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	* Edited the article a little. Mostly to make it look a little better. Removed a few POV statements too. Fair play for the effort. If you need a hand let me know --] 11:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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	*Cheers, pretty new to all this stuff, but figured may as well try and get it together. Thanks for tidying it up! ]

			==Fastest Hat-trick==
	*Lads, anyone any idea if there is a current chairman of the club? The page still has Finbar but as we all know he's gone. Thanks --] 21:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
			Someone changed this to 133 seconds but I think the original version using minutes and seconds which also mentionined the fact that the length of time is disputed was better. Anyone agree?

			Ya minutes & secounds is better.
	==September 2006==
			==Why==
	*No idea if we have a new chairman yet. Maybe Chairman could be replaced with CEO? Would seem strange not to have Ollie listed there considering he actually owns 99.9%(?) of the club shares. Slowly but surely getting the history done. Good to see others throwing some stuff in as well-stuff we didn't actually know!!! Could someone put in a pic of BD's crest or fan display to give people an idea of what it's all about? No idea how to.] 03:26, 4 September 2006
			Why are the recent and very important events in irish soccer little more than a foot note in the beyond section ? (] 12:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC))
	**Slapped one up there. EnDai.
	*If I get round to it I have a good bit of stuff at home I could type up. My current project is to get all Shels players on Wiki. Having a few issues with some of the more "common" named players. I think changing Chairman to CEO is a good idea. I'll go ahead and do it. Anyone has any objections they can change it ] 18:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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	*Tried to change it there but it's not as simple as a name change. Perhaps someone else could give it a try? ] 18:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
			Did ] play for Shelbourne ? According to the Whos Who of Aston Villa he did, but I notice he was twice removed removed from the Notable Former Players here. He was one of the top Irish players during the 1940s and 1950s ]--] 20:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
	**Simply removed his name. Doesn't look good having a blank chairman section, but better than flase info I guess. EnDai.
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	*Tried it as well, but to no avail. Added in further info about the dispute in the 30s. Was reading up on it earlier today and started a page on ]. Hopefully people start filling in stuff about LoI clubs who are no longer in the league. Some good stuff around on Cork Celtic and Hibs.] 21:53, 4 September 2006
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	*If I finish work early tomorrow I'll get in some reading and try and add some prose to the page. It's pretty impressive already. Excellent job on the Reds United page ] 22:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

			] 07:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
	*Done a few slight changes to things like records and trivia to try and make it a bit more accessible. I'll have a look into getting a BD display image up or something this evening. Seeing as this page will be seen by more than just existing fans, is it worth putting up a section before History, with remaining fixtures, and locations, for the season into it? Never know who may stumble accross it I guess. Could move the current squad section into this aswell and group it all (upcoming fixtures/current squad/players on loan/international players) under a heading like Season 2006 or something. Was doing a few experiments with formatting it earlier, but nothing saved in case its considered pointless. Could do it in no time if its worth it though.] 10:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
	**'''Don't put up fixtures lads.''' Its an enyclopedia not an advert. Have a look at other european clubs for the style of Club articles here.
	***Fair enough, hence the asking.

			== No sources, is this really trivia though? ==
	*Changes look great. Well done! I'll write up on the 50s tonight and I've info on Jacobs as well. Maybe the Defunct LoI clubs section could be changed to Former LoI clubs as some that left the LoI like James Gate are still going. Probably a more accurate reflection. Saw the CCFC one a while ago. Looked awful! Couldn't fit 111 years of history in like that. ;) RedsIndependent.com 21:00, 6 Sept 2006

			The following was in a trivia section - but none of it seems "trivial" to me (] meaning unimportant information).
	*Fair play for doing up all the history, great to have it all taking shape. Page is starting to look pretty impressive. Started doing up some of the players pages, did alot of updates to Jayo and Joey's pages. ] 18:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

			Can we get a source for this material and then have it incorporated into the main article?
	*Nearly finished on the history front. Only this decade to do! BD pics look great! I created a page for Harold's Cross as well. Maybe others will come across it and expand it. RedsIndependent.com 04:48, 11 September 2006

			*The last team to win the ] while it was still an all Ireland competition, Shels were also the first Dublin club to win a national competition when they beat ] 2-0 in the ] Final in 1906.
	*Link for Larkin Community College scholarship programme. http://www.larkincommunitycollege.ie/times280206.html RedsIndependent.com 13:04 17 September 2006
			*Shelbourne hosted the first ] match ever to be shown live on TV when Derry City visited Tolka Park during the 1996/97 season. The match finished 1-1.
			*Shels took part in the first ever FAI Cup tie to be decided by a penalty shoot-out in the 1990 competition after two draws against ], but lost out to the eventual cup winners.
			*Shelbourne's Jason Byrne became the first player ever to finish top scorer in the League of Ireland for four consecutive seasons when he finished the league's top scorer again in the 2006 season. Byrne was a Shels player for all of those four seasons.
			*Shelbourne's 2006 league championship win was their fifth of the decade equalling the record set by ] in the 1940s.

			Thanks! - ] (]) 01:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
	==October 2006==
	Why did somebody change the Honours list? We have not won 12 'Irish League Championships'. We have not competed in the Irish League since 1920. Why did someone take away the flags which were beside the Honours won which gave people an 'easy' explanation of why we have won both the IFA and FAI Cups? RedsIndependent.com 09:20, 6 Oct 2006
	:It was not clear from the text. Maybe a more lenghty explanation would have helped. What are you referring to?.--] 18:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
	:: ''In 1921 following the partition of Ireland, the Football Association of the Irish Free State took control of football in what is now the Republic of Ireland, and Shels left the Irish Football League to become founder members of the new Free State League (now the Football League of Ireland).''
	The club played under 2 different football associations, one representing Ireland as a 32 county state, and one (current) representing Ireland as a 26 county body (Republic). Please refrain from editing what you do not comprehend.

			==Joe Kendrick==
	*Nazism. :( ] 18:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
			Hi, does anybody here have any more info on ]’s time with Shelbourne. He definitely played for Shels for part of 1926-27 season and during the 1929-30 season. He was released by Shels at end of the latter season. Did he, for example, play for Shels when they won the League of Ireland in 1925-26 or 1928-30 ]--] (]) 10:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
	:You deserve no consideration.--] 18:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
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	*doesn't matter where he was born. He was brought in Ireland and has represented ireland at U21 level. ] 23:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

			== Dublin City Cup ==

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	What is this ridiculous argument about the markings on our jersey? That status quo on the template page is a joke. 4 people decide to agree between each other that their POV is right and then start indiscriminately changing pages that they have no vested interest in. Ridiculous stuff ] 18:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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Fastest Hat-trick

Someone changed this to 133 seconds but I think the original version using minutes and seconds which also mentionined the fact that the length of time is disputed was better. Anyone agree?

Ya minutes & secounds is better.

Why

Why are the recent and very important events in irish soccer little more than a foot note in the beyond section ? (Gnevin 12:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC))

Davy Walsh

Did Davy Walsh play for Shelbourne ? According to the Whos Who of Aston Villa he did, but I notice he was twice removed removed from the Notable Former Players here. He was one of the top Irish players during the 1940s and 1950s Djln--Djln 20:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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No sources, is this really trivia though?

The following was in a trivia section - but none of it seems "trivial" to me (trivia meaning unimportant information).

Can we get a source for this material and then have it incorporated into the main article?

The last team to win the Irish Cup while it was still an all Ireland competition, Shels were also the first Dublin club to win a national competition when they beat Belfast Celtic 2-0 in the Irish Cup Final in 1906.
Shelbourne hosted the first League of Ireland match ever to be shown live on TV when Derry City visited Tolka Park during the 1996/97 season. The match finished 1-1.
Shels took part in the first ever FAI Cup tie to be decided by a penalty shoot-out in the 1990 competition after two draws against Bray Wanderers, but lost out to the eventual cup winners.
Shelbourne's Jason Byrne became the first player ever to finish top scorer in the League of Ireland for four consecutive seasons when he finished the league's top scorer again in the 2006 season. Byrne was a Shels player for all of those four seasons.
Shelbourne's 2006 league championship win was their fifth of the decade equalling the record set by Cork United in the 1940s.

Thanks! - Tbsdy lives (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Joe Kendrick

Hi, does anybody here have any more info on Joe Kendrick, Sr.’s time with Shelbourne. He definitely played for Shels for part of 1926-27 season and during the 1929-30 season. He was released by Shels at end of the latter season. Did he, for example, play for Shels when they won the League of Ireland in 1925-26 or 1928-30 Djln--Djln (talk) 10:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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Dublin City Cup

Despite the name the Dublin City Cup was not a 'regional' competition. All League of Ireland clubs participated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seandeloughry (talk • contribs) 08:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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