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⚫ | {{nutshell|If content on your user page might be seen by some as "divisive" it is recommended that you may choose to expand the content in question.}} | ||
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There is no express prohibition on ''"divisive"'' behavior on Misplaced Pages. Also, "''divisive''" is not really defined in any substantive sense. However, some feel that '''divisiveness''' between members of the Misplaced Pages community is against ]'s policies and guidelines; and against the reason that Misplaced Pages exists. People holding this belief say that since Misplaced Pages is an ], dividing Misplaced Pages contributors up into separated camps hinders rather than helps the process of creating and maintaining an encyclopedia. There is by no means a consensus on this point. Furthermore, given the above qualification, it is valid to ask the following question: what really does or does not constitute divisive behavior? | ||
For example, if people see this: | For example, if people see this: | ||
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|{{userbox-r|green|lightgreen|]|Jimbo says don't be divisive.}} | |{{userbox-r|green|lightgreen|]|Jimbo says don't be divisive.}} | ||
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|{{userbox-2|#0000CD|#ADD8E6|]|So there.|]}} | |{{userbox-2|#0000CD|#ADD8E6|]|So there.|]}} | ||
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"Remember what we are doing here. We are building a 💕 for every single person on the planet. We are trying to do it in an atmosphere of fun, love, and respect for others. We try to be kind to others, thoughtful in our actions, and professional in our approach to our responsibilities." Jimbo Wales 16:49, 26 August 2005 (UTC) | "Remember what we are doing here. We are building a 💕 for every single person on the planet. We are trying to do it in an atmosphere of fun, love, and respect for others. We try to be kind to others, thoughtful in our actions, and professional in our approach to our responsibilities." Jimbo Wales 16:49, 26 August 2005 (UTC) | ||
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⚫ | ==Relevant policies== | ||
==Guideline in a nutshell== | |||
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⚫ | If content on your user page might be divisive |
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⚫ | : Misplaced Pages is first and foremost an online encyclopedia, and as a means to that end, an online community, which, like all such communities is liable to sundry diasagreements and energetic discussions. Please avoid the temptation to use Misplaced Pages for other purposes, or to treat it as something it is not. | ||
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⚫ | ==Relevant policies |
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⚫ | : Misplaced Pages is first and foremost an online encyclopedia, and as a means to that end, an online community. Please avoid the temptation to use Misplaced Pages for other purposes, or to treat it as something it is not. | ||
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:You agreed to allow others to modify your work. So let them. | :You agreed to allow others to modify your work. So let them. | ||
*] | * ] | ||
:Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Misplaced Pages. Comment on content, not on the contributor. | :Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Misplaced Pages. Comment on content, not on the contributor. | ||
*] | * ] | ||
:Being rude, insensitive or petty makes people upset and stops Misplaced Pages working well. |
:Being rude, insensitive or petty makes people upset and stops Misplaced Pages working well. Posting inflammatory links and attacks, or items aimed at outing others is even worse (using other Wikimedia Projects to do the same is equally reprehensible). Try to discourage others from being incivil, and be careful to avoid offending people unintentionally. Mediation is available if needed. | ||
==Relevant guidelines |
==Relevant guidelines== | ||
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:Don't vote on everything, and if you can help it, |
:Don't vote on everything, and if you can help it, consider not voting on anything because it is possible, albeit not probable, that in distilling an essay's worth of thought into a single phrase it may become divisive rather than a careful consideration, dissection and eventual synthesis of each side's arguments that is needed for the goal of an encyclopedia. | ||
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==Other essays== | |||
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:Misplaced Pages is a communal effort so to make it work, contributors must think from a community perspective as well as a personal one. | :Misplaced Pages is a communal effort so to make it work, contributors must think from a community perspective as well as a personal one. | ||
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:Unregistered users have exactly the same rights as registered users to participate, to edit articles as well as take part in discussions. Their input is just as important in building consensus. | |||
==User space== | ==User space== | ||
Divisive content in user space, whether in the form of divisive user boxes or any other kind of bumper-sticker type labeling is |
"Divisive" content in user space, whether in the form of allegedly divisive user boxes or any other kind of bumper-sticker type labeling, or labeling in general, or the inclusion of links to blogs for purposes of stirring drama, is viewed by some as being harmful to Misplaced Pages. Creative, explanatory, or otherwise useful information is encouraged as these efforts can help build a community that in turn builds an encyclopedia. If it is generally perceived that a label, userbox, or bumper sticker type self-expression on your user page is divisive, then expand it with creativity, explanations, and other positive inclusive elements or remove it because that's what is good for building the community that is building this encyclopedia. | ||
Facile labels, polarizing "bumper stickers", polemical user boxes, factionalism, and division are bad for Misplaced Pages. Creative informative explanatory self-expression is good for Misplaced Pages. | "Facile" labels, "polarizing" "bumper stickers", "polemical" user boxes, "factionalism", and division are bad for Misplaced Pages. Creative informative explanatory self-expression is good for Misplaced Pages. | ||
Individuality of expression always looks more meaningful than branding. | Individuality of expression always looks more meaningful than branding. | ||
==Talk space== | ==Talk space== | ||
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⚫ | If the existing policies and guidelines are broadly interpreted; then within talk space, this |
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* At ], The constant seeking for blame and winners and losers in debate is a poison. Jimbo Wales 22.16 11 February 2012 | |||
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⚫ | If the existing policies and guidelines are broadly interpreted; then within talk space, this essay can be seen as redundant. If the existing policies and guidelines are narrowly interpreted; then within talk space, this essay fills a loophole by explicitly discouraging divisiveness. | ||
==Article space== | ==Article space== | ||
The point of the Misplaced Pages community not being divisive within itself is to help us create the best encyclopedia we can. This |
The point of the Misplaced Pages community not being divisive within itself is to help us create the best encyclopedia we can. This essay neither adds to nor subtracts from existing article content guidelines. | ||
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Stylistic elements within articles should not be pointlessly divisive. | |||
{{Misplaced Pages essays|civility}} | |||
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If anything in an encyclopedia article doesn't make it a better encyclopedia article, it shouldn't be there. But if it does make it a better encyclopedic article, that someone sees it as being divisive doesn't count against it. |
Latest revision as of 18:03, 6 December 2018
Essay on editing Misplaced PagesThis is an essay. It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Misplaced Pages contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Misplaced Pages's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints. |
This page in a nutshell: If content on your user page might be seen by some as "divisive" it is recommended that you may choose to expand the content in question. |
There is no express prohibition on "divisive" behavior on Misplaced Pages. Also, "divisive" is not really defined in any substantive sense. However, some feel that divisiveness between members of the Misplaced Pages community is against Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines; and against the reason that Misplaced Pages exists. People holding this belief say that since Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, dividing Misplaced Pages contributors up into separated camps hinders rather than helps the process of creating and maintaining an encyclopedia. There is by no means a consensus on this point. Furthermore, given the above qualification, it is valid to ask the following question: what really does or does not constitute divisive behavior?
For example, if people see this:
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on your user page and complain of divisiveness, you can better communicate what you had originally intended to communicate by EXPANDING it to this:
"Remember what we are doing here. We are building a 💕 for every single person on the planet. We are trying to do it in an atmosphere of fun, love, and respect for others. We try to be kind to others, thoughtful in our actions, and professional in our approach to our responsibilities." Jimbo Wales 16:49, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Relevant policies
- Misplaced Pages is first and foremost an online encyclopedia, and as a means to that end, an online community, which, like all such communities is liable to sundry diasagreements and energetic discussions. Please avoid the temptation to use Misplaced Pages for other purposes, or to treat it as something it is not.
- You agreed to allow others to modify your work. So let them.
- Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Misplaced Pages. Comment on content, not on the contributor.
- Being rude, insensitive or petty makes people upset and stops Misplaced Pages working well. Posting inflammatory links and attacks, or items aimed at outing others is even worse (using other Wikimedia Projects to do the same is equally reprehensible). Try to discourage others from being incivil, and be careful to avoid offending people unintentionally. Mediation is available if needed.
Relevant guidelines
- Don't vote on everything, and if you can help it, consider not voting on anything because it is possible, albeit not probable, that in distilling an essay's worth of thought into a single phrase it may become divisive rather than a careful consideration, dissection and eventual synthesis of each side's arguments that is needed for the goal of an encyclopedia.
Other essays
- Misplaced Pages is a communal effort so to make it work, contributors must think from a community perspective as well as a personal one.
- Unregistered users have exactly the same rights as registered users to participate, to edit articles as well as take part in discussions. Their input is just as important in building consensus.
User space
"Divisive" content in user space, whether in the form of allegedly divisive user boxes or any other kind of bumper-sticker type labeling, or labeling in general, or the inclusion of links to blogs for purposes of stirring drama, is viewed by some as being harmful to Misplaced Pages. Creative, explanatory, or otherwise useful information is encouraged as these efforts can help build a community that in turn builds an encyclopedia. If it is generally perceived that a label, userbox, or bumper sticker type self-expression on your user page is divisive, then expand it with creativity, explanations, and other positive inclusive elements or remove it because that's what is good for building the community that is building this encyclopedia.
"Facile" labels, "polarizing" "bumper stickers", "polemical" user boxes, "factionalism", and division are bad for Misplaced Pages. Creative informative explanatory self-expression is good for Misplaced Pages.
Individuality of expression always looks more meaningful than branding.
Talk space
- At User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 96#Kudos, The constant seeking for blame and winners and losers in debate is a poison. Jimbo Wales 22.16 11 February 2012
If the existing policies and guidelines are broadly interpreted; then within talk space, this essay can be seen as redundant. If the existing policies and guidelines are narrowly interpreted; then within talk space, this essay fills a loophole by explicitly discouraging divisiveness.
Article space
The point of the Misplaced Pages community not being divisive within itself is to help us create the best encyclopedia we can. This essay neither adds to nor subtracts from existing article content guidelines.