect the end result
#It's to help the candidate feel a bit better about themselves
#I believe throwing a bunch of oppose votes in someones face is unneccasary, when ultimately it won't make any difference
I encourage you and other users to do the same, you could say I'm taking ] a bit further.--<font style="background:white">]</font> 10:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well I'm doing it for the same reason I'd say someone is reasonably good at painting, when infact they are not. Truth hurts sometimes, which is why lying is sometimes the better route to take. I won't stop voting like that in the future, but instead I'll take your advice and avoid using such strong words such as "awesome", I'll just tone it down a little.--<font style="background:white">]</font> 11:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== Hesher? ==

I was collecting contributions from other users, why delete the article (within 10 minutes) before any of them could edit? Sorry new to Misplaced Pages, but this article is needed, why not allow the one I created as a stub?

Thanks,

-Jonathan <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== Hesher? ==

Thanks for the response. I was enlisting the help of others more educated than myself, but without a document to edit, I don't see how they can contribute.

This article is linked to from many related articles. Though incomplete, I believe the article I wrote works well as a base to be "cleaned up" and corrected. It is much more substantial than the previous article which was discussed & deleted. Do you not agree?

Thanks,

-J <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== Hesher? ==

Hey Gwernol,
>> I don't see why starting it again in basically the same state <br>
If you look, it is not the same article at all. True, its not referenced, but it is researched (within wikipedia mostly) and links to many pertinent articles. It is clearly needed as part of the explanation of terms such as ], the origins of ], ] etc.

>> For 18 months the article sat there and wasn't sourced or improved<br>
The last article had 18 months to get "cleaned up", the one I created was barely alive 18 minutes. Hardly giving it a chance.

Found at least 5 articles that link to this one, is mine really worse than nothing?

I won't continue to argue if you still feel it warrants deletion.

Thanks,

-Jonathan

A few quick references I located:<br>
http://www.answers.com/topic/hesher<br>
http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/Content?oid=oid%3A14838
"heavy metal parking lot" - 1986<br>
<br>


PS: A general question - Am I supposed to respond here on <b>your</b> "talk" page or on my own talk page? -Thanks <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== Regarding ] ==

Gwernol, I am writing you because you are an administrator who may be able to do something about ]. If you look at his Contributions page, you will find that he has been vandalizing for many months in dozens of articles. If you also look at his Talk page (]), he has been repeatedly warned and even blocked at least once. Is there no way in which this incorrigible vandalizer can be permanently blocked? - ] 17:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

== ] Talk Archive ==

Using the history of the ], I have created a discussion archive page at ]. As you are well aware, the history of that page was a mess: lots of refactoring and vandalism. But I think I have sufficiently pieced together the edits and captured the past discussions. If you get a chance, please take a look and make sure it meets with your approval. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Palatino">]</span> 19:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

==Mr. Lefty's RfA thanks==

{| style="background-color: lightgreen; border: 2px solid black;"
| ]
| Hi, Gwernol, and thanks for supporting me in my recent ], which succeeded with a final tally of 70/4/4. I hope I can live up to your expectations, and if there's ever anything you need, you know where to find me! --] <sub>]</sub> 00:09, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
|}


==A question for your RfB==

I've answered it.] 00:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

== personal attacks ==

i didn't attack anyone and I also didn't offend anyone. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== FYI ==

Another IP address continues to alter ] to support their personal opinion (and that of user Cliesthenes) that it's OK to label someone's sexual orientation in the opening paragraph. ] 14:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

==Reply to user page editing==
There are exceptions to the rule. For example, fair use images may only be used in articles. Editors may remove such images from other editors' user pages. (] 15:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC))

== Misplaced, message ==

You have NO RIGHT to censor the Jodie Foster article and abuse your authority!! I recommend you for demotion. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== Advertising ==
Advertising is very subjective, you could consider almost any entry to be an ad 01:32, 27 September 2006 (UTC)



== Privacy ==
Hey Gwernol, thank you for the warning. I did not attack anyone. I stated facts. Please email me what you think is a personal attack so I know for next time. Your email made me wonder about this issue of privacy. Each of you except two women (Strauss and Ewart) seem to have aliases. Why not use aliases to protect their identities? This only seems fair. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== FT clan ==

First of all I am calm and have been throughout this entire process to this point, but now I am starting to get pissed off. You claim to be making an encyclopedia yet you do not allow people to post things which others may learn about or learn from. Last time I checked people used encyclopedias for research and for learning about new things. I am not making personal attacks on any of the people here, I am merely stating how COMPLETELY AWFUL my experience with wikipedia has been so far. If you are to encourage people to contribute then maybe you could try by not being so uptight and by not being assholes to those who post things.] 19:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

How am I to discuss things with people who are being quite simply, closed minded and will not listen to my arguements? In my last recreation of the page which I have posted, I put the reasons why the group was significant which is what I had been asked for, but you just flat out deleted it anyway. How about you make up your mind about what you want from me?] 20:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Well then what contribution of yours am I supposed to talk about? The fact that you so nonchalantly go around and delete other peoples work as if you were god? Also, just because you, as GOD obviously, havent heard about the clan doesnt mean that it isnt notable. And how are there supposed to be "reliable sources" when I cited the web site of the clan and the only real sources about the clan besides that are the people in them? How do YOU know that we are not reliable?] 20:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks. I did not say anything about your character, merely about your attitude towards others, especially those new here. Thus, you need to read the article you posted for me to read yourself before you get on your high horse and say I made a personal attack when I clearly did not as defined by your own rules.] 20:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

HOLY CRAP! how many times do I have to say this to get it through your obviously thick skull? you can talk to the FOUNDING MEMBERS for the information...they are able to verify what has happened and because they started it. It's like their child. Jesus Christ this is frustrating dealing with you people.] 20:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
:Gwernol, as someone who dealt with this repeatedly recreated page earlier, I just wanted to send a "bravo" your direction for your consistently calm, reasoned explanations in the face of quite a few blasts...keep up the good work. FWIW, my welcome message to this user, as well as a mild explanation/warning, were deleted off his talk page. I didn't really feel the need to restore it, but just wanted you to know. Thanks! ] 21:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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